Christian churches MUST change their teachings on homosexuality

[BuckToothMoron]

Do we fine a Rabbi for refusing to officiate the marriage of two gay nazis, or just throw him in an oven? Do we fine a gay bakery owner for pissing in the batter of a cake he is making for the Christian Right?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why did the Catholic Church stop condemning heretics, and why don't governments any longer kill heretics in compliance with the Catholic Church's dictates?

When did God change his mind about the sin of heresy?

When did the Catholic Church become God?

Are you saying the Catholic Church doesn't follow the so-called word of God?

Nope. Didn't say that, or anything like that. Read what I said. Do you think the Catholic Church is God? Because that's what you said. That the fact that the Catholics stopped burning heretics means that God changed his mind.

BTW...heretics weren't burned by the church. They were burned by political leaders. Mary Tudor, the magistrates. Joan of Arc was not even burned "by the church" lol. I know you don't know that, because you are abysmally ignorant of such things.

What I said is, if the Catholic Church follows the word of God, then it was condemning heretics in obedience to that word. Or at least thought it was.

Why did the Catholics stop? Did God tell the Pope to stop? Did the Pope decide his church had been getting it wrong all those centuries?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. ...
If you are truly Christian you would follow his lead.
It should be noted that the op is a white supremacist fuck up.
When he yammers about Christians , he means WHITE CHRISTIANS ONLY.
The rest are sub humans.

Jesus made it clear that marriage was between a man and a woman. That's good enough. Don't fix what isn't broken.

So Jesus is the only one who decides what is marriage in this country. What congressional district is he from?

They can't find a word in the Bible that condemns same sex civil marriage.

Holy Matrimony.

 

[Katzndogz]

Does this mean Trump isn't a Christian? He claims to be a Presbyterian.

March 18

The Presbyterian Church (USA) made a historic decision Tuesday night to formally recognize gay marriage and allow same-sex couples to marry in its congregations.

The largest Presbyterian denomination in the U.S. voted to redefine the church constitution on marriage to include “a commitment between two people, traditionally a man and a woman,”

Presbyterian Church Votes to Recognize Same-Sex Marriage

That split the Presbyterians. You would have to know, not only whether Trump is a Presbyterian, but which one he was.

That a church knuckles under to the militant gay mafia doesn't mean that every member automatically changes their religion some just elect not to attend any more.

 

[daws101]

Muslims see how the Christian church has been neutered and marginalized and shake our heads in disbelief.

Christian's just laid down and gave up without a fight.

Ain't gonna happen with Islam. ......

We're not laying down for Islam. You can take that to the bank.

"laying down"?

So, as a "christian", you believe other religions don't have the same rights you demand?

This isn't about rights. This is about truth. The truth does not change because you can't handle it, Luddly.

The Truth cannot be invented or manufactured. It either exists or it doesn't.

News flash! The Bible is the truth. It wasn't invented or manufactured. The Word of God is eternal.

the bible is an invention of man credited to a god.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

We're not laying down for Islam. You can take that to the bank.

"laying down"?

So, as a "christian", you believe other religions don't have the same rights you demand?

This isn't about rights. This is about truth. The truth does not change because you can't handle it, Luddly.

The Truth cannot be invented or manufactured. It either exists or it doesn't.

News flash! The Bible is the truth. It wasn't invented or manufactured. The Word of God is eternal.

the bible is an invention of man credited to a god.

Wrong.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Mormons believed in polygamy not just as being permissible but as being a core tenet of their Christian faith.

Then the government came along and attached some dire consequences to the Mormons continuing that practice,

and magically! the Mormon head honcho got a message from God Himself! saying that polygamy is no longer okay.

Hmmmm...how is that possible?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The Mormons believed in polygamy not just as being permissible but as being a core tenet of their Christian faith.

Then the government came along and attached some dire consequences to the Mormons continuing that practice,

and magically! the Mormon head honcho got a message from God Himself! saying that polygamy is no longer okay.

Hmmmm...how is that possible?

It isn't.

 

[koshergrl]

What needs to change is 21st century people believing in cave man mythology

Cave men didn't believe in God. It was God that brought them out of the caves.

 

[koshergrl]

If a church preaches against homosexuality and you are a queer and offended? Don't go to that church....how tough is that? Why should people change their belief system because a bunch of candy asses that get all butt hurt that some might disagree with their lifestyle?

Tell that to the Christians who want to trump the Constitution with their religion trump card.

Examples??????????

There are no examples because it's a complete fabrication, lol.

 

[toxicmedia]

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. ...
If you are truly Christian you would follow his lead.
It should be noted that the op is a white supremacist fuck up.
When he yammers about Christians , he means WHITE CHRISTIANS ONLY.
The rest are sub humans.

Jesus made it clear that marriage was between a man and a woman. That's good enough. Don't fix what isn't broken.

So Jesus is the only one who decides what is marriage in this country. What congressional district is he from?

They can't find a word in the Bible that condemns same sex civil marriage.

Nor can you find it in most of the marriage laws created long ago, but that's because nobody even considered it back then.

Which from a purely legal standpoint...makes gay marriage bans a brand new thing, thus NOT upholding traditional marriage.

Having said that, if gay marriage was something they had considered when they created those laws, like Polygamy, they would have most likely prohibited it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Mormons believed in polygamy not just as being permissible but as being a core tenet of their Christian faith.

Then the government came along and attached some dire consequences to the Mormons continuing that practice,

and magically! the Mormon head honcho got a message from God Himself! saying that polygamy is no longer okay.

Hmmmm...how is that possible?

It isn't.

So what? God can't speak to earthlings? When did he lose that power?

Are you saying the Mormon guy was lying?

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Carbineer- the government is suppose to protect its citizens, and clearly no man should have to endure more than one wife.

 

[koshergrl]

The Mormons believed in polygamy not just as being permissible but as being a core tenet of their Christian faith.

Then the government came along and attached some dire consequences to the Mormons continuing that practice,

and magically! the Mormon head honcho got a message from God Himself! saying that polygamy is no longer okay.

Hmmmm...how is that possible?

If it were true, you should ask the Mormons.
But since you said it, we know it isn't true, so meh.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If a church preaches against homosexuality and you are a queer and offended? Don't go to that church....how tough is that? Why should people change their belief system because a bunch of candy asses that get all butt hurt that some might disagree with their lifestyle?

Tell that to the Christians who want to trump the Constitution with their religion trump card.

Examples??????????

There are no examples because it's a complete fabrication, lol.

Kim Davis tried it and failed. The cake bakers tried it and failed.

 

[koshergrl]

If a church preaches against homosexuality and you are a queer and offended? Don't go to that church....how tough is that? Why should people change their belief system because a bunch of candy asses that get all butt hurt that some might disagree with their lifestyle?

Tell that to the Christians who want to trump the Constitution with their religion trump card.

Examples??????????

There are no examples because it's a complete fabrication, lol.

Kim Davis tried it and failed. The cake bakers tried it and failed.

Er..no, they didn't. Those are both instances of fags trumping the constitution with their fag trump card.

 

[daws101]

Leviticus is old testament not anything Jesus taught.
It's homophobic quote mining

No, it shows the CONSISTENCY of the Bible, from what was taught in the Old Testament to what was taught in the New Testament.

false .
Jesus said some are born gay.
Here Jesus refers to "eunuchs who have been so from birth." This terminology ("born eunuchs") was used in the ancient world to refer to homosexual men. Jesus indicates that being a "born eunuch" is a gift from God.
Discussion: Matthew 19:10-12
Some Christians confidently assert that God did not create homosexual people "that way." This is important because they realize if God did create gays "that way," rejecting them would be tantamount to rejecting God’s work in creation. In pressing their “creation order” argument, some Christians are fond of saying, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!" To bolster their position, they often cite Jesus’ words in Matthew 19:4-5, where he responds to a question about whether divorce is permissible:

“Jesus answered, ‘Have you not read that the One who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh”? Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate.’ ”

From these words, some Christians draw the conclusion that heterosexuality is the creation norm and, thus, heterosexual marriage is the only legitimate way for people to form romantic relationships. Ironically, Jesus’ own words in this very same passage refute these conclusions.

As the dialogue continues, Jesus’ disciples are disturbed by his strict teaching on divorce. The disciples say that if divorce is not a ready option, perhaps it would be best for a man not to marry a woman. Jesus responds:

“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)

Here Jesus identifies three classes of men who should not marry women. Taking his categories in reverse order, first, there are those who have made themselves “eunuchs” for the kingdom of heaven, i.e., those who foreswear marriage to better serve God. Second, he mentions those who have been “made eunuchs by others,” an apparent reference to castrated males. But Jesus mentions a third category — eunuchs who were born that way. Some might argue that Jesus was referring to males born without testicles, but this would be extremely rare. Moreover, this interpretation ignores how the term “born eunuchs” was used in other literature of the time.

In the ancient world, including ancient Jewish culture (as reflected in the Talmud), “natural” or “born” eunuchs were not associated with missing testicles. Rather, they were associated with stereotypically effeminate characteristics and behavior (just like modern gay men), and were thought by Rabbi Eliezer to be subject to “cure” (just like modern gays). Moreover, as we have also seen, eunuchs were commonly associated with homosexual desire. (For a complete discussion of the term "born eunuch" and the connection with homosexuality, see The Early Church Welcomed a Gay Man.) As a reasonably informed person of his time, Jesus would have been aware of this common view of eunuchs. Yet he very matter-of-factly asserts that some people are simply born that way. The implication of his statement is profound — God created gay people the way they are! Jesus says so.

Would Jesus Discriminate? - Jesus said some are born gay

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. ...
If you are truly Christian you would follow his lead.
It should be noted that the op is a white supremacist fuck up.
When he yammers about Christians , he means WHITE CHRISTIANS ONLY.
The rest are sub humans.

Jesus made it clear that marriage was between a man and a woman. That's good enough. Don't fix what isn't broken.

So Jesus is the only one who decides what is marriage in this country. What congressional district is he from?

That's right. Jesus Christ has no beginning. He is the Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end.

 

[daws101]

Support for homosexuality becomes the word of God for anyone who claims it as a religious belief that is based on the teachings of God.

Actually the Word of God came 1st, historically proven, before belief in said Word'.

also false.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. ...
If you are truly Christian you would follow his lead.
It should be noted that the op is a white supremacist fuck up.
When he yammers about Christians , he means WHITE CHRISTIANS ONLY.
The rest are sub humans.

Jesus made it clear that marriage was between a man and a woman. That's good enough. Don't fix what isn't broken.

So Jesus is the only one who decides what is marriage in this country. What congressional district is he from?

They can't find a word in the Bible that condemns same sex civil marriage.

Nor can you find it in most of the marriage laws created long ago, but that's because nobody even considered it back then.

Which from a purely legal standpoint...makes gay marriage bans a brand new thing, thus NOT upholding traditional marriage.

Having said that, if gay marriage was something they had considered when they created those laws, like Polygamy, they would have most likely prohibited it.

Toxicmedia, how dare you bring logic and sanity to this thread. There is no need to stoop to such levels. Mind you- I will be following you and will call you out again if I see you using anymore of your fancy shmancy historical facts.