Christian Students win legal challenge against the university of Iowa

[hadit]

Wait until the liberals want a policy implemented then they start quoting Jesus. Otherwise, He is not welcome in academia or state-run institutions. God forbid there be the 10 Commandments in a Courthouse. How offensive and intolerant.

I find it funny how yous guys can't remember ten commandments and need a constant reminder.

Not as funny or disturbing how you guys like to remind us Jesus was a radical and liberal and quote all the wonderful things He said about supporting the sick and the poor yet you shit yourselves when a valedictorian or coach mentions His name in a high school football stadium.

They want to be able to use His name for political purposes but no one else can even mention Him. IOW, He's good for politics but what He said about how to live is a non starter.

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

 

[hadit]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

 

[hadit]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

Another is fornication. People who intend to be a virgin when they marry are routinely mocked.

 

[bendog]

Academia has been persecuting Christians for long time now.....good to see justice prevail in Iowa.......the arrogancy of academia must be abolished along with their discrimination against all races other than blacks.

Christian Students Wins Legal Challenge Against University of Iowa

Christian students have won a legal challenge against the University of Iowa after school administrators banned the Business Leaders in Christ (BLinC) student group from campus for requiring its student leaders to affirm the Christian faith.

www.breitbart.com

I'm not so sure of the persecution thing. Ole Miss has a Baptist student "club." The med school has a Muslim group. But I thought it a little strange Iowa would do this. They might could get by with requiring all groups aimed at a business or profession be non-denominational.

 

[Lysistrata]

I don't trust anyone who just says "Christian." Name denomination or sect, please. The Christian faith is now all split off, making naming the denomination extremely important. Were these students Catholic, Episcopalian, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Quaker, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Assembly of God, Dutch Reformed? What? There are morons who say that "Christians" are being "persecuted," but each Christian faith is different, so be specific as to which Christians you are talking about.

I will never go to an business who advertise as a Christian business.

Me. as well. There are so many bizarre things coming out of people who claim that this is Christianity that this faith is so confusing as to be unrecognizable. I am asking myself what it means to believe in Jesus anymore. A famous Christian author once told me to not quit, to wade through the 2,000 years of bullshit and find what the truth is, but I'm just hanging on by the skin of my teeth, in view of the Catholic boys who run that faith, and the graham and jeffress types, all of whom seek to destroy any legacy that Jesus left.

Go by what Jesus said.

I do. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Too much has been tacked onto Christianity that shouldn't be there. It really should be a very simple faith.

 

[hadit]

I don't trust anyone who just says "Christian." Name denomination or sect, please. The Christian faith is now all split off, making naming the denomination extremely important. Were these students Catholic, Episcopalian, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Quaker, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Assembly of God, Dutch Reformed? What? There are morons who say that "Christians" are being "persecuted," but each Christian faith is different, so be specific as to which Christians you are talking about.

I will never go to an business who advertise as a Christian business.

Me. as well. There are so many bizarre things coming out of people who claim that this is Christianity that this faith is so confusing as to be unrecognizable. I am asking myself what it means to believe in Jesus anymore. A famous Christian author once told me to not quit, to wade through the 2,000 years of bullshit and find what the truth is, but I'm just hanging on by the skin of my teeth, in view of the Catholic boys who run that faith, and the graham and jeffress types, all of whom seek to destroy any legacy that Jesus left.

Go by what Jesus said.

I do. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Too much has been tacked onto Christianity that shouldn't be there. It really should be a very simple faith.

It is very simple, yet very profound. Jesus didn't have to say much about homosexuality because He was an observant Jew who obeyed the Law and God's opinion about homosexuality was made clear in the Law.

 

[Lysistrata]

It is very simple, yet very profound. Jesus didn't have to say much about homosexuality because He was an observant Jew who obeyed the Law and God's opinion about homosexuality was made clear in the Law.

,
According to the OT, the Creator had opinions on a whole lot of subjects. You are cherry-picking unless you observe the Ultra-Orthodox Jewish lifestyle.

You people are sooooo righteous in your own heads. Homosexuality really didn't get any more lines than any other issue, sexual or other, in the OT, which was written thousands of years ago before there was a better understanding of same-sex orientation. You don't get to judge anyway. Judgment is clearly stated to be the prerogative of the Creator.

This whole anti-LGBT thing is a product of male sexual insecurity, not anything that derives from the teachings of Jesus, who emphasized that the Creator loved all people and how people should treat others. You are just abusing faith in him for your own nefarious ends.

 

[hadit]

It is very simple, yet very profound. Jesus didn't have to say much about homosexuality because He was an observant Jew who obeyed the Law and God's opinion about homosexuality was made clear in the Law.

,
According to the OT, the Creator had opinions on a whole lot of subjects. You are cherry-picking unless you observe the Ultra-Orthodox Jewish lifestyle.

You people are sooooo righteous in your own heads. Homosexuality really didn't get any more lines than any other issue, sexual or other, in the OT, which was written thousands of years ago before there was a better understanding of same-sex orientation. You don't get to judge anyway. Judgment is clearly stated to be the prerogative of the Creator.

This whole anti-LGBT thing is a product of male sexual insecurity, not anything that derives from the teachings of Jesus, who emphasized that the Creator loved all people and how people should treat others. You are just abusing faith in him for your own nefarious ends.

I notice that you have no problem being very judgmental yourself when trying to accuse me of being judgmental. Homosexuality is but one of the issues on which humans flout God's opinion to their own detriment, and there is a vast separation between loving and accepting someone who is attracted to their own gender and celebrating their lifestyle.

 

[blackhawk]

This tends to be the result when universities selectively apply their rules.

 

[Lysistrata]

It is very simple, yet very profound. Jesus didn't have to say much about homosexuality because He was an observant Jew who obeyed the Law and God's opinion about homosexuality was made clear in the Law.

,
According to the OT, the Creator had opinions on a whole lot of subjects. You are cherry-picking unless you observe the Ultra-Orthodox Jewish lifestyle.

You people are sooooo righteous in your own heads. Homosexuality really didn't get any more lines than any other issue, sexual or other, in the OT, which was written thousands of years ago before there was a better understanding of same-sex orientation. You don't get to judge anyway. Judgment is clearly stated to be the prerogative of the Creator.

This whole anti-LGBT thing is a product of male sexual insecurity, not anything that derives from the teachings of Jesus, who emphasized that the Creator loved all people and how people should treat others. You are just abusing faith in him for your own nefarious ends.

I notice that you have no problem being very judgmental yourself when trying to accuse me of being judgmental. Homosexuality is but one of the issues on which humans flout God's opinion to their own detriment, and there is a vast separation between loving and accepting someone who is attracted to their own gender and celebrating their lifestyle.

You are being judgmental. Nobody is asking anyone to "celebrate" any sort of lifestyle. I bet that you don't hide your heterosexual lifestyle. You are still trying to hide behind what you refer to as "God's opinion" to justify your obvious insecurities.

BTW: As I've said many times before, people who refer to themselves and their beliefs as "Christian" need to identify their denomination, sect, church, whatever. These beliefs are not universally held.

 

[hadit]

It is very simple, yet very profound. Jesus didn't have to say much about homosexuality because He was an observant Jew who obeyed the Law and God's opinion about homosexuality was made clear in the Law.

,
According to the OT, the Creator had opinions on a whole lot of subjects. You are cherry-picking unless you observe the Ultra-Orthodox Jewish lifestyle.

You people are sooooo righteous in your own heads. Homosexuality really didn't get any more lines than any other issue, sexual or other, in the OT, which was written thousands of years ago before there was a better understanding of same-sex orientation. You don't get to judge anyway. Judgment is clearly stated to be the prerogative of the Creator.

This whole anti-LGBT thing is a product of male sexual insecurity, not anything that derives from the teachings of Jesus, who emphasized that the Creator loved all people and how people should treat others. You are just abusing faith in him for your own nefarious ends.

I notice that you have no problem being very judgmental yourself when trying to accuse me of being judgmental. Homosexuality is but one of the issues on which humans flout God's opinion to their own detriment, and there is a vast separation between loving and accepting someone who is attracted to their own gender and celebrating their lifestyle.

You are being judgmental. Nobody is asking anyone to "celebrate" any sort of lifestyle. I bet that you don't hide your heterosexual lifestyle. You are still trying to hide behind what you refer to as "God's opinion" to justify your obvious insecurities.

BTW: As I've said many times before, people who refer to themselves and their beliefs as "Christian" need to identify their denomination, sect, church, whatever. These beliefs are not universally held.

Identifying one's denomination puts the definition of one's faith in someone else's hands. IOW, if I say I'm Roman Catholic, you immediately go online to find whatever you can find objectionable about Roman Catholicism to accuse me of. Same if I say I'm Southern Baptist or Methodist or Presbyterian. I do not name a denomination so I am free to state what I believe, and force you to deal with that instead of a straw man you put up. So if you want to discuss what I believe you have to ask me.

Funny that you accuse me of being insecure, yet I do not hold a parade so I can figuratively rub everyone's face (including children, BTW) in my sexuality and demand that they celebrate my lifestyle, nor do I seek out vendors who object to my lifestyle with the sole purpose of forcing them to either celebrate my lifestyle or face trouble.

Being turned off and disgusted by something =/= being insecure in one's self.

So why are you being judgmental again?

 

[pknopp]

I don't trust anyone who just says "Christian." Name denomination or sect, please. The Christian faith is now all split off, making naming the denomination extremely important. Were these students Catholic, Episcopalian, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Quaker, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Assembly of God, Dutch Reformed? What? There are morons who say that "Christians" are being "persecuted," but each Christian faith is different, so be specific as to which Christians you are talking about.

I will never go to an business who advertise as a Christian business.

Me. as well. There are so many bizarre things coming out of people who claim that this is Christianity that this faith is so confusing as to be unrecognizable. I am asking myself what it means to believe in Jesus anymore. A famous Christian author once told me to not quit, to wade through the 2,000 years of bullshit and find what the truth is, but I'm just hanging on by the skin of my teeth, in view of the Catholic boys who run that faith, and the graham and jeffress types, all of whom seek to destroy any legacy that Jesus left.

Go by what Jesus said.

I do. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Too much has been tacked onto Christianity that shouldn't be there. It really should be a very simple faith.

It is very simple, yet very profound. Jesus didn't have to say much about homosexuality because He was an observant Jew who obeyed the Law and God's opinion about homosexuality was made clear in the Law.

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

John 8;7

That was not the old law.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I don't trust anyone who just says "Christian." Name denomination or sect, please. The Christian faith is now all split off, making naming the denomination extremely important. Were these students Catholic, Episcopalian, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Quaker, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Assembly of God, Dutch Reformed? What? There are morons who say that "Christians" are being "persecuted," but each Christian faith is different, so be specific as to which Christians you are talking about.

I will never go to an business who advertise as a Christian business.

Me. as well. There are so many bizarre things coming out of people who claim that this is Christianity that this faith is so confusing as to be unrecognizable. I am asking myself what it means to believe in Jesus anymore. A famous Christian author once told me to not quit, to wade through the 2,000 years of bullshit and find what the truth is, but I'm just hanging on by the skin of my teeth, in view of the Catholic boys who run that faith, and the graham and jeffress types, all of whom seek to destroy any legacy that Jesus left.

Go by what Jesus said.

I do. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Too much has been tacked onto Christianity that shouldn't be there. It really should be a very simple faith.

the bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin and Jesus clearly said he was NOT overturning the old testament.

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

 

[pknopp]

I don't trust anyone who just says "Christian." Name denomination or sect, please. The Christian faith is now all split off, making naming the denomination extremely important. Were these students Catholic, Episcopalian, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Quaker, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Assembly of God, Dutch Reformed? What? There are morons who say that "Christians" are being "persecuted," but each Christian faith is different, so be specific as to which Christians you are talking about.

I will never go to an business who advertise as a Christian business.

Me. as well. There are so many bizarre things coming out of people who claim that this is Christianity that this faith is so confusing as to be unrecognizable. I am asking myself what it means to believe in Jesus anymore. A famous Christian author once told me to not quit, to wade through the 2,000 years of bullshit and find what the truth is, but I'm just hanging on by the skin of my teeth, in view of the Catholic boys who run that faith, and the graham and jeffress types, all of whom seek to destroy any legacy that Jesus left.

Go by what Jesus said.

I do. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Too much has been tacked onto Christianity that shouldn't be there. It really should be a very simple faith.

the bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin and Jesus clearly said he was NOT overturning the old testament.

The Bible also states that anyone who remarries or marries someone that has been married before outside of very specific circumstance is committing adultery and that adultery is a sin.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.