Christian Students win legal challenge against the university of Iowa

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

 

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

 

[Penelope]

The group are religious bigots, plain and simple.

 

[hadit]

I don't trust anyone who just says "Christian." Name denomination or sect, please. The Christian faith is now all split off, making naming the denomination extremely important. Were these students Catholic, Episcopalian, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Quaker, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Assembly of God, Dutch Reformed? What? There are morons who say that "Christians" are being "persecuted," but each Christian faith is different, so be specific as to which Christians you are talking about.

I will never go to an business who advertise as a Christian business.

Me. as well. There are so many bizarre things coming out of people who claim that this is Christianity that this faith is so confusing as to be unrecognizable. I am asking myself what it means to believe in Jesus anymore. A famous Christian author once told me to not quit, to wade through the 2,000 years of bullshit and find what the truth is, but I'm just hanging on by the skin of my teeth, in view of the Catholic boys who run that faith, and the graham and jeffress types, all of whom seek to destroy any legacy that Jesus left.

Go by what Jesus said.

I do. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Too much has been tacked onto Christianity that shouldn't be there. It really should be a very simple faith.

It is very simple, yet very profound. Jesus didn't have to say much about homosexuality because He was an observant Jew who obeyed the Law and God's opinion about homosexuality was made clear in the Law.

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

John 8;7

That was not the old law.

I know. He had the power to forgive, and that's what He came to do. Note that forgiving her didn't make what she (why wasn't the man she was caught with also there?) did acceptable, because He told her to "Go, and sin no more". IOW, adultery was still wrong in God's eyes.

 

[hadit]

The group are religious bigots, plain and simple.

Guess you'd better not join then.

 

[pknopp]

I don't trust anyone who just says "Christian." Name denomination or sect, please. The Christian faith is now all split off, making naming the denomination extremely important. Were these students Catholic, Episcopalian, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Quaker, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Assembly of God, Dutch Reformed? What? There are morons who say that "Christians" are being "persecuted," but each Christian faith is different, so be specific as to which Christians you are talking about.

I will never go to an business who advertise as a Christian business.

Me. as well. There are so many bizarre things coming out of people who claim that this is Christianity that this faith is so confusing as to be unrecognizable. I am asking myself what it means to believe in Jesus anymore. A famous Christian author once told me to not quit, to wade through the 2,000 years of bullshit and find what the truth is, but I'm just hanging on by the skin of my teeth, in view of the Catholic boys who run that faith, and the graham and jeffress types, all of whom seek to destroy any legacy that Jesus left.

Go by what Jesus said.

I do. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Too much has been tacked onto Christianity that shouldn't be there. It really should be a very simple faith.

It is very simple, yet very profound. Jesus didn't have to say much about homosexuality because He was an observant Jew who obeyed the Law and God's opinion about homosexuality was made clear in the Law.

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

John 8;7

That was not the old law.

I know. He had the power to forgive, and that's what He came to do. Note that forgiving her didn't make what she (why wasn't the man she was caught with also there?) did acceptable, because He told her to "Go, and sin no more". IOW, adultery was still wrong in God's eyes.

But yet we don't exclude adulterer's like we do those who are gay.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

they dont exclude anyone that accepts their message, if a gay person is religious and abstains from sex they can join.

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

they dont exclude anyone that accepts their message, if a gay person is religious and abstains from sex they can join.

And yet the adulterer doesn't have to refrain from sex.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

they dont exclude anyone that accepts their message, if a gay person is religious and abstains from sex they can join.

And yet the adulterer doesn't have to refrain from sex.

yes they do sin is sin.

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
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unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

they dont exclude anyone that accepts their message, if a gay person is religious and abstains from sex they can join.

And yet the adulterer doesn't have to refrain from sex.

yes they do sin is sin.

There are practicing adulterers in the pews of nearly every single church.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

they dont exclude anyone that accepts their message, if a gay person is religious and abstains from sex they can join.

And yet the adulterer doesn't have to refrain from sex.

yes they do sin is sin.

There are practicing adulterers in the pews of nearly every single church.

so what? Sinners are not excluded from god's word.

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

they dont exclude anyone that accepts their message, if a gay person is religious and abstains from sex they can join.

And yet the adulterer doesn't have to refrain from sex.

yes they do sin is sin.

There are practicing adulterers in the pews of nearly every single church.

so what? Sinners are not excluded from god's word.

So what? You are avoiding the point. Many church's want to exclude gay members.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

they dont exclude anyone that accepts their message, if a gay person is religious and abstains from sex they can join.

And yet the adulterer doesn't have to refrain from sex.

yes they do sin is sin.

There are practicing adulterers in the pews of nearly every single church.

so what? Sinners are not excluded from god's word.

So what? You are avoiding the point. Many church's want to exclude gay members.

No they don't they want them to stop sinning, Perhaps you can explain why a practicing gay would WANT to go to a Christian church?

 

[pknopp]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

they dont exclude anyone that accepts their message, if a gay person is religious and abstains from sex they can join.

And yet the adulterer doesn't have to refrain from sex.

yes they do sin is sin.

There are practicing adulterers in the pews of nearly every single church.

so what? Sinners are not excluded from god's word.

So what? You are avoiding the point. Many church's want to exclude gay members.

No they don't they want them to stop sinning, Perhaps you can explain why a practicing gay would WANT to go to a Christian church?

Because they are a Christian?

 

[Penelope]

129. It includes a paragraph entitled “Doctrine of Personal Integrity,” which states: All Christians are under obligation to seek to follow the example of Christ in their own lives and in human society. In the spirit of Christ, Christians should oppose racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including pornography. We believe God’s intention for a sexual relationship is to be between a husband and wife in the lifelong covenant of marriage. Every other sexual relationship beyond this is outside of God’s design and is not in keeping with God’s original plan for humanity. We believe every person should embrace, not reject, their God-given sex. We should work to provide for the orphaned, the needy, the abused, the aged, the helpless, and the sick. We should speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death.
------------------------------
unbelievable.

Oh the horra, the horra. How DARE THEY oppose racism and provide for the needy? Seriously, what could be wrong with a group stating their commonly held beliefs, especially when there is nothing in them that is derogatory towards another group? Would you demand that an Arsenal fan club has to admit Blackpool fans, and if they don't, they are bigots?

You do realize, don't you, that if you oppose their freedom to exclude homosexuals, you also oppose their freedom to exclude racists and the greedy, as well as abusers? IOW, you can't have it both ways, either a group can exclude or they cannot.

They are intolerant bigots. They are in college and should abide by the college laws.

They are. They state the qualifications to join their group just like every other group the university recognizes. The university CLAIMS they are intolerant, but the bylaws do NOT exclude homosexuals, they merely state that Christians should oppose homosexuality, racism, greed, selfishness, pornography, and vice. A homosexual who was convicted that his/her lifestyle was unGodly and rejected it would be welcomed. Face it, you don't oppose a group being exclusive, you oppose any group stating that homosexuality is anything less than laudable.

Oddly they rarely list adultery in this list nor do they exclude those practicing adultery.

Probably because, as a group of young college kids, not very many are married. It would be somewhat like Weight Watchers coming out against Anorexia. Yes, a real problem but not likely one any members would deal with.

It's really not up to us though to say what they should and should not include.

Just noting a big one many seem willing to overlook.

their mission statement says sex is between married couples. I believe that addresses it.

Gay couples can now be married.

Not by Gods law.

By God's law Trump couldn't marry Melania without being an adulterer.

Adultery is a sin.

So what? I have been married 37 years to the same woman it is not my place to condemn others, just not support their life style. I don't condemn homosexuals I just don't support their life choices or style.

This isn't about you.

it isnt about you either and nothing the students listed is against the religion.

I imagine just hypocritical.

Nope you have no idea how they live their lives,

LOL you disagree? Be specific now and explain how you know how they live their lives

Unless they are excluding members who have premarital sex, etc they are being hypocritical. These are college students.

Now my argument is a bigger picture argument also. There are many religious groups excluding those who are gay but readily accept those committing adultery even though the Bible condemns that far more.

they dont exclude anyone that accepts their message, if a gay person is religious and abstains from sex they can join.

Heterosexual anal intercourse (HAI) is not an uncommon behavior and it confers a higher risk of HIV transmission than vaginal intercourse. We examined data from heterosexuals recruited in 20 US cities for the 2013 National HIV Behavioral Surveillance system. We assessed correlates of reporting HAI in the previous year. Then, among people reporting HAI in the past year, we assessed what event-level factors are associated with having HAI at last sex. Thirty percent of women and 35% of men reported HAI in the past year. Among people who had HAI in the past year, those who had HAI at last sex were more likely to have a partner who was HIV-positive or of unknown status or to have exchanged money or drugs for sex at last sex. Information that highlights the risk of HIV transmission associated with HAI would complement existing HIV prevention messages focused on heterosexuals in the U.S.
Keywords: heterosexual anal intercourse, HIV/AIDS, high-risk behavior, condom use

Prevalence and Correlates of Heterosexual Anal Intercourse among Men and Women, 20 U.S. Cities (nih.gov)

Also I suspect many couples who are heterosexual have anal sex.