Christians Have an Obligation to Support the President

[Rustic]

Sort of like the obligation the elite on the left believe that minorities and women have to the Democratic Party.

There is no “obligation” of women or minorities to vote Democrat. I have never heard an evangelical minister tell their congregants to vote Democrat. Or that God put Trump in office. This is strictly the purview of evangelical Christians who go to Trump and kiss his ring for favours. Like keeping pornographic pictures of themselves off the Internet.

If I found out my pastor and his wife were into homemade porn and kink, I’d find another church.

Bullshit any minority or women who doesn't vote Democrat is slammed by the left.

So what? Is your vote determined by what othets think of it? No? Then what makes you think you possess this magical power, when others do not? Your rant is stupid.

Right so the next time you hear someone call a Black person who doesn't vote Democrat an Uncle Tom I sure you will set them straight ?

I personally have never heard of a black person who votes Republican, called an “Uncle Tom” by anyone other than conservative posters on message boards.

I imagine blacks probably respond to other blacks voting Republican, the same way I do about anyone who isn’t wealthy, white or male voting Republican, which is incredulity that so many fools can be consistently gulled into voting against their own best interests.

Fortunately, fewer and fewer are these days thanks to Donald Trump. Educated women, racial and religious minorities, principled mainstream ecumenical Christians, as well as gays, and now military members are openly saying that abusing refugees, betraying your allies, and coddling murderous despots is what they voted for.

You have to be a clone to except any part of socialism, Socialism has been around since the beginning of civilization… And it has 100% failure rate long-term. Fact

 

[Bush92]

We were founded on the rock of the Church of Christ.
God in America: One: A New Adam | FRONTLINE

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Sort of like the obligation the elite on the left believe that minorities and women have to the Democratic Party.

There is no “obligation” of women or minorities to vote Democrat. I have never heard an evangelical minister tell their congregants to vote Democrat. Or that God put Trump in office. This is strictly the purview of evangelical Christians who go to Trump and kiss his ring for favours. Like keeping pornographic pictures of themselves off the Internet.

If I found out my pastor and his wife were into homemade porn and kink, I’d find another church.

Bullshit any minority or women who doesn't vote Democrat is slammed by the left.

So what? Is your vote determined by what othets think of it? No? Then what makes you think you possess this magical power, when others do not? Your rant is stupid.

Right so the next time you hear someone call a Black person who doesn't vote Democrat an Uncle Tom I sure you will set them straight ?

I.

I imagine blacks probably respond to other blacks voting Republican, the same way I do about anyone who isn’t wealthy, white or male voting Republican, which is incredulity that so many fools can be consistently gulled into voting against their own best interests.

Fortunately, fewer and fewer are these days thanks to Donald Trump. Educated women, racial and religious minorities, principled mainstream ecumenical Christians, as well as gays, and now military members are openly saying that abusing refugees, betraying your allies, and coddling murderous despots is what they voted for.

personally have never heard of a black person who votes Republican, called an “Uncle Tom” by anyone other than conservative posters on message boards
Of course no whitr Democrat is going to say that you leave that to other blacks to do your dirty work, I was married to a Black Conservative women and you wouldn't believe the shit she had to put up with when it came to dealing with Liberals.

I imagine blacks probably respond to other blacks voting Republican, the same way I do about anyone who isn’t wealthy, white or male voting Republican, which is incredulity that so many fools can be consistently gulled into voting against their own best interests.
And there it is the belief that Black people can't make their own way without the benevolence of the Democratic party. What the fuck have they done for the Black community ?

 

[Lysistrata]

It's God's will.

<< American evangelicals “have a moral obligation to enthusiastically back” the president. >>

‘Render to God and Trump’: Ralph Reed calls for 2020 obedience to Trump

Sort of like the obligation the elite on the left believe that minorities and women have to the Democratic Party.

There is no “obligation” of women or minorities to vote Democrat. I have never heard an evangelical minister tell their congregants to vote Democrat. Or that God put Trump in office. This is strictly the purview of evangelical Christians who go to Trump and kiss his ring for favours. Like keeping pornographic pictures of themselves off the Internet.

If I found out my pastor and his wife were into homemade porn and kink, I’d find another church.

Bullshit any minority or women who doesn't vote Democrat is slammed by the left.

So why do white people who don't vote Republican get called all sorts of names right here on USMB, as well as elsewhere, even white women, whom the republicans insist on treating as second-class citizens who must be subservient to anything a crazy white guy says? You seem to think that women and minorities should vote against their own interests, which is not logical.

The current republicans absolutely fail to explain to women and minorities why their policies would be better for these voters. In fact, all of them flee through the back door rather then actually fielding questions from these voters that would touch on their concerns and giving cogent answers. One cannot garner votes by cowardice and ignoring the voters.

 

[Correll]

The Christian Right has sold their soul to this guy.

Seriously. What are you talking about?

Well, there's really no way to answer this question for you.

If you truly don't know, or see, what I'm talking about already, I can't think of words that might explain it for you.

I like to think that I'm fairly good with words, but there are times that a situation is simply beyond me.
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Your assumption that your p.o.v. is the only valid point of view, is just arrogance on your part.

Not once have I said that. Ever.

Pretty amazing, how often people here make assumptions on my positions without being able to quote me.

Just make it up as you go.
.

I didn't say that you said it. Funny how you got that wrong. Ironic even.

 

[Mac1958]

The Christian Right has sold their soul to this guy.

Seriously. What are you talking about?

Well, there's really no way to answer this question for you.

If you truly don't know, or see, what I'm talking about already, I can't think of words that might explain it for you.

I like to think that I'm fairly good with words, but there are times that a situation is simply beyond me.
.

Your assumption that your p.o.v. is the only valid point of view, is just arrogance on your part.

Not once have I said that. Ever.

Pretty amazing, how often people here make assumptions on my positions without being able to quote me.

Just make it up as you go.
.

I didn't say that you said it. Funny how you got that wrong. Ironic even.

Oh, so you just made it up entirely on your own. I don't even have to come CLOSE to saying it now.

This just gets better. Or worse.

Going forward, when you want to communicate with me, just do it on your own. Just go back and forth with yourself. You don't need me.

This is Trumpworld, who cares.
.

 

[edward37]

How can anyone support this low life pos, cursing in front of the country ? This is your AH president that you idiots support?

 

[Correll]

Got it. YOu are confused about the concept of speaking of groups, generally. Ironically, this is common failure of the liberal mind. Generalization, is basic stepping stone of early child development. THe child does not have to touch every fire to know that all fires are hot. The child knows that generally fire is hot. Liberals, somehow lose this.

You were the one generalizing, as if you know all liberals.. There are many liberal Christians. You obviously don't know what irony means, because your latest post is a prime example of it.

Correct. I am generalizing.

Generalizing does NOT mean that I pretend to know every individual member of a general group.


Yes, there are exceptions to generalizations. Most people learn that in the toddler stage of development. Doges are nice. But some dogs are not nice. Dont' pet until you ask the owner. ANy of this ringing a bell?



Generally speaking, liberals are anti-Christian bigots.


And they are so narrow minded, that they can't even respect that people they hate, and actively oppose on nearly everything, organize and push back.

Generally speaking 60% of liberals ARE Christians, so your statement that most liberals are anti-Christian bigots is patently FALSE.

Except that we see liberals daily ridicule Christians, Christianity, even the very idea of religion on this site, and we never see people like you come to the defense of Christians. So, my statement that most liberals are anti-Christian bigots, is fits the observable facts quite nicely.

Hey, you a Christian? How did you feel when Obama contemptuously dismissed, Rust Belt voters as "clinging to their bibles"?

I am a Presbyterian elder and if my minister ever told me who to vote for, I’d leave the congregation. I attend Church to feed my spirituality, not to align my politics.

But you love MLK, don't you? Because that was "different" because of "reasons".

If you are putting your children in religious schools so they can attend an “all-white” school, you are not obeying Jesus’ teachings.

Save your race baiting for you leftard friends. Don't do that again. You are old, so I am trying to show some respect. Earn it, or lose it.

When you are mixing politics and religion, it is the antithesis of His teachings. No different that bringing money-changers into the Temple.

But you love MLK, don't you? THat was "different" because of "reasons".

When you use the Bible to justify bigotry and abuse, you are violating His commandment to love one another.

It is impressive the skill you libs hav developed, to frame everything you want, as "love" or a "right", so that any disagreement is spinnable as "hate" or "discrimination".

If you put all the effort into actually making the case for your positions?

Well, we will never know.

When you are willing to put MY religious beliefs into law, I’d be a lot more willing to mix religion and politics that the religion of hate, bigotry, misogyny and division I see in the right wing evangelical movement. Evangelicals are a political party masquerading as a religion to avoid the laws against hate.

These people give Christianity a bad name and their incursions into politics should be shut down as the Founders intended.

Got it. BLah, blah, blah, hate. Blah, blah blah, bigotry.



ALL WE KNOW IS THAT REED WROTE A BOOK AND IN IT HE EXPLAINS WHY HE THINKS THAT CHRISTIANS SHOULD SUPPORT TRUMP.



And you libs are jumping ugly just from THAT, when we don't have anything on what his arguments ARE?


Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you people?

You complain that "Except that we see liberals daily ridicule Christians, Christianity, even the very idea of religion on this site, and we never see people like you come to the defense of Christians." You forget that a lot of this "ridicule" comes from people who are themselves Christian.
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I forgot nothing. My point stands. They are anti-Christina bigots, regardless of how they self identify.

 

[Crixus]

It's God's will.

<< American evangelicals “have a moral obligation to enthusiastically back” the president. >>

‘Render to God and Trump’: Ralph Reed calls for 2020 obedience to Trump

Fuck Ralph Reed. He should lose any tax exempt status he may have.

 

[Correll]

Seriously. What are you talking about?

Well, there's really no way to answer this question for you.

If you truly don't know, or see, what I'm talking about already, I can't think of words that might explain it for you.

I like to think that I'm fairly good with words, but there are times that a situation is simply beyond me.
.

Your assumption that your p.o.v. is the only valid point of view, is just arrogance on your part.

Not once have I said that. Ever.

Pretty amazing, how often people here make assumptions on my positions without being able to quote me.

Just make it up as you go.
.

I didn't say that you said it. Funny how you got that wrong. Ironic even.

Oh, so you just made it up entirely on your own. I don't even have to come CLOSE to saying it now.

This just gets better. Or worse.

Going forward, when you want to communicate with me, just do it on your own. Just go back and forth with yourself. You don't need me.

This is Trumpworld, who cares.
.

It does not take "trumpworld" to notice when someone, instead of explaining himself, states something like,


"If you truly don't know, or see, what I'm talking about already, I can't think of words that might explain it for you."

 

[edward37]

GOD may forgive Republicans ,but I won't

 

[Correll]

GOD may forgive Republicans ,but I won't

FOrgiveness? FOr what you crazy leftard?

 

[edward37]

to our moron-in-chief: .@realDonaldTrump It's clear you've never read our nation's Constitution or learned how to use Google:

"The House of Representatives shall chose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment." Article 1, Section 2.

 

[Correll]

to our moron-in-chief: .@realDonaldTrump It's clear you've never read our nation's Constitution or learned how to use Google:

"The House of Representatives shall chose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment." Article 1, Section 2.

You do a coup, you destroy democracy. Have you really thought this through, lefty?

 

[Lysistrata]

You were the one generalizing, as if you know all liberals.. There are many liberal Christians. You obviously don't know what irony means, because your latest post is a prime example of it.

Correct. I am generalizing.

Generalizing does NOT mean that I pretend to know every individual member of a general group.


Yes, there are exceptions to generalizations. Most people learn that in the toddler stage of development. Doges are nice. But some dogs are not nice. Dont' pet until you ask the owner. ANy of this ringing a bell?



Generally speaking, liberals are anti-Christian bigots.


And they are so narrow minded, that they can't even respect that people they hate, and actively oppose on nearly everything, organize and push back.

Generally speaking 60% of liberals ARE Christians, so your statement that most liberals are anti-Christian bigots is patently FALSE.

Except that we see liberals daily ridicule Christians, Christianity, even the very idea of religion on this site, and we never see people like you come to the defense of Christians. So, my statement that most liberals are anti-Christian bigots, is fits the observable facts quite nicely.

Hey, you a Christian? How did you feel when Obama contemptuously dismissed, Rust Belt voters as "clinging to their bibles"?

I am a Presbyterian elder and if my minister ever told me who to vote for, I’d leave the congregation. I attend Church to feed my spirituality, not to align my politics.

But you love MLK, don't you? Because that was "different" because of "reasons".

If you are putting your children in religious schools so they can attend an “all-white” school, you are not obeying Jesus’ teachings.

Save your race baiting for you leftard friends. Don't do that again. You are old, so I am trying to show some respect. Earn it, or lose it.

When you are mixing politics and religion, it is the antithesis of His teachings. No different that bringing money-changers into the Temple.

But you love MLK, don't you? THat was "different" because of "reasons".

When you use the Bible to justify bigotry and abuse, you are violating His commandment to love one another.

It is impressive the skill you libs hav developed, to frame everything you want, as "love" or a "right", so that any disagreement is spinnable as "hate" or "discrimination".

If you put all the effort into actually making the case for your positions?

Well, we will never know.

When you are willing to put MY religious beliefs into law, I’d be a lot more willing to mix religion and politics that the religion of hate, bigotry, misogyny and division I see in the right wing evangelical movement. Evangelicals are a political party masquerading as a religion to avoid the laws against hate.

These people give Christianity a bad name and their incursions into politics should be shut down as the Founders intended.

Got it. BLah, blah, blah, hate. Blah, blah blah, bigotry.



ALL WE KNOW IS THAT REED WROTE A BOOK AND IN IT HE EXPLAINS WHY HE THINKS THAT CHRISTIANS SHOULD SUPPORT TRUMP.



And you libs are jumping ugly just from THAT, when we don't have anything on what his arguments ARE?


Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you people?

You complain that "Except that we see liberals daily ridicule Christians, Christianity, even the very idea of religion on this site, and we never see people like you come to the defense of Christians." You forget that a lot of this "ridicule" comes from people who are themselves Christian.
.....

I forgot nothing. My point stands. They are anti-Christina bigots, regardless of how they self identify.

How can a Christian be an anti-Christian bigot? You make three mistakes. The first is using the generic umbrella term "Christian" when you are actually referring to differences between the various denominations of Christianity. Secondly, you seek to define the entire Christian faith according to the group that you individually identify with, which is incredibly arrogant on your part. Third, you are trying to identify the entire Christian faith, all denominations and variations, with a particular political party.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We were founded on the rock of the Church of Christ.
God in America: One: A New Adam | FRONTLINE

False. We were founded on secular government and classical liberalism.

 

[Correll]

Correct. I am generalizing.

Generalizing does NOT mean that I pretend to know every individual member of a general group.


Yes, there are exceptions to generalizations. Most people learn that in the toddler stage of development. Doges are nice. But some dogs are not nice. Dont' pet until you ask the owner. ANy of this ringing a bell?



Generally speaking, liberals are anti-Christian bigots.


And they are so narrow minded, that they can't even respect that people they hate, and actively oppose on nearly everything, organize and push back.

Generally speaking 60% of liberals ARE Christians, so your statement that most liberals are anti-Christian bigots is patently FALSE.

Except that we see liberals daily ridicule Christians, Christianity, even the very idea of religion on this site, and we never see people like you come to the defense of Christians. So, my statement that most liberals are anti-Christian bigots, is fits the observable facts quite nicely.

Hey, you a Christian? How did you feel when Obama contemptuously dismissed, Rust Belt voters as "clinging to their bibles"?

I am a Presbyterian elder and if my minister ever told me who to vote for, I’d leave the congregation. I attend Church to feed my spirituality, not to align my politics.

But you love MLK, don't you? Because that was "different" because of "reasons".

If you are putting your children in religious schools so they can attend an “all-white” school, you are not obeying Jesus’ teachings.

Save your race baiting for you leftard friends. Don't do that again. You are old, so I am trying to show some respect. Earn it, or lose it.

When you are mixing politics and religion, it is the antithesis of His teachings. No different that bringing money-changers into the Temple.

But you love MLK, don't you? THat was "different" because of "reasons".

When you use the Bible to justify bigotry and abuse, you are violating His commandment to love one another.

It is impressive the skill you libs hav developed, to frame everything you want, as "love" or a "right", so that any disagreement is spinnable as "hate" or "discrimination".

If you put all the effort into actually making the case for your positions?

Well, we will never know.

When you are willing to put MY religious beliefs into law, I’d be a lot more willing to mix religion and politics that the religion of hate, bigotry, misogyny and division I see in the right wing evangelical movement. Evangelicals are a political party masquerading as a religion to avoid the laws against hate.

These people give Christianity a bad name and their incursions into politics should be shut down as the Founders intended.

Got it. BLah, blah, blah, hate. Blah, blah blah, bigotry.



ALL WE KNOW IS THAT REED WROTE A BOOK AND IN IT HE EXPLAINS WHY HE THINKS THAT CHRISTIANS SHOULD SUPPORT TRUMP.



And you libs are jumping ugly just from THAT, when we don't have anything on what his arguments ARE?


Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you people?

You complain that "Except that we see liberals daily ridicule Christians, Christianity, even the very idea of religion on this site, and we never see people like you come to the defense of Christians." You forget that a lot of this "ridicule" comes from people who are themselves Christian.
.....

I forgot nothing. My point stands. They are anti-Christina bigots, regardless of how they self identify.

How can a Christian be an anti-Christian bigot? You make three mistakes. The first is using the generic umbrella term "Christian" when you are actually referring to differences between the various denominations of Christianity. Secondly, you seek to define the entire Christian faith according to the group that you individually identify with, which is incredibly arrogant on your part. Third, you are trying to identify the entire Christian faith, all denominations and variations, with a particular political party.

1. By holding bigoted opinions about Christians.

2. The lib comments I refer to, generally do not distinguish between "Christians" and right leaning Evangelicals. So, I dont' either, when I discuss liberal bigotry.


3. I do not seek to define the entire Christian faith as anything. THe sloppiness of liberal bigotry, is not relevant to my point, so I dont' address it, and it is something THEY do anyways.


4. I do not attempt to identify all of Christianity with the GOP. I am well aware of the sloppiness of the liberal bigots I refer to. I don't see how mentioning it is relevant.

 

[edward37]

to our moron-in-chief: .@realDonaldTrump It's clear you've never read our nation's Constitution or learned how to use Google:

"The House of Representatives shall chose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment." Article 1, Section 2.

You do a coup, you destroy democracy. Have you really thought this through, lefty?

Have you read the constitution that you republicans are trying to bastardize?

 

[Correll]

to our moron-in-chief: .@realDonaldTrump It's clear you've never read our nation's Constitution or learned how to use Google:

"The House of Representatives shall chose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment." Article 1, Section 2.

You do a coup, you destroy democracy. Have you really thought this through, lefty?

Have you read the constitution that you republicans are trying to bastardize?

My point stands. You fuckers do a coup, you destroy democracy.


My question stands. HAVE YOU THOUGHT THIS THROUGH, LEFTY?

 

[edward37]

to our moron-in-chief: .@realDonaldTrump It's clear you've never read our nation's Constitution or learned how to use Google:

"The House of Representatives shall chose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment." Article 1, Section 2.

You do a coup, you destroy democracy. Have you really thought this through, lefty?

Have you read the constitution that you republicans are trying to bastardize?

My point stands. You fuckers do a coup, you destroy democracy.


My question stands. HAVE YOU THOUGHT THIS THROUGH, LEFTY?

Getting this pos this MF out of our WH is the most important thing our nation can do AND FUK all republicans who can support this POS