Civil War Facts

[bripat9643]

SC's 'declaration' was not legal or legitimate.

Really? Says who?....

The Supreme Court.

Right, after the Civil war when it was packed with Lincoln appointed hacks in a decision that included numerous outright lies.

According to a brainless, uneducated apologist for slavery and treason? Your bitter, childish opinions are worthless.

I posted facts that you can't honestly deny.

 

[bripat9643]

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They weren't criminals. .....

They very clearly were, and were treated far too gently.

Wrong, as always. You also demonstrate what a complete asshole you are.

Scumbag traitors like them, and you, only deserve to be crushed as your ilk always is in the end. Sucks for you to wake up every day knowing your beloved institution is never coming back to America, and that my Union is strong and WHOLE.

Confederates weren't traitors, .....

The exact definition of traitors.

Wrong. Read the Constitution.

 

[bripat9643]

Sorry, asshole, but a plantation is not a concentration camp. People don't become slaves because they oppose the government. Lincoln is the inventor of the concentration camp.

Ask the slave living, err... make that existing, on the plantation. So how do people become slaves? Many slaves oppose their masters, and have the scars on their backs to prove it.

The fact that slavery is unpleasant doesn't make a plantation a concentration camp. The inmates in a concentration camp are there because they opposed the government.

Try not to be so deliberately stupid.

So the crime of 'opposing the government' lands you in a concentration camp. What crime does one need to commit to end up on a plantation?

Generally no crime at all is required to become a slave.

How fucking stupid are you?

Sorry, asshole, but a plantation is not a concentration camp. People don't become slaves because they oppose the government. Lincoln is the inventor of the concentration camp.

Ask the slave living, err... make that existing, on the plantation. So how do people become slaves? Many slaves oppose their masters, and have the scars on their backs to prove it.

The fact that slavery is unpleasant doesn't make a plantation a concentration camp. The inmates in a concentration camp are there because they opposed the government.

Try not to be so deliberately stupid.

So the crime of 'opposing the government' lands you in a concentration camp. What crime does one need to commit to end up on a plantation?

Generally no crime at all is required to become a slave.

How fucking stupid are you?

So they make you a slave as a reward for some noble deed?

Quit trying to prove that you're an idiot. You know why people become slaves.

 

[bripat9643]

.... Ft Sumter was South Carolina territory. .....

...in the United States of America.

Only until it seceded, moron.

Wrong. Proven wrong.

When?

April 9, 1865.

So might makes right? You only proved that you're a Stalinist scumbag.

 

[bripat9643]

Civil War Fact:

The south were the only people to start a war to prove that they were better than the slaves and lose.

They didn't start the war, moron.

Yes they did.

Wrong.

 

[Unkotare]

They very clearly were, and were treated far too gently.

Wrong, as always. You also demonstrate what a complete asshole you are.

Scumbag traitors like them, and you, only deserve to be crushed as your ilk always is in the end. Sucks for you to wake up every day knowing your beloved institution is never coming back to America, and that my Union is strong and WHOLE.

Confederates weren't traitors, .....

The exact definition of traitors.

Wrong. Read the Constitution.

Unlike you, I have actually read it, scumbag.

 

[Unkotare]

Civil War Fact:

The south were the only people to start a war to prove that they were better than the slaves and lose.

They didn't start the war, moron.

Yes they did.

Wrong.

You dropped out of school too soon.

 

[bripat9643]

Lincoln invented the concentration camp and put thousands of Americans in them without a trial. He laid waste to large areas of American, plundered private property, destroyed entire American cities, and caused the deaths of 850,000 Americans. Those are only a few of his crimes.

Yeah, he was a swell guy

Lincoln did not invent the concentration camp. That dubious honor goes to whoever dreamed up the plantation system.

Sorry, asshole, but a plantation is not a concentration camp. People don't become slaves because they oppose the government. Lincoln is the inventor of the concentration camp.

Ask the slave living, err... make that existing, on the plantation. So how do people become slaves? Many slaves oppose their masters, and have the scars on their backs to prove it.

The fact that slavery is unpleasant doesn't make a plantation a concentration camp. The inmates in a concentration camp are there because they opposed the government.

Try not to be so deliberately stupid.

Incarceration for committing a crime does not constitute a concentration camp.

Opposing the government is not a crime, in any rational society. The inmates in Lincolns gulag committed no crimes, you sleazy apologist for a tyrant.

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong, as always. You also demonstrate what a complete asshole you are.

Scumbag traitors like them, and you, only deserve to be crushed as your ilk always is in the end. Sucks for you to wake up every day knowing your beloved institution is never coming back to America, and that my Union is strong and WHOLE.

Confederates weren't traitors, .....

The exact definition of traitors.

Wrong. Read the Constitution.

Unlike you, I have actually read it, scumbag.

Please post the definition of "treason."

 

[there4eyeM]

Lincoln invented the concentration camp and put thousands of Americans in them without a trial. He laid waste to large areas of American, plundered private property, destroyed entire American cities, and caused the deaths of 850,000 Americans. Those are only a few of his crimes.

Yeah, he was a swell guy

Lincoln did not invent the concentration camp. That dubious honor goes to whoever dreamed up the plantation system.

Sorry, asshole, but a plantation is not a concentration camp. People don't become slaves because they oppose the government. Lincoln is the inventor of the concentration camp.

Ask the slave living, err... make that existing, on the plantation. So how do people become slaves? Many slaves oppose their masters, and have the scars on their backs to prove it.

The fact that slavery is unpleasant doesn't make a plantation a concentration camp. The inmates in a concentration camp are there because they opposed the government.

Try not to be so deliberately stupid.

So the crime of 'opposing the government' lands you in a concentration camp. What crime does one need to commit to end up on a plantation?

The crime is not on the part of the slave, but on the part of the one who regards another as a slave.

 

[there4eyeM]

The basis for keeping slaves is that the might to do so is present. Any means to end slavery is as justifiable as slavery itself.

 

[rightwinger]

The new Constitution was to make the Perpetual Union more perfect, as anyone at the time or anyone who can read English would understand.

Then it's very odd that the new constitution they adopted says nothing, not one word, about the Union being perpetual, permanent, etc. The Articles of Confederation did so several times, but not the federal constitution. There is also no prohibition in the Constitution against a state revoking its ratification. Nothing in the document says that ratification is irrevocable. Indeed, if the framers had inserted such language, several states probably would not have ratified it.

Nothing says you can break up the United States
Nothing says you can come and go as you please

Nothing says you can't leave if you please, shit for brains.

If the Constitution intended for states to leave, they would have provisions for leaving covering division of property, joint assets, situations like Ft Sumter, how debt is divided

The constitution is a scrap of paper. It doesn't have intentions. If you sign a contract, and it doesn't say 'X,' then you are perfectly free to do 'X.' That's how contracts work, and the Constitution is a contract.

There is no way you can possibly spin the Constitution into meaning that a state couldn't leave. That's why you make up these fairy tale legalism that have never been valid anywhere.

“In order to form a more perfect union”

Nothing about coming and going as you wish

 

[Unkotare]

Lincoln did not invent the concentration camp. That dubious honor goes to whoever dreamed up the plantation system.

Sorry, asshole, but a plantation is not a concentration camp. People don't become slaves because they oppose the government. Lincoln is the inventor of the concentration camp.

Ask the slave living, err... make that existing, on the plantation. So how do people become slaves? Many slaves oppose their masters, and have the scars on their backs to prove it.

The fact that slavery is unpleasant doesn't make a plantation a concentration camp. The inmates in a concentration camp are there because they opposed the government.

Try not to be so deliberately stupid.

Incarceration for committing a crime does not constitute a concentration camp.

Opposing the government is not a crime, ....t.

Taking up arms against it is, idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah, that Lincoln was certainly "ruthless and despicable". Only someone as ruthless and despicable as Lincoln would deny to Good, White Southerners all the pleasures and profits that comes from being ruthless and despicable to Black people.

Lincoln invented the concentration camp and put thousands of Americans in them without a trial. He laid waste to large areas of American, plundered private property, destroyed entire American cities, and caused the deaths of 850,000 Americans. Those are only a few of his crimes.

Yeah, he was a swell guy

Lincoln did not invent the concentration camp. That dubious honor goes to whoever dreamed up the plantation system.

Sorry, asshole, but a plantation is not a concentration camp. People don't become slaves because they oppose the government. Lincoln is the inventor of the concentration camp.

Ask the slave living, err... make that existing, on the plantation. So how do people become slaves? Many slaves oppose their masters, and have the scars on their backs to prove it.

The fact that slavery is unpleasant doesn't make a plantation a concentration camp. The inmates in a concentration camp are there because they opposed the government.

Try not to be so deliberately stupid.

It is worse than a concentration camp
Not only are you there, but your family and descendants

 

[there4eyeM]

Then it's very odd that the new constitution they adopted says nothing, not one word, about the Union being perpetual, permanent, etc. The Articles of Confederation did so several times, but not the federal constitution. There is also no prohibition in the Constitution against a state revoking its ratification. Nothing in the document says that ratification is irrevocable. Indeed, if the framers had inserted such language, several states probably would not have ratified it.

Nothing says you can break up the United States
Nothing says you can come and go as you please

Nothing says you can't leave if you please, shit for brains.

If the Constitution intended for states to leave, they would have provisions for leaving covering division of property, joint assets, situations like Ft Sumter, how debt is divided

The constitution is a scrap of paper. It doesn't have intentions. If you sign a contract, and it doesn't say 'X,' then you are perfectly free to do 'X.' That's how contracts work, and the Constitution is a contract.

There is no way you can possibly spin the Constitution into meaning that a state couldn't leave. That's why you make up these fairy tale legalism that have never been valid anywhere.

“In order to form a more perfect union”

Nothing about coming and going as you wish

A more perfect Perpetual Union.

 

[bripat9643]

The basis for keeping slaves is that the might to do so is present. Any means to end slavery is as justifiable as slavery itself.

Murdering 850,000 people is not a justifiable means to end slavery.

 

[bripat9643]

Lincoln invented the concentration camp and put thousands of Americans in them without a trial. He laid waste to large areas of American, plundered private property, destroyed entire American cities, and caused the deaths of 850,000 Americans. Those are only a few of his crimes.

Yeah, he was a swell guy

Lincoln did not invent the concentration camp. That dubious honor goes to whoever dreamed up the plantation system.

Sorry, asshole, but a plantation is not a concentration camp. People don't become slaves because they oppose the government. Lincoln is the inventor of the concentration camp.

Ask the slave living, err... make that existing, on the plantation. So how do people become slaves? Many slaves oppose their masters, and have the scars on their backs to prove it.

The fact that slavery is unpleasant doesn't make a plantation a concentration camp. The inmates in a concentration camp are there because they opposed the government.

Try not to be so deliberately stupid.

It is worse than a concentration camp
Not only are you there, but your family and descendants

Whether it's better or worse is irrelevant. The fact is that it's a violation of the Bill of Rights and the work of a tyrant.

Are you saying it was OK for Lincoln to put people in concentration camps?

 

[bripat9643]

Sorry, asshole, but a plantation is not a concentration camp. People don't become slaves because they oppose the government. Lincoln is the inventor of the concentration camp.

Ask the slave living, err... make that existing, on the plantation. So how do people become slaves? Many slaves oppose their masters, and have the scars on their backs to prove it.

The fact that slavery is unpleasant doesn't make a plantation a concentration camp. The inmates in a concentration camp are there because they opposed the government.

Try not to be so deliberately stupid.

Incarceration for committing a crime does not constitute a concentration camp.

Opposing the government is not a crime, ....t.

Taking up arms against it is, idiot.

Not when it's a foreign government that is invading your homeland.

 

[bripat9643]

Then it's very odd that the new constitution they adopted says nothing, not one word, about the Union being perpetual, permanent, etc. The Articles of Confederation did so several times, but not the federal constitution. There is also no prohibition in the Constitution against a state revoking its ratification. Nothing in the document says that ratification is irrevocable. Indeed, if the framers had inserted such language, several states probably would not have ratified it.

Nothing says you can break up the United States
Nothing says you can come and go as you please

Nothing says you can't leave if you please, shit for brains.

If the Constitution intended for states to leave, they would have provisions for leaving covering division of property, joint assets, situations like Ft Sumter, how debt is divided

The constitution is a scrap of paper. It doesn't have intentions. If you sign a contract, and it doesn't say 'X,' then you are perfectly free to do 'X.' That's how contracts work, and the Constitution is a contract.

There is no way you can possibly spin the Constitution into meaning that a state couldn't leave. That's why you make up these fairy tale legalism that have never been valid anywhere.

“In order to form a more perfect union”

Nothing about coming and going as you wish

If it says nothing about leaving, then it's perfectly OK to do so.

 

[there4eyeM]

Anyone keeping slaves deserves anything that might happen to him.