Civil war?

[B. Kidd]

You got another straw man for me.

Of course I do.

You joined USMB in late April and are already running off the rails!!

Change your nick to 'Trainwreck'.

 

[HandleTheTruth]

Of course I do.

You joined USMB in late April and are already running off the rails!!

Change your nick to 'Trainwreck'.

Projection is your tool. You're a joke. You are dismissed.

 

[B. Kidd]

Projection is your tool. You're a joke. You are dismissed.

You can't handle the truth.
Sad.

 

[Concerned American]

Trump condemned the violence of January 6th and I heard him say that people should behave lawfully.

But not so from the democrats with this mess.

This is the first time in US history where a ruling political party has openly fostered murdering their political opponents.

Not just opponents--objective justices of the SCOTUS.

 

[Concerned American]

Projection is your tool. You're a joke. You are dismissed.

Run along rookie troll, we've seen your kind of bullshit before.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I guess it's fair to wonder if the millions of us who wish these "warriors" would grow the fuck up are in danger of being shot in their "war".

In fairness, though, it's pretty unlikely they'll be actually shooting at ANYTHING outside of empty cheap beer cans in their back yard.

Yes. That's it.

Paint the "other side "as a bunch of low-class, unsophisticated rednecks.

Hypocrisy is your middle name.

 

[BlindBoo]

This sounds super serious. What did Chucky say?

 

[B. Kidd]

Run along rookie troll, we've seen your kind of bullshit before.

If Adam Schiff and Maxine Watters had a love child, the stupid rookie would be it!!

 

[Missourian]

Japan attacked us first didn't they. That drug us into a war we didn't start.

We were already in the war via lend lease...and we embargoed Japan from oil...which is what drove them to war in the first place...

Lend-Lease was enacted March 1941... Japan attacked in December.


Lend-Lease - Wikipedia

The 1 Reason Imperial Japan Attacked Pearl Harbor: Oil.

Or an oil embargo, that is.

nationalinterest.org

Lend-lease...that sounds awfully familiar... doesn't it...

Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Votto]

Woodrow Wilson was a racist and a strict segregationist. But you can't blame WWII on him. He was not responsible for the harsh treatment of Germany nor was he responsible for the Europeans allowing Germany to rearm. Republicans and isolationist made sure the US took a back seat in world affairs after the war to end all wars.

Wilson’s War: How Woodrow Wilson’s Great Blunder Led to Hitler, Lenin, Stalin and World War II

It is difficult for many of us to understand the almost euphoric enthusiasm with which millions of Europeans marched off to war in the summer of 1914. For

fee.org

Jim Powell, in his book Wilson’s War, tells the story of how this came about, what the consequences were, and the role Woodrow Wilson played in making this entire catastrophe worse than it might have been.

While not ignoring Imperial German militarism, aggressiveness, and bellicosity in the decades before World War I, Powell emphasizes the various nationalist ambitions and secret alliances among all the major belligerents that kept the war from being simply “Germany’s fault.” Battlefield incompetence by generals and political arrogance and stubbornness by national leaders on both sides dragged the war on and on in the face of mounting casualties and growing economic hardship unknown in living memory.

At first, Powell explains, Wilson—a vain and often vengeful man—claimed the role of impartial arbiter to bring the war to a negotiated conclusion. But soon both he and his circle of cabinet members and advisers decided that victory should belong to Great Britain and France. Finally, after winning reelection in 1916 on the slogan “He kept us out of war,” Wilson had Congress declare war on Germany in April 1917, although neither Germany nor any of its allies had attacked or threatened the United States. At the peace conference that followed the November 1918 armistice, Wilson’s idealistic rhetoric was drowned out by the imperial and territorial ambitions of the British and French that left Germany and the former Austro-Hungarian and Russian Empires in a shambles.

Powell persuasively suggests that if America had stayed out of the war the belligerents, exhausted and with no hope of a clear battlefield victory, might have accepted the need to end the conflict without any winner. Had that happened, there might well have been no Bolshevik revolution in Russia and therefore no deadly 75-year “experiment” in Soviet communism under Lenin, Stalin, and those who followed them. If Germany had not been humiliated, stripped of 13 percent of its territory, burdened with “war guilt” and heavy reparations, and left in political and economic chaos, a demagogue like Hitler, with his Nazi ideology of racism and blood lust for revenge and conquest through a new war, might not have come to power.

Had America not taken the path of foreign intervention in 1917, it might not have set the precedent of assuming the mantle of global policeman throughout the remainder of the twentieth century and now into the 21st century. In the world Woodrow Wilson did so much to create, the United States suffered not only hundreds of thousands of casualties in two global wars, but also over a hundred thousand additional deaths in the Korean and Vietnam wars.

 

[Votto]

Woodrow Wilson was such a bad President, he is virtually the only US war time President in DC not to have a monument dedicated to him

Even Progressives know.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We need to unite, not further divide ourselves. The elite/oligarchy wants us divided and resorting to violence. Violence begets violence and the elite/oligarchy benefits. The rest of us lose as they continue to limit our rights and impose tyranny.

Appease Porridge Hot
Appease Porridge Cold
Appease Porridge in the Pot
Sixty Years Old

 

[BlindBoo]

it might not have set the precedent of assuming the mantle of global policeman throughout the remainder of the twentieth century

'Might' is almost as powerful a word a 'if'.

If we had not intervened one can't know what might have happened.

 

[Votto]

'Might' is almost as powerful a word a 'if'.

If we had not intervened one can't know what might have happened.

Virtually all historians agree that the seeds of war were planted due to the agreement in which Germany was forced to sign when they surrendered

And there is no disagreement how much influence and power Wilson had in that process.

 

[westwall]

Thats your fault. Some had guns waiting in their cars.

What, two? If we were going to do as you asshats claim, there would have been a million of us, all armed you fucking retard.

 

[westwall]

Run along rookie troll, we've seen your kind of bullshit before.

Not a rookie, a sock. This is "truth matters" reborn. A moron on a good day, and a drunk moron, on a bad one.

 

[BlindBoo]

We were already in the war via lend lease...and we embargoed Japan from oil...which is what drove them to war in the first place...

Lend-Lease was enacted March 1941... Japan attacked in December.


Lend-Lease - Wikipedia

The 1 Reason Imperial Japan Attacked Pearl Harbor: Oil.

Or an oil embargo, that is.

nationalinterest.org

Lend-lease...that sounds awfully familiar... doesn't it...

Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Don't forget about the Fighting Tigers in China before 12-7.

 

[gipper]

Appease Porridge Hot
Appease Porridge Cold
Appease Porridge in the Pot
Sixty Years Old

Killing fellow Americans will only benefit the elite.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Killing fellow Americans will only benefit the elite.

And they are poking both sides to stir it up.

 

[gipper]

And they are poking both sides to stir it up.

Yes they are yet somehow miraculously, both sides can’t see they’re being played by the elite.