Clarence Thomas drank heavily, watched porn

[Madeline]

LOL, you're doing exactly what Rush says liberals do all the time. You get all concerned about the "seriousness" of the allegations, rather than look at the actual evidence.

When libs are accused of anything, you could care less about the "seriousness" of the allegations and all you care about is what evidence there is.

This is a big fat "lose". I am all over sexual harrassment like white on rice, no matter who does it.

I am too. When the allegations are proved to be fact. Difference is, I don't get hysterical over 'he said, she said'.

I'm enthusiastic, CG. I said so from my first post to this thread. I own my bias.

 

[Si modo]

.... any 5 year old can spot her as an alcoholic-she decided to leave him when he stopped drinking.

...

Interessant, n'est pas?

active alcoholics do tend to seek out the company of people who drink like they do.

just sayin'

Yup. And when one in a relationship starts recovery and the other doesn't, the relationship rarely survives.

Just sayin', too.

 

[Madeline]

.... any 5 year old can spot her as an alcoholic-she decided to leave him when he stopped drinking.

...

Interessant, n'est pas?

active alcoholics do tend to seek out the company of people who drink like they do.

just sayin'

You might be able to spend half an hour high on coke with a child and they not know. But drunk off your ass, no.

Kids notice the slurred speech, falling down coordination issues and boozy smell. There is no hiding alcoholism whilst drinking from those who spend time with you face to face.

 

[del]

Interessant, n'est pas?

active alcoholics do tend to seek out the company of people who drink like they do.

just sayin'

You might be able to spend half an hour high on coke with a child and they not know. But drunk off your ass, no.

Kids notice the slurred speech, falling down coordination issues and boozy smell.

if you think every alcoholic is a falling down drunk, you know very little about alcoholism.

 

[Si modo]

Interessant, n'est pas?

active alcoholics do tend to seek out the company of people who drink like they do.

just sayin'

You might be able to spend half an hour high on coke with a child and they not know. But drunk off your ass, no.

Kids notice the slurred speech, falling down coordination issues and boozy smell. There is no hiding alcoholism whilst drinking from those who spend time with you face to face.

Do you understand what del just said? Seriously, do you?

 

[Claudette]

Uh huh. So you have nothing, Si?

I thought not.

Lemme see if I can make this any clearer. "Shoot the messenger" does not work on evidence.

Whenever gossip is actually evidence, I'm sure that I will need to recalibrate the thermometer in hell.

You could be right, Si. Mebbe this broad has *nothing* to back up her allegations and this will end up as a "he said she said". If so, I'd agree...we have to deeply discount her statements because she likely has an axe (or two) to grind.

HOWEVER, if she can back up her claims....with evidence...different ballgame. I find it incredible (as in unbelievable, not fucking likely) that she'd speak on air without such evidence, and I hope like hell she has some.

But it is not logical or honest for you to announce that you plan to disregard evidence (tapes, letters, testimony of other witnesses, etc.) because this broad has a bias problem, and doing so makes you look kinda sorta s-t-u-p-i-d.

Thats the rub Maddie. Without proof its just a he said, she said.

Why is she bringing this up now??

Even if it were proveable does anyone seriously think that a sitting judge on the SCOTUS would be removed because he likes porn and was a drinker??

Seriously doubt he would be the first and only Judge belonging to that august body that liked porn and booze.

 

[Madeline]

Clarence Thomas should have the name, BILL CLINTON and been President then, he would be excused and praised for all this..

Now how funny is this FOLKS, the lefties are attacking a BLACK conservative for this stuff.

First Juan Williams, now Thomas.

SEE A PATTERN HERE?

This is not the Crazy Cat Lady Conspiracy Forum And Support Group, Stephanie.

 

[Stephanie]

Clarence Thomas should have the name, BILL CLINTON and been President then, he would be excused and praised for all this..

Now how funny is this FOLKS, the lefties are attacking a BLACK conservative for this stuff.

First Juan Williams, now Thomas.

SEE A PATTERN HERE?

This is not the Crazy Cat Lady Conspiracy Forum And Support Group, Stephanie.

Oh Madie, take a deep breath.

 

[Si modo]

Clarence Thomas should have the name, BILL CLINTON and been President then, he would be excused and praised for all this..

Now how funny is this FOLKS, the lefties are attacking a BLACK conservative for this stuff.

First Juan Williams, now Thomas.

SEE A PATTERN HERE?

This is not the Crazy Cat Lady Conspiracy Forum And Support Group, Stephanie.

Now there is some funny unintended irony.

 

[The Rabbi]

(CNN) -- Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was a binge drinker who had a pornography habit or fetish in the 1980s, then changed radically when he stopped drinking alcohol, his former girlfriend told CNN on Monday.

Lillian McEwen, who dated Thomas for several years before he was nominated to the Supreme Court in 1991, provided CNN's "Larry King Live" program with a harsh depiction of Thomas. She said when they first met, he might have been a "raving alcoholic" who used pornography to help fulfill sexual fantasies, but then gave up drinking and transformed into an angry, obsessive man who bullied his son.

Former girlfriend says Clarence Thomas was a binge drinker, porn user - CNN.com

I thought liberals were in favor of letting people do what they want? Apparently they are only in favor of letting liberals do what liberals want.

 

[Madeline]

and being an alcoholic speaks to character how, exactly? enlighten me, if you please.

i think you overestimate the power of a sitting justice and the likelihood that thomas gives a rat's ass what this woman says by orders of magnitude.

You dun think a severe drug abuse history bears on fitness for a seat on our highest court?

Color me *stupified* here.

As for Thomas bitchslapping this broad....if nothing happens, it is because he knows she is telling the TRUTH.

i think an *alleged* history of alcoholism combined with decades of recovery absolutely bears on fitness for a seat on the court. just not the way you seem to.

it' interesting that you seem to think that addiction is some kind of moral issue, and that you deliberately choose to substitute the word *drug* for *alcohol*. i'll grant that alcohol is a drug, but there have been no allegations that i'm aware of that thomas abused *drugs* in the commonly accepted sense of the word.

Del, the expression "sober as a judge" exists for a reason. If alcoholism ain't a character issue, then it's a fitness one. Mebbe if Thomas "had been in recovery for decades" when he was appointed, I'd agree. But if the ex-gfs allegations are true, he'd quit drinking just months before.

Not enough time, IMO.

 

[Madeline]

active alcoholics do tend to seek out the company of people who drink like they do.

just sayin'

You might be able to spend half an hour high on coke with a child and they not know. But drunk off your ass, no.

Kids notice the slurred speech, falling down coordination issues and boozy smell.

if you think every alcoholic is a falling down drunk, you know very little about alcoholism.

Every severe alcoholic is a falling down drunk. Usually daily.

 

[Stephanie]

Sober as a Judge?

wtf?

Too bad you all don't require all that for your Congresscritters and Presidents.

 

[Si modo]

You might be able to spend half an hour high on coke with a child and they not know. But drunk off your ass, no.

Kids notice the slurred speech, falling down coordination issues and boozy smell.

if you think every alcoholic is a falling down drunk, you know very little about alcoholism.

Every severe alcoholic is a falling down drunk. Usually daily.

You know little about alcoholism, then.

 

[Madeline]

Whenever gossip is actually evidence, I'm sure that I will need to recalibrate the thermometer in hell.

You could be right, Si. Mebbe this broad has *nothing* to back up her allegations and this will end up as a "he said she said". If so, I'd agree...we have to deeply discount her statements because she likely has an axe (or two) to grind.

HOWEVER, if she can back up her claims....with evidence...different ballgame. I find it incredible (as in unbelievable, not fucking likely) that she'd speak on air without such evidence, and I hope like hell she has some.

But it is not logical or honest for you to announce that you plan to disregard evidence (tapes, letters, testimony of other witnesses, etc.) because this broad has a bias problem, and doing so makes you look kinda sorta s-t-u-p-i-d.

Thats the rub Maddie. Without proof its just a he said, she said.

Why is she bringing this up now??

Even if it were proveable does anyone seriously think that a sitting judge on the SCOTUS would be removed because he likes porn and was a drinker??

Seriously doubt he would be the first and only Judge belonging to that august body that liked porn and booze.

Well now, this is a fascinating question IMO. We have never impeached a Justice in this country. There's some interest in trying to remove Roberts for the Citizens United decision, but if his opinion is even marginally defensible on the law, personally I dun think it can be done.

Thomas is a different kettle of fish. Lying under oath during his confirmation hearings, past illegal acts, questionable fitness....he might could be vulnerable.

Still, it is most likely no more than whistling in the dark. Fun to think about, but unlikely to ever happen.

 

[The Rabbi]

You could be right, Si. Mebbe this broad has *nothing* to back up her allegations and this will end up as a "he said she said". If so, I'd agree...we have to deeply discount her statements because she likely has an axe (or two) to grind.

HOWEVER, if she can back up her claims....with evidence...different ballgame. I find it incredible (as in unbelievable, not fucking likely) that she'd speak on air without such evidence, and I hope like hell she has some.

But it is not logical or honest for you to announce that you plan to disregard evidence (tapes, letters, testimony of other witnesses, etc.) because this broad has a bias problem, and doing so makes you look kinda sorta s-t-u-p-i-d.

Thats the rub Maddie. Without proof its just a he said, she said.

Why is she bringing this up now??

Even if it were proveable does anyone seriously think that a sitting judge on the SCOTUS would be removed because he likes porn and was a drinker??

Seriously doubt he would be the first and only Judge belonging to that august body that liked porn and booze.

Well now, this is a fascinating question IMO. We have never impeached a Justice in this country. There's some interest in trying to remove Roberts for the Citizens United decision, but if his opinion is even marginally defensible on the law, personally I dun think it can be done.

Thomas is a different kettle of fish. Lying under oath during his confirmation hearings, past illegal acts, questionable fitness....he might could be vulnerable.

Still, it is most likely no more than whistling in the dark. Fun to think about, but unlikely to ever happen.

Sotomayor swore during confirmation there was an individual right to own guns. And then in McDonald said there wasn't.
There are absolutely no, zero, grounds to impeach Thomas. The whole thread is worthless. Thomas will serve for life and unless someone has evidence that he is taking bribes or embezzling he will stay there.

 

[Madeline]

if you think every alcoholic is a falling down drunk, you know very little about alcoholism.

Every severe alcoholic is a falling down drunk. Usually daily.

You know little about alcoholism, then.

You cannot tell when someone is drunk? Give me a break. I have seen just about every flavor of alcoholism known to mankind, up close and personal...and if it is severe and active, it does not take a trained eye to spot.

More bullshittery from the cowardly cons who cannot condemn craven crap from other cons.

 

[Madeline]

Thats the rub Maddie. Without proof its just a he said, she said.

Why is she bringing this up now??

Even if it were proveable does anyone seriously think that a sitting judge on the SCOTUS would be removed because he likes porn and was a drinker??

Seriously doubt he would be the first and only Judge belonging to that august body that liked porn and booze.

Well now, this is a fascinating question IMO. We have never impeached a Justice in this country. There's some interest in trying to remove Roberts for the Citizens United decision, but if his opinion is even marginally defensible on the law, personally I dun think it can be done.

Thomas is a different kettle of fish. Lying under oath during his confirmation hearings, past illegal acts, questionable fitness....he might could be vulnerable.

Still, it is most likely no more than whistling in the dark. Fun to think about, but unlikely to ever happen.

Sotomayor swore during confirmation there was an individual right to own guns. And then in McDonald said there wasn't.
There are absolutely no, zero, grounds to impeach Thomas. The whole thread is worthless. Thomas will serve for life and unless someone has evidence that he is taking bribes or embezzling he will stay there.

You are almost certainly right, The Rabbi. My guess is, even if he blatantly, provably lied under oath during confirmation, this will go nowhere.

You can thank Si and CG and the others in the who-cares crowd for that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thomas apparently was a sick man over those obssessions. Those who dismiss fact as gossip better check their critical thinking bone. Give him credit he did stop. Understand the people talking about him may have ulterior motives.

Facts are inconvenient truth.

 

[Si modo]

Every severe alcoholic is a falling down drunk. Usually daily.

You know little about alcoholism, then.

You cannot tell when someone is drunk? ....

Well, that's not quite what I said. But, I'm pretty sure most are used to your lack of reading comprehension by now.

....


More bullshittery from the cowardly cons who cannot condemn craven crap from other cons.

No matter how badly you want it, I condemn no one based on gossip.