bripat9643
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So question, do you, or have you seen that evidence? Just curious what it is you working off of.Why do you call those who disagree with you "deniers".First, I am not sure I believe they don't. I think I've stated that.
Second, I asked him to take his debate to a venue where just his facts and his single opponents facts could be evaluated. That way we could see what both sides have to present and what information they feel is the most meaningful. I grow tired of having certain organizations held up as "the standard". Or if your doctor tells you he needs to cut off your balls do you just march in and have it done without really trying to understand why (but he is the expert....what could you possibly know). It's a legitimate suggestion.
Third, your request is silly. If you had said, prove humans have inconsequential impact on climate or consequential impact, then the question would have turned to a matter of metrics (which is probably where this whole disagreement resides anyway). After all some "deniers" would claim that volcanos have more impact than humans. And "alarmists" would argue that "rising ocean levels are a real concern. What is impact and why be concerned.
Lastly, is there a reason he shouldn't go there. Or do we continue with the proliferation of meaningless threads (which the OP starts) which all end with the same name calling, appeal to authority riddled, selective data plastered...goop ?
You criticism is spot on, it is a queston of metrics. That said, my question was loaded for emphasis, in fact some deniers are simply kooks who don't have any specialized knowledge. As for the alarmists, their concern isn't based on a fallacy but on data such as this:
NOAA s Ten Signs of a Warming World Temperature of the Lower Atmosphere
Would you call me a "denier" if I disagreed with the theory that the moon is made of cheese?
Of course you wouldn't. You and your ilk are merely resorting to a logical fallacy because you have no reasonable and logical argument to back up your fear-mongering claims that humans are causing catastrophic global warming via CO2 emissions.
I recall comparing you to CrusaderFrank, the archetype of the Idiot-Gram, and you may or may not be a denier. A denier believes little or no human activity has any effect on the climate, or even if some change is human related the earth is able to repair it self miraculously.
Remember when leaded gas, acid rain, burning rivers and clear cutting forests were a cause for "alarmists"?
Have I seen the evidence of burning rivers?
Have I seen the evidence of leaded gas?
Photo s of Smog LA Basin - Google Search
Love Canal
10 Superfund sites Love Canal New York MNN - Mother Nature Network
Clear cutting, not only mudslides but less trees to eat CO2
Photos of mudslides do to clear cutting of forests - Google Search
He's referring to the climate, numskull.