CO2 level highest in 23 million years

[CrusaderFrank]

You list what you deem is a problem? But what is your solution?

$78,000,000,000,000 for Green New Deal

 

[JohnDB]

Many of these "green" technologies require aluminum...but aluminum processing is one of the highest GHG producing industries in existence...

But so is vaccine production...

So is wine, beer, and marijuana...

Some sort of honesty might be called for somewhere.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Many of these "green" technologies require aluminum...but aluminum processing is one of the highest GHG producing industries in existence...

But so is vaccine production...

So is wine, beer, and marijuana...

Some sort of honesty might be called for somewhere.

Aluminum is at a 10 yr high

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Many of these "green" technologies require aluminum...but aluminum processing is one of the highest GHG producing industries in existence...

But so is vaccine production...

So is wine, beer, and marijuana...

Some sort of honesty might be called for somewhere.

The Fanatics at the AGW Cult are incapable of honesty

“A reliable way to make people believe in falsehoods is frequent repetition, because familiarity is not easily distinguished from truth. Authoritarian institutions and marketers (and the AGW Cult -CF Addition) have always known this fact.” ― Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow​

 

[Old Rocks]

Many of these "green" technologies require aluminum...but aluminum processing is one of the highest GHG producing industries in existence...

But so is vaccine production...

So is wine, beer, and marijuana...

Some sort of honesty might be called for somewhere.

Only because of using coal to generate the electricity for processing aluminum. The electricity doesn't care whether it is produced by coal, wind, or solar. It will still produce electricity. And wind and solar both produce electricity at a lower cost than coal. So much so that some steel mills are now using solar;

Opinion | The Steel Mill That Helped Build the American West Goes Green (Published 2019)

Wind and solar power will replace coal at a Colorado furnace.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Old Rocks]

The Fanatics at the AGW Cult are incapable of honesty

“A reliable way to make people believe in falsehoods is frequent repetition, because familiarity is not easily distinguished from truth. Authoritarian institutions and marketers (and the AGW Cult -CF Addition) have always known this fact.” ― Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow​

Now Frankie Boi, what the fuck would you, a kisser of the orange ass, know about honesty? And the article is from a peer reviewed journal, not from a dumb ass like Carlson or Hannity.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And we are still here....

Well that settles it! Stupid scientists and their useless, fancy book learnin'.

 

[JohnDB]

Only because of using coal to generate the electricity for processing aluminum. The electricity doesn't care whether it is produced by coal, wind, or solar. It will still produce electricity. And wind and solar both produce electricity at a lower cost than coal. So much so that some steel mills are now using solar;

Opinion | The Steel Mill That Helped Build the American West Goes Green (Published 2019)

Wind and solar power will replace coal at a Colorado furnace.

www.nytimes.com

It's not the electricity... although it is significant amount needed.

It's the perfluorocarbons and hydrogen fluoride as gases created that last a really long time in the atmosphere...these aren't CO² that are absorbed by trees and plant life....these gasses kill vegetation. It's anything but a green metal but all green technologies require it.

 

[Rambunctious]

Well that settles it! Stupid scientists and their useless, fancy book learnin'.

Don't come here and complain about your professors...go back to your worthless school and complain....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Don't come here and complain about your professors...go back to your worthless school and complain....

Oh look, he's not even smart enough to know when he is being mocked...

 

[ding]

Oh look, he's not even smart enough to know when he is being mocked...

Would that be the scientists who are telling us the science is settled?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Would that be the scientists who are telling us the science is settled?

No idea who you are talking about.

 

[justoffal]

And we are seeing over a million acres of that luxurious plant life glowing at night in California. And dozens more fires in the Western States. Lots of luxurious plant life lying around on the East Coast right now. Wonderful, isn't it.

I hate I hate to burst your bubble but large-scale fires are an ancient tradition in the forested areas of the Earth.

 

[ding]

No idea who you are talking about.

You know... the ones who are telling us that it's settled. That if we don't act now it will be too late.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You know... the ones who are telling us that it's settled.

Hmm, no, I don't. Sorry.

But, as always, you are invited to publish your research.

 

[JohnDB]

I hate I hate to burst your bubble but large-scale fires are an ancient tradition in the forested areas of the Earth.

Maybe we should find the state of California for their CO² emissions from the forest fires that result from not managing their forests appropriately.

 

[frigidweirdo]

According to this study, it appears that the present CO2 level is the highest it has been since the Miocene.

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RESEARCH ARTICLE| MAY 29, 2020

A 23 m.y. record of low atmospheric CO2​

Ying Cui;

Brian A. Schubert;

A. Hope Jahren

Geology (2020) 48 (9): 888–892.
A 23 m.y. record of low atmospheric CO2 | Geology | GeoScienceWorld
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Abstract​

Current atmospheric CO2 concentration is known to be higher than it has been during the past ∼800 k.y. of Earth history, based on direct measurement of CO2 within ice cores. A comparison to the more ancient past is complicated by a deficit of CO2 proxies that may be applied across very long spans of geologic time. Here, we present a new CO2 record across the past 23 m.y. of Earth history based on the δ13C value of terrestrial C3 plant remains, using a method applicable to the entire ∼400 m.y. history of C3 photosynthesis on land. Across the past 23 m.y., CO2 likely ranged between ∼230 ppmv and 350 ppmv (68% confidence interval: ∼170–540 ppm). CO2 was found to be highest during the early and middle Miocene and likely below present-day levels during the middle Pliocene (84th percentile: ∼400 ppmv). These data suggest present-day CO2 (412 ppmv) exceeds the highest levels that Earth experienced at least since the Miocene, further highlighting the present-day disruption of long-established CO2 trends within Earth’s atmosphere.

A 23 m.y. record of low atmospheric CO2 | Geology | GeoScienceWorld

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But NOT the highest temperatures. Why not?

Not even the highest temperatures in the last 400,000 years.

 

[ding]

Hmm, no, I don't. Sorry.

But, as always, you are invited to publish your research.

Then you don't believe it's settled and shouldn't object to people who don't accept CO2 as driving earth's climate.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Then you don't believe it's settled and shouldn't object to people who don't accept CO2 as driving earth's climate.

Ding, nobody can stop you, when you are in that little bitchy mode where you invent your little strawmen dollies. Publish your research. All are invited. No, your ignorant ass shouting into the void on a message board does not challenge the consensus.

 

[ding]

Ding, nobody can stop you, when you are in that little bitchy mode where you invent your little strawmen dollies. Publish your research. All are invited. No, your ignorant ass shouting into the void on a message board does not challenge the consensus.

I'd rather send you an invite for a bull ring discussion. It'll be fun.