"Common Sense" Gun Control

[Skull Pilot]

I don't care if you own a weapon, 10 or a 100 of them. I care about a system that makes it too easy for criminals to get their hands on weapons, including some very deadly ones. I also care about the stupidity of right-wingers and organizations, like the NRA who think they can get by without change. They aren't representing the interest of the American people and they need to get to the table and start negotiating for some changes. It may be too late now, because we have one state after another making their own laws.

Why do you right-wingers keep acting like someone wants to take your gun?

Again since you can't seem to understand

I do not now nor have i ever belonged to the NRA so I don't give a flying backwards fuck what the NRA does.

And you don't want to stop criminals from getting weapons you want to make it harder or nearly impossible for law abiding people to get weapons

And quite frankly you have no authority to speak for all Americans.

I;ll tell you what I know.

I know that there are violent people out there who won't think twice about hurting me or my wife.

I know that you cannot stop those people from doing harm even though you think you can.

I know that the government cannot protect me from violent people even though they say they will.

I know that the only person who is going to protect me and my wife in the middle of the night in case of a break in is me.

So until I know differently I will support gun ownership 100%

That's bullshit and paranoid bullshit at that. You don't know a damn thing and obviously can't learn.

really

look up the case . of the Petit family from CT

AND then tell me any of what I know is wrong

 

[Tech_Esq]

I don't care if you own a weapon, 10 or a 100 of them. I care about a system that makes it too easy for criminals to get their hands on weapons, including some very deadly ones. I also care about the stupidity of right-wingers and organizations, like the NRA who think they can get by without change. They aren't representing the interest of the American people and they need to get to the table and start negotiating for some changes. It may be too late now, because we have one state after another making their own laws.

It's not the system that makes it easy for criminals to get guns, its the whole being a criminal part. It make is much easier when you have no compunction about stealing someone else's gun or buying one on the black market. Criminals probably don't submit themselves to a lot of criminal background checks, because....uhh...they'd fail them, doncha know. So, the "system" of selling guns is pretty good. There can be improvements here and there, but the basic system is pretty good. It prevents criminals from buying guns at the gun store, just like we want it to.

Now, if you were interested in solving the crime problem that would help a lot. In Virginia and in Florida and few other states where common sense isn't as scarce as hen's teeth, we have a system they says if you are in possession of a gun and commit a crime, you just got a mandatory 10 years added on to your sentence. If you pull it out while the crime is committed, you just got 20 years. If you fire it, you got life in prison. We also have a little thing called "Truth in sentencing." That means you will do at least 85% of your sentence no matter how good you are while you're there. That means that people that use guns while committing crimes in this state go to jail forever. Now, if every state had those laws, think how much safer we'd all be.

By the way, there are a lot of lefties in the NRA. I saw one at the gun show a couple of weeks ago counter demonstrating against Code Pink. He had a sign saying he was a San Francisco liberal assault rifle owner and NRA supporter. So, take your bias elsewhere. You should be more concerned with solving the actual problem than trying to find ways to subvert the Constitution.

Those two states may be the ones you are familiar with but I think every state has similar laws for sentencing.

Link me

Criminals get other people to buy for them and it isn't like they leave guns all over the place.

That's against the law already. What is it you are trying to say?

Piss on your NRA rhetoric!

Piss on your anti-Liberty rhetoric fascist. History has shown there is only one reason for disarming the populace.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Dubya didnt ever think to yourself: I didnt know what I was talking about on stabbings, maybe I don't know everything ?

 

[Dubya]

You can find a list of those executive orders and prove every one of Obama's edicts are focused on the law abiding, so do it!

Does a pretty good job. You wont read it though.

Obama?s 23 Executive Orders on Gun Control « Just The Facts, Ma'am

I have read it through once. Let's start with the first one:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
Administrative.
The only relevant question here is, do we STILL have a problem with federal agencies sharing information? Still, I’d rather NOT see them share information relating to ownership of firearms, unless there is a solid reason similar to the “probable cause” required to get a search warrant.
Effect on mass shootings, past or future: none.

Source: Obama?s 23 Executive Orders on Gun Control « Just The Facts, Ma'am

Is that focused on the law abiding person? No!

Now find one that is!

 

[Tech_Esq]

Do you have a like proving that?

That New York legislation let people keep their assault weapons.

I assume asking if I have a "like" is your in articulate way of asking for link. I don't normally go about Googling things for people, but....



Cuomo says Confiscation of guns is an option

Iowa lawmaker calls for retroactive gun ban, confiscation of semi-automatic weapons

Another anti-Liberty a-hole

There, don't doubt me again.

Can you read? He was asked a question and gave every possibility.

Confiscation is not a possibility under the Constitution.

You asked why we act like people are trying to take our guns, I said he talked about confiscation. He said it, you admit he said it. That would make me right. Wouldn't it Anti-Liberty Dub?

 

[Dubya]

More people die from stabbing every year than rifles.

More people where and post links to prove what you say! I did post a recent chart and I didn't notice large amounts of stabbings.

FBI Homicide Stats

FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

So there were 1,694 homicides by knives or cutting instruments and 8,583 by firearms in 2011. I doubt if many are from an axe.

 

[OODA_Loop]

More people where and post links to prove what you say! I did post a recent chart and I didn't notice large amounts of stabbings.

FBI Homicide Stats

FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

So there were 1,694 homicides by knives or cutting instruments and 8,583 by firearms in 2011. I doubt if many are from an axe.

I have and am speaking to rifles which you want to ban. What are those numbers ?

 

[Dubya]

More people die from stabbing every year than rifles.

More people where and post links to prove what you say! I did post a recent chart and I didn't notice large amounts of stabbings.

Are you always this useless when it comes to using the Internet? Do people always have to keep you informed?

Geez!!

FBI report on homicides for the last 5 years on a silver platter

Ok, now you're looking really bad here, you need to do something to turn it around. I have confidence in you. Say something intelligent now. Come on, I know you can do it!

I've been looking shit up all day and why should I look up stuff to prove your case.

What's with the false victory, when there were 5 times more homicides by firearms than with knives or cutting instruments in 2011?

FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

 

[9thIDdoc]

 

[OODA_Loop]

I've been looking shit up all day and why should I look up stuff to prove your case.

Because you challenged the veracity of my claim with a LINK call out ?

I gave the link.

The numbers support what I say.

Not you.

 

[Tech_Esq]

More people where and post links to prove what you say! I did post a recent chart and I didn't notice large amounts of stabbings.

FBI Homicide Stats

FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

So there were 1,694 homicides by knives or cutting instruments and 8,583 by firearms in 2011. I doubt if many are from an axe.

Geez Anti-Liberty, I had such hopes for you. I thought you could actually say something smart. Instead, you bollocks up the whole thing.

The statement was about rifles. You know those scary "Military Style Assault Rifles" that make you wet your pants. (I've figured out the code words Military style = makes me wet my pants) and (assault rifle = scary looking gun to me)

In point of fact assault rifles are full auto or selectable burst. But i digress.

So, this issue is about banning scary guns that make you wet your pants Anti-Liberty, so we're feeding you facts, as it it even matters to you, about the scary guns. Only 323 murders in 2011 were committed by rifle which is a larger group than just the ones that make you wet your pants. So, the number ( i know i have to break this down for you) of murders done with the scary guns was less than the total number done with "All Rifles."

Starting to see the picture now.....no of course not, what was I thinking. So, the total number of murders done by knife was 400% higher than by all the scary guns in the country. That means that banning assault weapons to bring down murders is like mandating seat belts in the trunk. It's not really going to fix the problem of people dying in car crashes.

 

[Tech_Esq]

More people where and post links to prove what you say! I did post a recent chart and I didn't notice large amounts of stabbings.

Are you always this useless when it comes to using the Internet? Do people always have to keep you informed?

Geez!!

FBI report on homicides for the last 5 years on a silver platter

Ok, now you're looking really bad here, you need to do something to turn it around. I have confidence in you. Say something intelligent now. Come on, I know you can do it!

I've been looking shit up all day and why should I look up stuff to prove your case.

What's with the false victory, when there were 5 times more homicides by firearms than with knives or cutting instruments in 2011?

FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

I'm really sorry you have a reading issue. How about you take a glance up and see if you can't figure out why you got pwnd. If you're too thick to figure it out, perhaps one of these nice people can explain it to you.

 

[Dubya]

Again since you can't seem to understand

I do not now nor have i ever belonged to the NRA so I don't give a flying backwards fuck what the NRA does.

And you don't want to stop criminals from getting weapons you want to make it harder or nearly impossible for law abiding people to get weapons

And quite frankly you have no authority to speak for all Americans.

I;ll tell you what I know.

I know that there are violent people out there who won't think twice about hurting me or my wife.

I know that you cannot stop those people from doing harm even though you think you can.

I know that the government cannot protect me from violent people even though they say they will.

I know that the only person who is going to protect me and my wife in the middle of the night in case of a break in is me.

So until I know differently I will support gun ownership 100%

That's bullshit and paranoid bullshit at that. You don't know a damn thing and obviously can't learn.

really

look up the case . of the Petit family from CT

AND then tell me any of what I know is wrong

I don't have to look up some horror story and there are plenty. You obviously live in fear and I don't. Do you worry that much about a car accident?

Escort your wife when she's out, it's a lot harder to take down two people than one, even if one is a woman. If you can afford it, get her some martial arts training and/or pepper spray. Try to get that straightened out so she can get a gun, but it's hard for a woman to get to a gun in her purse, when she's in trouble.

 

[OODA_Loop]

You obviously live in fear and I don't. Do you worry that much about a car accident?

I drive an assault SUV too.

 

[Koios]

You obviously live in fear and I don't. Do you worry that much about a car accident?

I drive an assault SUV too.

And your dick seems so much bigger! 3, maybe even 4 inches, when you pull on it real hard.

 

[OODA_Loop]

, but it's hard for a woman to get to a gun in her purse, when she's in trouble.

Not if their purse is made for concealed carry.

Anything else we can expect you to be totally wrong on ?

 

[Dubya]

It's not the system that makes it easy for criminals to get guns, its the whole being a criminal part. It make is much easier when you have no compunction about stealing someone else's gun or buying one on the black market. Criminals probably don't submit themselves to a lot of criminal background checks, because....uhh...they'd fail them, doncha know. So, the "system" of selling guns is pretty good. There can be improvements here and there, but the basic system is pretty good. It prevents criminals from buying guns at the gun store, just like we want it to.

Now, if you were interested in solving the crime problem that would help a lot. In Virginia and in Florida and few other states where common sense isn't as scarce as hen's teeth, we have a system they says if you are in possession of a gun and commit a crime, you just got a mandatory 10 years added on to your sentence. If you pull it out while the crime is committed, you just got 20 years. If you fire it, you got life in prison. We also have a little thing called "Truth in sentencing." That means you will do at least 85% of your sentence no matter how good you are while you're there. That means that people that use guns while committing crimes in this state go to jail forever. Now, if every state had those laws, think how much safer we'd all be.

By the way, there are a lot of lefties in the NRA. I saw one at the gun show a couple of weeks ago counter demonstrating against Code Pink. He had a sign saying he was a San Francisco liberal assault rifle owner and NRA supporter. So, take your bias elsewhere. You should be more concerned with solving the actual problem than trying to find ways to subvert the Constitution.

Those two states may be the ones you are familiar with but I think every state has similar laws for sentencing.

Link me

Criminals get other people to buy for them and it isn't like they leave guns all over the place.

That's against the law already. What is it you are trying to say?

Piss on your NRA rhetoric!

Piss on your anti-Liberty rhetoric fascist. History has shown there is only one reason for disarming the populace.

Link you to every sentencing guideline in the country? Find it yourself! We have the same guidelines here.

It wouldn't make a difference if the whole populace was disarmed, the Armed Forces aren't going to allow a dictator.

The largest threat of a home invasion can be removed with a dog, because a dog will alert you. I just pet my English Mastiff and if an invader came in this house, she eat their ass.

Your concept of liberty is taking people's lives and there is nothing patriotic about that.

 

[OODA_Loop]

You obviously live in fear and I don't. Do you worry that much about a car accident?

I drive an assault SUV too.

And your dick seems so much bigger! 3, maybe even 4 inches, when you pull on it real hard.

Hell yeah it does.

My beanbag too.

 

[Dubya]

Dubya didnt ever think to yourself: I didnt know what I was talking about on stabbings, maybe I don't know everything ?

There is 5 times more homicides by firearms than knives and cutting instruments in 2011.

Do you bother to read?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Dubya didnt ever think to yourself: I didnt know what I was talking about on stabbings, maybe I don't know everything ?

There is 5 times more homicides by firearms than knives and cutting instruments in 2011.

Do you bother to read?

So you want to ban all firearms ?