SobieskiSavedEurope
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This goes to ideology if nazism/fascism and communism.
Why is it worse to be a Western Ukrainian "Nazi" rather than an Eastern Ukrainian "Soviet"?
Didn't Soviets kill more than the Nazis?
Nazism is based on a very disgusting ideas.
Communism is based on right ideas.
Nazism is impossible without murder and other crimes.
Crimes of communists are crimes of people who got power in early USSR. The same as crimes of inquisition do not prove that Christianity is evil.
Do you know the main idea of communism? It is ideal society. And humanity will come to it.
But in 20 century or even now it is too early for us to try to create communist way of living.
But speaking about eastern Ukrainians they are not "soviet" as you called them. They simply disagree to European movement of their country. They prefer better relations with Russia. Or Russia is supposed to be soviet now?
Fascist Italy didn't really murder for about 1 decade, Nazi Germany didn't really murder for about half a decade.... While all Communist regimes murdered right away.
Between 1917 - 1922 as many as 20 million Russians were killed by the Bolsheviks between the Russian Civil War, and the Volga Famine they bought on.
That means Soviets may have immediately killed as much as Nazis did in an extended period of over 1 decade.
One could just as easily say that Egalitarian ideals are disgusting.... for one Communism has a horrible track record when it comes to economic growth, unlike Fascism which actually has the best track record of economic growth.
But, Egalitarianism allows idiocy, and degeneracy to spread by appeasing it.
Not that I support how Nazis did it.... But I do support Positive Eugenics.
"Fascist Italy didn't really murder for about 1 decade, Nazi Germany didn't really murder for about half a decade.... While all Communist regimes murdered right away."
Not sure if you are a moron or propagandist Bubs? Hint there was EVOLUTION of ALL the mentioned groups!
Example, Italy's fascists started to the left and wanted "socialism", it took about 5 years before they veered far right, and then started the violence
The RUSSIANS (ok, Bolsheviks), did basically the same thing, and no murder didn't start right away. AUTHORITARIAN GOV'T WAS THE PROBLEM HOWEVER!
Funny you should mention Italy
Looks familar to me.
Oh please...Fascist Italy killed only hundreds of thousands in Ethiopia, or Albania etc.
Capitalist Churchill killed 25,000 civilians in Dresden, and a famine under his rule killed 3 million in India.
The Capitalist U.S.A has killed 20 - 30 million since WW2, by some estimates.
Mussolini was really a pip squeak compared to some Capitalists of the 20th century.