Cons crap on Cali . Still better than hellhole red states.

[flacaltenn]

And when you malign the South with all the stereotyping and vile cousin-fucking bootlegging, inbred racist crap, you don't even REALIZE that your maligning 30 or 40% of the Southern population that have been DEMOCRATS since their Great Great GrandPappies were in the KKK. Which is the suckeist voter outreach for your base down here. Not only do you constantly maligned YOUR OWN PEOPLE with these wild inaccurate stereotypes, but you hunted down all their FEDERAL DEM officials who were Blue Dogs and made them fucking extinct.

Dem party are all geniuses. AND they ARE the party of voter disenfranchisement. Like this thread is doing to 35 to 40% of folks in South who are STUPID ENOUGH to remain Dem party supporters. Slicing and Dicing, Scheming and Dreaming -- that what you morons do best.

 

[flacaltenn]

I want any of you "Cali is nivana and not crazy" shitheads who constantly malign the entire South to defend just ONE of their diabolical brain farts to turn Cali into a one party UNDemocratic state.

Who was on the ballot for Senate seat in Cali in 2016? I doubt the 3 jerks I replied to above even know. It was 2 DEMOCRAT choices. NO OTHER CANDIDATE WAS ALLOWED on the Gen Election ballot. AGAIN -- the DEMS are the party of voter disenfranchisement. They passed the "top 2 primary law" which only allowed the top 2 vote getters in the primaries to be on the Gen election ballot.

Now before you idiots say "that's what the people wanted" and display your ignorance of how all things work, ponder this scenario.

You had 12 or 14 Repub choices running active races for Prez that year. Because that party operates from the principle of giving their constituents VALID CHOICES in the primaries. How many viable candidates did the Dems offer you? And don't count Bernie because he got screwed. O'Malley? What would have happened in a TOP 2 national primary throwing ONE already coronated meglo power whore and a principled but hopelessly screwed Socialist ideologue against 12 Repubs? (Disclaimer -- Federal law prohibits anything like top 2 system for president and respects the party nominating process -- just an example)

So if in a Cali primary the Repubs have 4 or 5 candidates running. Because they don't really do the backroom purging. The Dems only 2. You split the Repub constituency 5 ways and you lose it all. The DEMS just arrange to prune the field in the backroom and offer less choice. To the DEMS it's about obtaining and maintaining power. And that incentive for governing is what is killing Cali. Another reason I left. I worked writing papers for the Lib Party to DEFEAT that "Top 2" ballot initiative twice. After I left -- they passed it.

Defend that will you? A system that is DESIGNED for a party that offers voters a single party and restricted choices in a primary election. .

I'm waiting....

 

[william the wie]

I want any of you "Cali is nivana and not crazy" shitheads who constantly malign the entire South to defend just ONE of their diabolical brain farts to turn Cali into a one party UNDemocratic state.

Who was on the ballot for Senate seat in Cali in 2016? I doubt the 3 jerks I replied to above even know. It was 2 DEMOCRAT choices. NO OTHER CANDIDATE WAS ALLOWED on the Gen Election ballot. AGAIN -- the DEMS are the party of voter disenfranchisement. They passed the "top 2 primary law" which only allowed the top 2 vote getters in the primaries to be on the Gen election ballot.

Now before you idiots say "that's what the people wanted" and display your ignorance of how all things work, ponder this scenario.

You had 12 or 14 Repub choices running active races for Prez that year. Because that party operates from the principle of giving their constituents VALID CHOICES in the primaries. How many viable candidates did the Dems offer you? And don't count Bernie because he got screwed. O'Malley? What would have happened in a TOP 2 national primary throwing ONE already coronated meglo power whore and a principled but hopelessly screwed Socialist ideologue against 12 Repubs? (Disclaimer -- Federal law prohibits anything like top 2 system for president and respects the party nominating process -- just an example)

So if in a Cali primary the Repubs have 4 or 5 candidates running. Because they don't really do the backroom purging. The Dems only 2. You split the Repub constituency 5 ways and you lose it all. The DEMS just arrange to prune the field in the backroom and offer less choice. To the DEMS it's about obtaining and maintaining power. And that incentive for governing is what is killing Cali. Another reason I left. I worked writing papers for the Lib Party to DEFEAT that "Top 2" ballot initiative twice. After I left -- they passed it.

Defend that will you? A system that is DESIGNED for a party that offers voters a single party and restricted choices in a primary election. .

I'm waiting....

I want any of you "Cali is nivana and not crazy" shitheads who constantly malign the entire South to defend just ONE of their diabolical brain farts to turn Cali into a one party UNDemocratic state.

Who was on the ballot for Senate seat in Cali in 2016? I doubt the 3 jerks I replied to above even know. It was 2 DEMOCRAT choices. NO OTHER CANDIDATE WAS ALLOWED on the Gen Election ballot. AGAIN -- the DEMS are the party of voter disenfranchisement. They passed the "top 2 primary law" which only allowed the top 2 vote getters in the primaries to be on the Gen election ballot.

Now before you idiots say "that's what the people wanted" and display your ignorance of how all things work, ponder this scenario.

You had 12 or 14 Repub choices running active races for Prez that year. Because that party operates from the principle of giving their constituents VALID CHOICES in the primaries. How many viable candidates did the Dems offer you? And don't count Bernie because he got screwed. O'Malley? What would have happened in a TOP 2 national primary throwing ONE already coronated meglo power whore and a principled but hopelessly screwed Socialist ideologue against 12 Repubs? (Disclaimer -- Federal law prohibits anything like top 2 system for president and respects the party nominating process -- just an example)

So if in a Cali primary the Repubs have 4 or 5 candidates running. Because they don't really do the backroom purging. The Dems only 2. You split the Repub constituency 5 ways and you lose it all. The DEMS just arrange to prune the field in the backroom and offer less choice. To the DEMS it's about obtaining and maintaining power. And that incentive for governing is what is killing Cali. Another reason I left. I worked writing papers for the Lib Party to DEFEAT that "Top 2" ballot initiative twice. After I left -- they passed it.

Defend that will you? A system that is DESIGNED for a party that offers voters a single party and restricted choices in a primary election. .

I'm waiting....

No offense but why smarten up chumps like Timmie? Refugees from the Blue Wall will be much happier in other parts of the Blue Wall and not bring their psychotic ravings into the voting booths of places worth living in.

 

[ColonelAngus]

If California is such a killer place, and run so well,why do they need federal tax dollars?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Every ime I'm overseas , seems the only Americans that can' afford traveling are liberals from California. Never met someone from a red state. Not even their holy land Texas.

I was just in Thailand and met a family from southern Ohio while doing a tour of the Phi Phi Islands.

Conservatives I. Thailand, the capital of prostitution and pedophilia

Is that what you went there for?

 

[NYcarbineer]

If California is such a killer place, and run so well,why do they need federal tax dollars?

California ranks 46th in federal dependency.

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States

 

[iamwhatiseem]

IRONY:
Thread title - "Cons crap on California"

ACTUALLY: City officials in Los Angeles are desperate to find answers in dealing with 50,000 homeless who poop on the streets...city crews have to deal with 1,000's of human waste every single day.

 

[ColonelAngus]

IRONY:
Thread title - "Cons crap on California"

ACTUALLY: City officials in Los Angeles are desperate to find answers in dealing with 50,000 homeless who poop on the streets...city crews have to deal with 1,000's of human waste every single day.

LA county cast 1.5 million more votes for Hillary. It’s a hell of a place.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

IRONY:
Thread title - "Cons crap on California"

ACTUALLY: City officials in Los Angeles are desperate to find answers in dealing with 50,000 homeless who poop on the streets...city crews have to deal with 1,000's of human waste every single day.

LA county cast 1.5 million more votes for Hillary. It’s a hell of a place.

They also spent $1.3 billion, with a B on welfare payouts. ...for illegal residents - ALONE.

This is what a sanctuary city looks like.

 

[flacaltenn]

I want any of you "Cali is nivana and not crazy" shitheads who constantly malign the entire South to defend just ONE of their diabolical brain farts to turn Cali into a one party UNDemocratic state.

Who was on the ballot for Senate seat in Cali in 2016? I doubt the 3 jerks I replied to above even know. It was 2 DEMOCRAT choices. NO OTHER CANDIDATE WAS ALLOWED on the Gen Election ballot. AGAIN -- the DEMS are the party of voter disenfranchisement. They passed the "top 2 primary law" which only allowed the top 2 vote getters in the primaries to be on the Gen election ballot.

Now before you idiots say "that's what the people wanted" and display your ignorance of how all things work, ponder this scenario.

You had 12 or 14 Repub choices running active races for Prez that year. Because that party operates from the principle of giving their constituents VALID CHOICES in the primaries. How many viable candidates did the Dems offer you? And don't count Bernie because he got screwed. O'Malley? What would have happened in a TOP 2 national primary throwing ONE already coronated meglo power whore and a principled but hopelessly screwed Socialist ideologue against 12 Repubs? (Disclaimer -- Federal law prohibits anything like top 2 system for president and respects the party nominating process -- just an example)

So if in a Cali primary the Repubs have 4 or 5 candidates running. Because they don't really do the backroom purging. The Dems only 2. You split the Repub constituency 5 ways and you lose it all. The DEMS just arrange to prune the field in the backroom and offer less choice. To the DEMS it's about obtaining and maintaining power. And that incentive for governing is what is killing Cali. Another reason I left. I worked writing papers for the Lib Party to DEFEAT that "Top 2" ballot initiative twice. After I left -- they passed it.

Defend that will you? A system that is DESIGNED for a party that offers voters a single party and restricted choices in a primary election. .

I'm waiting....

I want any of you "Cali is nivana and not crazy" shitheads who constantly malign the entire South to defend just ONE of their diabolical brain farts to turn Cali into a one party UNDemocratic state.

Who was on the ballot for Senate seat in Cali in 2016? I doubt the 3 jerks I replied to above even know. It was 2 DEMOCRAT choices. NO OTHER CANDIDATE WAS ALLOWED on the Gen Election ballot. AGAIN -- the DEMS are the party of voter disenfranchisement. They passed the "top 2 primary law" which only allowed the top 2 vote getters in the primaries to be on the Gen election ballot.

Now before you idiots say "that's what the people wanted" and display your ignorance of how all things work, ponder this scenario.

You had 12 or 14 Repub choices running active races for Prez that year. Because that party operates from the principle of giving their constituents VALID CHOICES in the primaries. How many viable candidates did the Dems offer you? And don't count Bernie because he got screwed. O'Malley? What would have happened in a TOP 2 national primary throwing ONE already coronated meglo power whore and a principled but hopelessly screwed Socialist ideologue against 12 Repubs? (Disclaimer -- Federal law prohibits anything like top 2 system for president and respects the party nominating process -- just an example)

So if in a Cali primary the Repubs have 4 or 5 candidates running. Because they don't really do the backroom purging. The Dems only 2. You split the Repub constituency 5 ways and you lose it all. The DEMS just arrange to prune the field in the backroom and offer less choice. To the DEMS it's about obtaining and maintaining power. And that incentive for governing is what is killing Cali. Another reason I left. I worked writing papers for the Lib Party to DEFEAT that "Top 2" ballot initiative twice. After I left -- they passed it.

Defend that will you? A system that is DESIGNED for a party that offers voters a single party and restricted choices in a primary election. .

I'm waiting....

No offense but why smarten up chumps like Timmie? Refugees from the Blue Wall will be much happier in other parts of the Blue Wall and not bring their psychotic ravings into the voting booths of places worth living in.

That's my fear as well. We certainly WANT them to think that way and to continue to disparage EVERY Southerner, INCLUDING THEIR constituents in the South. Because we're NOT gonna educate them to the benefits of lower cost of living, lower taxes, balanced govt budgets, and middle class access to quality public education.

We certainly aren't trying to convince to move here with the industries and businesses we've stolen from them. Maybe I said too much already huh?? No doubt -- they'd screw it up...

 

[william the wie]

You most certainly did.

 

[eddiew37]

I love Alaska... For about 40 years I never ever imagined living anywhere else; my city, my people, folks I went to elementary school with, and new folks from all over the world who came with the military: "roots" I suppose. Now, 43 years later, it's so damn cold... my knees and finger joints ache for days around snowfalls, I worry about falling on the ice often, worse though I worry about folks sliding on the roads. It's fucking six below outside today and we froze our asses off for 6 hours doing some shopping - hated it. And worse, I know damn well that in a month or so it'll be 15-25 below - I'm dreading it already :< I want warm. I need a six car garage instead of four - I want to run to the store in the middle of the night for food coloring without it being a major production (shovel path, start car, brush off snow, scrape windows - its 30 minutes minimum lead time [though I suppose it's still shorter than rush hour traffic heh])

Still I do love Alaska, almost everyone who moved outta here does, but there's an age at which you say cold sucks balls and you're forced out, even if for just the winter (snowbirders we call em) - Alaska is a perfect state for snow machiners, skiers, and hard core hunter/fishers; for young folks who can take the falls, can take the ice and snow and cold...

I've prayed and prayed for that global warming thing to let me stay here - as fucking usual the politicians lied I wanna move to Nevada, sooo warm, and dry heat so it's not all sticky gross ("sweaty" my husband says about like Georgia and Florida when we visit; I don't sweat so whatever ya'll normies call it.) Plus Nevada lets us take our gun collections

The shame of Alaska is they gave us Palin

 

[flacaltenn]

If California is such a killer place, and run so well,why do they need federal tax dollars?

California ranks 46th in federal dependency.

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States

None of that includes the disparity in cost of living from state to state. Many red states are extreme bargains that can stretch a paycheck by a factor of 2 to 1. Also none of that includes the MASSIVE tax breaks for State/Local Income taxes that are almost EXCLUSIVELY a Blue State thing. Federal govt just is braindead and ASSUMES that $15/hr is same benefit in every state. Also assumes a one size fits all standard deduction on tax forms and that there is ONLY ONE "poverty level" for all 50 states. CLEARLY -- they are deluded.

So the revenues BACK from the Fed are roughly the same per capita. But the revenues TO the Fed treasury on income tax are anywhere from 25% to 35% lower per capita... Because Red States do not have inflated cost of living, wages, taxes..

You leftists are UNDERPAYING yourselves because EVERYTHING IN LIFE in your little blue havens is chronically INFLATED.. Adjust for all things I mentioned and this talking point goes away for you. NOT the fault of the Red States at all. It's the brain dead "one size fits all" way that Congress writes tax and benefit laws.

 

[EverCurious]

I love Alaska... For about 40 years I never ever imagined living anywhere else; my city, my people, folks I went to elementary school with, and new folks from all over the world who came with the military: "roots" I suppose. Now, 43 years later, it's so damn cold... my knees and finger joints ache for days around snowfalls, I worry about falling on the ice often, worse though I worry about folks sliding on the roads. It's fucking six below outside today and we froze our asses off for 6 hours doing some shopping - hated it. And worse, I know damn well that in a month or so it'll be 15-25 below - I'm dreading it already :< I want warm. I need a six car garage instead of four - I want to run to the store in the middle of the night for food coloring without it being a major production (shovel path, start car, brush off snow, scrape windows - its 30 minutes minimum lead time [though I suppose it's still shorter than rush hour traffic heh])

Still I do love Alaska, almost everyone who moved outta here does, but there's an age at which you say cold sucks balls and you're forced out, even if for just the winter (snowbirders we call em) - Alaska is a perfect state for snow machiners, skiers, and hard core hunter/fishers; for young folks who can take the falls, can take the ice and snow and cold...

I've prayed and prayed for that global warming thing to let me stay here - as fucking usual the politicians lied I wanna move to Nevada, sooo warm, and dry heat so it's not all sticky gross ("sweaty" my husband says about like Georgia and Florida when we visit; I don't sweat so whatever ya'll normies call it.) Plus Nevada lets us take our gun collections

The shame of Alaska is they gave us Palin

Meh she was.... valley trash. I mean her aim was good - right leaning but independent - but she was a bit too snotty and elitist for my tastes. She always did think her shit smelled like roses. Most of us forgave her slight stink because she shoved a massive stick up the oil companies asses sideways ~giggle~

 

[NYcarbineer]

If California is such a killer place, and run so well,why do they need federal tax dollars?

California ranks 46th in federal dependency.

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States

None of that includes the disparity in cost of living from state to state. Many red states are extreme bargains that can stretch a paycheck by a factor of 2 to 1. Also none of that includes the MASSIVE tax breaks for State/Local Income taxes that are almost EXCLUSIVELY a Blue State thing. Federal govt just is braindead and ASSUMES that $15/hr is same benefit in every state. Also assumes a one size fits all standard deduction on tax forms and that there is ONLY ONE "poverty level" for all 50 states. CLEARLY -- they are deluded.

So the revenues BACK from the Fed are roughly the same per capita. But the revenues TO the Fed treasury on income tax are anywhere from 25% to 35% lower per capita... Because Red States do not have inflated cost of living, wages, taxes..

You leftists are UNDERPAYING yourselves because EVERYTHING IN LIFE in your little blue havens is chronically INFLATED.. Adjust for all things I mentioned and this talking point goes away for you. NOT the fault of the Red States at all. It's the brain dead "one size fits all" way that Congress writes tax and benefit laws.

California has high real estate prices because so many people want to live, work, and do business there.

 

[Tax Man]

Who wants to live in Alabama Or Mississipp, or South Carolina ? Despite being in the union since forever , they biggest “cities “ have less population than some LA suburbs.

The red states you list have
1. The most poverty
2. Least people covered by health insurance
3. Least educated
4. Most run down
5. Receive the most food stamps and federal help

Completely run down shit holes!

There's no comparison between the redneck trough that exists between Texas and South Carolina and California. Sorry. Your little tight shots from who knows where means jack shit.

Read these comments. They come from idiots with partisan bias and no life experience out their little blue nirvanas.

I left Cali because it was being systemically wrecked and hijacked by a SINGLE party government. Had a house on the hills over the Bay Area worth over $1mill and it was a run of the mill 1600sq ft tract home. No value to that. No EARTHQUAKE insurance either. Since the fuck-ups in Sacramento took OVER that Insurance market and WRECKED it. Coverage dropped from 60+% of homeowners to less than 25%. It didn't cover nuttin and was too expensive. And I lived 1 and 1/4 mile from the San Andreas Fault.

Also had a daughter soon entering schools. And public schools were gang ridden and spending too much money on teaching EVERY COURSE in at least 2 languages. Which I don't object to until that includes Physics, Chemistry, Calculus and other advanced placement stuff. The city library that had won awards year after year became a hang-out for vile kids with no manners humping in the stacks. And my wife had two kids out of a gang of them WALK over the hood of my Bimmer in the middle of street. They were walking right down the middle of the fucking road.

I LOVE immigration. Really do. But the TYPE of Mexican immigrate coming in after 2000 changed dramatically. Even the 3rd/4th gen immigrants that were friends of ours complained. I have a 100 stories of Cali failure. From spending money to recarpet classrooms BEFORE they fixed the leaky roof to that great High Speed Train to nowhere fiasco.

So you jerks stuff it. The South is eating your lunch in terms of jobs and industry. Poverty is MAGNIFIED here by the fact that the morons in Wash. make "one size fits all" programs that DON'T account for DRASTIC differences in cost of living. You can have the same things in the South for sometimes 1/2 the salary required to SURVIVE in Cali or other Blue Areas. Those places run wage and price inflated. So even the Federal Poverty level is WRONG. Dead wrong in terms of how well people live.

So -- I bought 3 times the house and land in Tenn. For 1/2 the price of my Cali shack. Daughter went to a public High School ranked in the Top 10 in the nation by Forbes (IIRC). You see with lower cost of living, MORE FOLKS can afford areas with good schools.

My little sleepy burb JUST STOLE 2 of Cali's corporate HQ operations in the past 5 years. They built beautiful new campuses and their employees are loving it.

I LIKE that you idiots are so damn stupid and biased. We certainly wouldn't want YOU to come down here and fuck it up for us. You jerks called it a "redneck trough" or "shit holes"..

Here's the front porch view from my shithole in a redneck trough idiots..

You can have your assbackwards life. I love California and made my money here and will stay here.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You can have your assbackwards life. I love California and made my money here and will stay here.

California, like China, has two very -very different economies.
In the "good" areas is it indeed lovely. Not to mention the weather.
Outside of those areas and it is shit.
L.A. has 50,000 homeless, and more people below the poverty line than any other large city in the United States.
Los Angeles pays out $3,500,000 EVERY DAY to finance their welfare payouts to ILLEGAL immigrants, that doesn't count the massive welfare payouts for residents.
I could go on....for a long time.
Then we can talk about Portland. Another liberal haven self imploding.

 

[charwin95]

ive noticed a trend of threads attacking California. I guess they see it as some sort of liberal flagship, even though it has many red sections.

Here’s the thing . Despite its flaws it’s still way better than these hard core red states .

Who wants to live in Alabama Or Mississipp, or South Carolina ? Despite being in the union since forever , they biggest “cities “ have less population than some LA suburbs.

Because the truth is that red states suck . Even with the warm weather, people don’t want to be there .

Yup, it's a wonderful place.

View attachment 162778

It sure is:
California Overtakes France to Become Sixth-Largest Economy

Imagine that, the Sixth-Largest Economy has the highest number of homeless...go figure.
10 Most Homeless States in America

Let’s pick state versus states. Compared any states of that to California populations of 40 millions. Where do you think California is?
Or pick the the number of homeless in your state then compared that to California.

 

[charwin95]

I’ve been all over US and around the world. I love California and I will not live anywhere else but Southern California and Key Biscayne.

 

[Thinker101]

ive noticed a trend of threads attacking California. I guess they see it as some sort of liberal flagship, even though it has many red sections.

Here’s the thing . Despite its flaws it’s still way better than these hard core red states .

Who wants to live in Alabama Or Mississipp, or South Carolina ? Despite being in the union since forever , they biggest “cities “ have less population than some LA suburbs.

Because the truth is that red states suck . Even with the warm weather, people don’t want to be there .

Yup, it's a wonderful place.

View attachment 162778

It sure is:
California Overtakes France to Become Sixth-Largest Economy

Imagine that, the Sixth-Largest Economy has the highest number of homeless...go figure.
10 Most Homeless States in America

Let’s pick state versus states. Compared any states of that to California populations of 40 millions. Where do you think California is?
Or pick the the number of homeless in your state then compared that to California.

Compare states? Compare them on what? If you're comparing the number of homeless, refer to the 10 most homeless states link.