Cons overwhelmingly vote for Harvey welfare .

During democrat administrations they call it "disaster relief" but they call it "welfare" when a republican is in office. The longer the crazy left plays the semantics game the more they look like pathetic sore losers.
And what did our great repub politicians call Sandy ,,,,besides not voting for aid??/ Or did you forget?
I don't recall republicans calling Sandy relief "welfare". What do you remember?
They called it pork Seems they always find a way to bash dem states How about Texass raising their taxes and help pay for the disaster??
Texas ranked 4th among low-tax states
The state of New York imposes the highest tax burden on its residents, while the residents of Wyoming enjoy the least tax burden, 24/7 Wall St. reported citing data from the Tax Foundation.

During the 2011 tax season, Americans paid 9.8% of their income in state and local taxes, in addition to the taxes collected by the federal government. Residents of New York paid 12.6% of their income in state and local taxes, while Wyoming collected less than 7% from its tax-payers.

States with low tax burdens often eliminated a major type of tax. States that had high tax burdens typically utilized a wide range of taxes. “High tax states tend to be those that not only have high [tax] rates but tax a lot of different things in a lot of different ways,” Lyman Stone, economist at the Tax Foundation, told 24/7 Wall St.

24/7 Wall St. compiled the lists of states with the highest and lowest tax burdens using the Tax Foundation’s analysis of state and local tax burden as a share of state residents’ income. This includes all taxes paid by residents to the state or to various localities.

Among the states with lowest taxes:

4. Texas
Taxes paid by residents as pct. of income: 7.5%
Total state taxes collected: $48.6 billion (3rd highest)
Tax burden per capita: 3,088 (8th smallest)
Income per capita: $41,269 (23rd highest)
Texas is one of a handful of states with no income tax - individual or corporate. Texas also has among the lowest gas tax rates.


These are some of the states with the highest taxes:

1. New York
Taxes paid by residents as percent of income: 12.6%
Total state taxes collected: $71.5 billion (2nd highest)
Tax burden per capita: $6,622 (3rd largest)
Income per capita: $52,417 (5th highest)
According to 24/7 Wall St., more than half of the $71.5 billion came from individual income taxes.

2. New Jersey
Taxes paid by residents as percent of income: 12.3%
Total state taxes collected: $27.5 billion (7th highest)
Tax burden per capita: $6,675 (2nd largest)
Income per capita: $54,422 (2nd highest)
According to 24/7, one of the reasons for the higher taxes could be the state's "considerable debt burden of $7,328 per capita, the fifth highest in the U.S


Yet Texas ranks 2nd in Federal tax collected by state. Could be thats because they have a more active an growing economy than other places even though individuals pay less.
Of course Democrats are all about socking it to the Individual (code word for racist) who works rather than just have their state pay its fair share in Taxes when looking at the bottom line. Its akin to Democratic Senators believing the Island of Guam can flip over... they just have everything upside down.

Yes, Texas should get help in even of a Hurricane. Its the Governments job to promote stability to the country in state of Emergency. Considering the petroleum that flows through Texas it's also in the benefit of the ENTIRE country that Texas be helped get back up to speed. Increase in fuel costs can potentially cost the rest of the nation billions of Dollars but rational people would not expect Democrats to realize that. They are more concerned with equating disaster relief with telling someone that they dont need to work.

Compare US Federal Revenue by State 1998-2015 -Chart
 
Deserves a hand.

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Not so much.

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Comprehend the difference?
 
During democrat administrations they call it "disaster relief" but they call it "welfare" when a republican is in office. The longer the crazy left plays the semantics game the more they look like pathetic sore losers.
And what did our great repub politicians call Sandy ,,,,besides not voting for aid??/ Or did you forget?
I don't recall republicans calling Sandy relief "welfare". What do you remember?
They called it pork Seems they always find a way to bash dem states How about Texass raising their taxes and help pay for the disaster??
Texas ranked 4th among low-tax states
The state of New York imposes the highest tax burden on its residents, while the residents of Wyoming enjoy the least tax burden, 24/7 Wall St. reported citing data from the Tax Foundation.

During the 2011 tax season, Americans paid 9.8% of their income in state and local taxes, in addition to the taxes collected by the federal government. Residents of New York paid 12.6% of their income in state and local taxes, while Wyoming collected less than 7% from its tax-payers.

States with low tax burdens often eliminated a major type of tax. States that had high tax burdens typically utilized a wide range of taxes. “High tax states tend to be those that not only have high [tax] rates but tax a lot of different things in a lot of different ways,” Lyman Stone, economist at the Tax Foundation, told 24/7 Wall St.

24/7 Wall St. compiled the lists of states with the highest and lowest tax burdens using the Tax Foundation’s analysis of state and local tax burden as a share of state residents’ income. This includes all taxes paid by residents to the state or to various localities.

Among the states with lowest taxes:

4. Texas
Taxes paid by residents as pct. of income: 7.5%
Total state taxes collected: $48.6 billion (3rd highest)
Tax burden per capita: 3,088 (8th smallest)
Income per capita: $41,269 (23rd highest)
Texas is one of a handful of states with no income tax - individual or corporate. Texas also has among the lowest gas tax rates.


These are some of the states with the highest taxes:

1. New York
Taxes paid by residents as percent of income: 12.6%
Total state taxes collected: $71.5 billion (2nd highest)
Tax burden per capita: $6,622 (3rd largest)
Income per capita: $52,417 (5th highest)
According to 24/7 Wall St., more than half of the $71.5 billion came from individual income taxes.

2. New Jersey
Taxes paid by residents as percent of income: 12.3%
Total state taxes collected: $27.5 billion (7th highest)
Tax burden per capita: $6,675 (2nd largest)
Income per capita: $54,422 (2nd highest)
According to 24/7, one of the reasons for the higher taxes could be the state's "considerable debt burden of $7,328 per capita, the fifth highest in the U.S


Yet Texas ranks 2nd in Federal tax collected by state. Could be thats because they have a more active an growing economy than other places even though individuals pay less.
Of course Democrats are all about socking it to the Individual (code word for racist) who works rather than just have their state pay its fair share in Taxes when looking at the bottom line. Its akin to Democratic Senators believing the Island of Guam can flip over... they just have everything upside down.

Yes, Texas should get help in even of a Hurricane. Its the Governments job to promote stability to the country in state of Emergency. Considering the petroleum that flows through Texas it's also in the benefit of the ENTIRE country that Texas be helped get back up to speed. Increase in fuel costs can potentially cost the rest of the nation billions of Dollars but rational people would not expect Democrats to realize that. They are more concerned with equating disaster relief with telling someone that they dont need to work.

Compare US Federal Revenue by State 1998-2015 -Chart
Without the oil ,,,,,,,Texas would be like Botswana
 
And what did our great repub politicians call Sandy ,,,,besides not voting for aid??/ Or did you forget?
I don't recall republicans calling Sandy relief "welfare". What do you remember?
They called it pork Seems they always find a way to bash dem states How about Texass raising their taxes and help pay for the disaster??
Texas ranked 4th among low-tax states
The state of New York imposes the highest tax burden on its residents, while the residents of Wyoming enjoy the least tax burden, 24/7 Wall St. reported citing data from the Tax Foundation.

During the 2011 tax season, Americans paid 9.8% of their income in state and local taxes, in addition to the taxes collected by the federal government. Residents of New York paid 12.6% of their income in state and local taxes, while Wyoming collected less than 7% from its tax-payers.

States with low tax burdens often eliminated a major type of tax. States that had high tax burdens typically utilized a wide range of taxes. “High tax states tend to be those that not only have high [tax] rates but tax a lot of different things in a lot of different ways,” Lyman Stone, economist at the Tax Foundation, told 24/7 Wall St.

24/7 Wall St. compiled the lists of states with the highest and lowest tax burdens using the Tax Foundation’s analysis of state and local tax burden as a share of state residents’ income. This includes all taxes paid by residents to the state or to various localities.

Among the states with lowest taxes:

4. Texas
Taxes paid by residents as pct. of income: 7.5%
Total state taxes collected: $48.6 billion (3rd highest)
Tax burden per capita: 3,088 (8th smallest)
Income per capita: $41,269 (23rd highest)
Texas is one of a handful of states with no income tax - individual or corporate. Texas also has among the lowest gas tax rates.


These are some of the states with the highest taxes:

1. New York
Taxes paid by residents as percent of income: 12.6%
Total state taxes collected: $71.5 billion (2nd highest)
Tax burden per capita: $6,622 (3rd largest)
Income per capita: $52,417 (5th highest)
According to 24/7 Wall St., more than half of the $71.5 billion came from individual income taxes.

2. New Jersey
Taxes paid by residents as percent of income: 12.3%
Total state taxes collected: $27.5 billion (7th highest)
Tax burden per capita: $6,675 (2nd largest)
Income per capita: $54,422 (2nd highest)
According to 24/7, one of the reasons for the higher taxes could be the state's "considerable debt burden of $7,328 per capita, the fifth highest in the U.S


Yet Texas ranks 2nd in Federal tax collected by state. Could be thats because they have a more active an growing economy than other places even though individuals pay less.
Of course Democrats are all about socking it to the Individual (code word for racist) who works rather than just have their state pay its fair share in Taxes when looking at the bottom line. Its akin to Democratic Senators believing the Island of Guam can flip over... they just have everything upside down.

Yes, Texas should get help in even of a Hurricane. Its the Governments job to promote stability to the country in state of Emergency. Considering the petroleum that flows through Texas it's also in the benefit of the ENTIRE country that Texas be helped get back up to speed. Increase in fuel costs can potentially cost the rest of the nation billions of Dollars but rational people would not expect Democrats to realize that. They are more concerned with equating disaster relief with telling someone that they dont need to work.

Compare US Federal Revenue by State 1998-2015 -Chart
Without the oil ,,,,,,,Texas would be like Botswana
If... But... Yawn...
 
419-3 the house voted to send $8bill in welfare to Texas . Just the beginning.

I guess everyone has an anti "wealth distribution " "big gubment" "nanny state ", plan until a hurricane punches you in the mouth .

House passes Hurricane Harvey relief aid - CNNPolitics



Standard dishonest lib tactic of pretending all government is socialism.

BORING.

I'm sorry I don't conservatives here start a dozen socialism threads every day?

If it's not socialism then what is it? Capitalism?
 
419-3 the house voted to send $8bill in welfare to Texas . Just the beginning.

I guess everyone has an anti "wealth distribution " "big gubment" "nanny state ", plan until a hurricane punches you in the mouth

No. It just means thst these people are politicians and not actual Conservative ideologues. That's another set of additions to the list of politicians I'll never vote for.
 
I suspect by a week or two from now there will be a whole lot of reporters sick to death of standing in knee deep water and/or high winds doing their idiotic hurricane reports AGAIN.

The gators in Florida will be like "oh you think you saw some alligators in Houston and LA? Let me show you what alligators living in your house looks like. Just a second, let me loosen up my jaws. Your gubment is going to need to provide lot's of gator aid".

The estimate for the damage in Texas right now is about $180 billion and that will likely go to $200-$250 billion before it's all said and done. Irma has already been declared the most powerful hurricane to come out of the Atlantic in history. So let's put a conservative estimate on the damage at $100 billion, likely to get to $200-$250 billion. $300-$500 billion dollars just for these two hurricanes and the hurricane season goes another 3 months. And let's not discount what the US will spend to help all the other islands in Irma's path.

We're likely talking about half a trillion dollars before it's all said and done.

Who will be the arch conservatives who say "the states should take care of their own business and keep the federal government out of it". Likely there won't be any, they'll all be standing with their ragged clothes and empty out-turned pockets in front of Uncle Sam's house asking for money. Cons, a learning moment for you and your false bravado of "we don't need no stinkin' gubment handout". Looks like you need a half a trillion dollars worth of gubment handouts.

The rest of us understand this is how real life works and don't have a problem with the 'socialism' of money collected from the entire nation helping a few hard hit states, no matter where they are located. And we'll assume you will pressure your various red states to start building proper infrastucture to handle such disasters in the future rather than carping about how 'we don't have no gubment regulations, we let people do what they want'.
 
419-3 the house voted to send $8bill in welfare to Texas . Just the beginning.

I guess everyone has an anti "wealth distribution " "big gubment" "nanny state ", plan until a hurricane punches you in the mouth .

House passes Hurricane Harvey relief aid - CNNPolitics



Standard dishonest lib tactic of pretending all government is socialism.

BORING.

I'm sorry I don't conservatives here start a dozen socialism threads every day?

If it's not socialism then what is it? Capitalism?



Government.
 
Well, they better get ready to fund another disaster relief bill, because Irma is coming.

And, if it hits at the bottom of FL with it's 20 ft. storm surge and cat 4 or 5 wind, it's gonna level Miami.

You say that as though it were a bad thing. Northern Florida probably wouldn't mind if the state broke off at I-4 and the southern part sank into the sea.
 
419-3 the house voted to send $8bill in welfare to Texas . Just the beginning.

I guess everyone has an anti "wealth distribution " "big gubment" "nanny state ", plan until a hurricane punches you in the mouth .
Die, commie. You're not getting our guns or universal healthcare. Give up. The communist revolution will never happen in America.
 
During democrat administrations they call it "disaster relief" but they call it "welfare" when a republican is in office. The longer the crazy left plays the semantics game the more they look like pathetic sore losers.
And what did our great repub politicians call Sandy ,,,,besides not voting for aid??/ Or did you forget?

The bill was a pork-laden Democrat payoff to voters in the Northeast.
 
I suspect by a week or two from now there will be a whole lot of reporters sick to death of standing in knee deep water and/or high winds doing their idiotic hurricane reports AGAIN.

The gators in Florida will be like "oh you think you saw some alligators in Houston and LA? Let me show you what alligators living in your house looks like. Just a second, let me loosen up my jaws. Your gubment is going to need to provide lot's of gator aid".

The estimate for the damage in Texas right now is about $180 billion and that will likely go to $200-$250 billion before it's all said and done. Irma has already been declared the most powerful hurricane to come out of the Atlantic in history. So let's put a conservative estimate on the damage at $100 billion, likely to get to $200-$250 billion. $300-$500 billion dollars just for these two hurricanes and the hurricane season goes another 3 months. And let's not discount what the US will spend to help all the other islands in Irma's path.

We're likely talking about half a trillion dollars before it's all said and done.

Who will be the arch conservatives who say "the states should take care of their own business and keep the federal government out of it". Likely there won't be any, they'll all be standing with their ragged clothes and empty out-turned pockets in front of Uncle Sam's house asking for money. Cons, a learning moment for you and your false bravado of "we don't need no stinkin' gubment handout". Looks like you need a half a trillion dollars worth of gubment handouts.

The rest of us understand this is how real life works and don't have a problem with the 'socialism' of money collected from the entire nation helping a few hard hit states, no matter where they are located. And we'll assume you will pressure your various red states to start building proper infrastucture to handle such disasters in the future rather than carping about how 'we don't have no gubment regulations, we let people do what they want'.
Nothing is more beautiful than a Republican standing on a corner with his hand out saying "brother can you spare a,,,,,dollar?
 
During democrat administrations they call it "disaster relief" but they call it "welfare" when a republican is in office. The longer the crazy left plays the semantics game the more they look like pathetic sore losers.
And what did our great repub politicians call Sandy ,,,,besides not voting for aid??/ Or did you forget?

The bill was a pork-laden Democrat payoff to voters in the Northeast.
and so is any aid to texas Get your own house in order You expect others taxes to pay for you??
 
The 'real' conservatives can't find the authority of the federal government to administer natural disaster aid anywhere in the Constitution.
That is correct.

The only argument for such relief is national security. Places struck by natural disaster, especially coastal disasters, are a foreign-invasion security risk. We should at least demand that all relief dollars come from the defense budget?
:dunno:
 
Eight billion is very conservative. That's nothing compared to what the Feds spent on Katrina, a mere cat 3 storm, actually cat 2 when it hit land. Of course, Katrina his a predominately black city, and they always cost tax payers a lot more, more than twice as much as cat 5 Andrew nailing Florida.

The Liberal welfare doesn't hit until the next big check the feds write...

$8 bill is just the start. That's seed money . Wait till you see the real amount .

At least New Orleans was hit by a hurricane . Houston was not.

You seriously need to lay off the drugs while you are on the message board.
 
And what did our great repub politicians call Sandy ,,,,besides not voting for aid??/ Or did you forget?
I don't recall republicans calling Sandy relief "welfare". What do you remember?
They called it pork Seems they always find a way to bash dem states How about Texass raising their taxes and help pay for the disaster??
Texas ranked 4th among low-tax states
The state of New York imposes the highest tax burden on its residents, while the residents of Wyoming enjoy the least tax burden, 24/7 Wall St. reported citing data from the Tax Foundation.

During the 2011 tax season, Americans paid 9.8% of their income in state and local taxes, in addition to the taxes collected by the federal government. Residents of New York paid 12.6% of their income in state and local taxes, while Wyoming collected less than 7% from its tax-payers.

States with low tax burdens often eliminated a major type of tax. States that had high tax burdens typically utilized a wide range of taxes. “High tax states tend to be those that not only have high [tax] rates but tax a lot of different things in a lot of different ways,” Lyman Stone, economist at the Tax Foundation, told 24/7 Wall St.

24/7 Wall St. compiled the lists of states with the highest and lowest tax burdens using the Tax Foundation’s analysis of state and local tax burden as a share of state residents’ income. This includes all taxes paid by residents to the state or to various localities.

Among the states with lowest taxes:

4. Texas
Taxes paid by residents as pct. of income: 7.5%
Total state taxes collected: $48.6 billion (3rd highest)
Tax burden per capita: 3,088 (8th smallest)
Income per capita: $41,269 (23rd highest)
Texas is one of a handful of states with no income tax - individual or corporate. Texas also has among the lowest gas tax rates.


These are some of the states with the highest taxes:

1. New York
Taxes paid by residents as percent of income: 12.6%
Total state taxes collected: $71.5 billion (2nd highest)
Tax burden per capita: $6,622 (3rd largest)
Income per capita: $52,417 (5th highest)
According to 24/7 Wall St., more than half of the $71.5 billion came from individual income taxes.

2. New Jersey
Taxes paid by residents as percent of income: 12.3%
Total state taxes collected: $27.5 billion (7th highest)
Tax burden per capita: $6,675 (2nd largest)
Income per capita: $54,422 (2nd highest)
According to 24/7, one of the reasons for the higher taxes could be the state's "considerable debt burden of $7,328 per capita, the fifth highest in the U.S


Yet Texas ranks 2nd in Federal tax collected by state. Could be thats because they have a more active an growing economy than other places even though individuals pay less.
Of course Democrats are all about socking it to the Individual (code word for racist) who works rather than just have their state pay its fair share in Taxes when looking at the bottom line. Its akin to Democratic Senators believing the Island of Guam can flip over... they just have everything upside down.

Yes, Texas should get help in even of a Hurricane. Its the Governments job to promote stability to the country in state of Emergency. Considering the petroleum that flows through Texas it's also in the benefit of the ENTIRE country that Texas be helped get back up to speed. Increase in fuel costs can potentially cost the rest of the nation billions of Dollars but rational people would not expect Democrats to realize that. They are more concerned with equating disaster relief with telling someone that they dont need to work.

Compare US Federal Revenue by State 1998-2015 -Chart
Without the oil ,,,,,,,Texas would be like Botswana

Is that your homeland?
 
Texas better move quick . Cause after Irma you'll be yesterday's news .

The historically massive wildfires out west have gotten just about zero coverage.
I know...my niece lives in Missoula and there's some pretty bad fires all around.

Missoula is a nice town. Used to go to school in Frenchtown (about 20 miles away), in the late 70's/early 80's. And yeah, they are getting clobbered by the wildfires.

Dunno how anyone missed stories on that though, because BBC America, VICE News, and NBC Nightly News have all had stories on this for the past couple of days.
 
During democrat administrations they call it "disaster relief" but they call it "welfare" when a republican is in office. The longer the crazy left plays the semantics game the more they look like pathetic sore losers.
And what did our great repub politicians call Sandy ,,,,besides not voting for aid??/ Or did you forget?

The bill was a pork-laden Democrat payoff to voters in the Northeast.
and so is any aid to texas Get your own house in order You expect others taxes to pay for you??

So, did you look at the bill for Sandy and compare it to the current bill? Of course not!

Libs cannot comprehend the written word, so they bloviate!
 

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