Conservatism VS Liberalism

[candycorn]

What isn't mentioned in the OP is that the GOP governor and President Trump have cut and done away with State/Federal educational spending. There is no wood shop.

Yes, because all wood shops are the product of government intervention. But thanks for the liberal perspective.

If it’s in a public school, it is. Where do you think schools come from? Please humor us with your “intellect”.

Really... you believe that all wood shops are products of government? So before public schools existed, there was never anyone who did wood work? There was never apprentices at wood shops? No one on the face of the earth, worked with wood until government came alone and created wood working class?

You make a joke about 'intellect' while displaying your lack of any 'intellect'.

Typical left-wing idiocy. Apparently the dawn of human existence began with a politician decreeing it exist.

Well, the OP referenced grades. Usually that means school. You know, that place you dropped out of in 4th grade?

Christ, you guys don’t even bother reading your fellow nut job’s OPs

 

[candycorn]

Liberals tout policies rooted in class warfare. Take Income Inequality. They believe this can be resolved through redistribution of other peoples' money. How's that working out?

Built the greatest civilization ever in the known universe.

The USSR fell apart. Check your history!

Was referring to the USA. That you trumpians think the USSR was the greatest is not surprising though.

 

[Andylusion]

What isn't mentioned in the OP is that the GOP governor and President Trump have cut and done away with State/Federal educational spending. There is no wood shop.

Yes, because all wood shops are the product of government intervention. But thanks for the liberal perspective.

If it’s in a public school, it is. Where do you think schools come from? Please humor us with your “intellect”.

Really... you believe that all wood shops are products of government? So before public schools existed, there was never anyone who did wood work? There was never apprentices at wood shops? No one on the face of the earth, worked with wood until government came alone and created wood working class?

You make a joke about 'intellect' while displaying your lack of any 'intellect'.

Typical left-wing idiocy. Apparently the dawn of human existence began with a politician decreeing it exist.

Well, the OP referenced grades. Usually that means school. You know, that place you dropped out of in 4th grade?

Christ, you guys don’t even bother reading your fellow nut job’s OPs

Once again, you attack someone about not reading the post, while you yourself did not read the post.....

"Yes, because all wood shops are the product of government intervention."

What part of "all" wood shops, in your left-wing world, means only 'graded' wood shops?

If I dropped out of school... then what is your excuse for being this dumb?

 

[Andylusion]

Liberals tout policies rooted in class warfare. Take Income Inequality. They believe this can be resolved through redistribution of other peoples' money. How's that working out?

Built the greatest civilization ever in the known universe.

The USSR fell apart. Check your history!

Was referring to the USA. That you trumpians think the USSR was the greatest is not surprising though.

The USA has always been a Capitalist based system. The USSR, Laos, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, and pre-78 China, were "redistribution" based systems.

The US has never been a Redistribution based system, ever. And the closer we get to your redistribution based system, the worse our society gets. With ObamaCare being a perfect example.

Try again. Show me a country where your system worked.

 

[P@triot]

What isn't mentioned in the OP is that the GOP governor and President Trump have cut and done away with State/Federal educational spending. There is no wood shop.

That would be because the U.S. Constitution dictates 0 federal spending on education. If only you understand how your own government operates.

 

[rightwinger]

I've been thinking of good way to teach people what each one means and may have come up with the parable. Wood shop. Yes that icky physical labor lefties hate so much. But it fits.

You step into wood shop on day one and have a choice to make. You can choose to be a liberal craftsman or a conservative one.

If you choose to be a liberal you will have the choice of all pine blocks cut exactly the same, same size, same weight and same grain. And you will make that into smaller blocks, perfectly square if you can but if you can't do that it's fine. You are guaranteed to get a D in the class. You can't make anything other than square blocks, you can never get a C for making better blocks than anyone else but you can't fail either if you never even get a block cut out. It's all fair. No winners, no special treatment for those that did well, everything is equal.

If you choose to be a conservative craftsman you walk into a room full of all kinds of lumber. Oak, Walnut, Redwood etc. 100's of varieties. You can make anything you want, out of anything you want. What you don't get is the guaranteed D for the class. You can get an F, but you can also get an A,B or C. All you have to do is make something people like. If you make perfectly square blocks like the libs you'll probably get an F. Nobody needs those they're pretty basic. Put in a little effort though and the sky is the limit.

If you want the guaranteed barely passing grade you need to be a liberal. If you want the A and all that comes with that success you need to be a conservative. It's really that simple.

Nice try ...but makes no sense

A liberal craftsman will take chances, be creative , use new tools, try things never done before

A conservative craftsman will do things again and again the same way just to be safe. This is the way my father and grandfather did it

 

[guno]

What a load the OP is. At the least it shows a 'conservative' can't concisely explain the meaning of words, neither can he find nor use a dictionary.

Cons are flyover rubes that haven't been exposed or educated to critical thinking skills, hicks rubes, yahoos and peckerwoods

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I've been thinking of good way to teach people what each one means and may have come up with the parable. Wood shop. Yes that icky physical labor lefties hate so much. But it fits.

You step into wood shop on day one and have a choice to make. You can choose to be a liberal craftsman or a conservative one.

If you choose to be a liberal you will have the choice of all pine blocks cut exactly the same, same size, same weight and same grain. And you will make that into smaller blocks, perfectly square if you can but if you can't do that it's fine. You are guaranteed to get a D in the class. You can't make anything other than square blocks, you can never get a C for making better blocks than anyone else but you can't fail either if you never even get a block cut out. It's all fair. No winners, no special treatment for those that did well, everything is equal.

If you choose to be a conservative craftsman you walk into a room full of all kinds of lumber. Oak, Walnut, Redwood etc. 100's of varieties. You can make anything you want, out of anything you want. What you don't get is the guaranteed D for the class. You can get an F, but you can also get an A,B or C. All you have to do is make something people like. If you make perfectly square blocks like the libs you'll probably get an F. Nobody needs those they're pretty basic. Put in a little effort though and the sky is the limit.

If you want the guaranteed barely passing grade you need to be a liberal. If you want the A and all that comes with that success you need to be a conservative. It's really that simple.

Nice try ...but makes no sense

A liberal craftsman will take chances, be creative , use new tools, try things never done before

A conservative craftsman will do things again and again the same way just to be safe. This is the way my father and grandfather did it

Meanwhile back here in reality land Cons are the ones starting a new shop with better designs and libs are sitting in the smoking lounge talking to a union rep about raising the cost of business so high the shop closes down. Liberals aren't creative. They're leaches.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

What a load the OP is. At the least it shows a 'conservative' can't concisely explain the meaning of words, neither can he find nor use a dictionary.

Cons are flyover rubes that haven't been exposed or educated to critical thinking skills, hicks rubes, yahoos and peckerwoods

Any chance we get the DNC to make you their new leader? Guano 2020!

 

[rightwinger]

I've been thinking of good way to teach people what each one means and may have come up with the parable. Wood shop. Yes that icky physical labor lefties hate so much. But it fits.

You step into wood shop on day one and have a choice to make. You can choose to be a liberal craftsman or a conservative one.

If you choose to be a liberal you will have the choice of all pine blocks cut exactly the same, same size, same weight and same grain. And you will make that into smaller blocks, perfectly square if you can but if you can't do that it's fine. You are guaranteed to get a D in the class. You can't make anything other than square blocks, you can never get a C for making better blocks than anyone else but you can't fail either if you never even get a block cut out. It's all fair. No winners, no special treatment for those that did well, everything is equal.

If you choose to be a conservative craftsman you walk into a room full of all kinds of lumber. Oak, Walnut, Redwood etc. 100's of varieties. You can make anything you want, out of anything you want. What you don't get is the guaranteed D for the class. You can get an F, but you can also get an A,B or C. All you have to do is make something people like. If you make perfectly square blocks like the libs you'll probably get an F. Nobody needs those they're pretty basic. Put in a little effort though and the sky is the limit.

If you want the guaranteed barely passing grade you need to be a liberal. If you want the A and all that comes with that success you need to be a conservative. It's really that simple.

Now let's continue with your shop class

The conservative shop class does not have women in it. Women have no place in a shop and dad and grandpa never worked with women
Blacks are allowed, but they are not allowed the same tools and are expected to sweep up afterwards
A gay guy tried to join once and classmates were encouraged to call him names and beat him up after class. A liberal classmate spoke up and was accused of being "politically correct"

 

[candycorn]

What isn't mentioned in the OP is that the GOP governor and President Trump have cut and done away with State/Federal educational spending. There is no wood shop.

Yes, because all wood shops are the product of government intervention. But thanks for the liberal perspective.

If it’s in a public school, it is. Where do you think schools come from? Please humor us with your “intellect”.

Really... you believe that all wood shops are products of government? So before public schools existed, there was never anyone who did wood work? There was never apprentices at wood shops? No one on the face of the earth, worked with wood until government came alone and created wood working class?

You make a joke about 'intellect' while displaying your lack of any 'intellect'.

Typical left-wing idiocy. Apparently the dawn of human existence began with a politician decreeing it exist.

Well, the OP referenced grades. Usually that means school. You know, that place you dropped out of in 4th grade?

Christ, you guys don’t even bother reading your fellow nut job’s OPs

Once again, you attack someone about not reading the post, while you yourself did not read the post.....

"Yes, because all wood shops are the product of government intervention."

What part of "all" wood shops, in your left-wing world, means only 'graded' wood shops?

If I dropped out of school... then what is your excuse for being this dumb?

Not my world
Just the one addressed in the OP.
If you could stay on topic…it would be nice.

As for the excuse for you being so dumb, I’m sure you were abused several times as a little boy.

 

[yiostheoy]

As I have explained many times, Conservatism is conserving more tax cuts for the rich.

And Liberalism is liberal government spending on ACA, Medicare, and Social Security.

 

[candycorn]

Liberals tout policies rooted in class warfare. Take Income Inequality. They believe this can be resolved through redistribution of other peoples' money. How's that working out?

Built the greatest civilization ever in the known universe.

The USSR fell apart. Check your history!

Was referring to the USA. That you trumpians think the USSR was the greatest is not surprising though.

The USA has always been a Capitalist based system. The USSR, Laos, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, and pre-78 China, were "redistribution" based systems.

The US has never been a Redistribution based system, ever. And the closer we get to your redistribution based system, the worse our society gets. With ObamaCare being a perfect example.

Try again. Show me a country where your system worked.

The US government…for as long as anyone who is alive today can remember…has always collected taxes and re-distributed wealth. Its shocking how little you know about; well…everything.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals tout policies rooted in class warfare. Take Income Inequality. They believe this can be resolved through redistribution of other peoples' money. How's that working out?

Built the greatest civilization ever in the known universe.

The USSR fell apart. Check your history!

Was referring to the USA. That you trumpians think the USSR was the greatest is not surprising though.

The USA has always been a Capitalist based system. The USSR, Laos, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, and pre-78 China, were "redistribution" based systems.

The US has never been a Redistribution based system, ever. And the closer we get to your redistribution based system, the worse our society gets. With ObamaCare being a perfect example.

Try again. Show me a country where your system worked.

The US government…for as long as anyone who is alive today can remember…has always collected taxes and re-distributed wealth. Its shocking how little you know about; well…everything.

The Government is not redistributing wealth. They are collecting revenue and spending it on services deemed essential.

 

[P@triot]

The Government is not redistributing wealth. They are collecting revenue and spending it on services deemed essential.

Of course they are. They collect more from wealthier people and give it to people who they do not collect from at all. That's redistribution.

Are you really this dumb or are you really a pathological liar? I can't tell which one it is but neither bodes well for you.

 

[Andylusion]

I've been thinking of good way to teach people what each one means and may have come up with the parable. Wood shop. Yes that icky physical labor lefties hate so much. But it fits.

You step into wood shop on day one and have a choice to make. You can choose to be a liberal craftsman or a conservative one.

If you choose to be a liberal you will have the choice of all pine blocks cut exactly the same, same size, same weight and same grain. And you will make that into smaller blocks, perfectly square if you can but if you can't do that it's fine. You are guaranteed to get a D in the class. You can't make anything other than square blocks, you can never get a C for making better blocks than anyone else but you can't fail either if you never even get a block cut out. It's all fair. No winners, no special treatment for those that did well, everything is equal.

If you choose to be a conservative craftsman you walk into a room full of all kinds of lumber. Oak, Walnut, Redwood etc. 100's of varieties. You can make anything you want, out of anything you want. What you don't get is the guaranteed D for the class. You can get an F, but you can also get an A,B or C. All you have to do is make something people like. If you make perfectly square blocks like the libs you'll probably get an F. Nobody needs those they're pretty basic. Put in a little effort though and the sky is the limit.

If you want the guaranteed barely passing grade you need to be a liberal. If you want the A and all that comes with that success you need to be a conservative. It's really that simple.

Now let's continue with your shop class

The conservative shop class does not have women in it. Women have no place in a shop and dad and grandpa never worked with women
Blacks are allowed, but they are not allowed the same tools and are expected to sweep up afterwards
A gay guy tried to join once and classmates were encouraged to call him names and beat him up after class. A liberal classmate spoke up and was accused of being "politically correct"

In the Liberal shop class, boys who actually like shop class, and are more skilled, and thus would benefit the most, are kicked out of the class, to make room for far lesser skilled people, who happen to be the politically correct gender or color.

Additionally, in the name of helping minorities, and those who are disenfranchised, the best tools and wood are taken away from those who are actually skilled at wood working, and given to those who break the tools, and destroy the wood, thus discouraging those who have real talent, and giving an air of entitlement and taking for granted what they have, those who don't have talent.

Finally, at the end of the school year, all grades are averaged out, so that those still manage to put in the effort to make a bird feed, with engraving and painted sides, complete with stand, are given the same C+ as the students who showed up with two wood slats held to together with duck tape, causing all students to be upset, and hate the entire class. Those who barely showed up, are angry because the others should have worked harder so they didn't end up with a C+. And those who worked hard, because put in so much effort, and ended up with the same as those who didn't.

Then after all the social promotion of unqualified students, to meet arbitrary versions of "equality", they go to college, and have to spend $1.5 Billion dollars in remedial class, lie "Elementary Wood Working" and then "Pre-College Wood Working" and then "Bridge-to-College Wood Working", before they can start "College Wood Working".

Remedial classes have become a hidden cost of college

(these are all based on actual Math classes now offered at Columbus State.... because students coming out of liberal public schools, have to take Elementary Math 050, to take Pre-College Math 060, to take Intermediate Math 075, to take Bridge to College Math 099.......... to then take College Math 101.

We literally have FOUR pre-college math classes, because the liberal education system is so backwards and useless, that people have to spend an entire year of classes to catch-up to...... 12th grade, after they graduate 12th grade.

This is YOUR system. Not ours.

Then you sit around complaining that college costs too much, when you we spend hundreds of billions on public schools that fail so bad, you have to take four different classes in college to catch up to entry level college?

Whose fault is that? YOURS. Not ours. You punish good students, and reward bad students, and think that conservatives are to blame? YOUR SYSTEM... not ours.

Worse, after your system sucks so horribly that is the most expensive, and least effective system in the world... then you are shocked we don't want to pay for it?

Idiots.

 

[Clementine]

Liberals in one major city passed a law making it illegal for a homeowner to cut down their own trees on their own property. They felt the trees needed protection from the evil homeowner. Here comes the punch line...then they fined homeowners because the trees dropped leaves in the street and the city had to clean them up. A few miles away liberals fined a homeowner for catching rain in his pond, the libs claimed they owned the rain. Yes they are that freaking insane.

And while people can't even catch rain in a barrel to water their vegetable garden, they make people pay for the rain water that runs down the gutter, as if it is their rain water. In other words, they've got you no matter what.

The name of the game with liberals is separating people from their money by any means possible. Look at each and every liberal policy and you'll see they all have one thing in common. Fines, fees, taxes, etc. They want wealth redistribution and they get more creative every year finding ways to take what you earn.

Government programs, Obamacare, global warming 'solutions', EPA regulations, etc. You can't do anything without paying a fee- getting married, owning a car, fishing, hunting, etc. You need to pay government for everything you do. Virtually everything is taxed already and the additional regulations and laws are designed to collect more money by way of fines. If you earn money, you WILL PAY. Nothing much will be accomplished but they'll have their paws on your income and that is always the objective with the left.

 

[Andylusion]

I've been thinking of good way to teach people what each one means and may have come up with the parable. Wood shop. Yes that icky physical labor lefties hate so much. But it fits.

You step into wood shop on day one and have a choice to make. You can choose to be a liberal craftsman or a conservative one.

If you choose to be a liberal you will have the choice of all pine blocks cut exactly the same, same size, same weight and same grain. And you will make that into smaller blocks, perfectly square if you can but if you can't do that it's fine. You are guaranteed to get a D in the class. You can't make anything other than square blocks, you can never get a C for making better blocks than anyone else but you can't fail either if you never even get a block cut out. It's all fair. No winners, no special treatment for those that did well, everything is equal.

If you choose to be a conservative craftsman you walk into a room full of all kinds of lumber. Oak, Walnut, Redwood etc. 100's of varieties. You can make anything you want, out of anything you want. What you don't get is the guaranteed D for the class. You can get an F, but you can also get an A,B or C. All you have to do is make something people like. If you make perfectly square blocks like the libs you'll probably get an F. Nobody needs those they're pretty basic. Put in a little effort though and the sky is the limit.

If you want the guaranteed barely passing grade you need to be a liberal. If you want the A and all that comes with that success you need to be a conservative. It's really that simple.

Nice try ...but makes no sense

A liberal craftsman will take chances, be creative , use new tools, try things never done before

A conservative craftsman will do things again and again the same way just to be safe. This is the way my father and grandfather did it

That is entirely not true. Likely the most conservative group in this country today, is the Amish. Have you been to an Amish Furniture store?

Terrible Conservative made Wood Working.


Brilliant Left-wing Liberal 'wood working'.

Yes, that's right... made with genuine recycled used wood, with all the latest in popular Liberal Ideals. The lamps are recycled metal as well (which is why they are bent like crap), but then new fashionable eco-friendly Liberal crap, can all be yours! Complete with wood rot, and insect holes!

That is soooooooo chic.... So in vogue.... So Liberal, and better than that cheesy hard wood, hand engraved, conservative made solid stuff..... that doesn't look like a bad set of lincoln logs....

 

[BluesLegend]

Liberals in one major city passed a law making it illegal for a homeowner to cut down their own trees on their own property. They felt the trees needed protection from the evil homeowner. Here comes the punch line...then they fined homeowners because the trees dropped leaves in the street and the city had to clean them up. A few miles away liberals fined a homeowner for catching rain in his pond, the libs claimed they owned the rain. Yes they are that freaking insane.

And while people can't even catch rain in a barrel to water their vegetable garden, they make people pay for the rain water that runs down the gutter, as if it is their rain water. In other words, they've got you no matter what.

The name of the game with liberals is separating people from their money by any means possible. Look at each and every liberal policy and you'll see they all have one thing in common. Fines, fees, taxes, etc. They want wealth redistribution and they get more creative every year finding ways to take what you earn.

Government programs, Obamacare, global warming 'solutions', EPA regulations, etc. You can't do anything without paying a fee- getting married, owning a car, fishing, hunting, etc. You need to pay government for everything you do. Virtually everything is taxed already and the additional regulations and laws are designed to collect more money by way of fines. If you earn money, you WILL PAY. Nothing much will be accomplished but they'll have their paws on your income and that is always the objective with the left.

And then whey you die, even though you already paid the taxes on your wealth, government swoops in again to take your money.

 

[Bush92]

What isn't mentioned in the OP is that the GOP governor and President Trump have cut and done away with State/Federal educational spending. There is no wood shop.

They would invest in vocational programs because that helps small business and energy companies. They would cut another basket weaving art program.