Conservative columnist George Will says he's voting for Biden

[Mac1958]

Not surprised. I've always respected George Will, even though I don't always agree - he writes well, and knows his stuff. He's a real conservative.

We sure as hell need more people who can communicate without comical hyperbole, flatulent talking points and grade school-level personal insults.

Or, maybe more to the point, they should be given more air time.

Unfortunately, George Will, and similar thinking republicans like Romney and Kasich, refused to run for the 2020 GOP nomination.

Its not a matter of "Being Given" air time but paying for it. Mr. Will can support Biden, but he shouldn't pretend that he isn't in favor of the Biden Platform since he refused to get his conservative types to run. Where was Mitt this primary season? Or Bush, or Kasich?

If they had something different to offer than Sleepy Joe, they had an opportunity to offer it. Mitt Romney is incredibly wealthy, and Jeb's friends are very well heeled as well. They had the money

I doubt it's about the platforms. It looks like it's about the men.

Trump has forced us to add a new minimum requirement for Presidents: That they can maintain a certain level of dignity, decency and stability.

So you don't think that Jeb or Mitt have the minimal level of "dignity , decency or stability" either?

Quite the opposite. The GOP didn't/doesn't care about that standard. Obviously.

The GOP ran Mitt in 2012, and Mr. Romney was a Pathetic Loser, barely put up a fight.

Mitt got cowed into showing his tax returns, and it earned him zero liberal support or respect. Actually, Romney's taxes showed that he was so patriotic that he didn't eve take all the deductions he was entitled to. Yet he was still ruined by it.

None of which has anything to do with what I said.

 

[dblack]

What views do I have that are not libertarian.

This topic will do.

You endlessly arguing for full socialist Marxists.

Still lying. Prove it. Quote it or STFU.

Well, you certainly proved my point on that you can't see what the Democrats are

Couldn't find anything, could you? -- and you won't because your claim that I support Democrats is made up. You're merely saying that because I don't support Trump.

 

[Lakhota]

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

In an interview with USA Today Washington bureau chief Susan Page for the Aspen Institute, Will went further than his 2016 non-endorsement of President Trump and said that he would vote for Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Will warned against Trump's nomination in 2016 but stopped short of endorsing his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, at the time.

"Who do you plan to vote for in November?" Page asked the columnist via Zoom.

"Biden," Will replied immediately.

Conservative columnist George Will says he’s voting for Biden

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

thehill.com

George Will on on MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell a few minutes ago. Lawrence welcomed him aboard, to which George replied - "Temporary loitering". Welcome aboard, George!

If he's voting for Biden, he's not a conservative....just sayin'

Funny. That's like saying none of the Lincoln Project members are not a conservative.

 

[kaz]

I would disagree that one is more aligned with corporate interests than the other. They both sunk in deep, once you look below the skin, as you put it. It just shows in different ways.

The first in the amount of money that flows from corporate interests in to coffers of both parties.

OK, that's a fair point. To clarify, I think the people in the Republican party have a lot more libertarian people in it than the Republicans actually elected to office. There are only a few libertarian minded elected Republicans. I have to agree with you on the party itself. There is little difference with the Democrats, they support big corporations not free markets.

The second is the whole idea of free trade and competition. While we are familiar with how the left affects free trade through government regulation, have you you looked at the affect the other side has? When conglomerates are allowed to grow so vast there IS no competition any more. Rather than a healthy competitive ecosystem, you have an elephant controlling the space, and a bunch of mice scurrying for crumbs. The elephant controls the trade and stifles or buys up the competition. You only have to look at how the giant media conglomerates have swallowed up all the smaller presses and most of our media (left and right) is in the hands of a few. Or look at the tech giants and Amazon and social media. Who owns it? Where is the strong competition? Why are anti-trust laws not enforced?

This isn't actually accurate. The reason that conglomerates reach the point of little competition is BECAUSE of government, not in spite of it. That's what all those campaign contributions are going to, buying influence. Free markets would mean they can fail, but government doesn't let them do that.

For example the 2008 housing bubble. Government caused the crisis by bullying corporations into making bad loans and then funding them with free government money. Then when the bubble burst, government bailed them out. It was the corporatists in both parties who did that. We who support free markets wouldn't have forced them to make bad loans or bailed them out when they did

Corporate interests have their hands deep in the pockets of both and they manipulate the political landscape to favor their sponsors.

Yes. Remember that when you make arguments like you did about "regulation" as if that's a good thing. Actually, "regulation" is how the government tilts the field in FAVOR of companies, not against them.

I don’t exactly agree, but likely because we differ as to the role of regulation. The housing bubble sounds like a good example of over regulation, but there also examples historically where no regulation allowed monopolies to stifle competition. You see this with the dairy industry for example, and remember the breakup of Ma Bell? When you have large corporate entities killing competition by either buying them out, or squeezing them out you don’t have competition. If you want competition, you need a balance between regulation and freedom.

You think the dairy industry and ma bell are ... under-regulation?

Dairy has massive government direct support with price support and government greatly restricts competition for dairy farmers both through tariffs and domestic dairy control.

And government by force removed ALL of Ma Bell's competition. They had none. That's free market?

Yes....Dairy does. But who really benefits? You have a few big Dairy entities, who have squeezed out the competition, and can then lobby the government for even better policies in their favor. The free market creates these giants, kills competition and government policies sustain that status quo And prevents new competition.

What did you have before there was any regulation, such as anti-trust laws? Huge monopolies developed. Don’t you think that is happening again? Do twitter and fb have any real competition? Who has lobbying power and provides large amounts of cash to campaign coffers in both parties? There is something with the system.

Without being codified by the government, monopolies are ultimately taken down. 10 of the original 13 dow transportation stocks were railroads. I think one or two of them are left. Is anyone left from the original down industrials? I think GE was the last.

As long as government doesn't make a monopoly a monopoly, then it will ultimately be taken down by more agile competition. Look at the airlines from like 20 years ago and there are like 3 left. Microsoft was totally dominant, but no longer is. Standard Oil was the greatest monopoly of the time a century plus ago, but how many of their oil fields are still the major oil fields of today?

Only government makes monopolies permanent

 

[kaz]

If he's voting for Biden, he's not a conservative....just sayin'

Funny. That's like saying none of the Lincoln Project members are not a conservative.

Most of the members of the Lincoln project are as fake of conservatives as you are as fake an Indian, pretendian

 

[kaz]

Well, you certainly proved my point on that you can't see what the Democrats are

Couldn't find anything, could you? -- and you won't because your claim that I support Democrats is made up. You're merely saying that because I don't support Trump.

I didn't say you "support" Democrats, I said you defend them. You do. You're constantly the first one in when a Democrat is criticized

 

[Meister]

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

In an interview with USA Today Washington bureau chief Susan Page for the Aspen Institute, Will went further than his 2016 non-endorsement of President Trump and said that he would vote for Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Will warned against Trump's nomination in 2016 but stopped short of endorsing his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, at the time.

"Who do you plan to vote for in November?" Page asked the columnist via Zoom.

"Biden," Will replied immediately.

Conservative columnist George Will says he’s voting for Biden

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

thehill.com

George Will on on MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell a few minutes ago. Lawrence welcomed him aboard, to which George replied - "Temporary loitering". Welcome aboard, George!

If he's voting for Biden, he's not a conservative....just sayin'

Funny. That's like saying none of the Lincoln Project members are not a conservative.

What? He's going to vote for the most liberal president ever, and be a conservative at the same time?
Not sure how a anyone can reconcile that, but I'm sure you will via spin.

 

[Polishprince]

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

In an interview with USA Today Washington bureau chief Susan Page for the Aspen Institute, Will went further than his 2016 non-endorsement of President Trump and said that he would vote for Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Will warned against Trump's nomination in 2016 but stopped short of endorsing his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, at the time.

"Who do you plan to vote for in November?" Page asked the columnist via Zoom.

"Biden," Will replied immediately.

Conservative columnist George Will says he’s voting for Biden

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

thehill.com

George Will on on MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell a few minutes ago. Lawrence welcomed him aboard, to which George replied - "Temporary loitering". Welcome aboard, George!

If he's voting for Biden, he's not a conservative....just sayin'

Funny. That's like saying none of the Lincoln Project members are not a conservative.

The LP not only is pushing for Sleepy Joe over Trump, they want the Republicans swept out of the Senate, lose the House again as well as the Supreme Court. That goes far beyond just being upset with The Trumpster. They want the total cancellation of the GOP.

 

[dblack]

You're constantly the first one in when a Democrat is criticized

Then it should be easy to find lots of examples. Go for it! (or, as previously mentioned, stop lying about it).

 

[Lakhota]

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

In an interview with USA Today Washington bureau chief Susan Page for the Aspen Institute, Will went further than his 2016 non-endorsement of President Trump and said that he would vote for Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Will warned against Trump's nomination in 2016 but stopped short of endorsing his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, at the time.

"Who do you plan to vote for in November?" Page asked the columnist via Zoom.

"Biden," Will replied immediately.

Conservative columnist George Will says he’s voting for Biden

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

thehill.com

George Will on on MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell a few minutes ago. Lawrence welcomed him aboard, to which George replied - "Temporary loitering". Welcome aboard, George!

If he's voting for Biden, he's not a conservative....just sayin'

Funny. That's like saying none of the Lincoln Project members are not a conservative.

What? He's going to vote for the most liberal president ever, and be a conservative at the same time?
Not sure how a anyone can reconcile that, but I'm sure you will via spin.

Yep, that should tell you how big a threat to American democracy many "respected" conservative Republicans see Trump as.

 

[kaz]

You're constantly the first one in when a Democrat is criticized

Then it should be easy to find lots of examples. Go for it! (or, as previously mentioned, stop lying about it).

I've pointed out repeatedly when you do it. Your not having a long term memory is on you

 

[Polishprince]

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

In an interview with USA Today Washington bureau chief Susan Page for the Aspen Institute, Will went further than his 2016 non-endorsement of President Trump and said that he would vote for Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Will warned against Trump's nomination in 2016 but stopped short of endorsing his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, at the time.

"Who do you plan to vote for in November?" Page asked the columnist via Zoom.

"Biden," Will replied immediately.

Conservative columnist George Will says he’s voting for Biden

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

thehill.com

George Will on on MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell a few minutes ago. Lawrence welcomed him aboard, to which George replied - "Temporary loitering". Welcome aboard, George!

If he's voting for Biden, he's not a conservative....just sayin'

Funny. That's like saying none of the Lincoln Project members are not a conservative.

What? He's going to vote for the most liberal president ever, and be a conservative at the same time?
Not sure how a anyone can reconcile that, but I'm sure you will via spin.

Yep, that should tell you how big a threat to American democracy many "respected" conservative Republicans see Trump as.

It isn't just Trump that these so called "respected conservatives" hate and fear.

The LP wants to not just defeat Donald J. Trump, but to sweep the Republicans out of Congress as well as the State houses.

 

[dblack]

You're constantly the first one in when a Democrat is criticized

Then it should be easy to find lots of examples. Go for it! (or, as previously mentioned, stop lying about it).

I've pointed out repeatedly when you do it. Your not having a long term memory is on you

Heh... couldn't find anything, could you?

 

[Lakhota]

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

In an interview with USA Today Washington bureau chief Susan Page for the Aspen Institute, Will went further than his 2016 non-endorsement of President Trump and said that he would vote for Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Will warned against Trump's nomination in 2016 but stopped short of endorsing his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, at the time.

"Who do you plan to vote for in November?" Page asked the columnist via Zoom.

"Biden," Will replied immediately.

Conservative columnist George Will says he’s voting for Biden

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

thehill.com

George Will on on MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell a few minutes ago. Lawrence welcomed him aboard, to which George replied - "Temporary loitering". Welcome aboard, George!

If he's voting for Biden, he's not a conservative....just sayin'

Funny. That's like saying none of the Lincoln Project members are not a conservative.

What? He's going to vote for the most liberal president ever, and be a conservative at the same time?
Not sure how a anyone can reconcile that, but I'm sure you will via spin.

Yep, that should tell you how big a threat to American democracy many "respected" conservative Republicans see Trump as.

It isn't just Trump that these so called "respected conservatives" hate and fear.

The LP wants to not just defeat Donald J. Trump, but to sweep the Republicans out of Congress as well as the State houses.

Yes they do - for good reason.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

In an interview with USA Today Washington bureau chief Susan Page for the Aspen Institute, Will went further than his 2016 non-endorsement of President Trump and said that he would vote for Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Will warned against Trump's nomination in 2016 but stopped short of endorsing his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, at the time.

"Who do you plan to vote for in November?" Page asked the columnist via Zoom.

"Biden," Will replied immediately.

Conservative columnist George Will says he’s voting for Biden

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

thehill.com

George Will on on MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell a few minutes ago. Lawrence welcomed him aboard, to which George replied - "Temporary loitering". Welcome aboard, George!

George Will has something personal against Donald Trump. It has nothing to do with policy. Obviously, Joe Biden would give the exact opposite of the policy a guy like George Will professes to support.

 

[kaz]

You're constantly the first one in when a Democrat is criticized

Then it should be easy to find lots of examples. Go for it! (or, as previously mentioned, stop lying about it).

I've pointed out repeatedly when you do it. Your not having a long term memory is on you

Heh... couldn't find anything, could you?

I'll continue to point it out when you do it. I'm not searching for links for you that you'd never acknowledge if I did

 

[Polishprince]

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

In an interview with USA Today Washington bureau chief Susan Page for the Aspen Institute, Will went further than his 2016 non-endorsement of President Trump and said that he would vote for Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Will warned against Trump's nomination in 2016 but stopped short of endorsing his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, at the time.

"Who do you plan to vote for in November?" Page asked the columnist via Zoom.

"Biden," Will replied immediately.

Conservative columnist George Will says he’s voting for Biden

Conservative Washington Post columnist George Will confirmed Tuesday that he would vote for former Vice President Joe Biden, his first vote for a Democrat for president.

thehill.com

George Will on on MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell a few minutes ago. Lawrence welcomed him aboard, to which George replied - "Temporary loitering". Welcome aboard, George!

If he's voting for Biden, he's not a conservative....just sayin'

Funny. That's like saying none of the Lincoln Project members are not a conservative.

What? He's going to vote for the most liberal president ever, and be a conservative at the same time?
Not sure how a anyone can reconcile that, but I'm sure you will via spin.

Yep, that should tell you how big a threat to American democracy many "respected" conservative Republicans see Trump as.

It isn't just Trump that these so called "respected conservatives" hate and fear.

The LP wants to not just defeat Donald J. Trump, but to sweep the Republicans out of Congress as well as the State houses.

Yes they do - for good reason.

What "good reason" (for a Conservative, remember) could there be for allowing Sleepy Joe un-checked power in Washington to do any damn thing he wants?

 

[dblack]

You're constantly the first one in when a Democrat is criticized

Then it should be easy to find lots of examples. Go for it! (or, as previously mentioned, stop lying about it).

I've pointed out repeatedly when you do it. Your not having a long term memory is on you

Heh... couldn't find anything, could you?

And you won't. You've been spinning this same horeshit claim since Trump was nominated. You're trying to pretend that, because I don't support Trump, I support Democrats. And Democrats make the same stupid mistake when they claim that, because I don't support their asshat, I'm actually supporting Trump. Libertarians get this shit every single election. We're used to it. Clearly, you're not.

 

[Nostra]

Lost me at George Will and conservative...

Not surprised, I wouldn't expect you to recognize a conservative.

What is conservative about him?

 

[BS Filter]

From the OP:

"Have you voted for a Democrat before?" she continued.

"Never," Will said, adding, "I've nothing against Democrats. But I've never had the opportunity to vote for one."

If he has nothing against Democrats then he isn't a Conservative. He's a Republican establishment elitist.