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A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.
Can you walk after pulling that stretch? LOL
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..

And perhaps YOU are even more ignorant about insurance!
A 60 year old PAYS a higher premium then a 20 year old BECAUSE of that reason.
BUT 20 year olds actually my statistics there were over 18 million under age 34 that had NO NEED for health insurance.
BUT the concept of Single payer health insurance is EVERYONE pays in regardless!
AND that is again the problem with it! ONE SIZE doesn't fit all!
If your state like Massachusetts wants to do it go for it! I'm all for the 50 laboratories. BUT don't force people in Massachusetts to buy a service that
is also a one size fits all for a person in Texas! Too many variables that a single payer program doesn't cover.
Also I know more about health insurance then you do for sure. Explain to me what the MLR means and how it is figured. Better yet do you have any idea what an
actuary does?
See the following!
never46millionuninsred.png
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..

And perhaps YOU are even more ignorant about insurance!
A 60 year old PAYS a higher premium then a 20 year old BECAUSE of that reason.
BUT 20 year olds actually my statistics there were over 18 million under age 34 that had NO NEED for health insurance.
BUT the concept of Single payer health insurance is EVERYONE pays in regardless!
AND that is again the problem with it! ONE SIZE doesn't fit all!
If your state like Massachusetts wants to do it go for it! I'm all for the 50 laboratories. BUT don't force people in Massachusetts to buy a service that
is also a one size fits all for a person in Texas! Too many variables that a single payer program doesn't cover.
Also I know more about health insurance then you do for sure. Explain to me what the MLR means and how it is figured. Better yet do you have any idea what an
actuary does?
See the following!
View attachment 129718

The problem is people who think they don't need insurance and then get really sick. Then they are unable to pay for treatment and costs go up for everyone.
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..


Liar...

No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010



.
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..

And perhaps YOU are even more ignorant about insurance!
A 60 year old PAYS a higher premium then a 20 year old BECAUSE of that reason.
BUT 20 year olds actually my statistics there were over 18 million under age 34 that had NO NEED for health insurance.
BUT the concept of Single payer health insurance is EVERYONE pays in regardless!
AND that is again the problem with it! ONE SIZE doesn't fit all!
If your state like Massachusetts wants to do it go for it! I'm all for the 50 laboratories. BUT don't force people in Massachusetts to buy a service that
is also a one size fits all for a person in Texas! Too many variables that a single payer program doesn't cover.
Also I know more about health insurance then you do for sure. Explain to me what the MLR means and how it is figured. Better yet do you have any idea what an
actuary does?
See the following!
View attachment 129718

The problem is people who think they don't need insurance and then get really sick. Then they are unable to pay for treatment and costs go up for everyone.

And tell me how big a problem is that? Where are your statistics for that unsubstantiated personal opinion?
Want me to help you???
A) First of all you need to determine the AGE of the person. Someone age 25 getting really sick? How many please?
B) FACT: nearly 50% of the ENTIRE US population have Employer Insurance:
C) Over 36% of entire population have Medicare/Medicaid/Other public insurance.
D) If you read the above TABLE you will see that there are truly less then 5 million people that needed coverage...but you ignored that table didn't you?

Health Insurance Coverage of the Total Population
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..


Liar...

No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010



.

Now that is truly DUMB! Calling me a liar THEN proving I was telling the truth! "No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010"
THAT was my whole point dummy! Under Obamacare the 60 year is paying for the 20 year contraceptive!!!
GEEZ how stupid you look when you write stuff like that!
THAT WAS THE POINT!
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..

And perhaps YOU are even more ignorant about insurance!
A 60 year old PAYS a higher premium then a 20 year old BECAUSE of that reason.
BUT 20 year olds actually my statistics there were over 18 million under age 34 that had NO NEED for health insurance.
BUT the concept of Single payer health insurance is EVERYONE pays in regardless!
AND that is again the problem with it! ONE SIZE doesn't fit all!
If your state like Massachusetts wants to do it go for it! I'm all for the 50 laboratories. BUT don't force people in Massachusetts to buy a service that
is also a one size fits all for a person in Texas! Too many variables that a single payer program doesn't cover.
Also I know more about health insurance then you do for sure. Explain to me what the MLR means and how it is figured. Better yet do you have any idea what an
actuary does?
See the following!
View attachment 129718

The problem is people who think they don't need insurance and then get really sick. Then they are unable to pay for treatment and costs go up for everyone.

And tell me how big a problem is that? Where are your statistics for that unsubstantiated personal opinion?
Want me to help you???
A) First of all you need to determine the AGE of the person. Someone age 25 getting really sick? How many please?
B) FACT: nearly 50% of the ENTIRE US population have Employer Insurance:
C) Over 36% of entire population have Medicare/Medicaid/Other public insurance.
D) If you read the above TABLE you will see that there are truly less then 5 million people that needed coverage...but you ignored that table didn't you?

Health Insurance Coverage of the Total Population

5 million is a big number given the costs of treating things like cancer.
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..


Liar...

No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010



.

Now that is truly DUMB! Calling me a liar THEN proving I was telling the truth! "No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010"
THAT was my whole point dummy! Under Obamacare the 60 year is paying for the 20 year contraceptive!!!
GEEZ how stupid you look when you write stuff like that!
THAT WAS THE POINT!



It was aimed at the post above me bulldog..he was the one lying.


.
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..


Liar...

No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010



.

Now that is truly DUMB! Calling me a liar THEN proving I was telling the truth! "No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010"
THAT was my whole point dummy! Under Obamacare the 60 year is paying for the 20 year contraceptive!!!
GEEZ how stupid you look when you write stuff like that!
THAT WAS THE POINT!

Wasn't he responding to bulldog genius?
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..


Liar...

No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010



.

Now that is truly DUMB! Calling me a liar THEN proving I was telling the truth! "No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010"
THAT was my whole point dummy! Under Obamacare the 60 year is paying for the 20 year contraceptive!!!
GEEZ how stupid you look when you write stuff like that!
THAT WAS THE POINT!



It was aimed at the post above me bulldog..he was the one lying.


.

I really apologize! Didn't see that and I was really out of place. Accept my apology OK???
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..

And perhaps YOU are even more ignorant about insurance!
A 60 year old PAYS a higher premium then a 20 year old BECAUSE of that reason.
BUT 20 year olds actually my statistics there were over 18 million under age 34 that had NO NEED for health insurance.
BUT the concept of Single payer health insurance is EVERYONE pays in regardless!
AND that is again the problem with it! ONE SIZE doesn't fit all!
If your state like Massachusetts wants to do it go for it! I'm all for the 50 laboratories. BUT don't force people in Massachusetts to buy a service that
is also a one size fits all for a person in Texas! Too many variables that a single payer program doesn't cover.
Also I know more about health insurance then you do for sure. Explain to me what the MLR means and how it is figured. Better yet do you have any idea what an
actuary does?
See the following!
View attachment 129718

Wrong. There might be over 18 million under 34 years old who have never filed an insurance claim, but that doesn't mean they don't need it. I have never personally used an auxiliary parachute when sky diving, or had my life saved by a smoke alarm, but that doesn't mean I don't need and want those things.
 
Biden always makes the alt right trolls here look silly when they criticize him. Always.
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..


Liar...

No insurance companies had to pay for contraceptives till 2010



.

The principal is the same, no matter what the benefit is. Which are you against, birth control, or insurance?
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..

And perhaps YOU are even more ignorant about insurance!
A 60 year old PAYS a higher premium then a 20 year old BECAUSE of that reason.
BUT 20 year olds actually my statistics there were over 18 million under age 34 that had NO NEED for health insurance.
BUT the concept of Single payer health insurance is EVERYONE pays in regardless!
AND that is again the problem with it! ONE SIZE doesn't fit all!
If your state like Massachusetts wants to do it go for it! I'm all for the 50 laboratories. BUT don't force people in Massachusetts to buy a service that
is also a one size fits all for a person in Texas! Too many variables that a single payer program doesn't cover.
Also I know more about health insurance then you do for sure. Explain to me what the MLR means and how it is figured. Better yet do you have any idea what an
actuary does?
See the following!
View attachment 129718

Wrong. There might be over 18 million under 34 years old who have never filed an insurance claim, but that doesn't mean they don't need it. I have never personally used an auxiliary parachute when sky diving, or had my life saved by a smoke alarm, but that doesn't mean I don't need and want those things.


It's not your choice is it , to force people to pay for other people's reckless and unhealthy lifestyles is it?

If you want to somke 4 packs a day and eat 12 pizzas a day that's your choice ..don't expect me to pay for it.

.
 
A Democrat political pundit said that what Biden said was very valid and that and this is the eye opening
statement she said "Democrats need to learn one size doesn't fit all"!!!
Amazing!
And then I read what Biden says...
Biden slams Democrats for silence on middle-class struggles
Former Vice President Joe Biden questioned the Democratic Party's strategy for targeting middle-class voters, suggesting Sunday that Democrats "haven't spoken enough to the fears and aspirations to the people we come from."
"Because of the negative campaign that [President Donald] Trump ran, how much did we hear about that guy making 50,000 bucks on an assembly line, [and] the woman — his wife — making $28,000 as a hostess?" Biden asked a crowd of 1,200 at a campaign rally here.
"They have $78,000, two kids, [are] living in a metropolitan area, and they can hardly make it," he said. "When was the last time you heard us talk about those people?"
Joe Biden slams Democrats for silence on one important issue

So here we have two staunch Democrats saying these people aren't being listened to.
DUH!!!

But my ears really pricked up when she said "one size doesn't fit all"!
HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Who is all in favor of SINGLE PAYER HEALTH SYSTEM?
ONE SIZE health insurance plan. You a 60 year old male would be paying as part of your "Single Payer" premiums the contraceptives for a 20 year old! Is that fair?
The 20 year old will be paying for the heart transplant for the 60 year old. Is that fair?
That's what Single payer is ..."one size fits all".
Contradictions abound in the liberal/progressive/uninformed world.

Perhaps you don't understand what insurance is, and always has been. 20 year olds have always paid for a 60 year old to have a heart transplant, and that 60 year old has always paid for contraceptives for a 20 year old. It's called spreading expense over a broader range of insurance customers. If you are opposed to insurance, that's fine, but you need to at least be honest about what it actually is and always has/will be..

And perhaps YOU are even more ignorant about insurance!
A 60 year old PAYS a higher premium then a 20 year old BECAUSE of that reason.
BUT 20 year olds actually my statistics there were over 18 million under age 34 that had NO NEED for health insurance.
BUT the concept of Single payer health insurance is EVERYONE pays in regardless!
AND that is again the problem with it! ONE SIZE doesn't fit all!
If your state like Massachusetts wants to do it go for it! I'm all for the 50 laboratories. BUT don't force people in Massachusetts to buy a service that
is also a one size fits all for a person in Texas! Too many variables that a single payer program doesn't cover.
Also I know more about health insurance then you do for sure. Explain to me what the MLR means and how it is figured. Better yet do you have any idea what an
actuary does?
See the following!
View attachment 129718

The problem is people who think they don't need insurance and then get really sick. Then they are unable to pay for treatment and costs go up for everyone.

And tell me how big a problem is that? Where are your statistics for that unsubstantiated personal opinion?
Want me to help you???
A) First of all you need to determine the AGE of the person. Someone age 25 getting really sick? How many please?
B) FACT: nearly 50% of the ENTIRE US population have Employer Insurance:
C) Over 36% of entire population have Medicare/Medicaid/Other public insurance.
D) If you read the above TABLE you will see that there are truly less then 5 million people that needed coverage...but you ignored that table didn't you?

Health Insurance Coverage of the Total Population

A) Doesn't take many without insurance showing up at the emergency room to run everybody's cost up.
B) More than 50% don't have Employer Insurance.
C) 64% of entire population don't have Medicare/Medicaid/Other public insurance.
D) Nothing in that chart shows that less than 100% need coverage of some kind.
E) You don't have insurance, MY healthcare costs go up.
F) I'm tired of paying for you and people like you.
 

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