Covid isn't killing me. The governments reaction to it is.

They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us
Was there something you wanted to do this year, that you did not get to do? "The government" made your life a living hell, or did you just hear how bad it was for other people? Only thing I missed out on was a couple of traveling vacations, which I did not skip for the government. I skipped because I did not want to take unnecessary risks moving to beach condos, or flying. Imagine, all that public misery and I didn't get to participate.
There has only been 2 years in my adult life where I could not put back the necessary winter nest egg required in my line of work. Obviously the first was a result of the 2008 crash. This winter is a DIRECT result of government mandates and the fear it put in the public. I was mid project when this shit started and the customer halted all work. To this day that project has not been finished. The 3 jobs on the schedule after that also canceled. Then after months of unnecessary shit downs I got to start back up only to have the unified government of KC shut shit down AGAIN. Now they are talking about yet more forced closures.

And just to come full circle I still have not recovered from the first shut down. Caught back up yes. Saved for the normal winter construction blues? Not a chance
I'm sorry man. That sucks. I am retired and in an area that masks, but has not been shut down much (why do you think we have been staying in top 10 on new infections and our hospital is going critical again) so for me life has gone on. I hear of this kind of stuff, but cannot look out in my own city and see it.
Come to Tennessee, Gramps. OK, we're diseased as shit, but not shutting down. I and others have trouble scheduling decent contractors as they are booked, busy and bouncing from jobsites to Lowes. Took my brother n law over 6 months to get the gutter guys out to put up gutters on his new shop, where he had to get the contractor for the shop itself from middle TN. Company sent me to KC for a national project. I didn't lose anything there. If you are a journeyman, may be time to go RV-ing and Tennesseeing.
RV you say? I "lost" mine
Hopefully not in Nashville (ha-ha). Seriously, as a millwork rep, I worked with contrators from Jackson, that loaded here and helped rebuild New Orleans after Katrina. More recently, I know of a couple of contractors that are not in the trade full time, but gypsie down to the gulf coast working on vacation condos before the main season begins of even while going on. People do it. It may suck (although have one buddy that loves, cause he likes to get around), the RV idea makes cost efficient without giving up home of record, as by upper middle age, lots of people somewhat tied to their town and kids and whatever. Just a thought if KC not improving any time soon. Good luck to ya. Do what ya gotta do.
I moved around the country for about 15 years chasing government contracts. I'm done with that shit.

I just want them to but the fuck out of our lives. Can you imagine the pain they would impose if we face a REAL LIFE THREATENING situation?

Scary......
Was it instituted where you are by Mayor of KC (Kansas or Missouri) or was it a state thing? I know there has been none by Federal Government.
 
99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
Being overly dramatic and still not have any facts? Our healthcare is already under stress and are considering whether or not to ration health care. Mobile hospitals have been re-deployed and they are renting refrigerated trucks for temporary morgue space. Only the right wing alleges the pandemic is a Hoax.
And if he had a friend who was literally scared to death...his friend would be dead. Yeah...there was some drama in the OP.
 
For months, these strange, power-mad robots have evinced zero indication they have any clue what it might feel like to be an actual human (with mouths to feed) suddenly placed under house arrest, forbidden from earning a living, stopped from pursuing activities which support his sense of identity, cut off from most (or all) social contact, fed reams of misinformation he knows is misinformation, and severed from a huge source of meaning in human life—namely, culture.

I’m not here arguing against the measures themselves (I will some other time). I am pointing out the inhuman indifference shown by the Lockdown Leviathans to the psychological, emotional, spiritual, and familial costs those measures have imposed, and continue to impose, upon their suffering subjects.
What the Lockdown Leviathans Don’t Get - American Greatness (amgreatness.com)
 
They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us
Was there something you wanted to do this year, that you did not get to do? "The government" made your life a living hell, or did you just hear how bad it was for other people? Only thing I missed out on was a couple of traveling vacations, which I did not skip for the government. I skipped because I did not want to take unnecessary risks moving to beach condos, or flying. Imagine, all that public misery and I didn't get to participate.
There has only been 2 years in my adult life where I could not put back the necessary winter nest egg required in my line of work. Obviously the first was a result of the 2008 crash. This winter is a DIRECT result of government mandates and the fear it put in the public. I was mid project when this shit started and the customer halted all work. To this day that project has not been finished. The 3 jobs on the schedule after that also canceled. Then after months of unnecessary shit downs I got to start back up only to have the unified government of KC shut shit down AGAIN. Now they are talking about yet more forced closures.

And just to come full circle I still have not recovered from the first shut down. Caught back up yes. Saved for the normal winter construction blues? Not a chance
I'm sorry man. That sucks. I am retired and in an area that masks, but has not been shut down much (why do you think we have been staying in top 10 on new infections and our hospital is going critical again) so for me life has gone on. I hear of this kind of stuff, but cannot look out in my own city and see it.
Come to Tennessee, Gramps. OK, we're diseased as shit, but not shutting down. I and others have trouble scheduling decent contractors as they are booked, busy and bouncing from jobsites to Lowes. Took my brother n law over 6 months to get the gutter guys out to put up gutters on his new shop, where he had to get the contractor for the shop itself from middle TN. Company sent me to KC for a national project. I didn't lose anything there. If you are a journeyman, may be time to go RV-ing and Tennesseeing.
RV you say? I "lost" mine
Hopefully not in Nashville (ha-ha). Seriously, as a millwork rep, I worked with contrators from Jackson, that loaded here and helped rebuild New Orleans after Katrina. More recently, I know of a couple of contractors that are not in the trade full time, but gypsie down to the gulf coast working on vacation condos before the main season begins of even while going on. People do it. It may suck (although have one buddy that loves, cause he likes to get around), the RV idea makes cost efficient without giving up home of record, as by upper middle age, lots of people somewhat tied to their town and kids and whatever. Just a thought if KC not improving any time soon. Good luck to ya. Do what ya gotta do.
I moved around the country for about 15 years chasing government contracts. I'm done with that shit.

I just want them to but the fuck out of our lives. Can you imagine the pain they would impose if we face a REAL LIFE THREATENING situation?

Scary......
Was it instituted where you are by Mayor of KC (Kansas or Missouri) or was it a state thing? I know there has been none by Federal Government.
Mayors and councils of all metro cities on both sides of the state line minus a couple.

It was SO BAD for a while that one of my suppliers who's showroom is the size of a JCPennys was only allowed 10 customers at a time and they were not allowed to wander away from their "escorts" (aka assigned salesman)

One of my suppliers said fuck it and permanently closed while another closed their showroom entirely and only allowed contractors in the warehouse (cause of course the lowely warehouse workers are expendable as compared to the blonde bimbos up front)
Keep in mind that all the while liquor stores,casinos and big box stores were open without restrictions.


Just truly tired of this business crippling bullshit.
 
We had a dumb rule for awhile that was called 10/10/10
10 people max
10% occupancy max
10 pm close

Edit: upon looking it is still partially in effect apparently in the downtown region.
 
They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us

So what are you prepared to do about it, Gramps? That is the real question everyone wants answered—but not necessarily with words.
I am an ex convict. I have to give an ID to buy bullets for my kids so what are my odds of getting a gun to defend my rights with?
My opportunities long passed me by because of my own mistakes.
I guess I could walk into home depot without a mask but that gets me fuck all of nothing.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from. The whole mask issue isn't really the hill to die on . . . at least not yet.
Honestly I don't even care about the mask bullshit. It's nothing more than a placebo to calm the nerves of the paranoid. So be it.
My problem is with the mass lock downs, the curfews and telling businesses to lay off 80% of their crew for safety/capacity reasons. While I don't run a restaurant I'm not so stupid as to think these decisions don't have a ripple effect on the entire economy.
We are at war.... In my opinion China is running the show and they're running most of our politicians. Lockdowns have nothing to do with the virus the lockdowns are direct Hit at the American economy in an effort to make it weaker. China cannot tackle us militarily yet. But they sure as hell can start with subterfuge in the economic sector.
 
They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us
Only killing 1% who catch covid, is killing 3.3 million people in the United states.

99% surviving this virus, is 1% of Americans not surviving....seems small, but when the 1% or 2% killed by this virus is 3.3 to 6.6 million American people dead from it.... It's not as small as you think.

And this isn't about being self serving, not about only being woried about oneself dying from it, but not wanting to be a part in killing your pastor, or neighbor's dad, or your own mom, or sister with asthma, or grandfather, or someone elses mom, or coworker, or old woman who scrubs the pots and pans in a school cafeteria.
 
They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us
Too fn bad It needs to kill a few 1000 of you scumbags and then maybe you'll get the point
 
They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us
Only killing 1% who catch covid, is killing 3.3 million people in the United states.

99% surviving this virus, is 1% of Americans not surviving....seems small, but when the 1% or 2% killed by this virus is 3.3 to 6.6 million American people dead from it.... It's not as small as you think.

And this isn't about being self serving, not about only being woried about oneself dying from it, but not wanting to be a part in killing your pastor, or neighbor's dad, or your own mom, or sister with asthma, or grandfather, or someone elses mom, or coworker, or old woman who scrubs the pots and pans in a school cafeteria.
Thats assuming everyone gets it which never happens
 
They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us
Only killing 1% who catch covid, is killing 3.3 million people in the United states.

99% surviving this virus, is 1% of Americans not surviving....seems small, but when the 1% or 2% killed by this virus is 3.3 to 6.6 million American people dead from it.... It's not as small as you think.

And this isn't about being self serving, not about only being woried about oneself dying from it, but not wanting to be a part in killing your pastor, or neighbor's dad, or your own mom, or sister with asthma, or grandfather, or someone elses mom, or coworker, or old woman who scrubs the pots and pans in a school cafeteria.
Thats assuming everyone gets it which never happens
yeah, true that it is assuming it is spread to everyone, eventually.
 
They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us
Too fn bad It needs to kill a few 1000 of you scumbags and then maybe you'll get the point
People die. Such is the thing we call life and the risks it entails. Did you quit driving because you might kill someone else? No? Didn't think so. Selfish bastard
 
They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us
Only killing 1% who catch covid, is killing 3.3 million people in the United states.

99% surviving this virus, is 1% of Americans not surviving....seems small, but when the 1% or 2% killed by this virus is 3.3 to 6.6 million American people dead from it.... It's not as small as you think.

And this isn't about being self serving, not about only being woried about oneself dying from it, but not wanting to be a part in killing your pastor, or neighbor's dad, or your own mom, or sister with asthma, or grandfather, or someone elses mom, or coworker, or old woman who scrubs the pots and pans in a school cafeteria.
Thats assuming everyone gets it which never happens
yeah, true that it is assuming it is spread to everyone, eventually.
Which never happens....nice scare tactic though.......how many have you killed
 
Latest news is oncologists expecting a tidal wave of cancer deaths due to denial of treatment cause covid........maybe you should apologize to them
 
People are manic right now. People I respect are cracking under the pressure.
One of my closest friends is literally scared to death to leave his house. Anytime his wife goes out I hear about how she put his life at risk.

IT'S FUCKING INSANE

He's a Biden voter. Guaranteed.
He was, but he is still my friend. Friendship transcends political ignorance

Yes sir. I have a few too.
 
How it will work:

1. Xiden proclaims an imperial 100 Day national absolute lockdown with penalties like confiscation of all property of those who dare protest.

2. Summer comes and the virus burns itself out coupled with effects from the vaccines - unless Xiden is clever enough to proclaim them ineffective and outlaws them.

3. Either way once the virus is gone Pelosi declares Xiden nuttier'n a tub of rocky road ice cream and proclaimex Xarris Presidentess.

4. Purchase order placed with Wuhan labs to keep the party going.
 
They have done a good job at putting the fear of God himself into people.

99%+ survivability and they have us locked down as if the Walking Dead were roaming the streets.
By this point we COULD have had herd immunity but instead we fucked around long enough to give the virus time to adapt and mutate.
Would more have died up to this point? Likely so
Would more have been saved in the long run by preventing suicides/overdoses and all the other social bullshit that the government has IMPOSED ON US? Likely so as well.

And now we're likely to get round 2 of the government mandates thanks to their own ineptitude.

And don't give me that herd immunity is not an answer bullshit because since the vaccine became a reality that's all they've talked about.

Instead we're gonna have a "Biden" response to it if the new strains make it here.

God help us
Only killing 1% who catch covid, is killing 3.3 million people in the United states.

99% surviving this virus, is 1% of Americans not surviving....seems small, but when the 1% or 2% killed by this virus is 3.3 to 6.6 million American people dead from it.... It's not as small as you think.

And this isn't about being self serving, not about only being woried about oneself dying from it, but not wanting to be a part in killing your pastor, or neighbor's dad, or your own mom, or sister with asthma, or grandfather, or someone elses mom, or coworker, or old woman who scrubs the pots and pans in a school cafeteria.
Thats assuming everyone gets it which never happens
yeah, true that it is assuming it is spread to everyone, eventually.
Which never happens....nice scare tactic though.......how many have you killed
60-70% of the population has to catch it, in order to achieve herd immunity, so that would be 2.3 million dead before it peters out.... if done naturally and not through vaccination.
 

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