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[WelfareQueen]

Those problems were doing quite well until the advent of Obama and his neo-Communists. The Left cannot survive without its race tool.

Those problems were doing quite well until the advent of Obama and his neo-Communists. The Left cannot survive without its race tool.

Well, Obama just went along, not saying much. That's bad enough, but it's the street-level Regressives who keep looking for every possible excuse to anger and divide. For political advantage, of course.

Racism remains an important issue. But the Regressives (particularly white Regressives) do everything they can to exacerbate the problem to the fullest.
.

"According to this argument, to discuss discrimination is to encourage black and brown folks to see themselves as perpetual targets of white racism.

...Those who bemoan the so-called victim mindset appear to believe that no one would think about racism were it not for the constant presence of liberals and leftists raising the issue. Second, the argument supposes that black and brown folk are so weak-willed that if they understood the obstacles in their way, they would crumble like cheap pie crust.

...This awareness is not due to liberals bringing it up, but rather the result of black and brown folks living with the mistreatment that stems from stereotypes and being exposed to them regularly. No, talking about racism isn’t the problem: racism itself is. To blame the conversation for the problem is like blaming your speedometer for the speeding ticket you just received.” - Tim Wise in his book 'Dear White America'

Virtually everyone is discriminated against. Are you left handed? Problem. Have any kind of disability? Problem. Are you stupid? Problem. Too old? Problem. Would you like me to go on?


Life is full of obstacles. Many of them are unfair. So cry me a fucking river. Most Americans are dead sick of hearing about how racist and terrible we are. Has someone been mean to you in your life because of your skin color? That's sad. Get the fuck over yourself and man up. Plenty of people deal with worse issues than skin color. They make do.....and so should you.

Start posting laws and polices made by non whites that have deprived whites of rights and opportunity throughout US history to include today. If you cannot do that you really don't have much to say. Most Americans disagree with you. Plus we are Americans too. Understand?

Female voting for one of about a million laws that hurt whites. Many still do. Look bud.....be angry....say your fucked....hate America. It does not affect me in the least.

Racist.....racist...racist!!!!! You go bro!!!

 

[MarcATL]

Always amazed by how important my posts and opinions are here. And by how being pragmatic & open is perceived as "vague" by both ends.

Okay, since this is so critical for you, I have a few minutes:.

Actually Mac1958 , you're really not that important. You just happen to be one of the few sensible people on here, so you'll get engagement from me.

We have never had a President nearly as equipped as Obama to address the race issue. Why? I'm stunned that I actually have to say this, but it's because he's an intelligent, articulate, pragmatic man who knows first hand that racism still exists in this country. And I don't know if you noticed, but he's a "black guy", too..

The fact that you included this, informs me that, to you, that was an important and determining factor why Obama was so well equipped to discuss race. So do you believe that blacks are the best qualified to discuss race in America in general?

You act as if it's totally obvious to note that he was equipped due to his intelligence, but yet you seem oblivious to realize that, Obama felt hamstrung to address race as well, for the obvious reason of politics. The Republicans would, and did, take every thing he said and turned it into something evil. Like everything, and he knew that going in. Your underlying point was that he should have dealt with it more carefully. Well, he actually did, it was the Republicans that took and and lit fire to that gas. For no other reason than politics. And you know this. After all, you witnessed it. Prime example...when Obama said "Trayvon Martin could have been my son." An absolutely non-racist statement, and factual statement, as Trayvon actually looks like what a son of Obama could look like, and yet they made it the most racist thing since "Birth of A Nation." Obama KNEW they would do this, hence he was reluctant to address race. To his detriment. Blacks aren't too pleased with him that he didn't do more on this matter either, but we understand why he didn't. He only addressed it when he was forced to. Again...you know this. Or, at least SHOULD know this.

And gee, yes, there was a problem with race in this country before he became President. There is still significant racism, regardless of how well-trained right wingers are to deny it. They see racism nowhere, and the Regressive Left sees it EVERYWHERE. He had the capacity to do far more than he did to address it head on, and he chose not to, no doubt for political expediency. So not only was it a terribly wasted opportunity, but he oversaw further decay as a result..

Your use of the term "regressive" kinda gives you away, but anyway, it is what it is. No, people on the left don't see it EVERYWHERE. It's just that it's THAT prevalent. Which as a white person, experiencing white privileged, you're pretty much blind to that fact. The rest of your statement, I covered already in my previous paragraph.

Obama's presidency to me is pretty much a wash. He was handed an absolute disaster of an economy and did the right thing by standing back and letting the Fed pour $4.5 trillion into markets to stabilize the disaster. He did what he could with Dubya's disasters in the Middle East. Health care was a disappointment, as I would have much preferred opening the already-existing Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system to all. And then there was his abdication on the race issue. Overall, meh. A helluva lot better than Dubya, but meh..

Well, this thread isn't about Obama's Presidency, but it's good to note.

There you go. I hope that helps. I don't require your opinion - we appear to have a very asymmetrical little relationship here - but do what you will. You're welcome.
.

I think you're being a drama queen with all the "ah gee", "shouldn't it be obvious?", "asymmetrical relationship" and "always amazed by how important my posts and opinions are here" talk, just relax, take a deep breath, and enjoy the forum. We're all here to engage w/one another and share and debate our opinions. That you're complaining when this is actually occurring, is mind-boggling to put it mildly.

 

[IM2]

Those problems were doing quite well until the advent of Obama and his neo-Communists. The Left cannot survive without its race tool.

Those problems were doing quite well until the advent of Obama and his neo-Communists. The Left cannot survive without its race tool.

Well, Obama just went along, not saying much. That's bad enough, but it's the street-level Regressives who keep looking for every possible excuse to anger and divide. For political advantage, of course.

Racism remains an important issue. But the Regressives (particularly white Regressives) do everything they can to exacerbate the problem to the fullest.
.

"According to this argument, to discuss discrimination is to encourage black and brown folks to see themselves as perpetual targets of white racism.

...Those who bemoan the so-called victim mindset appear to believe that no one would think about racism were it not for the constant presence of liberals and leftists raising the issue. Second, the argument supposes that black and brown folk are so weak-willed that if they understood the obstacles in their way, they would crumble like cheap pie crust.

...This awareness is not due to liberals bringing it up, but rather the result of black and brown folks living with the mistreatment that stems from stereotypes and being exposed to them regularly. No, talking about racism isn’t the problem: racism itself is. To blame the conversation for the problem is like blaming your speedometer for the speeding ticket you just received.” - Tim Wise in his book 'Dear White America'

Virtually everyone is discriminated against. Are you left handed? Problem. Have any kind of disability? Problem. Are you stupid? Problem. Too old? Problem. Would you like me to go on?


Life is full of obstacles. Many of them are unfair. So cry me a fucking river. Most Americans are dead sick of hearing about how racist and terrible we are. Has someone been mean to you in your life because of your skin color? That's sad. Get the fuck over yourself and man up. Plenty of people deal with worse issues than skin color. They make do.....and so should you.

Start posting laws and polices made by non whites that have deprived whites of rights and opportunity throughout US history to include today. If you cannot do that you really don't have much to say. Most Americans disagree with you. Plus we are Americans too. Understand?

Female voting for one of about a million laws that hurt whites. Many still do. Look bud.....be angry....say your fucked....hate American. It does not affect me in the least.

Racist.....racist...racist!!!!! You go bro!!!

As I thought. You can't post laws and policies made by non whites that were made to intentionally deny whites of anything. You're just running your mouth.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Indeed he did not. He re-elevated racial animosity to late 1960s levels.

Lemme guess, Obama elevated YOUR animosity towards the "black race"....right?

Only toward those serving the Democratic Party.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Well, Obama just went along, not saying much. That's bad enough, but it's the street-level Regressives who keep looking for every possible excuse to anger and divide. For political advantage, of course.

Racism remains an important issue. But the Regressives (particularly white Regressives) do everything they can to exacerbate the problem to the fullest.
.

"According to this argument, to discuss discrimination is to encourage black and brown folks to see themselves as perpetual targets of white racism.

...Those who bemoan the so-called victim mindset appear to believe that no one would think about racism were it not for the constant presence of liberals and leftists raising the issue. Second, the argument supposes that black and brown folk are so weak-willed that if they understood the obstacles in their way, they would crumble like cheap pie crust.

...This awareness is not due to liberals bringing it up, but rather the result of black and brown folks living with the mistreatment that stems from stereotypes and being exposed to them regularly. No, talking about racism isn’t the problem: racism itself is. To blame the conversation for the problem is like blaming your speedometer for the speeding ticket you just received.” - Tim Wise in his book 'Dear White America'

Virtually everyone is discriminated against. Are you left handed? Problem. Have any kind of disability? Problem. Are you stupid? Problem. Too old? Problem. Would you like me to go on?


Life is full of obstacles. Many of them are unfair. So cry me a fucking river. Most Americans are dead sick of hearing about how racist and terrible we are. Has someone been mean to you in your life because of your skin color? That's sad. Get the fuck over yourself and man up. Plenty of people deal with worse issues than skin color. They make do.....and so should you.

Start posting laws and polices made by non whites that have deprived whites of rights and opportunity throughout US history to include today. If you cannot do that you really don't have much to say. Most Americans disagree with you. Plus we are Americans too. Understand?

Female voting for one of about a million laws that hurt whites. Many still do. Look bud.....be angry....say your fucked....hate American. It does not affect me in the least.

Racist.....racist...racist!!!!! You go bro!!!

As I thought. You can't post laws and policies made by non whites that were made to intentionally deny whites of anything. You're just running your mouth.

Thanks man. White people are evil....America is evil. I think we're clear. Do I have the talking points? Good. Have a nice day.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Hate his guts because he actually acknowledges serious racial problems in the country huh?

I get

Ordering ANY two deadbeats from your store when they refuse to order a drink or something isn't racist except to a SJW pansey-ass like yourself it appears by your victim hood comment.

 

[IM2]

Well, Obama just went along, not saying much. That's bad enough, but it's the street-level Regressives who keep looking for every possible excuse to anger and divide. For political advantage, of course.

Racism remains an important issue. But the Regressives (particularly white Regressives) do everything they can to exacerbate the problem to the fullest.
.

Why was my name on this quote? I didn't say this. Here is the original post.

 

[IM2]

"According to this argument, to discuss discrimination is to encourage black and brown folks to see themselves as perpetual targets of white racism.

...Those who bemoan the so-called victim mindset appear to believe that no one would think about racism were it not for the constant presence of liberals and leftists raising the issue. Second, the argument supposes that black and brown folk are so weak-willed that if they understood the obstacles in their way, they would crumble like cheap pie crust.

...This awareness is not due to liberals bringing it up, but rather the result of black and brown folks living with the mistreatment that stems from stereotypes and being exposed to them regularly. No, talking about racism isn’t the problem: racism itself is. To blame the conversation for the problem is like blaming your speedometer for the speeding ticket you just received.” - Tim Wise in his book 'Dear White America'

Virtually everyone is discriminated against. Are you left handed? Problem. Have any kind of disability? Problem. Are you stupid? Problem. Too old? Problem. Would you like me to go on?


Life is full of obstacles. Many of them are unfair. So cry me a fucking river. Most Americans are dead sick of hearing about how racist and terrible we are. Has someone been mean to you in your life because of your skin color? That's sad. Get the fuck over yourself and man up. Plenty of people deal with worse issues than skin color. They make do.....and so should you.

Start posting laws and polices made by non whites that have deprived whites of rights and opportunity throughout US history to include today. If you cannot do that you really don't have much to say. Most Americans disagree with you. Plus we are Americans too. Understand?

Female voting for one of about a million laws that hurt whites. Many still do. Look bud.....be angry....say your fucked....hate American. It does not affect me in the least.

Racist.....racist...racist!!!!! You go bro!!!

As I thought. You can't post laws and policies made by non whites that were made to intentionally deny whites of anything. You're just running your mouth.

Thanks man. White people are evil....America is evil. I think we're clear. Do I have the talking points? Good. Have a nice day.

Too bad I didn't say that. You just can't show anything that supports your comments so you drop down to default position and start whining.

 

[MarcATL]

Sure! Off the top of my pointy little head:

1. An annual Presidential speech on race, in which he outlined where he perceived each end of the argument could clean their own house, where things have improved, where they have declined, what we could do during the next 12 months. Smaller speeches along the way with updates and examples of progress.

2. A twice-annual Presidential Council on Race, bringing together leaders from all American walks of life, from politics to art, from sports to entertainment. No cameras, no preening. The expectation of each Council is a list of specific areas on which we can all agree, and specific issues that still need to be addressed with ideas on how to address them, supported by both "sides".

You're welcome. Again. Meeting time, I'll answer further questions later.
.

Sounds good, but tell me, what do you think the Republicans would have did/said about Obama doing those things?

I want you to stop, think, and be totally honest here.

 

[MarcATL]

Lemme guess, Obama elevated YOUR animosity towards the "black race"....right?

Only toward those serving the Democratic Party.

So basically...YES, correct?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Hate his guts because he actually acknowledges serious racial problems in the country huh?

I get it.

Yes, we do have serious racial problems.

There are far too many people like yourself who use skin color as an excuse for bad behavior.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Lemme guess, Obama elevated YOUR animosity towards the "black race"....right?

Only toward those serving the Democratic Party.

So basically...YES, correct?

No, incorrect. The Democratic Party is not a race, though I'm sure they would like to be considered as such.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Those problems were doing quite well until the advent of Obama and his neo-Communists. The Left cannot survive without its race tool.

Those problems were doing quite well until the advent of Obama and his neo-Communists. The Left cannot survive without its race tool.

Well, Obama just went along, not saying much. That's bad enough, but it's the street-level Regressives who keep looking for every possible excuse to anger and divide. For political advantage, of course.

Racism remains an important issue. But the Regressives (particularly white Regressives) do everything they can to exacerbate the problem to the fullest.
.

"According to this argument, to discuss discrimination is to encourage black and brown folks to see themselves as perpetual targets of white racism.

...Those who bemoan the so-called victim mindset appear to believe that no one would think about racism were it not for the constant presence of liberals and leftists raising the issue. Second, the argument supposes that black and brown folk are so weak-willed that if they understood the obstacles in their way, they would crumble like cheap pie crust.

...This awareness is not due to liberals bringing it up, but rather the result of black and brown folks living with the mistreatment that stems from stereotypes and being exposed to them regularly. No, talking about racism isn’t the problem: racism itself is. To blame the conversation for the problem is like blaming your speedometer for the speeding ticket you just received.” - Tim Wise in his book 'Dear White America'

. The PROBLEM which makes further progress impossible is that your side believes half the country is racist, particularly Trump voters. That is patent bullshit! Anybody espousing that viewpoint isn't interested in reconciliation. So fuck off until then.

 

[MarcATL]

No, incorrect. The Democratic Party is not a race, though I'm sure they would like to be considered as such.

Dumb, dumb...you just stated, "only to those serving IN the Democratic Party."

So you were referring to blacks there.

And you were responding to my question about Obama making YOU feel increased animosity towards them.

Don't try to back-track now.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

No, incorrect. The Democratic Party is not a race, though I'm sure they would like to be considered as such.

Dumb, dumb...you just stated, "only to those serving IN the Democratic Party."

So you were referring to blacks there.

And you were responding to my question about Obama making YOU feel increased animosity towards them.

Don't try to back-track now.

Wrong. Try reading the English response again.

 

[dannyboys]

Good work Schultz! Invite the homeless to move into Starbucks then leave the company.

 

[IM2]

Always amazed by how important my posts and opinions are here. And by how being pragmatic & open is perceived as "vague" by both ends.

Okay, since this is so critical for you, I have a few minutes:.

Actually Mac1958 , you're really not that important. You just happen to be one of the few sensible people on here, so you'll get engagement from me.

We have never had a President nearly as equipped as Obama to address the race issue. Why? I'm stunned that I actually have to say this, but it's because he's an intelligent, articulate, pragmatic man who knows first hand that racism still exists in this country. And I don't know if you noticed, but he's a "black guy", too..

The fact that you included this, informs me that, to you, that was an important and determining factor why Obama was so well equipped to discuss race. So do you believe that blacks are the best qualified to discuss race in America in general?

You act as if it's totally obvious to note that he was equipped due to his intelligence, but yet you seem oblivious to realize that, Obama felt hamstrung to address race as well, for the obvious reason of politics. The Republicans would, and did, take every thing he said and turned it into something evil. Like everything, and he knew that going in. Your underlying point was that he should have dealt with it more carefully. Well, he actually did, it was the Republicans that took and and lit fire to that gas. For no other reason than politics. And you know this. After all, you witnessed it. Prime example...when Obama said "Trayvon Martin could have been my son." An absolutely non-racist statement, and factual statement, as Trayvon actually looks like what a son of Obama could look like, and yet they made it the most racist thing since "Birth of A Nation." Obama KNEW they would do this, hence he was reluctant to address race. To his detriment. Blacks aren't too pleased with him that he didn't do more on this matter either, but we understand why he didn't. He only addressed it when he was forced to. Again...you know this. Or, at least SHOULD know this.

And gee, yes, there was a problem with race in this country before he became President. There is still significant racism, regardless of how well-trained right wingers are to deny it. They see racism nowhere, and the Regressive Left sees it EVERYWHERE. He had the capacity to do far more than he did to address it head on, and he chose not to, no doubt for political expediency. So not only was it a terribly wasted opportunity, but he oversaw further decay as a result..

Your use of the term "regressive" kinda gives you away, but anyway, it is what it is. No, people on the left don't see it EVERYWHERE. It's just that it's THAT prevalent. Which as a white person, experiencing white privileged, you're pretty much blind to that fact. The rest of your statement, I covered already in my previous paragraph.

Obama's presidency to me is pretty much a wash. He was handed an absolute disaster of an economy and did the right thing by standing back and letting the Fed pour $4.5 trillion into markets to stabilize the disaster. He did what he could with Dubya's disasters in the Middle East. Health care was a disappointment, as I would have much preferred opening the already-existing Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system to all. And then there was his abdication on the race issue. Overall, meh. A helluva lot better than Dubya, but meh..

Well, this thread isn't about Obama's Presidency, but it's good to note.

There you go. I hope that helps. I don't require your opinion - we appear to have a very asymmetrical little relationship here - but do what you will. You're welcome.
.

I think you're being a drama queen with all the "ah gee", "shouldn't it be obvious?", "asymmetrical relationship" and "always amazed by how important my posts and opinions are here" talk, just relax, take a deep breath, and enjoy the forum. We're all here to engage w/one another and share and debate our opinions. That you're complaining when this is actually occurring, is mind-boggling to put it mildly.

And just like so many other things pertaining to race whites select what they want to remember. Had Obama took a strong pro black stance they would have found some reason to impeach him, and he definitely wouldn't have gotten a second term. So many whites like these guys were the first to proclaim that Obama is the president of the United States and not just for blacks. So now they've got their white rights president and he can be the president for whites and not the United States.

And the real bitch about this is how conservative republicans/right wing run off at the mouth talking about what Obama didn't do for blacks knowing their racist asses were not about to let Obama even try.

 

[MarcATL]

Yes, we do have serious racial problems.

There are far too many people like yourself who use skin color as an excuse for bad behavior.

You're living in a fantasy world bub. Please point out where you've seen me, or any of my fellow black brothers/sisters on this site doing any such thing.

With that said, I think you actually have it in reverse. To wit, if Obama had done one TENTH of what Trump has been and is currently doing, the Republicans would have already drawn up impeachment papers, and you would have been right there along with them in the lynch mob screaming "IMPEACH HIM! IMPEACH HIM!"

But far to many people like yourself use skin color as an excuse for bad behavior, so you continue to excuse 45's bad behavior.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The PROBLEM which makes further progress impossible is that your side believes half the country is racist, particularly Trump voters. That is patent bullshit! Anybody espousing that viewpoint isn't interested in reconciliation. So fuck off until then.

Political correctness is nothing but the institutionalization of utter hypocrisy. If a person is white, their every word will be scrutinized for any trace of racism, even if imaginary. If a person is black, their utter hostility and hatred towards whites will be ignored, justified and explained away.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Yes, we do have serious racial problems.

There are far too many people like yourself who use skin color as an excuse for bad behavior.

You're living in a fantasy world bub. Please point out where you've seen me, or any of my fellow black brothers/sisters on this site doing any such thing.

With that said, I think you actually have it in reverse. To wit, if Obama had down one TENTH of what Trump has been and is currently doing, the Republicans would have already drawn up impeachment papers, and you would have been right there along with them in the lynch mob screaming "IMPEACH! IMPEACH!"

But far to many people like yourself use skin color as an excuse for bad behavior, so you continue to excuse 45's bad behavior.

What would you do without your crutch, Marc?

Taking responsibility for your own actions must terrify you.