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Nonsense,you are avoiding strong evidence for a global flood for what reason ?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sD_7rxYoZY]Noah's Flood - debunked (Part 1) - YouTube[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfSvktyxVYA]Noah's Flood debunked (Part 2) - YouTube[/ame]

Your debunker can't debunk the word of God that explains the global flood and can be confirmed through evidence.

Fail as usual.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGeULHljDn8]Startling Evidence That Noah's Flood Really Happened - YouTube[/ame]


Age of the earth.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvyuNxlovE&feature=related]Scientific Evidences For a Young Earth - Dr. Thomas Kindell - YouTube[/ame]
really! shit for brains HE already did.....
what you claim to be evdence is not just specious religious conjecture!

your belief in god is not evidence of any thing but your belief.
 
Actually, there is nothing about amino acids that would cause a person to presume a hierarchy of gods and designers of gods.

What do superstitions, fears of the unknown and willful ignorance have in common?

I have told you this before out of all the many amino acids that exist there are only certain types that combine to form proteins even though the other amino acids could combine.

Look at this complexity and learn something. Chance would have to be a miracle. So since I spent much time in my own words explaining this to you here I will give you an article to respond to.

Left-handed Proteins
Let us now examine in detail why the evolutionist scenario regarding the formation of proteins is impossible.

Even the correct sequence of the right amino acids is still not enough for the formation of a functional protein molecule. In addition to these requirements, each of the 20 different types of amino acids present in the composition of proteins must be left-handed. There are two different types of amino acids-as of all organic molecules-called "left-handed" and "right-handed." The difference between them is the mirror-symmetry between their three dimensional structures, which is similar to that of a person's right and left hands.

The same protein's left- (L) and right- (D) handed isomers. The proteins in living creatures consist only of left-handed amino acids.

Amino acids of either of these two types can easily bond with one another. But one astonishing fact that has been revealed by research is that all the proteins in plants and animals on this planet, from the simplest organism to the most complex, are made up of left-handed amino acids. If even a single right-handed amino acid gets attached to the structure of a protein, the protein is rendered useless. In a series of experiments, surprisingly, bacteria that were exposed to right-handed amino acids immediately destroyed them. In some cases, they produced usable left-handed amino acids from the fractured components.

Let us for an instant suppose that life came about by chance as evolutionists claim it did. In this case, the right- and left-handed amino acids that were generated by chance should be present in roughly equal proportions in nature. Therefore, all living things should have both right- and left-handed amino acids in their constitution, because chemically it is possible for amino acids of both types to combine with each other. However, as we know, in the real world the proteins existing in all living organisms are made up only of left-handed amino acids.

The question of how proteins can pick out only the left-handed ones from among all amino acids, and how not even a single right-handed amino acid gets involved in the life process, is a problem that still baffles evolutionists. Such a specific and conscious selection constitutes one of the greatest impasses facing the theory of evolution.

Moreover, this characteristic of proteins makes the problem facing evolutionists with respect to "chance" even worse. In order for a "meaningful" protein to be generated, it is not enough for the amino acids to be present in a particular number and sequence, and to be combined together in the right three-dimensional design. Additionally, all these amino acids have to be left-handed: not even one of them can be right-handed. Yet there is no natural selection mechanism which can identify that a right-handed amino acid has been added to the sequence and recognize that it must therefore be removed from the chain. This situation once more eliminates for good the possibility of coincidence and chance.

The Britannica Science Encyclopaedia, which is an outspoken defender of evolution, states that the amino acids of all living organisms on earth, and the building blocks of complex polymers such as proteins, have the same left-handed asymmetry. It adds that this is tantamount to tossing a coin a million times and always getting heads. The same encyclopaedia states that it is impossible to understand why molecules become left-handed or right-handed, and that this choice is fascinatingly related to the origin of life on earth.248

If a coin always turns up heads when tossed a million times, is it more logical to attribute that to chance, or else to accept that there is conscious intervention going on? The answer should be obvious. However, obvious though it may be, evolutionists still take refuge in coincidence, simply because they do not want to accept the existence of conscious intervention.

A situation similar to the left-handedness of amino acids also exists with respect to nucleotides, the smallest units of the nucleic acids, DNA and RNA. In contrast to proteins, in which only left-handed amino acids are chosen, in the case of the nucleic acids, the preferred forms of their nucleotide components are always right-handed. This is another fact that can never be explained by chance.

In conclusion, it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by the probabilities we have examined that the origin of life cannot be explained by chance. If we attempt to calculate the probability of an average-sized protein consisting of 400 amino acids being selected only from left-handed amino acids, we come up with a probability of 1 in 2400, or 10120. Just for a comparison, let us remember that the number of electrons in the universe is estimated at 1079, which although vast, is a much smaller number. The probability of these amino acids forming the required sequence and functional form would generate much larger numbers. If we add these probabilities to each other, and if we go on to work out the probabilities of even higher numbers and types of proteins, the calculations become inconceivable.



Darwinism Refuted.com

Harun Yahya. Why do you waste bandwidth with this nonsense?

Please go away.

Now if you only understood what was said in this article. This real undisputed evidence now that is evidence of a process being guided. This is evidence of design.

Can you explain how only left handed amino acids combine to form proteins in cells ? Which in turn form life on earth.

Now look at your side try to avoid the problem with conjecture filled explanations. This is indeed a problem for your side to explain.



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Sunday, May 04, 2008


The amino acid chirality mystery



If the analysis here is correct, it solves one of the more puzzling mysteries of life on Earth – namely, the fact that all 20 amino acids found in biological proteins are "left-handed".

Meteorites Delivered The 'Seeds' Of Earth's Left-hand Life, Experts Argue

In a report at the 235th national meeting of the American Chemical Society, Ronald Breslow, Ph.D., University Professor, Columbia University, and former ACS President, described how our amino acid signature came from outer space.

Chains of amino acids make up the protein found in people, plants, and all other forms of life on Earth. There are two orientations of amino acids, left and right, which mirror each other in the same way your hands do. This is known as "chirality." In order for life to arise, proteins must contain only one chiral form of amino acids, left or right, Breslow noted.

"If you mix up chirality, a protein's properties change enormously. Life couldn't operate with just random mixtures of stuff," he said.

Recall that a carbon atom can form up to four bonds with other atoms. (Sometimes there are 2 or more bonds with the same atom, such as a double bond to another carbon atom.)

You can imagine these bonds arranged in a tetrahedral shape, that is, from a central carbon atom in the direction of the 4 vertices of a tetrahedron. In an amino acid, three of the bonds are occupied by a hydrogen atom, an amino group (NH2), and a carboxyl group (COOH). The remaining bond is occupied by a fourth group, which is variable (but there are only 20 possibilities that normally occur in Earthly biology) and determines the specific amino acid. The simplest amino acid is glycine, in which the fourth bond is occupied by a single hydrogen atom.

If you think of the amino acid as a tetrahedron, with the carboxyl group at the top, the other three components are arranged around the three bottom vertices. In glycine, two of those positions will be hydrogen atoms. But in all other amino acids, there are two different orders in which the distinct components can be arranged. Think of the tetrahedron's axis running from the central carbon atom to the top. If you look down that axis towards the base of the tetrahedron, then the hydrogen atom will be in either the clockwise or counterclockwise direction from the amino group. The latter is (by convention) called the left-handed (L) version, and the former is called the right-handed (R) version.

A protein is a series of amino acids tied together by peptide bonds, which form between the amino group of one amino acid and the carboxyl group of the other (with an H2O molecule removed, since an H pairs with an OH). In biological proteins such bonds form only between amino acids of the same chirality (both R or both L). So all proteins must consist only of L or R amino acids. As it happens, only the L type of protein occurs in nature on Earth. Presumably that is because at some time back when life was first developing, L amino acids significantly outnumbered R amino acids, and hence L proteins predominated over R proteins.

So the mystery is reduced to that of why at some point in time there were many more L amino acids than the R form. It has been shown that amino acids can form spontaneously from inorganic materias under some conditions (the Miller-Urey experiments demonstrated this.) However, one would expect equal amounts of R and L amino acids under such circumstances.

But there's another way out, because we know that in fact amino acids can form in interstellar space, since they were found in parts of the Murchison meteorite (and later others) that were uncontaminated with Earthly material. Furthermore, there's one definite way that amino acids which existed originally in an equal mixture of L and R forms on a chunk of rock hurtling through space could have their proportion tilted in one direction or the other:

These amino acids "seeds" formed in interstellar space, possibly on asteroids as they careened through space. At the outset, they have equal amounts of left and right-handed amino acids. But as these rocks soar past neutron stars, their light rays trigger the selective destruction of one form of amino acid. The stars emit circularly polarized light--in one direction, its rays are polarized to the right. 180 degrees in the other direction, the star emits left-polarized light.

All earthbound meteors catch an excess of one of the two polarized rays. Breslow said that previous experiments confirmed that circularly polarized light selectively destroys one chiral form of amino acids over the other. The end result is a five to ten percent excess of one form, in this case, L-amino acids. Evidence of this left-handed excess was found on the surfaces of these meteorites, which have crashed into Earth even within the last hundred years, landing in Australia and Tennessee.

So, one asks, is it possible that this imbalance of R and L amino acids was transferred from a meteorite to prebiotic Earth? In a series of experiments Breslow confirmed that this could happen:

Breslow simulated what occurred after the dust settled following a meteor bombardment, when the amino acids on the meteor mixed with the primordial soup. Under "credible prebiotic conditions"-- desert-like temperatures and a little bit of water -- he exposed amino acid chemical precursors to those amino acids found on meteorites.

Breslow and Columbia chemistry grad student Mindy Levine found that these cosmic amino acids could directly transfer their chirality to simple amino acids found in living things. Thus far, Breslow's team is the first to demonstrate that this kind of handedness transfer is possible under these conditions.

On the prebiotic Earth, this transfer left a slight excess of left-handed amino acids, Breslow said. His next experiment replicated the chemistry that led to the amplification and eventual dominance of left-handed amino acids.

That's where things stand now. We have as yet no way of knowing whether this is the scenario that actually occurred. But it is the most credible scenario yet devised to explain the otherwise astonishing fact that essentially all life on Earth uses only left-handed amino acids.




Science and Reason: The amino acid chirality mystery

You can have all right handed or left amino acids but you can;'t have a mixture that my friend is by design.

:lol: life began from amino acids found in meteorites from space. Talk about imagination,what would happen to the meteorite that collides with our planet ? If the amino acids were found in the meteorite how can they be released without being destroyed.

They need to lay off of the drugs.
 

Your debunker can't debunk the word of God that explains the global flood and can be confirmed through evidence.

Fail as usual.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGeULHljDn8]Startling Evidence That Noah's Flood Really Happened - YouTube[/ame]


Age of the earth.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvyuNxlovE&feature=related]Scientific Evidences For a Young Earth - Dr. Thomas Kindell - YouTube[/ame]
really! shit for brains HE already did.....
what you claim to be evdence is not just specious religious conjecture!

your belief in god is not evidence of any thing but your belief.

Well lets see if you can discuss amino acid chirality unlike hollie.

Lert's talk amino acids.
 
No they havn't.

Read the facts and see how this guy admits the fossil record is not even close to complete but we knew that right. So the fossil record is based on conjecture.

The Fossil Record

I would certainly define this as a slow transition.

http://www.macroevolution.net/human-evolution-chart-1.html#human-evolution-chart
Human Evolution Chart (Sec. 2) – Online Biology Dictionary

May I ask if you also believe in Noah's Ark to it fullest? If so, how do you explain how the animals could all fit in the Ark and how they could have been fed, bathed, have their waste removed, and have the property temperature for each specific animal.

Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

If everything slowly evolved over millions and billions of years where are these transitional fossils. Why are these that evolved from one group to another group not still arond but the ones they evolved from are still here ? I mean the explanation given is the better adapted transitional organisms pass on their traits through natural selection.

If you are not willing to put your beliefs to the test a person can be mislead. That is why many evolutionist and ex atheist have done and have become believers because the evidence better supports a designer.
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1.Two (Genesis 6:19-20) - "And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20Of the birds after their kind, and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive."
2.Seven (Genesis 7:2-3) - "You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female; 3also of the birds of the sky, by sevens, male and female, to keep offspring alive on the face of all the earth."
 
I would certainly define this as a slow transition.

http://www.macroevolution.net/human-evolution-chart-1.html#human-evolution-chart
Human Evolution Chart (Sec. 2) – Online Biology Dictionary

May I ask if you also believe in Noah's Ark to it fullest? If so, how do you explain how the animals could all fit in the Ark and how they could have been fed, bathed, have their waste removed, and have the property temperature for each specific animal.

Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

If everything slowly evolved over millions and billions of years where are these transitional fossils. Why are these that evolved from one group to another group not still arond but the ones they evolved from are still here ? I mean the explanation given is the better adapted transitional organisms pass on their traits through natural selection.

If you are not willing to put your beliefs to the test a person can be mislead. That is why many evolutionist and ex atheist have done and have become believers because the evidence better supports a designer.
Bullshit-5.jpg














6euqhjs.jpg


1.Two (Genesis 6:19-20) - "And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20Of the birds after their kind, and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive."
2.Seven (Genesis 7:2-3) - "You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female; 3also of the birds of the sky, by sevens, male and female, to keep offspring alive on the face of all the earth."

Well hello hollie.:lol:
 
Why would I prove something wrong you can't produce ? :lol:
days later and still no proof .

You can't offer anything but a fossil of a creature, your evidence is based on imagination.
are you a silly ignorant fuck all the time or just on line?
the fossils prove whales had legs nothing imaginary about it.
ok...now you show me moses' or jesus's remains.. hell I'd even settle for a Mayan burial with a guy next to his pet velociraptor..
even easier point out the place where all the rock and dirt from the 5min excavation of the grand canyon went!

btw you've contradicted yourself again
 
Your debunker can't debunk the word of God that explains the global flood and can be confirmed through evidence.

Fail as usual.

Startling Evidence That Noah's Flood Really Happened - YouTube


Age of the earth.

Scientific Evidences For a Young Earth - Dr. Thomas Kindell - YouTube
really! shit for brains HE already did.....
what you claim to be evdence is not just specious religious conjecture!

your belief in god is not evidence of any thing but your belief.

Well lets see if you can discuss amino acid chirality unlike hollie.

Lert's talk amino acids.

What discussion is there of amino acids?

You copied and pasted volumes of material from one of the premiere snake oil salesman of the (islamic) creationist crowd.

Bully for you.
 
Your debunker can't debunk the word of God that explains the global flood and can be confirmed through evidence.

Fail as usual.

Startling Evidence That Noah's Flood Really Happened - YouTube


Age of the earth.

Scientific Evidences For a Young Earth - Dr. Thomas Kindell - YouTube
really! shit for brains HE already did.....
what you claim to be evdence is not just specious religious conjecture!

your belief in god is not evidence of any thing but your belief.

Well lets see if you can discuss amino acid chirality unlike hollie.

Lert's talk amino acids.
no need to it's not evidence of a god. you have to prove god exsits before any thing you say is proof is valid. get it.
 
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Now if you only understood what was said in this article. This real undisputed evidence now that is evidence of a process being guided. This is evidence of design.

Can you explain how only left handed amino acids combine to form proteins in cells ? Which in turn form life on earth.

Now look at your side try to avoid the problem with conjecture filled explanations. This is indeed a problem for your side to explain.
What is the problem?




You can have all right handed or left amino acids but you can;'t have a mixture that my friend is by design.

:lol: life began from amino acids found in meteorites from space. Talk about imagination,what would happen to the meteorite that collides with our planet ? If the amino acids were found in the meteorite how can they be released without being destroyed.

They need to lay off of the drugs.

You understood nothing of the article.
 
Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

If everything slowly evolved over millions and billions of years where are these transitional fossils. Why are these that evolved from one group to another group not still arond but the ones they evolved from are still here ? I mean the explanation given is the better adapted transitional organisms pass on their traits through natural selection.

If you are not willing to put your beliefs to the test a person can be mislead. That is why many evolutionist and ex atheist have done and have become believers because the evidence better supports a designer.
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1.Two (Genesis 6:19-20) - "And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20Of the birds after their kind, and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive."
2.Seven (Genesis 7:2-3) - "You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female; 3also of the birds of the sky, by sevens, male and female, to keep offspring alive on the face of all the earth."

Well hello hollie.:lol:
keep dodging you lying piece of shit!
not even enough integrity to admit it !
 
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1.Two (Genesis 6:19-20) - "And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20Of the birds after their kind, and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive."
2.Seven (Genesis 7:2-3) - "You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female; 3also of the birds of the sky, by sevens, male and female, to keep offspring alive on the face of all the earth."

Well hello hollie.:lol:
keep dodging you lying piece of shit!
not even enough integrity to admit it !
I've come to expect that if whackadoodle is typing, he's lying.
 
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1.Two (Genesis 6:19-20) - "And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20Of the birds after their kind, and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive."
2.Seven (Genesis 7:2-3) - "You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female; 3also of the birds of the sky, by sevens, male and female, to keep offspring alive on the face of all the earth."

Well hello hollie.:lol:
keep dodging you lying piece of shit!
not even enough integrity to admit it !

Oh did I hit a nerve ? maybe the Mods should check you out. :lol:
 
days later and still no proof .

You can't offer anything but a fossil of a creature, your evidence is based on imagination.
are you a silly ignorant fuck all the time or just on line?
the fossils prove whales had legs nothing imaginary about it.
ok...now you show me moses' or jesus's remains.. hell I'd even settle for a Mayan burial with a guy next to his pet velociraptor..
even easier point out the place where all the rock and dirt from the 5min excavation of the grand canyon went!

btw you've contradicted yourself again

Daws, it is very simple produce the evidence, a complete fossil that shows this because I have never seen it.

We will discuss it to. Just showing one bone does not do it for me.
 
I would certainly define this as a slow transition.

http://www.macroevolution.net/human-evolution-chart-1.html#human-evolution-chart
Human Evolution Chart (Sec. 2) – Online Biology Dictionary

May I ask if you also believe in Noah's Ark to it fullest? If so, how do you explain how the animals could all fit in the Ark and how they could have been fed, bathed, have their waste removed, and have the property temperature for each specific animal.

Not every living organism that has ever lived went on the ark. There is diversity in each family because the genetic information was already there in the genome. The diversity of a family group comes from gene recombination,cross breeding,and selective breeding.

If everything slowly evolved over millions and billions of years where are these transitional fossils. Why are these that evolved from one group to another group not still arond but the ones they evolved from are still here ? I mean the explanation given is the better adapted transitional organisms pass on their traits through natural selection.

If you are not willing to put your beliefs to the test a person can be mislead. That is why many evolutionist and ex atheist have done and have become believers because the evidence better supports a designer.
Bullshit-5.jpg














6euqhjs.jpg


1.Two (Genesis 6:19-20) - "And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20Of the birds after their kind, and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive."
2.Seven (Genesis 7:2-3) - "You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female; 3also of the birds of the sky, by sevens, male and female, to keep offspring alive on the face of all the earth."

Yes at the time they were but I don't know for sure what was on the ark. Were great danes and boxers or clydesdales on the ark ? A lot of diversity came after the flood.

Gen 6:20 Of fowlsH4480 H5775 after their kind,H4327 and ofH4480 cattleH929 after their kind,H4327 of everyH4480 H3605 creeping thingH7431 of the earthH127 after his kind,H4327 twoH8147 of everyH4480 H3605 sort shall comeH935 untoH413 thee, to keep them alive.H2421


H4480
מנּי מנּי מן
min minnı̂y minnêy
min, min-nee', min-nay'
For H4482; properly a part of; hence (prepositionally), from or out of in many senses: - above, after, among, at, because of, by (reason of), from (among), in, X neither, X nor, (out) of, over, since, X then, through, X whether, with.


H4327
מין
mı̂yn
meen
From an unused root meaning to portion out; a sort, that is, species: - kind. Compare H4480.


H4480
מנּי מנּי מן
min minnı̂y minnêy
min, min-nee', min-nay'
For H4482; properly a part of; hence (prepositionally), from or out of in many senses: - above, after, among, at, because of, by (reason of), from (among), in, X neither, X nor, (out) of, over, since, X then, through, X whether, with.


Looks like only a portion of each family was on the ark. Species could represent a family group.
 
really! shit for brains HE already did.....
what you claim to be evdence is not just specious religious conjecture!

your belief in god is not evidence of any thing but your belief.

Well lets see if you can discuss amino acid chirality unlike hollie.

Lert's talk amino acids.
no need to it's not evidence of a god. you have to prove god exsits before any thing you say is proof is valid. get it.

Well chirality is evidence of intelligence and design not random chance.
 
Now if you only understood what was said in this article. This real undisputed evidence now that is evidence of a process being guided. This is evidence of design.

Can you explain how only left handed amino acids combine to form proteins in cells ? Which in turn form life on earth.

Now look at your side try to avoid the problem with conjecture filled explanations. This is indeed a problem for your side to explain.
What is the problem?




You can have all right handed or left amino acids but you can;'t have a mixture that my friend is by design.

:lol: life began from amino acids found in meteorites from space. Talk about imagination,what would happen to the meteorite that collides with our planet ? If the amino acids were found in the meteorite how can they be released without being destroyed.

They need to lay off of the drugs.

You understood nothing of the article.

You are in denial and you didn't even pick up on the conjecture used as an explanation.
 
Now if you only understood what was said in this article. This real undisputed evidence now that is evidence of a process being guided. This is evidence of design.

Can you explain how only left handed amino acids combine to form proteins in cells ? Which in turn form life on earth.

Now look at your side try to avoid the problem with conjecture filled explanations. This is indeed a problem for your side to explain.
What is the problem?




You can have all right handed or left amino acids but you can;'t have a mixture that my friend is by design.

:lol: life began from amino acids found in meteorites from space. Talk about imagination,what would happen to the meteorite that collides with our planet ? If the amino acids were found in the meteorite how can they be released without being destroyed.

They need to lay off of the drugs.

You understood nothing of the article.

You are in denial and you didn't even pick up on the conjecture used as an explanation.

Its remarkable that you would make the claim that anyone is in denial. You copied and pasted an article from Harun Yahya.

I suppose it’s not that surprising that you would worship at the altar of Islamic creationists such as Harun Yahya and Zakir Naik. It’s a simple matter to associate their them with the anti-science / anti-evolution crusaders since Naik and Yahya steal ruthlessly from the writing of Christian creationists for their own anti-evolutionary arguments. It appears that you have done nothing more than to promote the nonsense of: “hey, I read it on the internet so it must be true”.

in this case, your claims to others being in denial should be directed not at the science community but with your fellow Moslems who have voluntarily leapt into bed with the Christian creationist movement and polemic.
 
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