DACA Schmocka: Let's discuss the REAL problem

What can we do to improve conditions south of the border?

  • Pursue some kind of military cooperative agreement

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pursue some kind of performance-based private investing strategy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Re-direction of Federal funds to _____________________

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nothing can be done, it's hopeless, just build a wall

    Votes: 15 71.4%
  • Other, please describe

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • Mango Tango

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • Total voters
    21
Exactly, so why waste any on a stupid wall. And 18,000,000,000 is only the first phase. Crypat, the lil brown people aren't going to harm you. You have a better chance of getting hit by lightning multiple times as being harmed by the lil brown folk.

What a fucking moron. Your "logic" for not building it is absurd. "We shouldn't build it because the cost is nothing compared to other infrastructure projects?" Only a brain damaged cockroach could come up with that kind of argument.

Every illegal alien who works takes a job from an American. They also vote themselves more welfare benefits. We currently spend $120 billion / year on illegal aliens. You have to be a certifiable imbecile to claim they don't harm Americans.


Most of the illegals here aren't just strolling across the border honey. They are invited here on work visas and then stay after their visas run out. The corporations don't care and either keep them or hire them anyway. So tell me crypat how is your stupid wall going to stop that! You sir truely are an unhinged maroon!

Bull shit. They are in fact strolling across the border.


Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.

The ones who cross the border are where all the anchor babies come from. That makes it doubly important to put a stop to it.
 
Obviously the political "class" (har har) will be turning its attention to DACA soon. So here come the shallow platitudes, the bumper sticker sloganeering, the posturing before the teevee cameras, the goofy hyperbole and the personal insults & name-calling on yet another important issue.

My bold and fearless (!) prediction is that we're going to focus on the wall and employment practices and the tearing apart of families, screaming YOU'RE A RACIST AAUUUUGHH, etc. etc., and continue to ignore the one issue that is at the very core of this problem:

Mexico and much of South America remain a shit hole from which people are desperate to escape.

Let's try to avoid all the silly partisan behaviors listed above and discuss what America can actually do about that. How can we make it so that people south of the border have some reason to stay, while getting cooperation from those governments? Investment agreements with those countries? Some kind of military arrangement to deal with the cartels? Let's see if we can "exchange" some "ideas" on this without the thread spinning off the rails.

if they focus on a wall, they're imbeciles

Mexican immigration is substantialy reduced because their economy is getting better.

but if you're concerned, you might ask Donald why he just requested all those "guest workers" for his hotels.

as for DACA, humanity demands we resolve this issue. these kids grew up in our country. did nothing wrong and have virtually zero connection with their birth country.

deflecting to other policies isn besides the point. DACA is easily resolvable. and the right used to be all for immigration reform.... until the wingers chimed in.
 
What a fucking moron. Your "logic" for not building it is absurd. "We shouldn't build it because the cost is nothing compared to other infrastructure projects?" Only a brain damaged cockroach could come up with that kind of argument.

Every illegal alien who works takes a job from an American. They also vote themselves more welfare benefits. We currently spend $120 billion / year on illegal aliens. You have to be a certifiable imbecile to claim they don't harm Americans.


Most of the illegals here aren't just strolling across the border honey. They are invited here on work visas and then stay after their visas run out. The corporations don't care and either keep them or hire them anyway. So tell me crypat how is your stupid wall going to stop that! You sir truely are an unhinged maroon!

Bull shit. They are in fact strolling across the border.


Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.

The ones who cross the border are where all the anchor babies come from. That makes it doubly important to put a stop to it.

they aren't "anchor babies", idiota. they're American citizens.

:cuckoo:
 
Most of the illegals here aren't just strolling across the border honey. They are invited here on work visas and then stay after their visas run out. The corporations don't care and either keep them or hire them anyway. So tell me crypat how is your stupid wall going to stop that! You sir truely are an unhinged maroon!

Bull shit. They are in fact strolling across the border.


Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.

The ones who cross the border are where all the anchor babies come from. That makes it doubly important to put a stop to it.

they aren't "anchor babies", idiota. they're American citizens.

:cuckoo:

They are still anchor babies, dingbat.
 
Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.
LOL, could careless about the Dims or the rethuglicons. They are both as fucked up as the wall!

Nice try though hack!

Irrelevant.


So are you and the wall!


Once again, a wall is needed in case another lawless Obama weasels his way into power and floods the country again from down south, telling border guard to back off federal lands. huh? Wth?

Surely you remember the trains running through Mexico stacked up with dreamers. They put them in housing centers across the southwest for transport up north. What was it ~50K/mo?

A lot of Americans are dreamers too....on hold for ~11 years.

I've seen aldo raines on yahoo.....btw//
It aint me, this is the only political sight I go to.
 
What a fucking moron. Your "logic" for not building it is absurd. "We shouldn't build it because the cost is nothing compared to other infrastructure projects?" Only a brain damaged cockroach could come up with that kind of argument.

Every illegal alien who works takes a job from an American. They also vote themselves more welfare benefits. We currently spend $120 billion / year on illegal aliens. You have to be a certifiable imbecile to claim they don't harm Americans.


Most of the illegals here aren't just strolling across the border honey. They are invited here on work visas and then stay after their visas run out. The corporations don't care and either keep them or hire them anyway. So tell me crypat how is your stupid wall going to stop that! You sir truely are an unhinged maroon!

Bull shit. They are in fact strolling across the border.


Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.

The ones who cross the border are where all the anchor babies come from. That makes it doubly important to put a stop to it.
That is total horse pucky and you know it.
 
So are you saying stop investing in latin countries and give the western half of America to Mexico?
But how would that stop illegal immigration?
There is a distinction between investing and extracting that is probably lost on you.

Actually American companies invest and employ. That is not stealing.
BTW the dumb left wing Venezuelan government has kicked out those eeeeeeevil corporations and now they are starving.
It is the way they went about it that makes the difference.

What should have happened is that American corporations should have invested their money into producing goods and services specifically for the Mexican people not for importing back into the US.
Why would they do that? A business is not a humanitarian endeavor, nor is it an entity for the repair of third world economies. At least, not American companies.

What needs to happen south of our border and in all of Central/South America is their own form of 'industrial revolution'. They need a few modern-day Rockefellers, Carnegies, Vanderbilts, Morgans, and Edisons. They need to be motivated to improve their own place in history.
Why would they do that?
Because doing what they did is morally reprehensible.
What did they do that is morally reprehensible? Conduct business?
 
Most of the illegals here aren't just strolling across the border honey. They are invited here on work visas and then stay after their visas run out. The corporations don't care and either keep them or hire them anyway. So tell me crypat how is your stupid wall going to stop that! You sir truely are an unhinged maroon!

Bull shit. They are in fact strolling across the border.


Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.

The ones who cross the border are where all the anchor babies come from. That makes it doubly important to put a stop to it.
That is total horse pucky and you know it.
You believe pregant women fly in on a tourist visa?
 
I say mango tango. What happens south of the border is the problem of the people who live south of the border to deal with. Not ours. Just like grown ass adults calling them selves kids and wanting amnesty because their parents blew them them here is not our problem. DACA is an illegal action protecting criminals.
 
Bull shit. They are in fact strolling across the border.


Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.
LOL, could careless about the Dims or the rethuglicons. They are both as fucked up as the wall!

Nice try though hack!

Irrelevant.


So are you and the wall!

What are you 10 years old? Go away little kid, let the adults talk. Dismissed.
 
Bull shit. They are in fact strolling across the border.


Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.

The ones who cross the border are where all the anchor babies come from. That makes it doubly important to put a stop to it.
That is total horse pucky and you know it.
You believe pregant women fly in on a tourist visa?
Certainly can happen.
 
Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.

The ones who cross the border are where all the anchor babies come from. That makes it doubly important to put a stop to it.
That is total horse pucky and you know it.
You believe pregant women fly in on a tourist visa?
Certainly can happen.
No, not really. It's difficult as it is for moneyless peasants to get a tourist visa to the USA, and being pregant would make it impossible. They don't hand out tourist visas to women of child bearing age with no assets and no income.
 
Not most of them sunshine!

Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.
LOL, could careless about the Dims or the rethuglicons. They are both as fucked up as the wall!

Nice try though hack!

Irrelevant.


So are you and the wall!

What are you 10 years old? Go away little kid, let the adults talk. Dismissed.


Still makes me older than you squirt, now go play in traffic! Or chase parked cars or whatever a weasel like you does.
 
Quite a lot of them. The thing is that it’s a hell of a lot easier to send back the ones that the businesses bring over than the ones who cross the border. That’s why the wall needs to be built.

But I know exactly why you have to lie about it, illegals are the future of the democrat party.

The ones who cross the border are where all the anchor babies come from. That makes it doubly important to put a stop to it.
That is total horse pucky and you know it.
You believe pregant women fly in on a tourist visa?
Certainly can happen.
No, not really. It's difficult as it is for moneyless peasants to get a tourist visa to the USA, and being pregant would make it impossible. They don't hand out tourist visas to women of child bearing age with no assets and no income.


Sure they do, if they didn't you would not see many over here.
 
yeah well, WE have been un-able to get RINO-DEM to dry up the "demand". Therefore WE elected Trump to stop the flow by using a big thick wall with Dogs, Guns and whatever.

Get the DEM-RINO to enact a reasonable guest worker program. Not simply a steady stream of DEM voters until collapse again into a giant Socialist hell-hole with misery for all.

Uh, guy, the reason we have misery now is because the wealthy are hoarding all the wealth, not because some folks at the bottom are doing jobs you don't want to do.
 
Apparently you believe communism is preferable compared to some tinpot dictator. The later is merely corrupt. The former are mass murderers.

Yawn, everyone knows who fathered the mullatos on the neighboring plantations.

We've had mass murder in this country too, just ask the Native Americans.

So you do prefer communism?
 

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