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Democrats be warned, pushing gays and guns won't fix the economy.

True story

Eventually you will pay for your diversions. Hell, we'll all pay in the long run.

Everyone loves to blame someone for the economy when it is bad. The funny thing is that the economy usually does what it does regardless of who is in control politically. We have seen some of our biggest economic growth during times of very high taxation, and we've seen it at times when we had very low taxation. We've seen good times and bad, regardless of government spending. The economy has a life of it's own, and while it can be somewhat influenced by economic policy, government action rarely has a long or lasting effect on the economy.

The economy is cyclical, and what goes up must come down and vice versa. We are currently in the middle of a very long downturn in the economy. It is going to turn though, and it's going to be big, in fact it's going to be very big. There are about 75 million reasons this is going to happen.

This.
The economy is a living, breathing entity, almost alive. It has its ups and downs. When its down, the government tries to help it (and in the current POTUS case, failing hilariously), but ultimately, it'll bounce back. It always does.

We have 75 million people aged twenty to thirty-five who have put off starting families or just aren't to that point yet. No matter what the economic obstacles, eventually the younger generation is going to start having kids, and when they do, it will create massive demand for all kinds of products and services. By 2020, the economy is going to be in the middle of a very long boom.
 
True story

Eventually you will pay for your diversions. Hell, we'll all pay in the long run.

Everyone loves to blame someone for the economy when it is bad. The funny thing is that the economy usually does what it does regardless of who is in control politically. We have seen some of our biggest economic growth during times of very high taxation, and we've seen it at times when we had very low taxation. We've seen good times and bad, regardless of government spending. The economy has a life of it's own, and while it can be somewhat influenced by economic policy, government action rarely has a long or lasting effect on the economy.

The economy is cyclical, and what goes up must come down and vice versa. We are currently in the middle of a very long downturn in the economy. It is going to turn though, and it's going to be big, in fact it's going to be very big. There are about 75 million reasons this is going to happen.

This.
The economy is a living, breathing entity, almost alive. It has its ups and downs. When its down, the government tries to help it (and in the current POTUS case, failing hilariously), but ultimately, it'll bounce back. It always does.

Policies can hinder or help. Some targeted stimulus could have helped. But what we got was like a child spreading jam on toast. Then you have enterprises that respond to words alone. The threat of higher taxes and new regulations slowed our recovery with just the hint that they were coming.

We are not in this hole because of Obama but he broke the fucking ladder and now we're trying to claw our way out.
 
Very true.
And in the meantime, why not iron out a few other things?

The idea that the world should stop turning so we can all fret about the economy is pretty silly imho.

Fine, then lets iron out shit that actually matters. Gun control is nothing more than feel good legislation. It does nothing to stop crime or murder. And gays were offered civil unions and declined.

So let us focus on things that affect everyday Americans not a bunch of phoney baloney nonsense.

Apparently it's not "phoney baloney" nonsense to a whole lot of people.
Are you just mad because you aren't getting to dictate the agenda?

No I am mad because my income has dropped and as long as jackasses argue over dumb shit the economy will just continue to flounder. My client base has shrunk tremendously because of this mess and it does PISS ME OFF.
 
Everyone loves to blame someone for the economy when it is bad. The funny thing is that the economy usually does what it does regardless of who is in control politically. We have seen some of our biggest economic growth during times of very high taxation, and we've seen it at times when we had very low taxation. We've seen good times and bad, regardless of government spending. The economy has a life of it's own, and while it can be somewhat influenced by economic policy, government action rarely has a long or lasting effect on the economy.

The economy is cyclical, and what goes up must come down and vice versa. We are currently in the middle of a very long downturn in the economy. It is going to turn though, and it's going to be big, in fact it's going to be very big. There are about 75 million reasons this is going to happen.

This.
The economy is a living, breathing entity, almost alive. It has its ups and downs. When its down, the government tries to help it (and in the current POTUS case, failing hilariously), but ultimately, it'll bounce back. It always does.

Policies can hinder or help. Some targeted stimulus could have helped. But what we got was like a child spreading jam on toast. Then you have enterprises that respond to words alone. The threat of higher taxes and new regulations slowed our recovery with just the hint that they were coming.

We are not in this hole because of Obama but he broke the fucking ladder and now we're trying to claw our way out.



We should have thrown banks, wallstreet, and others in jail while providing stimulus to the economy in a responsible manner.

It would have a much better effect than what Iceland did (they actually jailed those incharge of the banks). The decline wouldn't have been as bad and the rebound would have been even better.
 
Policies can hinder or help. Some targeted stimulus could have helped. But what we got was like a child spreading jam on toast. Then you have enterprises that respond to words alone. The threat of higher taxes and new regulations slowed our recovery with just the hint that they were coming.

We are not in this hole because of Obama but he broke the fucking ladder and now we're trying to claw our way out.

I agree, but to me, here's what's sad.
I don't think Obama is a socialist. I think he truly believed what he was doing was right, and that it would help. He thinks slapping money on top of a problem fixes it.

The man is an uncontrolled idealist, and that's the most dangerous kind of person to have in power.
 
TM do you seriously have to spam every damn thread you participate in? Geez

facts are not spam.

dont want to see those links anymore?

stop producing the lies that those links debunk

Alternatively, you could stop posting the same Bush video, over and over.

I find it funny that you get mad at people who post old articles, then dredge up a speech almost five years old.
 
so you guys are jsut going to keep lying about a recovery?


do you want any respect in the world of reality?
 
You will get the facts thrown in your face every time you lie for poltical purposes.

GET IT
 
This.
The economy is a living, breathing entity, almost alive. It has its ups and downs. When its down, the government tries to help it (and in the current POTUS case, failing hilariously), but ultimately, it'll bounce back. It always does.

Policies can hinder or help. Some targeted stimulus could have helped. But what we got was like a child spreading jam on toast. Then you have enterprises that respond to words alone. The threat of higher taxes and new regulations slowed our recovery with just the hint that they were coming.

We are not in this hole because of Obama but he broke the fucking ladder and now we're trying to claw our way out.



We should have thrown banks, wallstreet, and others in jail while providing stimulus to the economy in a responsible manner.

It would have a much better effect than what Iceland did (they actually jailed those incharge of the banks). The decline wouldn't have been as bad and the rebound would have been even better.

Not just the bankers but the damn politicians that encouraged them to engage in risky practices. We sure as fuck shouldn't have bailed most of them out.
 
Yes and you LIES about nothing being better now is jsut dumb as fuck.


who the hell do you people think your fooling with that stupidity?
 
This.
The economy is a living, breathing entity, almost alive. It has its ups and downs. When its down, the government tries to help it (and in the current POTUS case, failing hilariously), but ultimately, it'll bounce back. It always does.

Policies can hinder or help. Some targeted stimulus could have helped. But what we got was like a child spreading jam on toast. Then you have enterprises that respond to words alone. The threat of higher taxes and new regulations slowed our recovery with just the hint that they were coming.

We are not in this hole because of Obama but he broke the fucking ladder and now we're trying to claw our way out.



We should have thrown banks, wallstreet, and others in jail while providing stimulus to the economy in a responsible manner.

It would have a much better effect than what Iceland did (they actually jailed those incharge of the banks). The decline wouldn't have been as bad and the rebound would have been even better.

Yeah, we should have thrown bankers, politicians, in jail. But yet, Bush pushed TARP and O voted to bail these banks out.
 
Bush crashed the economy and you will NEVER be allowed to just lie about it.

He didn't do it by himself. It takes the work of many. Bush didn't push the "crash economy" button on his own.

By the same token, Obama did not bail us out magically. The economy's recovery has been stymied thanks to his efforts, not helped. I don't doubt he's done all he has because he's trying to help, but it is failing to do so.
 
you guys have no record to stand on

Over four years, and Obama's economy isn't any better. sorry Obama's record stinks.

The economy is significantly better now. W and the GOP brought the nation to the brink of complete collapse. Thank god the democrats took back congress and the whitehouse or else we would likely be a 3rd world country by now.

In case you hadn't noticed, our situation has not improved. Record numbers on welfare, 90 million unemployed, no budget, massive debt and on and on.
 
Everyone loves to blame someone for the economy when it is bad. The funny thing is that the economy usually does what it does regardless of who is in control politically. We have seen some of our biggest economic growth during times of very high taxation, and we've seen it at times when we had very low taxation. We've seen good times and bad, regardless of government spending. The economy has a life of it's own, and while it can be somewhat influenced by economic policy, government action rarely has a long or lasting effect on the economy.

The economy is cyclical, and what goes up must come down and vice versa. We are currently in the middle of a very long downturn in the economy. It is going to turn though, and it's going to be big, in fact it's going to be very big. There are about 75 million reasons this is going to happen.

Very true.
And in the meantime, why not iron out a few other things?

The idea that the world should stop turning so we can all fret about the economy is pretty silly imho.

Fine, then lets iron out shit that actually matters. Gun control is nothing more than feel good legislation. It does nothing to stop crime or murder. And gays were offered civil unions and declined.

So let us focus on things that affect everyday Americans not a bunch of phoney baloney nonsense.

We were? We did? When the heck did THAT happen? :eusa_eh:
 

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