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Yes and that's why we should have universal healthcare provided by the government. You know like EVERY OTHER FIRST WORLD NATION. Which have managed to have better health outcomes and lower costs than the US.
its comical you don't trust corporations yet blindly trust the government to be able to do something like universal healthcare competently.
Anything the government touches except when it comes to blowing something up (we are very good at that) becomes mired in bureaucracy and sloth.
Corporations, despite opinions to the contrary, are not people...but the government is. It even says so in our founding documents. Of, for, by...
And then there's that whole "profit margin" thing...which, yes, does tend to make me trust the government more than a corporation when it comes to healthcare.
Then name specific policies that directly led to the high costs of healthcare. Saying a broad statement like "left wing policies" might get low information, less educated citizens to believe you but not me. So name them.
Hmm, let's see,
Tort system that promotes suing doctors merely for bad outcomes.
Third party payer systems that encourage over use of medical care
Reimbursements from Medicare/Medicaid that are below the cost of the service and must be made up for by private party insurance
Food stamp programs that encourage obesity and poor eating habits
Regulatory regime that makes introducing new drugs and procedures prohibitively expensive
That would account for a lot of it. Some of the cost is simply because health care is worlds better now than it was even 20 years ago. But what I outlined contributes a lot to it.
1. Torts is law 101. Which means that someone caused HARM to another individual and thus should be held accountable. And it's not just bad outcomes, it's doctor's negligent in some cases. If a bad doctor screwed up a surgery, that doctor should be held liable for their actions. Tort reform rewards bad doctors for bad work and hurts people.
2. I would say our patent laws help promote high drug costs. They get 20 years to charge whatever they want for that drug then it goes generic. That should be cut to 5 years in my opinion and a cap on how much they can charge a person (co payments can't exceed 5% of AGI for all drugs) which would keep a cap on out of pocket costs to incomes. That way they couldn't gouge prices within those 5 years. So yes in that sense the regulatory structure PROMOTES high costs of drugs.
3. Food stamps are a necessity. But I do agree with the sentiment that it encourages poor eating habits and thus obesity. However that's because they have a set amount of money each month. So to stretch it out, what do you do? Buy the cheapest food. The cheapest food is usually bad for you. However the options in poor neighborhoods are usually gas stations and cheap grocery stores with little to no fresh vegetables. So that's it. We need to promote farmers market with EBT card accepting payments in those areas. Fresh fruits and vegetables are the way to reduce obesity on the poor.
I know I didn't address all points but fixing our healthcare system isn't going to be easy nor cheap. There are many areas that need to be addressed. However, in my opinion, doing nothing isn't the solution.
so-called conservatives think wacko theocrats should be able to dictate the healthcare permitted to their employees.
so if some wackjob doesn't believe in medical care b/c if you die, it's G-d's will, that's hunky dory by you nut cases.
no. we should make sure our people can obtain affordable health care like in every other civilized nation.
get a grip.
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actually they ARE dictating that their extreme religious ideology be imposed on their workers.
the 1st amendment protects YOUR right to follow your own religious dictates. it does NOT allow you do force ME to follow your religious dictates.
you're confused.
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How many times do I have to point out that the fucking law disagrees with your assessment of health insurance as compensation?
In short, everything you claim is based on a lie.
Look on the bright side. With ObamaCare, you can finally get those meds you obviously need.
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A bill to 'override Hobby Lobby Decision." Are the members of congress that ignorant about what the three branches of government actually do. You cant 'override' the court with a law. That is not how it works. If you want to supersede the court you need to change the constitution.
Sure - get it done and show how little they understand their own fucking job.
The Court based its decision on the Restoration of Religious Freedom Act, something Congress passed and can modify. And probably should because it was an awful law.
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If you don't like the insurance your company is providing why the fuck do you support the government limiting your fucking options? Is it because you are actually so stupid you don't know that by supporting Obamacare you are getting the exact same thing you claim to hate?
Because I trust the government more than I trust my employer or their insurance company.
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If you are actually in your 70s you can get free insurance through the fucking government, not to mention your VA benefits, so ranting about the fact that insurance wouldn't cover you just proves you aren't capable of dealing with facts.
Exactly my point. We spend trillions of dollars making big insurance richer, including outright scams like Medicare Part C, and in the end, when you get old enough, the government ends up taking care of you anyway.
So why not just get rid of private insurance altogether?
"Gimme, gimme, gimme, and make that guy over there pay for it."
Acceding to this constant demand is how we have now arrived to the point where there are dipshits who actually believe it is okay to force someone else to give them something, and if that someone else resists, they are intruding into the lives of the dipshits.
Incredible. Absolutely incredible.
No, people should have the freedom to choose what they want to put into their own bodies. Not a corporation deciding for you. That's what the Hobby Lobby decision did. It opened the door to employers dictating their employees health coverage. Considering they save money when they can dictate what medicine you get, it could lead to the needless deaths of millions.
That's the true death panel, the corporate board room.
Because I trust the government more than I trust my employer or their insurance company.
And that is what makes you a total fucking moron.
How? Government is by the people FOR THE PEOPLE. Do corporations do what's best for the people or their bottom line? Let's see if you answer honestly.
No, people should have the freedom to choose what they want to put into their own bodies. Not a corporation deciding for you. That's what the Hobby Lobby decision did. It opened the door to employers dictating their employees health coverage. Considering they save money when they can dictate what medicine you get, it could lead to the needless deaths of millions.
That's the true death panel, the corporate board room.
Which is why healthcare should never have been tied to employment.
Yes and that's why we should have universal healthcare provided by the government. You know like EVERY OTHER FIRST WORLD NATION. Which have managed to have better health outcomes and lower costs than the US.
Which is why healthcare should never have been tied to employment.
Yes and that's why we should have universal healthcare provided by the government. You know like EVERY OTHER FIRST WORLD NATION. Which have managed to have better health outcomes and lower costs than the US.
Yeah, but this is America where profit is king...fuck "the people".
Yes and that's why we should have universal healthcare provided by the government. You know like EVERY OTHER FIRST WORLD NATION. Which have managed to have better health outcomes and lower costs than the US.
its comical you don't trust corporations yet blindly trust the government to be able to do something like universal healthcare competently.
Anything the government touches except when it comes to blowing something up (we are very good at that) becomes mired in bureaucracy and sloth.
Corporations, despite opinions to the contrary, are not people...but the government is. It even says so in our founding documents. Of, for, by...
No because as data proves our cost of healthcare was sky high before ACA. ACA has stemmed the increase by a lot. And these evil socialized gave been able to keep down the cost of healthcare in their countries so how would it possible be left wing policies are driving up the costs?
You are right.. The cost was high. Why?? Because of Left Wing Policies.
You are forgetting the unbelievable tax rate the people in those countries pay to support those socialized medical policies.
Then name specific policies that directly led to the high costs of healthcare. Saying a broad statement like "left wing policies" might get low information, less educated citizens to believe you but not me. So name them.
The government forces you to buy insurance. That is an intrusion into your private life.
The government forces your employer to buy you insurance. That is an intrusion into private life.
The government decides which companies get to sell you insurance on the exchange.
The government decides how much profit those companies are allowed to make.
And yet the dumbasses with seven pounds of brain damage are, "Intrusion? What intrusion?"
Nope. Still not an intrusion. Just out of curiosity, do you agree with the following?
The government forces you to not murder people. That is an intrusion into your private life.
The government forces your employer to report you if you murder people. That is an intrusion into private life.
The government decides which police officers get to arrest you if you are caught murdering people.
The government decides how much funding those officers are allowed to have.
And yet the dumbasses with seven pounds of brain damage say, "hurr durr wut introoshun, healthcare iz 4 librulls, all i needs is gunz, hyuck hyuck!"
The US Government isn't supposed to "fast track" ANYTHING!
It's set up as a deliberative body and is supposed to take it's time on legislation to make sure it's written very carefully as NOT to infringe on the rights of ANY American.
Senate Democrats are expediting legislation that would override the Supreme Court's decision in the Hobby Lobby case and compel for-profit employers to cover the full range of contraception for their employees, as required by the Affordable Care Act.
The bill, which is co-authored by Sens. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.), would ban for-profit companies from refusing to cover any federally guaranteed health benefits for religious reasons, including all 20 forms of contraception detailed in the Affordable Care Act. It would preserve the contraception mandate's current exemption for churches and accommodation for non-profit religious organizations, such as certain hospitals and schools.
A Senate aide told HuffPost that the bill will be introduced as soon as Tuesday night and go directly to the Senate floor as early as next week, without being considered in committee.
"The U.S. Supreme Court's Hobby Lobby decision opened the door to unprecedented corporate intrusion into our private lives. Coloradans understand that women should never have to ask their bosses for a permission slip to access common forms of birth control or other critical health services," Udall said in a statement. "My common-sense proposal will keep women's private health decisions out of corporate board rooms, because your boss shouldn't be able to dictate what is best for you and your family."
MORE: Democrats Fast-Track Bill To Override Hobby Lobby Decision
Sounds good. Get it done.
So they will monkey see, monkey do -- like the GOP House?
great, pass a bill in the US Senate that has no chance of passing the US House and getting to the President's desk
