Democrats, Liberals, Progressives: NOW What?

[Mr Natural]

Social Security and Medicare safe for another four years.

And that's all I really care about from DC.

 

[pknopp]

No they probably won't but those who never said a peep the last 4 years Trump ran up 8 trillion has no soap box to stand on.

Most of us have been saying from the beginning to get back to work, you guys supported the shutdowns and bailouts.

Mindless rant. You will find nowhere I supported either.

 

[Claudette]

But will the Democrats lead as if they can hear ALL voices?

Do you really care?

you had your temper tantrum and now America is really screwed

thanks for nothing

Mac is the lone voice of reason here.

In fact, I look forward to listening to his wisdom on how to best handle the looming economic/pandemic/international crisis.

LMAO and that's just what we will get from the Dems.

Everything will go back to the status quo where America pays for one and all. China will go back to its unfair trading and of course the American tax payer will get screwed.

Good OL Mac hates Trump and can't see the forest for the trees. If the Dems take the Senate there will be nothing to stop jack ass from doing what's on his list. I saw that list on this board and its a doozy.

Hope all the idiots that voted for that jack ass like what he will be doing because you can bet no one else will. Hope they enjoy.

 

[Mac-7]

In fact, I look forward to listening to his wisdom on how to best handle the looming economic/pandemic/international crisis.

Mac1958 will have zero influence over democrat policy in the future

but he will share the blame for every bad, wrong and stupid thing the democrats do

 

[okfine]

While I allow the relief of the elections to wash over me, and now that we have once again said that we don't want a Talk Radio/Qanon presidency (just louder this time), I can't help but wonder what the Democratic Party is going to do.

So, Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, is the party going to (1) try to rise above the ugliness of the last four-plus years and lead ALL of America, or is it going to (2) remain in the Trump mud and do everything it can to shove its entire agenda down our throats?

As for me, I'm hopeful it's (1). And, until further notice, I'm going to be hopeful that Biden has the right experience and temperament for the moment. There are still many moderates from both parties in Congress, so while the Trumpsters are paranoid (as usual) that we're going full commie, that obviously isn't going to happen. But will the Democrats lead as if they can hear ALL voices?

If they fuck up only 1/4 of what Trump has done they will have done a good job. TBD.

It'll be on us to raise our standards. That sure as hell shouldn't be difficult, but...

I expect a lot of dissent from the right. Ignoring them is a start. Show them how to govern is what to watch.

 

[Moonglow]

Legalize marijuana and wipe out felony convictions...

LefTard Logic:
“Let’s unleash criminal minded, unproductive stoned dark people on the public and encourage more criminal minded, unproductive dark people to get stoned.”

Hahaha...you dumbmotherfuckers never look past your noses do you?

I don't know what you did for a living but I have worked hard for almost fifty years out of fifty nine and I was getting stoned for forty one years while I did it. So take yer preconceive notions of superiority and smoke it in a pipe because that is all they are worth....

 

[DukeU]

Mindless rant. You will find nowhere I supported either.

Mindless rant. You will find nowhere I said YOU specifically.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

While I allow the relief of the elections to wash over me, and now that we have once again said that we don't want a Talk Radio/Qanon presidency (just louder this time), I can't help but wonder what the Democratic Party is going to do.

So, Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, is the party going to (1) try to rise above the ugliness of the last four-plus years and lead ALL of America, or is it going to (2) remain in the Trump mud and do everything it can to shove its entire agenda down our throats?

As for me, I'm hopeful it's (1). And, until further notice, I'm going to be hopeful that Biden has the right experience and temperament for the moment. There are still many moderates from both parties in Congress, so while the Trumpsters are paranoid (as usual) that we're going full commie, that obviously isn't going to happen. But will the Democrats lead as if they can hear ALL voices?

Even in a thread about your own fools and the bullshit they do you have to lead it off with your unhinged distaste for the right.

Grow a pair ffs

You left out the gops plan to kill Grampa & Granma in your thread about the left...

Idiot

You're very emotional right now. You'll get past this, I promise.

I am somewhat. It pains me to see where we are headed. Anyone who isn't upset by the turn of events is detached from reality.

 

[okfine]

They are going to be so busy fixing the trump mess...

Could take a generation to fix his mess.

What messes? Be specific

Turning his flock against reality. How's that?

 

[BrokeLoser]

After nearly 50 years, you don't know who *biden is? You think he's going to change all of a sudden?

Enjoy your higher taxes, gasoline prices, and job killing regulations. Hardheads.

I suppose they should cut taxes again to address the debt. It's worked so well in the past.

I suppose you and those like you shouldn’t dare suggest that government cut spending on wetbacks, foreigners and the like to balance the budget and pay down debt...huh?
It’s weird that “steal more from productive whitey” is always your default. But I’m sure you’re an awesome American and all.

Yes, we just want to piss you off. It seems to be working.

Nah, it simply confirms and proves you can’t be taken seriously on fiscal matters.
Even the most ignorant among us (you) know that a family in over their head in debt cuts wasteful spending FIRST long before they start borrowing from their wealthy brother and government should operate no differently.
What other elementary level shit can I teach you today?

Well, yes..and no. At a simple level, it's money in and money out. And sorry, taxes are first. The money coming in has to cover expenditures. We've seen the disaster that the "trickle down" effect has had on our economy, cost of living, and wages. Tax cuts do not increase revenues. They eventually lead to deficits and debt. After the money coming in is addressed, then you can talk about spending cuts. But you'll have to broach some very sensitive areas of cost cutting. Because just a few sections of the budget make up most of our spending. Problem is, you righties always go for cutting the smallest portion of the pie that serves the weakest among us. Not very popular. Run back to the same well time after time. These are just quick overviews as the issue is much larger. So far, you haven't taught anyone anything.

Spin it however you need to in your twisted little mind.
Sane folks know better....Using your retard logic, fuck it, let’s hammer rich whitey with a 90% effective tax rate and move all of Liberia to the U.S. for Americans to spoon feed huh?

 

[pknopp]

Mindless rant. You will find nowhere I supported either.

Mindless rant. You will find nowhere I said YOU specifically.

Bite me, yes you did.

you guys supported the shutdowns and bailouts.

You included me.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Legalize marijuana and wipe out felony convictions...

LefTard Logic:
“Let’s unleash criminal minded, unproductive stoned dark people on the public and encourage more criminal minded, unproductive dark people to get stoned.”

Hahaha...you dumbmotherfuckers never look past your noses do you?

I don't know what you did for a living but I have worked hard for almost fifty years out of fifty nine and I was getting stoned for forty one years while I did it. So take yer preconceive notions of superiority and smoke it in a pipe because that is all they are worth....

That’s a cool, moving story...I’m certain that since you’ve been able to balance bad habits with overall productivity so did or does everybody else.

 

[DukeU]

Bite me, yes you did.

you guys supported the shutdowns and bailouts.

You included me.

"You Guys"........ meaning democrats, *biden supporters, the left, liberals......... Get it?

And, no thanks.

 

[Moonglow]

Legalize marijuana and wipe out felony convictions...

LefTard Logic:
“Let’s unleash criminal minded, unproductive stoned dark people on the public and encourage more criminal minded, unproductive dark people to get stoned.”

Hahaha...you dumbmotherfuckers never look past your noses do you?

I don't know what you did for a living but I have worked hard for almost fifty years out of fifty nine and I was getting stoned for forty one years while I did it. So take yer preconceive notions of superiority and smoke it in a pipe because that is all they are worth....

That’s a cool, moving story...I’m certain that since you’ve been able to balance bad habits with overall productivity so did or does everybody else.

Some can adjust others sublimate. Just like the rest of the stoners I know that are productive..

 

[pknopp]

Bite me, yes you did.

you guys supported the shutdowns and bailouts.

You included me.

"You Guys"........ meaning democrats, *biden supporters, the left, liberals......... Get it?

And, no thanks.

No, I do not get it. You can't actually address what I say so you lump me in with things I do not even support. It's weak.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

After nearly 50 years, you don't know who *biden is? You think he's going to change all of a sudden?

Enjoy your higher taxes, gasoline prices, and job killing regulations. Hardheads.

I suppose they should cut taxes again to address the debt. It's worked so well in the past.

I suppose you and those like you shouldn’t dare suggest that government cut spending on wetbacks, foreigners and the like to balance the budget and pay down debt...huh?
It’s weird that “steal more from productive whitey” is always your default. But I’m sure you’re an awesome American and all.

Yes, we just want to piss you off. It seems to be working.

Nah, it simply confirms and proves you can’t be taken seriously on fiscal matters.
Even the most ignorant among us (you) know that a family in over their head in debt cuts wasteful spending FIRST long before they start borrowing from their wealthy brother and government should operate no differently.
What other elementary level shit can I teach you today?

Well, yes..and no. At a simple level, it's money in and money out. And sorry, taxes are first. The money coming in has to cover expenditures. We've seen the disaster that the "trickle down" effect has had on our economy, cost of living, and wages. Tax cuts do not increase revenues. They eventually lead to deficits and debt. After the money coming in is addressed, then you can talk about spending cuts. But you'll have to broach some very sensitive areas of cost cutting. Because just a few sections of the budget make up most of our spending. Problem is, you righties always go for cutting the smallest portion of the pie that serves the weakest among us. Not very popular. Run back to the same well time after time. These are just quick overviews as the issue is much larger. So far, you haven't taught anyone anything.

Spin it however you need to in your twisted little mind.
Sane folks know better....Using your retard logic, fuck it, let’s hammer rich whitey with a 90% effective tax rate and move all of Liberia to the U.S. for Americans to spoon feed huh?

I have to say, it's posts like yours that make me smile. After four years of listening to your side's bile and abject hatred...suck it. You lost. Deal with it like a man.

Our tax structure has to be addressed. And yes, that corporate tax rate will have to go up. As will the upper tax brackets. Kind of in keeping with the spirit of things. You make more, you pay more.

 

[G.T.]

I don't know what "shoving their agenda down our throats" means. Their Agenda is the Voters' Agenda, that's how Representative Government works.

 

[okfine]

Legalize marijuana and wipe out felony convictions...

LefTard Logic:
“Let’s unleash criminal minded, unproductive stoned dark people on the public and encourage more criminal minded, unproductive dark people to get stoned.”

Hahaha...you dumbmotherfuckers never look past your noses do you?

I don't know what you did for a living but I have worked hard for almost fifty years out of fifty nine and I was getting stoned for forty one years while I did it. So take yer preconceive notions of superiority and smoke it in a pipe because that is all they are worth....

That’s a cool, moving story...I’m certain that since you’ve been able to balance bad habits with overall productivity so did or does everybody else.

Some can adjust others sublimate. Just like the rest of the stoners I know that are productive..

After all that hard productive work getting high after that is quite all right with me.

 

[DukeU]

No, I do not get it. You can't actually address what I say so you lump me in with things I do not even support. It's weak.

You made the comment about raising taxes to pay down debt, I responded with the question, Do you think they will pay down the debt with higher taxes? And your answer was "probably not". I think I did address what you said. You couldn't support what you said.

 

[DukeU]

You make more, you pay more.

I'm sure the gender studies in Afghanistan will appreciate it.