Democrats say Democrats have gone off the rails

There is no "WE" in this scenario. You're not an American voter, for starters.

For enders, Warren can fight for deeply unpopular issues if she wants. It is generally a losing proposition.

One more time, we don't vote for issues, we vote for people.

Even with an okay economy, Warren is still polling ahead of your Fuhrer. When the economy tanks next year, she'll leave him a greasy smear on the pavement.
Polls are pointless. Especially over a year out lol.

Also says a lot about you that you have to hope for economic disasters in order to win.
 
What the Dems stand for is deeply unpopular with Americans.

That's a bit of a problem

Why because Ratmuffin told you that? The reality is, how you phrase the question often changes what result you get...

Again, Sanders, Biden and Warren are all outpolling Trump right now.. with a good economy that should have given him a slam-dunk re-election.

WHEN the economy goes into the tank next year... Trump is toast.

You just said that false belief in polls doomed Hillary Clinton, & now you cite those very polls as indicators Trump will lose next year:21:

The only way Trump loses next year is if the economy turns south....doesn’t matter who gets the Dem nod.
 
If moderates from both parties would hurry up and realize that they could dominate for decades by spinning off, joining together, and building a centrist platform, we might one day have a rational, functional federal government once again.
 
Sure they are, Joe. Because Americans love their open borders and the tax hikes that are going to come with "Medicare for all"

Just wait just wait til the debates and when Americans get a sniff of their great health insurance

They will love the idea of losing their health insurance to the wonders of Big Daddy Gov't and open borders. Oh yeah!

Okay, snookums, we pay more for health care than any other country in the world. Countries that have single payer pay LESS than we do.

Nobody loves Cigna and Blue Cross, no matter how much they try to paint themselves as the good guys.
 
You just said that false belief in polls doomed Hillary Clinton, & now you cite those very polls as indicators Trump will lose next year:21:

The only way Trump loses next year is if the economy turns south....doesn’t matter who gets the Dem nod.

No, what doomed Hillary was her own unlikability.

People will show up to show Trump the door this time. Four years of crazy is enough.

And the economy is already going south...
 
Sure they are, Joe. Because Americans love their open borders and the tax hikes that are going to come with "Medicare for all"

Just wait just wait til the debates and when Americans get a sniff of their great health insurance

They will love the idea of losing their health insurance to the wonders of Big Daddy Gov't and open borders. Oh yeah!

Okay, snookums, we pay more for health care than any other country in the world. Countries that have single payer pay LESS than we do.

Nobody loves Cigna and Blue Cross, no matter how much they try to paint themselves as the good guys.

Now tell Americans about the taxes

Good luck
 
As one who is no fan of Trump, it's not pleasant to watch what's happening to the Democratic party. And this is exactly what concerned me the morning I woke up to find that Trump had (gulp) won: That the reaction and pushback would be so insane and severe that 2020 would be an election of crazies, no matter WHICH party won.

When Barack Obama is now to the right of you, this quickly, something is seriously, profoundly wrong.

More and more Democrats are beginning to speak out, and hopefully things will, uh, "change" a bit.

Donald Trump Is Burning the Constitution, and the Biggest Villain at the Democratic Debate Was… Barack Obama?!
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Begala: Democrats Setting Themselves Up To Lose To Trump By Running Far To The Left In Primary

There don't seem to be so many Democrats left on USMB, but I'd like to get your opinion on this.
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You know it’s more than a year til the election, right?

And any dem is better than the disgusting pos in the White House
 
Sure they are, Joe. Because Americans love their open borders and the tax hikes that are going to come with "Medicare for all"

Just wait just wait til the debates and when Americans get a sniff of their great health insurance

They will love the idea of losing their health insurance to the wonders of Big Daddy Gov't and open borders. Oh yeah!

Okay, snookums, we pay more for health care than any other country in the world. Countries that have single payer pay LESS than we do.

Nobody loves Cigna and Blue Cross, no matter how much they try to paint themselves as the good guys.

Now tell Americans about the taxes

Good luck
Or you could tell America that he’s letting Russia tiptoe around our voting mechanisms

And the orange loon hasn’t done a thing for you taxwise because you aren’t in the top 1%. How lucky Donald is that all you uneducated uninformed ijits don’t care about reality.

Loon
 
As one who is no fan of Trump, it's not pleasant to watch what's happening to the Democratic party. And this is exactly what concerned me the morning I woke up to find that Trump had (gulp) won: That the reaction and pushback would be so insane and severe that 2020 would be an election of crazies, no matter WHICH party won.

When Barack Obama is now to the right of you, this quickly, something is seriously, profoundly wrong.

More and more Democrats are beginning to speak out, and hopefully things will, uh, "change" a bit.

Donald Trump Is Burning the Constitution, and the Biggest Villain at the Democratic Debate Was… Barack Obama?!
The Battle Over Barack Obama’s Legacy at the Democratic Debates
‘Stay away from Barack’: Dems seethe over criticism of Obama
Barack Obama worries about progressives' 'rigidity' leading to party infighting - CNNPolitics
Begala: Democrats Setting Themselves Up To Lose To Trump By Running Far To The Left In Primary

There don't seem to be so many Democrats left on USMB, but I'd like to get your opinion on this.
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There's where to fallacy is.....Obama was as radical as these people are....he just wasn't allowed to be that way.
Democrats are a serious threat to America. They told us this week that they are a threat. Their only policy is trash the economy, call anyone who stands in your way a rapist or a racist.....and destroy the freedom of the people that were born and raised here.
 
As one who is no fan of Trump, it's not pleasant to watch what's happening to the Democratic party. And this is exactly what concerned me the morning I woke up to find that Trump had (gulp) won: That the reaction and pushback would be so insane and severe that 2020 would be an election of crazies, no matter WHICH party won.

When Barack Obama is now to the right of you, this quickly, something is seriously, profoundly wrong.

More and more Democrats are beginning to speak out, and hopefully things will, uh, "change" a bit.

Donald Trump Is Burning the Constitution, and the Biggest Villain at the Democratic Debate Was… Barack Obama?!
The Battle Over Barack Obama’s Legacy at the Democratic Debates
‘Stay away from Barack’: Dems seethe over criticism of Obama
Barack Obama worries about progressives' 'rigidity' leading to party infighting - CNNPolitics
Begala: Democrats Setting Themselves Up To Lose To Trump By Running Far To The Left In Primary

There don't seem to be so many Democrats left on USMB, but I'd like to get your opinion on this.
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Not really. O was not a progressive. He was an elitist imperialist warmonger and primarily interested in furthering the aims of the transnational capitalist class. Just like HER.
 
You just said that false belief in polls doomed Hillary Clinton, & now you cite those very polls as indicators Trump will lose next year:21:

The only way Trump loses next year is if the economy turns south....doesn’t matter who gets the Dem nod.

No, what doomed Hillary was her own unlikability.

People will show up to show Trump the door this time. Four years of crazy is enough.

And the economy is already going south...

I’ll agree Clinton was detestable but the polls were wrong then & it’s foolish to put stock in them now.

The NY Times disagrees the economy is slowing down...

U.S. Economy Slows, Denying Trump 3% Talking Point

Again only way Trump loses is if the economy tanks. People aren’t going to vote to have their taxes raised, their guns seized, & their healthcare centrally managed. That’s what the Democrats are offering & it’s a losing platform.
 
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As one who is no fan of Trump, it's not pleasant to watch what's happening to the Democratic party. And this is exactly what concerned me the morning I woke up to find that Trump had (gulp) won: That the reaction and pushback would be so insane and severe that 2020 would be an election of crazies, no matter WHICH party won.

When Barack Obama is now to the right of you, this quickly, something is seriously, profoundly wrong.

More and more Democrats are beginning to speak out, and hopefully things will, uh, "change" a bit.

Donald Trump Is Burning the Constitution, and the Biggest Villain at the Democratic Debate Was… Barack Obama?!
The Battle Over Barack Obama’s Legacy at the Democratic Debates
‘Stay away from Barack’: Dems seethe over criticism of Obama
Barack Obama worries about progressives' 'rigidity' leading to party infighting - CNNPolitics
Begala: Democrats Setting Themselves Up To Lose To Trump By Running Far To The Left In Primary

There don't seem to be so many Democrats left on USMB, but I'd like to get your opinion on this.
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Shut up asshole. The entire fucking democrat constituency crushes anyone that is not woke enough, is too white, is a man, and is not a committed socialist.

What we all fucking know about you is no matter who the fucking democrats nominate, you will be voting for them.

You stupid fucking politically correct ass hat.
 
If they don't go with someone like John Hickenlooper, Tulsi Gabbard, or even Biden, I believe they'll lose.

I didn't like how Gabbard tipped glasses with Assad and then despite being asked several times - would not say anything bad about him. That is disturbing.
If Trump would have met with Assad and got chummy with him and refused to say anything bad about him... every single candidate would have went on for the whole debate about it.
Assad is a vile piece of human garbage who killed his own people. I am afraid she would be another Obama and bow down to dictators and shower them with money and praise just to say they made a peace deal that is so one sided you would have thought we were on their side.
 
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If they don't go with someone like John Hickenlooper, Tulsi Gabbard, or even Biden, I believe they'll lose.


It is amusing how democrats are struggling with find someone they think can beat TRUMP. I think we'll see the media start to thin out the clown field.
 
There is still Michelle Obama.
I would give it at least a 50/50 chance.
And the wealthy investor class would have a block party and put $millions in her coffer immediately... in their wildest dreams they could have Obama back. Corporatist/Globalist wet dream.
China would declare a national holiday
 
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If they don't go with someone like John Hickenlooper, Tulsi Gabbard, or even Biden, I believe they'll lose.
Theoretically, but that will depend.

For example, if the economy slows or goes into recession, and a Regressive Leftist is nominated, my nightmare scenario is realized.
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If the economy tanks, the other than border security, Trump has nothing.
 
Theoretically, but that will depend.

For example, if the economy slows or goes into recession, and a Regressive Leftist is nominated, my nightmare scenario is realized.

Well, it's YOUR nightmare... the rest of us, not so much. I kind of want someone who stands for something.

Here's the reality... playing it safe and nominating a middle of the road moderate who doesn't stand for anything is the surest way to lose.

Hillary lost because she didn't really stand for anything.

Romney lost because he didn't stand for anything other than Mormonism.

McCain lost because he ran against his party's base.

Kerry lost because he was running from his anti-war past. ("Look, I have three purple hearts!" "Didn't you throw those at Congress in a hissy-fit?")

Al Gore spent most of the campaign running away from the Clintons.

Best way to lose. Don't stand for anything.

You think Americans want a kook that wants to give illegals healthcare, and wants to end private health insurance ?
 
Theoretically, but that will depend.

For example, if the economy slows or goes into recession, and a Regressive Leftist is nominated, my nightmare scenario is realized.

Well, it's YOUR nightmare... the rest of us, not so much. I kind of want someone who stands for something.

Here's the reality... playing it safe and nominating a middle of the road moderate who doesn't stand for anything is the surest way to lose.

Hillary lost because she didn't really stand for anything.

Romney lost because he didn't stand for anything other than Mormonism.

McCain lost because he ran against his party's base.

Kerry lost because he was running from his anti-war past. ("Look, I have three purple hearts!" "Didn't you throw those at Congress in a hissy-fit?")

Al Gore spent most of the campaign running away from the Clintons.

Best way to lose. Don't stand for anything.

You think Americans want a kook that wants to give illegals healthcare, and wants to end private health insurance ?
But but but, it's only the right thing to do to have greeters rather than border patrol, and 150 million will gladly give up their health insurance and embrace a tax hike so illegal aliens can have free healthcare to go along with the free education they get now, and free college to anyone regardless of HS grades! ONWARD to a NEW AMERICA
 
If moderates from both parties would hurry up and realize that they could dominate for decades by spinning off, joining together, and building a centrist platform, we might one day have a rational, functional federal government once again.
If it isn't happening now, it may not happen. I've been hoping for it, but it may be that enough Americans are now accustomed to this madness, and just don't care.

An important part of the decay in our culture has been this shameless lowering of standards and expectations. Maybe we'll just settle for a permanent kindergarten food fight.

It may be that the only chance we have here is that enough brave & honest politicians in both parties say that enough is enough. Loudly. Not holding my breath there, either.
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Theoretically, but that will depend.

For example, if the economy slows or goes into recession, and a Regressive Leftist is nominated, my nightmare scenario is realized.

Well, it's YOUR nightmare... the rest of us, not so much. I kind of want someone who stands for something.

Here's the reality... playing it safe and nominating a middle of the road moderate who doesn't stand for anything is the surest way to lose.

Hillary lost because she didn't really stand for anything.

Romney lost because he didn't stand for anything other than Mormonism.

McCain lost because he ran against his party's base.

Kerry lost because he was running from his anti-war past. ("Look, I have three purple hearts!" "Didn't you throw those at Congress in a hissy-fit?")

Al Gore spent most of the campaign running away from the Clintons.

Best way to lose. Don't stand for anything.

You should be happy with the current crop of clowns. They stand for open borders, free everything, free healthcare for illegal migrants, late term abortions, nihilism, socialism. In essence, they hate America to the very core .
 

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