DemoRATS have now declared political civil war....

What office was Mueller running for?


Are you saying running for office makes one immune form investigation? It appears the commies in the house didn't get that memo.

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No, I've said this dozens of times now.... maybe someday a rightard will absorb it... I'm saying someone running for office can't solicit an investigation into another person running for that same office.

Capiche?


And where the fuck is that written? All federal law enforcement powers are derived from the President.

What's your thoughts about 6 senators who are running for the same office sitting as jurors?

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"And where the fuck is that written?"

I've only posted this about a hundred fucking times now...

§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
"All federal law enforcement powers are derived from the President."

What is that supposed to mean? The president is above the law? A president can break the law and not face consequences?


"What's your thoughts about 6 senators who are running for the same office sitting as jurors?"

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean either. It bears no resemblance to what Trump did.​


Damn, you really are stuck on stupid. The courts have ruled that simple information is NOT considered a thing of value in a campaign. But Trump didn't even ask for information, he asked for cooperation with the US AG. There's nothing improper about that, well unless you're a fucking commie trying to create shit from thin air.

And those six senators who are running for president have a clear conflict of interest and should be recused form any senate trial.

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It's not "simple information," it's asking to investigate. That's s service. Providing a service is a thing of value.

As far as those 6 Senators recusing themselves, that's not an unreasonable argument to make.
 
There's no problem with investigating Biden. Trump's problem is he's not legally allowed to be the one to solicit an investigation into it by a foreign nation.


Trump asked Zelensky for cooperation with the AG 4 times during the call. That is a perfectly acceptable practice. Mueller sent people to 13 countries, was that not legally allowed?

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What office was Mueller running for?


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You seemed to draw a correlation between Trump dealing with a foreign nation and Mueller dealing with foreign nations.

Trump's dealing with a foreign nation is illegal since it was for personal gain towards the election in which he's running. I don't see the connection to Mueller, who didn't deal with foreign nations for personal gain; nor could he violate campaign laws, like Trump did, since he wasn't running for any office.


Name one federal law enforcement agency that says Trump broke any law. Congressional and media fabrications don't count.

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Not a single law enforcement agency investigated the matter. Congress is investigating it.
 
There's no problem with investigating Biden. Trump's problem is he's not legally allowed to be the one to solicit an investigation into it by a foreign nation.


Trump asked Zelensky for cooperation with the AG 4 times during the call. That is a perfectly acceptable practice. Mueller sent people to 13 countries, was that not legally allowed?

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They have specific rules for Trump
They lost the election.....so they want to be able to tell the president what he can and cannot do.
That way they still get most of what they want.
Which is nothing good for the American people.

This isn't about the rule of law....but about undermining the current administration thru lies and deceptions.
Yeah, how dare Democrats hold a criminal president accountable.


Yeah, those conflicting opinions are really damning, LMAO. This is nothing but a partisan hit job, 3 years in the making.

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Nonsense. It was Republicans who went after Trump the last two years.
 
There's no problem with investigating Biden. Trump's problem is he's not legally allowed to be the one to solicit an investigation into it by a foreign nation.


Trump asked Zelensky for cooperation with the AG 4 times during the call. That is a perfectly acceptable practice. Mueller sent people to 13 countries, was that not legally allowed?

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They have specific rules for Trump
They lost the election.....so they want to be able to tell the president what he can and cannot do.
That way they still get most of what they want.
Which is nothing good for the American people.

This isn't about the rule of law....but about undermining the current administration thru lies and deceptions.
We CAN tell the President he is not allowed to break the law


Isn't that what law enforcement agencies are for? Name one that says he broke any law.

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Ask Mueller....he is the one who said you can’t prosecute a sitting President
 
It’s time to Subpoena The Transxripts of Schiff’s Secret Kangaroo Court Hearings now that The GOP was given some rights.

Still is a scam the rules are Rigged against Due Process.
The transcripts will be released soon.
Edited of course....which renders them useless.
You do know there were republicans in those meetings, right?

Are they just gonna let it go if the releases are edited like tRump's was?
They aren't allowed to read the transcripts ahead of their release.....so who knows what shit they're taking out....or putting in.
Wtf are you talking about?

1. You aren't dealing with dOnald tRump here. If they say "transcripts" they will be transcripts. Not edited summaries.

2. There were republicans in every one of those depositions. If the released documents are inaccurate do you think they will just sit and take it?

You guys need to learn to think, not just parrot.
I could say the same to you.....but if you think that Republicans have eidetic memories and can remember everything that was said during the chaos in those hearings....you're fucking crazy.

The problem with you is even tho the Dems have been perpetrating one hoax after another....you still trust everything they say and do....while never giving the Republicans the same credit.

What the Democrats produce will be whatever they want us to know......not necessarily the actual transcripts....which explains the secrecy.
 
" We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps. specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United· States for defense purposes.

The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot..."
And on this, you hang your hopes for impeachment.
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Yup. And Mick Mulvaney drove it on home on live television. Zip to 1:24 in the vid.

CBS: "Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney appeared to admit quid pro quo on withholding military aid to Ukraine during a press conference. "

 
As far as those 6 Senators recusing themselves, that's not an unreasonable argument to make.

Were we talking about a court of law, that would be reasonable. But, we're talking a political process that was ever to be meant to be a political process. If it were meant to be a legal one, the Founders would have designated a court of law to conduct it. The demands that Senators recuse themselves is entirely unreasonable. Moreover, were "conflict of interest" the guiding standard, every single senator would have to recuse themselves, as they either have an interest in helping a president of their own, or bringing down a president of the other party. So, yeah, you can discard that nonsense.

Not a single law enforcement agency investigated the matter. Congress is investigating it.

We don't actually know whether any federal institution investigates things related to Trump. I would say, some probably do. On the other hand, you have seen Mueller dance around alleging that Trump committed crimes. Federal law enforcement agencies are subdivisions of the DoJ, and as such follow DoJ regulations stating that a sitting president cannot be indicted. And that's why they stop well short of that and would not allege Trump violated the law. And that's why the demand, "name one alleging Trump perpetrated a crime", is thoroughly disingenuous. The same is true with respect to the oft-promulgated pap in the form of, "Three years, and still no crime!" So, yeah, you can discard that nonsense.
 
Trump asked Zelensky for cooperation with the AG 4 times during the call. That is a perfectly acceptable practice. Mueller sent people to 13 countries, was that not legally allowed?

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They have specific rules for Trump
They lost the election.....so they want to be able to tell the president what he can and cannot do.
That way they still get most of what they want.
Which is nothing good for the American people.

This isn't about the rule of law....but about undermining the current administration thru lies and deceptions.
Yeah, how dare Democrats hold a criminal president accountable.


Yeah, those conflicting opinions are really damning, LMAO. This is nothing but a partisan hit job, 3 years in the making.

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Nonsense. It was Republicans who went after Trump the last two years.


Bullshit, you commies and your media lackeys have been calling for impeachment since election day 2016. We know for a fact there are conflicting accounts of people that say were listening to the call and Vidman admitted he was concerned with political ramifications and took it on himself to advise Ukrainians. That's not in his job description.

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Time to close the media. They are intentionally selling a defective product. We are consumers and consumers have protection rights against manufactures deliberately providing defective products
The media is deliberately manufacturing a defective product and a stop must be put to it. The fact that the media “satisfies” half the population is further condemnation. Imagine if year after year only half of GE toasters worked-would that be allowed to continue?

It's really up to we the people to put them out of business. The media loses customers all the time. They can't sell leftist radio talk shows. Now most of the leftist news outlets are putting up paywalls, because they can't make any money on advertising alone.
 
Trump asked Zelensky for cooperation with the AG 4 times during the call. That is a perfectly acceptable practice. Mueller sent people to 13 countries, was that not legally allowed?

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They have specific rules for Trump
They lost the election.....so they want to be able to tell the president what he can and cannot do.
That way they still get most of what they want.
Which is nothing good for the American people.

This isn't about the rule of law....but about undermining the current administration thru lies and deceptions.
We CAN tell the President he is not allowed to break the law


Isn't that what law enforcement agencies are for? Name one that says he broke any law.

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Ask Mueller....he is the one who said you can’t prosecute a sitting President


And? The DOJ said nothing in Muellers report or legal theories were were adequate for prosecution, the OLC opinion notwithstanding. Do you need an explanation of what that statement means?

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When Obama was President, he wasn't publically denigrating the media, referring to them as the "enemy of the people", harking back to Joseph Stalin's attacks on the media, and probably given to him by Putin, who has already murdered over 200 journalists. Trump's comments have lead to an increase in violent attacks on media, including pipe bombs sent to CNN, a mass shooting in a Washington news outlet, and reporters being physically attacked at Trump's rallies.

Forgetting all the attacks on Trumps people and supporters?

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Rap Sheet: ***639*** Acts of Media-Approved Violence and Harassment Against Trump Supporters | Breitbart


How many of them were killed? 50 people died in 2018 from right wing terrorist attacks. It's not Trump supporters who are being attack by white supremacists, gunned down in synagogues, or churches.


Kooks can't be stopped, but nobody on the right is trying to encourage people to go out and assault or kill anybody. You can't say that about the left. Listen to what Water's said. She instructed those who follow her party to accost anybody related to the Trump administration. She said to get in their face, and tell them they are not welcome in America.
 
When Obama was President, he wasn't publically denigrating the media, referring to them as the "enemy of the people", harking back to Joseph Stalin's attacks on the media, and probably given to him by Putin, who has already murdered over 200 journalists. Trump's comments have lead to an increase in violent attacks on media, including pipe bombs sent to CNN, a mass shooting in a Washington news outlet, and reporters being physically attacked at Trump's rallies.

Forgetting all the attacks on Trumps people and supporters?

View attachment 287704


Rap Sheet: ***639*** Acts of Media-Approved Violence and Harassment Against Trump Supporters | Breitbart


How many people died as a result of these attacks? How many were injured? Telling people they're being assholes is not an act of violence.
 
Are you saying running for office makes one immune form investigation? It appears the commies in the house didn't get that memo.

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No, I've said this dozens of times now.... maybe someday a rightard will absorb it... I'm saying someone running for office can't solicit an investigation into another person running for that same office.

Capiche?


And where the fuck is that written? All federal law enforcement powers are derived from the President.

What's your thoughts about 6 senators who are running for the same office sitting as jurors?

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"And where the fuck is that written?"

I've only posted this about a hundred fucking times now...

§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
"All federal law enforcement powers are derived from the President."

What is that supposed to mean? The president is above the law? A president can break the law and not face consequences?


"What's your thoughts about 6 senators who are running for the same office sitting as jurors?"

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean either. It bears no resemblance to what Trump did.​


Damn, you really are stuck on stupid. The courts have ruled that simple information is NOT considered a thing of value in a campaign. But Trump didn't even ask for information, he asked for cooperation with the US AG. There's nothing improper about that, well unless you're a fucking commie trying to create shit from thin air.

And those six senators who are running for president have a clear conflict of interest and should be recused form any senate trial.

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It's not "simple information," it's asking to investigate. That's s service. Providing a service is a thing of value.

As far as those 6 Senators recusing themselves, that's not an unreasonable argument to make.


You're a liar, he asked for cooperation with the AG, that would be providing information. Provide the quote where he demanded Ukraine to investigate or he wouldn't provide aid. Remember, Ukraine wasn't even aware of the hold on aid.

Also those 6 senators have to recuse, there is a clear conflict, both politically and professionally.

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Trump asked Zelensky for cooperation with the AG 4 times during the call. That is a perfectly acceptable practice. Mueller sent people to 13 countries, was that not legally allowed?

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What office was Mueller running for?


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You seemed to draw a correlation between Trump dealing with a foreign nation and Mueller dealing with foreign nations.

Trump's dealing with a foreign nation is illegal since it was for personal gain towards the election in which he's running. I don't see the connection to Mueller, who didn't deal with foreign nations for personal gain; nor could he violate campaign laws, like Trump did, since he wasn't running for any office.


Name one federal law enforcement agency that says Trump broke any law. Congressional and media fabrications don't count.

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Not a single law enforcement agency investigated the matter. Congress is investigating it.

Wrong again commie:

Lost amid the cacophony of condemnation of Trump is the fact that the Criminal Division of the Justice Department examined the official record of the Trump-Zelensky telephone call and concluded there was no crime, not even a violation of campaign finance laws. “All relevant components of the Department agreed with this legal conclusion,” said the Justice Department.

Trump did NOT commit an impeachable offense on call with Ukraine’s president – Here’s why - Gregg Jarrett

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Ahemmm, the Democrats do have the majority in the house, chosen by we the people... and not an electoral college, so OF COURSE they would be the ones to write the rules of this process for the House.

The process is very fair... stop whining about process and find a way to DEFEND Trump, for his alleged wrong doings, IF YOU CAN....

Maybe you should actually try to find some facts to back up the bullshit you’ve been flinging for 3+ years now. We don’t need to defend President Trump. YOU have to prove your bullshit charges. But you can’t. So YOU stop whining and try to actually find some proof. IF YOU CAN......
 
When Obama was President, he wasn't publically denigrating the media, referring to them as the "enemy of the people", harking back to Joseph Stalin's attacks on the media, and probably given to him by Putin, who has already murdered over 200 journalists. Trump's comments have lead to an increase in violent attacks on media, including pipe bombs sent to CNN, a mass shooting in a Washington news outlet, and reporters being physically attacked at Trump's rallies.

Forgetting all the attacks on Trumps people and supporters?

View attachment 287704


Rap Sheet: ***639*** Acts of Media-Approved Violence and Harassment Against Trump Supporters | Breitbart


How many people died as a result of these attacks? How many were injured? Telling people they're being assholes is not an act of violence.



You seem to be conveniently forgetting the assault on the republican baseball practice. Tell Scalise and that officer no one was injured.

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Time to close the media. They are intentionally selling a defective product. We are consumers and consumers have protection rights against manufactures deliberately providing defective products
The media is deliberately manufacturing a defective product and a stop must be put to it. The fact that the media “satisfies” half the population is further condemnation. Imagine if year after year only half of GE toasters worked-would that be allowed to continue?

It's really up to we the people to put them out of business. The media loses customers all the time. They can't sell leftist radio talk shows. Now most of the leftist news outlets are putting up paywalls, because they can't make any money on advertising alone.
Unfortunately almost all the media is owned by entities that have other money making businesses so they can afford to lose money in order to get their deliberately stilted and inaccurate propaganda out. This is at least part of what is fueling the weak minded liberal coup attempt.
We do not accept this type of mal performance from any other business entity and the media should not be exempt.
 
Time to close the media. They are intentionally selling a defective product. We are consumers and consumers have protection rights against manufactures deliberately providing defective products
The media is deliberately manufacturing a defective product and a stop must be put to it. The fact that the media “satisfies” half the population is further condemnation. Imagine if year after year only half of GE toasters worked-would that be allowed to continue?

It's really up to we the people to put them out of business. The media loses customers all the time. They can't sell leftist radio talk shows. Now most of the leftist news outlets are putting up paywalls, because they can't make any money on advertising alone.
Unfortunately almost all the media is owned by entities that have other money making businesses so they can afford to lose money in order to get their deliberately stilted and inaccurate propaganda out. This is at least part of what is fueling the weak minded liberal coup attempt.
We do not accept this type of mal performance from any other business entity and the media should not be exempt.

Well it is exempt because few businesses are protected by the US Constitution like the media. However the Constitution doesn't stop us from taking action by not visiting these sites, turning on their broadcasts, or not subscribing to their newspapers. CNN isn't the lowest rated cable news service for nothing.
 
When Obama was President, he wasn't publically denigrating the media, referring to them as the "enemy of the people", harking back to Joseph Stalin's attacks on the media, and probably given to him by Putin, who has already murdered over 200 journalists. Trump's comments have lead to an increase in violent attacks on media, including pipe bombs sent to CNN, a mass shooting in a Washington news outlet, and reporters being physically attacked at Trump's rallies.

Forgetting all the attacks on Trumps people and supporters?

View attachment 287704


Rap Sheet: ***639*** Acts of Media-Approved Violence and Harassment Against Trump Supporters | Breitbart


How many people died as a result of these attacks? How many were injured? Telling people they're being assholes is not an act of violence.


Maybe it is in Canada, but here in the states, it's called free speech, and is protected by the US Constitution. Telling people they are being assholes is an opinion, not an incite of violence. Attacking children in a restaurant for wearing a MAGA hat, or physically attacking them at a rally is inciting violence.
 
Time to close the media. They are intentionally selling a defective product. We are consumers and consumers have protection rights against manufactures deliberately providing defective products
The media is deliberately manufacturing a defective product and a stop must be put to it. The fact that the media “satisfies” half the population is further condemnation. Imagine if year after year only half of GE toasters worked-would that be allowed to continue?

It's really up to we the people to put them out of business. The media loses customers all the time. They can't sell leftist radio talk shows. Now most of the leftist news outlets are putting up paywalls, because they can't make any money on advertising alone.
Unfortunately almost all the media is owned by entities that have other money making businesses so they can afford to lose money in order to get their deliberately stilted and inaccurate propaganda out. This is at least part of what is fueling the weak minded liberal coup attempt.
We do not accept this type of mal performance from any other business entity and the media should not be exempt.

Well it is exempt because few businesses are protected by the US Constitution like the media. However the Constitution doesn't stop us from taking action by not visiting these sites, turning on their broadcasts, or not subscribing to their newspapers. CNN isn't the lowest rated cable news service for nothing.
The constitution does not protects us from bad toasters either. The media produces a product and not merely an expression. That product should be subject to the same veracity and quality standards that any other consumptive product is.
 

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