Dems are very upset with Manchin derailing the BUILD BACK BETTER train

[percysunshine]

Manchin has been telling them for months his stance on the whole thing. They have "negotiated" with Manchin over and over and over again for months, trying to convince him to back their plan, without negotiations, accept gimmick tricks and intimidation. Manchin simply got tired of their intimidation techniques and their claiming they were "negotiating" when they really weren't.

Manchin is not finished. He still has a nuclear option.

Flip to the GOP and install Republicans as the heads of all committees.

 

[Orangecat]

If you can't pay for something, don't do it.

Like go to college, or receive medical care?

 

[pknopp]

Like go to college, or receive medical care?

I believe we can pay for every American to have access to medical care. I've stated over and over that I am perfectly willing to pay for that.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The debt increased under Trump, therefore conservatives do not care about the debt.

Only a retard thinks this way.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trump said he would balance the budget. It would be easy. 8 Trillion in new debt later...................

Yes. Trump lies. You tell us that every day. That is why you voted for Biden, because you dont like liars. What is the purpose of your post?

Do you agree that not one dime will be added to the debt if the DEM spending bills are passed?

 

[pknopp]

Yes. Trump lies. You tell us that every day. That is why you voted for Biden,

Again with the lashing out because you can't defend your positions. You know very well I never voted for Biden.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And the left media talking heads response to this has been downright comical...

"America as we know it is over"
"Democracy is dead"
"IT is the end of our Democracy"

Hilarious.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Again with the lashing out because you can't defend your positions. You know very well I never voted for Biden.

Do you want a balanced budget?

WHat is the perfect amount of debt for the US?

 

[pknopp]

Do you want a balanced budget?

Yes.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Then why did you feel the need to jump me for noting that Trump was also the very same failed politician people claiming Biden is?

Trump was a fucking disaster. He failed at passing infrastructure, wrecked a good economy, and killed a half million Americans.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Do you want a balanced budget?

WHat is the perfect amount of debt for the US?

No. Balancing the federal government budget is disastrous for an economy. You conservatives cannot be allowed to manage anything.

 

[Orangecat]

I believe we can pay for every American to have access to medical care.

You didn't say "we", you said "you":
Pknopp: "If you can't pay for something, don't do it."

I've stated over and over that I am perfectly willing to pay for that.

You don't have enough money to pay for healthcare for the poor, nor do you pay enough taxes to do so.
What you're really saying is you support using other people's taxes to do it.
"From those with means, to those with needs". Do you know who said that?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Yes.

What is the exact perfect amount of debt?

It keeps growing. What should it be?

 

[pknopp]

Trump was a fucking disaster. He failed at passing infrastructure, wrecked a good economy, and killed a half million Americans.

Hillary helped lie us into multiple wars costing how many lives?

But yes, in 2020 I didn't want Biden to win but I really wanted Trump to lose.

 

[pknopp]

You didn't say "we", you said "you":
Pknopp: "If you can't pay for something, don't do it."

You don't have enough money to pay for healthcare for the poor, nor do you pay enough taxes to do so.
What you're really saying is you support using other people's taxes to do it.
"From those with means, to those with needs". Do you know who said that?

Seriously, if you have to go here, you know you have no argument. Sheesh.

 

[pknopp]

What is the exact perfect amount of debt?

It keeps growing. What should it be?

I said I want a balanced budget, so that would mean what?

Please don't make me repeat myself again.

 

[Orangecat]

Seriously, if you have to go here, you know you have no argument. Sheesh.

I'm not arguing, just stating facts.
Concession accepted.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Hillary helped lie us into multiple wars costing how many lives?

But yes, in 2020 I didn't want Biden to win but I really wanted Trump to lose.

On her worst day Hillary > Trump.

 

[pknopp]

On her worst day Hillary > Trump.

On most every day Hillary = Trump.

 

[Orangecat]

On her worst day Hillary > Trump.

Not according to the electoral college.