Dershowitz: ‘You Cannot Charge a President With Obstruction for Exercising His Constitutional Power’

You can't charge a President with Obstruction of Justice or Obstruction of an Official Investigation while the President is seated.....

BUT YOU CAN charge them with Obstruction of Justice or Abuse of Power in an Impeachment and impeachment trial..... that's a FACT, JACK!
I'm charging Trump with "STUPID" in his decision in Israel that the world condemns AND ot how stupid was he in not listening to Obama about not taking Flynn on?

Other countries are now following Trump's lead in Israel, try to keep up.
Yes Blues I must bow to your expertise....
Speaking in Algiers, French President Emmanuel Macron called Trump's decision "regrettable" and said the new American policy "contravenes international law."
In addition, the German government said it doesn't doesn't support Trump's decision, Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesperson, Steffen Seibert, said on Twitter.
Seibert wrote: "#Merkel on the decision by @POTUS Trump regarding Jerusalem: 'The Federal Government does not support this decision, because the status of Jerusalem is to be negotiated within the framework of a 2-state solution.'"
Middle East leaders oppose
Leaders across the Middle East came out against the Trump administration's announcement and urged the US to reconsider.
Jordan called the US decision "a violation of international legitimacy." State Minister for Media Affairs and Government's Spokesperson, Mohammad al-Momani, said in a statement that Jordan rejects the decision, which he said fuels tension.
Egypt rejects the US recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and any impact that may result from it, President el-Sisi said in a statement released by his office. "This decision overlooks the special position of Jerusalem for Arabs and Muslims"
Sami Abu Zuhri, a spokesman for Hamas, the governing authority in Gaza, decried the move, tweeting, "Trump's decision will not succeed in changing the reality of Jerusalem being Islamic Arab land. This decision is foolish and time will tell that the biggest losers are Trump and Netanyahu."
 
Dershowitz is a tool to the RW media
Just like he was a tool to the OJ defense
 
You can't charge a President with Obstruction of Justice or Obstruction of an Official Investigation while the President is seated.....

BUT YOU CAN charge them with Obstruction of Justice or Abuse of Power in an Impeachment and impeachment trial..... that's a FACT, JACK!
I'm charging Trump with "STUPID" in his decision in Israel that the world condemns AND ot how stupid was he in not listening to Obama about not taking Flynn on?

Other countries are now following Trump's lead in Israel, try to keep up.
Yes Blues I must bow to your expertise....
Speaking in Algiers, French President Emmanuel Macron called Trump's decision "regrettable" and said the new American policy "contravenes international law."
In addition, the German government said it doesn't doesn't support Trump's decision, Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesperson, Steffen Seibert, said on Twitter.
Seibert wrote: "#Merkel on the decision by @POTUS Trump regarding Jerusalem: 'The Federal Government does not support this decision, because the status of Jerusalem is to be negotiated within the framework of a 2-state solution.'"
Middle East leaders oppose
Leaders across the Middle East came out against the Trump administration's announcement and urged the US to reconsider.
Jordan called the US decision "a violation of international legitimacy." State Minister for Media Affairs and Government's Spokesperson, Mohammad al-Momani, said in a statement that Jordan rejects the decision, which he said fuels tension.
Egypt rejects the US recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and any impact that may result from it, President el-Sisi said in a statement released by his office. "This decision overlooks the special position of Jerusalem for Arabs and Muslims"
Sami Abu Zuhri, a spokesman for Hamas, the governing authority in Gaza, decried the move, tweeting, "Trump's decision will not succeed in changing the reality of Jerusalem being Islamic Arab land. This decision is foolish and time will tell that the biggest losers are Trump and Netanyahu."
Did England our old friend that he turned into an enemy agree with this moronic decision?
 
Clinton was charge with trying to coach witnesses not with exercising his given power to fire an appointee to his government.


"..... in Comey’s case, however, becomes legally problematic if it is done with the intent of circumventing an investigation.

“If shown that Trump removed Comey to avoid being investigated? Yes impeachable: abuse of power, corruption, undermines rule of law,” Harvard University law professor Noah Feldman tweeted Friday.

The questions about Trump’s motives are being fueled, increasingly, by his own words in interviews and on Twitter."

Trump’s own words add fuel to questions about the legality of firing Comey
How the fuck would anyone in their right mind imagine that by firing Comey Trump believed that would put an end to any investigation/s?
It like claiming someone who is afraid of the cops showing up to arrest him would burn his ID so the cops wouldn't find out who he was.
Some of you have the mental maturity of four year olds.
they believe it BECAUSE that is precisely what Trump SAID it would do...it would ease the gorilla on his back...

He said it, TWICE to Lester Holt, and to the Russians he met with in the Oval office less than 24 hours after he fired Comey...
Now explain how Trump firing Comey "eased" the gorilla on his back.
If anything the gorilla got bigger.
I guess that must mean Trump really IS as stupid as you claim he is right?

Exactly. Trump became POTUS with no political, experience because he is stupid.

Maxine Waters is smart.
Trump is like the Pied Piper leading the rats into the ocean YES you are one of them
 
This is for all the forum idiots who think Mueller can charge Trump with obstruction of justice:


Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz batted down the merit of obstruction of justice charges aimed at President Donald Trump for what he said was exercising his constitutional power and authority regarding the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey and instructing the Department of Justice what to and not to investigate.

“If Congress were to ever charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we’d have a constitutional crisis,” he explained. “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. That’s what Thomas Jefferson did. That’s what Lincoln did. That’s what Roosevelt did. We have precedents that clearly establish that.”


he's lost his freaking mind.
And if president killed his wife on the White House lawn with a hundred witnesses, he could shutdown any federal investigation because he's president:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo: I rather doubt that would hold up in a Senate impeachment trial. Trump may think he is immune from punishment for his crimes but that's just another one of his delusions.
The moment Trump murders his wife by all means let us know.
Trump NEVER "shut down" ANY investigation/s. When he fired Comey the investigation into Trump never missed one fucking heartbeat.
What's happened is all three 'get Trump' investigations have fallen off the cliff.

obstruction does not require that you be successful. only that you make the effort.

thanks so much for playing. but please, keep defending him..... and by all means let's go back to talking about an email server....

don't look there.... look here.....

trumptard slight of hand.
 
You can't charge a President with Obstruction of Justice or Obstruction of an Official Investigation while the President is seated.....

BUT YOU CAN charge them with Obstruction of Justice or Abuse of Power in an Impeachment and impeachment trial..... that's a FACT, JACK!
I'm charging Trump with "STUPID" in his decision in Israel that the world condemns AND ot how stupid was he in not listening to Obama about not taking Flynn on?

Other countries are now following Trump's lead in Israel, try to keep up.
Yes Blues I must bow to your expertise....
Speaking in Algiers, French President Emmanuel Macron called Trump's decision "regrettable" and said the new American policy "contravenes international law."
In addition, the German government said it doesn't doesn't support Trump's decision, Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesperson, Steffen Seibert, said on Twitter.
Seibert wrote: "#Merkel on the decision by @POTUS Trump regarding Jerusalem: 'The Federal Government does not support this decision, because the status of Jerusalem is to be negotiated within the framework of a 2-state solution.'"
Middle East leaders oppose
Leaders across the Middle East came out against the Trump administration's announcement and urged the US to reconsider.
Jordan called the US decision "a violation of international legitimacy." State Minister for Media Affairs and Government's Spokesperson, Mohammad al-Momani, said in a statement that Jordan rejects the decision, which he said fuels tension.
Egypt rejects the US recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and any impact that may result from it, President el-Sisi said in a statement released by his office. "This decision overlooks the special position of Jerusalem for Arabs and Muslims"
Sami Abu Zuhri, a spokesman for Hamas, the governing authority in Gaza, decried the move, tweeting, "Trump's decision will not succeed in changing the reality of Jerusalem being Islamic Arab land. This decision is foolish and time will tell that the biggest losers are Trump and Netanyahu."
Did England our old friend that he turned into an enemy agree with this moronic decision?

England isn't our enemy. They hate him.... which is understandable.

That said, the british didn't do so well when it came to managing their occupied territory in the mid east. I can't imagine they actually thought that pals would ever live peacefully with anyone, much less jews.

there is a reason that Jordan didn't want them, even though the so-called Palestinian territories were really part of trans-Jordan until Jordan and Israel made peace
 
Dershowitz: ‘You Cannot Charge a President With Obstruction for Exercising His Constitutional Power’

Please quote from the Constitution where it authorizes a president to obstruct justice and break the law.

Article II, Section III

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?
 
That's like saying it's illegal to eat a hamburger if you do it "as part of a crime." Eating hamburgers is legal, whether you do it while robbing a bank or having lunch with your kids. Firing Comey was entirely legal, and there was no crime involved.

I know you're not bright enough or sane enough to understand this, you hack... but there are a lot of laws where whether something is legal or not turns on intent.

employment law says you can be fired for any reason or no reason at all, but not for an illegal reason.

now be quiet since you have no clue about these things

Speaking of hacks, what you can't seem to comprehend is that intent only matters when someone has broken a law. Firing Comey doesn't break any laws, so intent is irrelevant. My intent when eating a hamburger doesn't matter because it's inherently legal. It only matters if I do something illegal, like running you over with my car.

I just love all these legal beagels who don't know jack shit about the most basic legal facts.

Except you don't know what you're talking about.

It is not hackish to point that out to your ignorant ass

If that were true, you could prove I was wrong, but you can't. You claim to be a lawyer, don't you?

Talk about "hacks."

Prove what idiot? That Nixon resigned because he obstructed justice e it that the standard in employment cases is that you can fire someone for any reason or no reason but not for an illegal reason.

That is the law. Get over it ignoramous
Nixon was not charged for firing anyone you retard. Some lawyer you are.
 
Dershowitz: ‘You Cannot Charge a President With Obstruction for Exercising His Constitutional Power’

Please quote from the Constitution where it authorizes a president to obstruct justice and break the law.

Article II, Section III

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?

he wasn't charged with ANYTHING, idiota, he RESIGNED before he was charged with obstruction.

Read a history book.
 
Dershowitz: ‘You Cannot Charge a President With Obstruction for Exercising His Constitutional Power’

Please quote from the Constitution where it authorizes a president to obstruct justice and break the law.

Article II, Section III

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?

AGAIN, HE WASN'T CHARGED WITH ANYTHING. HE RESIGNED BEFORE THEY CHARGED HIM WITH OBSTRUCTION.

Moron. :cuckoo:
 
This is for all the forum idiots who think Mueller can charge Trump with obstruction of justice:


Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz batted down the merit of obstruction of justice charges aimed at President Donald Trump for what he said was exercising his constitutional power and authority regarding the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey and instructing the Department of Justice what to and not to investigate.

“If Congress were to ever charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we’d have a constitutional crisis,” he explained. “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. That’s what Thomas Jefferson did. That’s what Lincoln did. That’s what Roosevelt did. We have precedents that clearly establish that.”

The President doesn't has any control over any investigation of impeachment. But there is no evidence of any wrong doing for impeachment. They had to have solid evidence to start a impeachment process. But they claims that there's enough smoke to start one. But I don't see any smoke at all accept for the smoke that is coming from their bottoms. What Flynn had done was after the election, not during it. And the text was not pertaining to Russia. And what Manafort done was way before the President decided to run for the office. It is up to Session to stop the investigation if there is no evidence of Pres.Trump violating the Logan act. Only thing that Mueller supposedly be investigating is why Obama didn't do anything about Manafort dealings with the Russians? All of that was done under his watch. But he watched for years, Pres.Trump and his family while they were eating and bathing themselves.


It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me
 
NO man is above the law.
The Dump and his sad sack of cultists will find this out the hard way.
 
Dershowitz: ‘You Cannot Charge a President With Obstruction for Exercising His Constitutional Power’

Please quote from the Constitution where it authorizes a president to obstruct justice and break the law.

Article II, Section III

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?

he wasn't charged with ANYTHING, idiota, he RESIGNED before he was charged with obstruction.

Read a history book.
the obstruction he was accused of was NOT because he fired anyone retard.
 
Dershowitz: ‘You Cannot Charge a President With Obstruction for Exercising His Constitutional Power’

Please quote from the Constitution where it authorizes a president to obstruct justice and break the law.

Article II, Section III

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?

AGAIN, HE WASN'T CHARGED WITH ANYTHING. HE RESIGNED BEFORE THEY CHARGED HIM WITH OBSTRUCTION.

Moron. :cuckoo:
Then how can you claim he was charged with obstruction like you keep claiming? which is it counselor?
 
Please quote from the Constitution where it authorizes a president to obstruct justice and break the law.

Article II, Section III

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?

he wasn't charged with ANYTHING, idiota, he RESIGNED before he was charged with obstruction.

Read a history book.
the obstruction he was accused of was NOT because he fired anyone retard.

so now, it's a different *type* of obstruction, eh? you know, given that you made yourself sound like an imbecile.

actually, you psychotic nutcase, the Saturday night massacre was part of the obstruction.

anything else the voices in your head are telling you?
 
This is for all the forum idiots who think Mueller can charge Trump with obstruction of justice:


Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz batted down the merit of obstruction of justice charges aimed at President Donald Trump for what he said was exercising his constitutional power and authority regarding the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey and instructing the Department of Justice what to and not to investigate.

“If Congress were to ever charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we’d have a constitutional crisis,” he explained. “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. That’s what Thomas Jefferson did. That’s what Lincoln did. That’s what Roosevelt did. We have precedents that clearly establish that.”

The President doesn't has any control over any investigation of impeachment. But there is no evidence of any wrong doing for impeachment. They had to have solid evidence to start a impeachment process. But they claims that there's enough smoke to start one. But I don't see any smoke at all accept for the smoke that is coming from their bottoms. What Flynn had done was after the election, not during it. And the text was not pertaining to Russia. And what Manafort done was way before the President decided to run for the office. It is up to Session to stop the investigation if there is no evidence of Pres.Trump violating the Logan act. Only thing that Mueller supposedly be investigating is why Obama didn't do anything about Manafort dealings with the Russians? All of that was done under his watch. But he watched for years, Pres.Trump and his family while they were eating and bathing themselves.


It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me
“ no evidence of wrong doing.”
Lol

I don't know, it's hard for me to see any Trump ties to Russia, except for the Flynn thing,

and the Manafort thing,

And the Tillerson thing,

and the Sessions thing,

and the Kushner thing,

and the Carter page thing,

and the Roger Stone thing

and the Felix Sater thing,

and the Boris Epshteyn thing,

and the Rosneft thing,

and the Gazprom thing,

and the Sergey Gorkov thing,

and the Azerbaijan thing,

and the Donald Trump Jr. thing,

and the Sergey Kislyak thing,

and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing,

and the Russian Business Interests thing,

and the Emoluments clause thing,

and the Alex Schnaider thing,

and the DNC hack thing,

and the Guccifer 2.0 thing,

and the Mike Pence "I don't know anything" thing,

and the Russian mysteriously dying thing,

and the Trump's public request to hack Hillary's email thing,

and the Trump's house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer King thing,

and the Russian Fertilizer King's plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing,

and the Nuñes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing,

and the Nuñes personal investments in the Russian winery thing,

and the Cypress bank thing,

and the Trump not releasing his tax returns thing,

and the Republican party's rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing,

and the election hacking thing,

and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing,

and the Steele Dossier thing,

and the Leninist Bannon thing,

and the Sally Yates can't testify thing,

and the intelligence community's investigative reports thing,

and the Trump's constant reassurance that the Russian connection is all "fake news" thing,

So there's probably nothing there since the swamp has been drained, these people would never lie and all of this must be normal, just a bunch of separate dots with absolutely no connection.
 
Please quote from the Constitution where it authorizes a president to obstruct justice and break the law.

Article II, Section III

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?

AGAIN, HE WASN'T CHARGED WITH ANYTHING. HE RESIGNED BEFORE THEY CHARGED HIM WITH OBSTRUCTION.

Moron. :cuckoo:
Then how can you claim he was charged with obstruction like you keep claiming? which is it counselor?

show me where I said "charged".

i'll wait, loon.
 
Article II, Section III

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?

he wasn't charged with ANYTHING, idiota, he RESIGNED before he was charged with obstruction.

Read a history book.
the obstruction he was accused of was NOT because he fired anyone retard.

so now, it's a different *type* of obstruction, eh? you know, given that you made yourself sound like an imbecile.

actually, you psychotic nutcase, the Saturday night massacre was part of the obstruction.

anything else the voices in your head are telling you?
Be specific Counselor and link and quote to us any claim that Nixon was charged with obstruction for firing anyone.
 
Article II, Section III

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?

AGAIN, HE WASN'T CHARGED WITH ANYTHING. HE RESIGNED BEFORE THEY CHARGED HIM WITH OBSTRUCTION.

Moron. :cuckoo:
Then how can you claim he was charged with obstruction like you keep claiming? which is it counselor?

show me where I said "charged".

i'll wait, loon.
you keep claiming Nixon was charged with obstruction ok lets go with accuses shall we counselor, be specific and link and quote for us where he was accused of obstruction for firing anyone.
 
So when Richard Nixon resigned for obstruction, all of his lawyers were wrong?

Damn you're stupid
he was not charged with obstruction for firing any one, and you claim to be a lawyer?

AGAIN, HE WASN'T CHARGED WITH ANYTHING. HE RESIGNED BEFORE THEY CHARGED HIM WITH OBSTRUCTION.

Moron. :cuckoo:
Then how can you claim he was charged with obstruction like you keep claiming? which is it counselor?

show me where I said "charged".

i'll wait, loon.
you keep claiming Nixon was charged with obstruction ok lets go with accuses shall we counselor, be specific and link and quote for us where he was accused of obstruction for firing anyone.

go show me where I said, "charged", you freak of nature.
 

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