Did ANYONE on this board see a savings from Obamacare?

[Maryland Patriot]

I see that someone who makes a claim but has no number is calling out gaps in comprehension.

Thanks for the laugh.

Calling health care free is even more funny.

Saying I have the disconnect is hysterical.

Deal with that....

Says the guy that thinks the US paying for health care is going to cost someone $34K a year.

.05 cent is more than I care to pay to prolong some ghetto thugs life.

Your disapproval is noted and dismissed. Sorry.

I really dont care if you agree or not. I would assume based on your proclaimed race that you are certainly one of those with the entitlement attitude.
Comes from improper upbringing to think everyone owes you everything just because you breath and hold up the corner store.

I neither care nor deign to get a discussion of agreement. I simply said your wishes have been dismissed as being valid in my eyes.

Thats fine. I know your type. You sir are an idiot and just dont know it.

 

[Arianrhod]

I can no longer afford the free colonosthophy I can't afford to get to after losing my job as "elderly" costly worker with only BCBSHD plan lost that was $53/2x-mo. Now I ride dirty. Can't afford deductible, so I cross at the crosswalk on way to food bank.

Why aren't you on Medicare? Colorectal cancer screenings | Medicare.gov

I believe medicare age is 65? They start trying to colonosthpy you at age 50. Used to be you had to have someone take you and bring u home. Many can't fit the requirements due to work, kids, location, cost, wives whatever. And it gets put off, nobody wants to go....?

Colonoscopies are horrible (well, not the procedure as much as the prep the day before), but if there's anyone in your family who's had colon cancer, it's not something you can safely ignore. Please take care of yourself.

 

[Asclepias]

Says the guy that thinks the US paying for health care is going to cost someone $34K a year.

.05 cent is more than I care to pay to prolong some ghetto thugs life.

Your disapproval is noted and dismissed. Sorry.

I really dont care if you agree or not. I would assume based on your proclaimed race that you are certainly one of those with the entitlement attitude.
Comes from improper upbringing to think everyone owes you everything just because you breath and hold up the corner store.

I neither care nor deign to get a discussion of agreement. I simply said your wishes have been dismissed as being valid in my eyes.

Thats fine. I know your type. You sir are an idiot and just dont know it.

I give you permission to feel that way.

 

[Arianrhod]

Says the guy that thinks the US paying for health care is going to cost someone $34K a year.

.05 cent is more than I care to pay to prolong some ghetto thugs life.

Your disapproval is noted and dismissed. Sorry.

I really dont care if you agree or not. I would assume based on your proclaimed race that you are certainly one of those with the entitlement attitude.
Comes from improper upbringing to think everyone owes you everything just because you breath and hold up the corner store.

I neither care nor deign to get a discussion of agreement. I simply said your wishes have been dismissed as being valid in my eyes.

Thats fine. I know your type. You sir are an idiot and just dont know it.

What a great contentless post which will be ignored in spite of the rules because Reasons.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Yeah maybe in the short term.

Side Effects: Obamacare Adds $17 Trillion to Long-Term Unfunded Government Spending

No additional cost to you today. Screw over your children and grand children though. Of course left-wingers only think about today, not the future. Who the heck cares who you stick with the bill for your policies... .right?

$17 trillion

You guys just make numbers up

Yeah, the people in Greece said the same thing in the 1990s, when people warned of debts they couldn't pay. They all ignored them, and told them they were making it up.

Funny.... it doesn't seem so made up anymore. Kind of like Argentina.... and Venezuela.... and Cypress.... and a dozen countries that all believed they could give freebies away to the public forever.

Not just Argentina: 11 countries near bankruptcy

Suddenly, not so safe to just 'oh they just make up numbers'. But your fine. It's safer to believe you can borrow forever.... right? You saved money. Who cares about the future.

Guess what? We are not Greece

We are the wealthiest nation on earth. We can afford to take care of our people......it is just that we choose not to

Please provide those numbers.....

8,500 per person per year. That's 34 K per year for a family of four.

We can afford that ?

So wrong...

Was there something you wanted to point out.

Don't be afraid.

I already pointed out your intellect has vast gaps in regards to your reading comprehension. I said the US could afford to give every citizen free health care and you start asking what family can afford 34k a year. That is a disturbing disconnect you have going on there.

I think the disconnect is where you seem to think that money that the U.S spends comes from.

That comment lets me know you are out of your league when it comes to the discussion of where money comes from.

Well why dont you share with the class. Were does the money that the U.S wastes keeping scum alive come from if not the working citizens. (I can only assume you are not one of those or you would understand)

I'm a working citizen. Have been since I was 14. Just don't happen to be as lucky as you. I suspect you're not a "Christian," so you can't use the "worthiness" alibi as an excuse. You just think you're better than me because your boss pays you more.

You're not.

I have no idea what your boss pays you. You have no idea about my income. Why would I then consider myself better because of income.
You make little sense.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

.05 cent is more than I care to pay to prolong some ghetto thugs life.

Your disapproval is noted and dismissed. Sorry.

I really dont care if you agree or not. I would assume based on your proclaimed race that you are certainly one of those with the entitlement attitude.
Comes from improper upbringing to think everyone owes you everything just because you breath and hold up the corner store.

I neither care nor deign to get a discussion of agreement. I simply said your wishes have been dismissed as being valid in my eyes.

Thats fine. I know your type. You sir are an idiot and just dont know it.

I give you permission to feel that way.

Clue, Ive never needed a negros permission for anything, however I will say that during my working career Ive had more than my share of negros that did require my permission.

 

[Asclepias]

Your disapproval is noted and dismissed. Sorry.

I really dont care if you agree or not. I would assume based on your proclaimed race that you are certainly one of those with the entitlement attitude.
Comes from improper upbringing to think everyone owes you everything just because you breath and hold up the corner store.

I neither care nor deign to get a discussion of agreement. I simply said your wishes have been dismissed as being valid in my eyes.

Thats fine. I know your type. You sir are an idiot and just dont know it.

I give you permission to feel that way.

Clue, Ive never needed a negros permission for anything, however I will say that during my working career Ive had more than my share of negros that did require my permission.

You just needed mine and I gave it to you willingly. I allow you to feel as you do. It makes you feel important and useful.

 

[Arianrhod]

$17 trillion

You guys just make numbers up

Yeah, the people in Greece said the same thing in the 1990s, when people warned of debts they couldn't pay. They all ignored them, and told them they were making it up.

Funny.... it doesn't seem so made up anymore. Kind of like Argentina.... and Venezuela.... and Cypress.... and a dozen countries that all believed they could give freebies away to the public forever.

Not just Argentina: 11 countries near bankruptcy

Suddenly, not so safe to just 'oh they just make up numbers'. But your fine. It's safer to believe you can borrow forever.... right? You saved money. Who cares about the future.

Guess what? We are not Greece

We are the wealthiest nation on earth. We can afford to take care of our people......it is just that we choose not to

Please provide those numbers.....

8,500 per person per year. That's 34 K per year for a family of four.

We can afford that ?

So wrong...

I already pointed out your intellect has vast gaps in regards to your reading comprehension. I said the US could afford to give every citizen free health care and you start asking what family can afford 34k a year. That is a disturbing disconnect you have going on there.

I think the disconnect is where you seem to think that money that the U.S spends comes from.

That comment lets me know you are out of your league when it comes to the discussion of where money comes from.

Well why dont you share with the class. Were does the money that the U.S wastes keeping scum alive come from if not the working citizens. (I can only assume you are not one of those or you would understand)

I'm a working citizen. Have been since I was 14. Just don't happen to be as lucky as you. I suspect you're not a "Christian," so you can't use the "worthiness" alibi as an excuse. You just think you're better than me because your boss pays you more.

You're not.

I have no idea what your boss pays you. You have no idea about my income. Why would I then consider myself better because of income.
You make little sense.

It's your blatant assumption that anyone who doesn't earn as much as you do is somehow inferior that's the giveaway.

Because I don't believe you're among the Stoopids who believe "Anyone who doesn't earn as much as me is a bum who doesn't work."

I'm sure you'll verify that for me.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The average family of four makes 50 to 75 K per year.

They can afford 34 K ?

Good to know.

What part about the "US" confused you?

Was there something you wanted to point out.

Don't be afraid.

I already pointed out your intellect has vast gaps in regards to your reading comprehension. I said the US could afford to give every citizen free health care and you start asking what family can afford 34k a year. That is a disturbing disconnect you have going on there.

I think the disconnect is where you seem to think that money that the U.S spends comes from.

That comment lets me know you are out of your league when it comes to the discussion of where money comes from. One thing we know for certain is that its not going to cost a family $34K for the government to provide them free health care.

Free health care

Sounds like you think that is a real thing.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

$17 trillion

You guys just make numbers up

Yeah, the people in Greece said the same thing in the 1990s, when people warned of debts they couldn't pay. They all ignored them, and told them they were making it up.

Funny.... it doesn't seem so made up anymore. Kind of like Argentina.... and Venezuela.... and Cypress.... and a dozen countries that all believed they could give freebies away to the public forever.

Not just Argentina: 11 countries near bankruptcy

Suddenly, not so safe to just 'oh they just make up numbers'. But your fine. It's safer to believe you can borrow forever.... right? You saved money. Who cares about the future.

Guess what? We are not Greece

We are the wealthiest nation on earth. We can afford to take care of our people......it is just that we choose not to

Please provide those numbers.....

8,500 per person per year. That's 34 K per year for a family of four.

We can afford that ?

So wrong...

I already pointed out your intellect has vast gaps in regards to your reading comprehension. I said the US could afford to give every citizen free health care and you start asking what family can afford 34k a year. That is a disturbing disconnect you have going on there.

I think the disconnect is where you seem to think that money that the U.S spends comes from.

That comment lets me know you are out of your league when it comes to the discussion of where money comes from.

Well why dont you share with the class. Were does the money that the U.S wastes keeping scum alive come from if not the working citizens. (I can only assume you are not one of those or you would understand)

I'm a working citizen. Have been since I was 14. Just don't happen to be as lucky as you. I suspect you're not a "Christian," so you can't use the "worthiness" alibi as an excuse. You just think you're better than me because your boss pays you more.

You're not.

I have no idea what your boss pays you. You have no idea about my income. Why would I then consider myself better because of income.
You make little sense.

He make a little sense ???

 

[Sun Devil 92]

 

[strollingbones]

2014 obamacare paid for 3 operations for me..and then replaced both of my husbands knees.....the deduct put me in debt and i am still paying that.....2015 and this year...i have just paid the insurance companies and got nothing....due to the high deducts.....i love hearing people complain about a 500 buck deduct...i would love that...try 5 k...deduct

 

[rdean]

Anyone? Anyone at all? Our costs are up 12% since Obumblecare took effect.

health care law has led to 50,000 fewer preventable hospital deaths
None

The report found that "approximately 50,000 fewer patients died in the hospital as a result of the reduction in HACs (hospital-acquired conditions), and approximately $12 billion in health care costs were saved from 2010 to 2013." This occurred "during a period of concerted attention by hospitals throughout the country to reduce adverse events," the report said.

Independent experts said the report is credible.

Lucian Leape, an adjunct professor of health policy at Harvard University’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, told PolitiFact, "I think these data are reliable, and the ACA (Affordable Care Act) deserves credit."

 

[westwall]

Anyone? Anyone at all? Our costs are up 12% since Obumblecare took effect.

Nope. Our increase was originally going to be a paltry 88%, but then they figured everyone would leave so the increase dropped to 41%. The only reason why we stayed is that was the only plan that allowed me to keep my cardiologist who I quite like.

 

[westwall]

2014 obamacare paid for 3 operations for me..and then replaced both of my husbands knees.....the deduct put me in debt and i am still paying that.....2015 and this year...i have just paid the insurance companies and got nothing....due to the high deducts.....i love hearing people complain about a 500 buck deduct...i would love that...try 5 k...deduct

Yep. My deduct is 6500.

 

[westwall]

I do believe that medical cost increased every year before the ACA also..

My health insurance went up at around 9% per year. obummer care raised it 41%

 

[Andylusion]

2014 obamacare paid for 3 operations for me..and then replaced both of my husbands knees.....the deduct put me in debt and i am still paying that.....2015 and this year...i have just paid the insurance companies and got nothing....due to the high deducts.....i love hearing people complain about a 500 buck deduct...i would love that...try 5 k...deduct

Again, socialism is great until you run out of money. Yeah, it's wonderful for you, to screw over the rest of us, by forcing us to pay for your surgery.

Obama didn't pay for crap. Obama Care didn't pay for crap. The working people, the middle class, the lower class, the tax payers, paid for your surgery.

Great. What happens when we end up like Greece? Or Venezuela? Or all the other countries that tried socialism?

Go to a Greek hospital today... if you can find one still open... and find out how that plan ends up.

 

[Andylusion]

2014 obamacare paid for 3 operations for me..and then replaced both of my husbands knees.....the deduct put me in debt and i am still paying that.....2015 and this year...i have just paid the insurance companies and got nothing....due to the high deducts.....i love hearing people complain about a 500 buck deduct...i would love that...try 5 k...deduct

Yep. My deduct is 6500.

Ok, so the $6,000+ deductible is now normal? I never had to a deductible that high until ObamaCare. I hardly even saw a health plan with a deductible that high. Now all of them are that way? .... sigh... only the left-wing can see a train wreck like this, and call it 'progress'.

 

[rdean]

Health care was the number one cause of bankruptcy under Bush. Democrats tried to fix that. Republicans did everything they possibly could to fuck it it.

Now Republicans are complaining about what they did and assigning that blame to someone else.

Swine.

 

[westwall]

Health care was the number one cause of bankruptcy under Bush. Democrats tried to fix that. Republicans did everything they possibly could to fuck it it.

Now Republicans are complaining about what they did and assigning that blame to someone else.

Swine.

No they didn't. obummercare was WRITTEN by the insurance companies you moron. As is always true under progressive administrations, the wealthiest one percent of the population does extremely well (far better than they ever do under repub admins I'm sad to say) while the middle class suffers. It is a pattern that I would think even a braind dead moron, like you, could understand.