They don't revoke it because the sitting President does not have security clearance. The Ofice does. He gets to see everything because the job requires it. Once he's gone, he has nothing.
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Did Trump lose his security clearance when Biden became president?
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Lesh
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Exactly.They don't revoke it because the sitting President does not have security clearance. The Ofice does. He gets to see everything because the job requires it. Once he's gone, he has nothing.
Should there be a need or desire to “read in” a former President on a security matter it is always pursuant to approval by the sitting President.
Exactly.
Should there be a need or desire to “read in” a former President on a security matter it is always pursuant to approval by the sitting President.
Yes! Exactly right. Trump doesn't count because he's a compulsive blabbermouth.
Trump declassified everything he took. Hell the FBI was at his home in Feb. They looked at what was there and Trump told them to take what they wanted, They took nothing and told him to put another lock on the door where the boxes were stored. Kinda funny that 6 months later they raided his home to take what he offered back in Feb. All of a sudden he broke laws??? All the Dems have done is ensure a Trump victory in 2024. If he's elected the 2 million illegals Bidung let into the country will get kicked out and the wall will get finished. Bidung has made one hell of a mess and Trump is the guy who can clean it up.If so, that makes the classified documents at Mar-a-Lago even more seriously illegal. Does anyone know for sure?
Do ex Presidents keep their high level of security clearance after they leave office?
Answer (1 of 19): The President of the United States actually does not have any security clearance per se. As the chief of state, the President doesn’t need a security clearance because the President is the underlying authority from which clearance flows in the first place. Conversely, that autho...www.quora.com
Lesh
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None of what is posted above is true.Trump declassified everything he took. Hell the FBI was at his home in Feb. They looked at what was there and Trump told them to take what they wanted, They took nothing and told him to put another lock on the door where the boxes were stored. Kinda funny that 6 months later they raided his home to take what he offered back in Feb. All of a sudden he broke laws??? All the Dems have done is ensure a Trump victory in 2024. If he's elected the 2 million illegals Bidung let into the country will get kicked out and the wall will get finished. Bidung has made one hell of a mess and Trump is the guy who can clean it up.
Trump declassified everything he took. Hell the FBI was at his home in Feb. They looked at what was there and Trump told them to take what they wanted, They took nothing and told him to put another lock on the door where the boxes were stored. Kinda funny that 6 months later they raided his home to take what he offered back in Feb. All of a sudden he broke laws??? All the Dems have done is ensure a Trump victory in 2024. If he's elected the 2 million illegals Bidung let into the country will get kicked out and the wall will get finished. Bidung has made one hell of a mess and Trump is the guy who can clean it up.
Trump hid the other boxes. Trump didn't declassify the documents. He just took them. All the documents belong to the National Archives whether they are declassified or not. Trump is untrustworthy... A compulsive blabbermouth and a liar.
Godboy
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He has classified knowledge in his head at all times. I think we can trust him with papers.LOLOL
No, he's not. Especially in terms of exposure to classified documents; which he no longer has access to because he's not the president.
There's only one U.S. president at a time.
Whodatsaywhodat.
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Wow , the irony... for the love of god.I was just looking for info on that question myself. I recall Biden ordered that Trump no longer receive intel briefings.
Biden Bars Trump From Receiving Intelligence Briefings, Citing ‘Erratic Behavior’
Biden Bars Trump From Receiving Intelligence Briefings, Citing ‘Erratic Behavior’ (Published 2021)
President Biden said there was “no need” for former President Donald J. Trump to get the briefings, traditionally given to ex-presidents as a courtesy and to keep them informed if their advice is needed.www.nytimes.com
I don't think he took his security clearance away but I'm not sure.
Godboy
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Yes, hence why i used the words "current president". Thanks for pointing out the obvious.He's Former President Trump. We have ONE President, for a four year term, at a time...one President of the nation.
Carter, GWB, Clinton, Obama are ALL Former Presidents.
He has classified knowledge in his head at all times. I think we can trust him with papers.
He broke the law. All the documents belong to the National Archives.
Godboy
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There was an ongoing legal dispute over them. Obama kept his and used tax payer money to do it. Why anyone would have an issue with Trump is pretty obvious. Youre hypocrites.He broke the law. All the documents belong to the National Archives.
Whodatsaywhodat.
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God. Won't live with it. . They will lie and deny and the manure spreaders ( our msm) will do what they do and keep parroting the same lie over and over . With get this, zero consequences. Because it's impossible to break the rules when attacking Trump. Do you know why? Because there are none.That is correct. Like it or not, that is the law. Only the President can declassify documents. He doesn't have to ask anyone. So, live with it.
Grumblenuts
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The Constitution’s broad brush in Article II and cases interpreting Article II may fail to suggest specific requirements the president might have to follow regarding declassification, but one can put forth a common-sense view that the broad power allotted to the president under Article II does have a limitation; it presumes an intent to act in the interest of the national security of the United States. And such a limitation would mean that if a president acts contrary to that interest, the founders would not have intended such actions to receive broad protection under Article II. Without any documentation or articulated reason for declassification of the documents at Mar-a-Lago, it seems hard to claim that such declassification comports with national security of the United States and with the president’s duties to protect national security.
jc456
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presidents don't have security clearance.If so, that makes the classified documents at Mar-a-Lago even more seriously illegal. Does anyone know for sure?
Do ex Presidents keep their high level of security clearance after they leave office?
Answer (1 of 19): The President of the United States actually does not have any security clearance per se. As the chief of state, the President doesn’t need a security clearance because the President is the underlying authority from which clearance flows in the first place. Conversely, that autho...
jc456
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yep. see what I did?Nope.
For the fifth time
‘He Is The Executive Branch’: CNN Legal Analyst Undercuts Hype Over Trump Allegedly Possessing Classified Docs
A CNN legal analyst said that former President Donald Trump had “very broad” authority to declassify documents Monday night.
dailycaller.com
There was an ongoing legal dispute over them. Obama kept his and used tax payer money to do it. Why anyone would have an issue with Trump is pretty obvious. Youre hypocrites.
Nope all Obama's documents are stored at NARA... Just like every other president's papers.
Trump took an oath to uphold the US Constitution and rule the rule of law. Trump is undisciplined and compulsive. He's a egotistical blabbermouth.
jc456
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nope again.Nope all Obama's documents are stored at NARA... Just like every other president's papers.
Trump took an oath to uphold the US Constitution and rule the rule of law. Trump is undisciplined and compulsive. He's a egotistical blabbermouth.
Obama puts his presidential records off-limits for 12 years
by WorldTribune Staff, January 9, 2017 President Barack Obama has opted to keep his presidential records under wraps for 12 years after he leaves office on Jan. 20. Obama sent a letter to the Natio…
www.worldtribune.com
Obama's 'wholesale destruction' of tens of thousands of National Archive Records
Obama's 'wholesale destruction' of tens of thousands of National Archive Records, Barack Obama plunged America into darkness as ‘The Enthroned King of Fake News’
canadafreepress.com
There’s no sainthood for Obama, National Archives in Trump FBI raid uproar
At this point, National Archives bureaucrats seem to have adapted the early motto of National Review, standing “athwart history, yelling Stop.” But as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wisely warn…
nypost.com
That is correct. Like it or not, that is the law. Only the President can declassify documents. He doesn't have to ask anyone. So, live with it.
The president has to follow protocols. Declassifying documents is not whimsical. It's a serious matter. Face it... Trump is dumb as hell, deceitful and has no regard for national security.
Lesh
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They are under the control of the NARA and will not be made public for 12 years .nope again.
Obama puts his presidential records off-limits for 12 years
by WorldTribune Staff, January 9, 2017 President Barack Obama has opted to keep his presidential records under wraps for 12 years after he leaves office on Jan. 20. Obama sent a letter to the Natio…
Obama's 'wholesale destruction' of tens of thousands of National Archive Records
Obama's 'wholesale destruction' of tens of thousands of National Archive Records, Barack Obama plunged America into darkness as ‘The Enthroned King of Fake News’
There’s no sainthood for Obama, National Archives in Trump FBI raid uproar
At this point, National Archives bureaucrats seem to have adapted the early motto of National Review, standing “athwart history, yelling Stop.” But as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wisely warn…
That is how the law is written.
What is your lame point?
jc456
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they are not with the NARA. they are in a warehouse in Chicago.They are under the control of the NARA and will not be made public for 12 years .
That is how the law is written.
What is your lame point?
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