Do Conservatives Believe In Social Darwinism?

[Asclepias]

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The term "Social Darwinism" was used infrequently from around the 1890s, but became popular as a derogatory term in the 1940s when used by Richard Hofstadter to attack the laissez-faire conservatism of those like William Graham Sumner who opposed reform and socialism. Since then it has been used as a term of abuse by those opposed to what they think are the moral consequences of evolution.

Charles Darwin - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Hmmmmmm interesting. Now, define Conservatism.

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the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

Google

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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And once again the far left shows they do not understand any meanings outside their far left programming..

See they have their own definition of a word that usually does not fit reality..

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

 

[Ravi]

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

Did not show up in the far left blog sites?

The term "Social Darwinism" was used infrequently from around the 1890s, but became popular as a derogatory term in the 1940s when used by Richard Hofstadter to attack the laissez-faire conservatism of those like William Graham Sumner who opposed reform and socialism. Since then it has been used as a term of abuse by those opposed to what they think are the moral consequences of evolution.

Charles Darwin - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Hmmmmmm interesting. Now, define Conservatism.

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the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

Google

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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They are also very anal.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Links!!!

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The term "Social Darwinism" was used infrequently from around the 1890s, but became popular as a derogatory term in the 1940s when used by Richard Hofstadter to attack the laissez-faire conservatism of those like William Graham Sumner who opposed reform and socialism. Since then it has been used as a term of abuse by those opposed to what they think are the moral consequences of evolution.

Charles Darwin - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Hmmmmmm interesting. Now, define Conservatism.

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the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

Google

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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They are also very anal.

Oy, is that Conservatism??????

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[The Rabbi]

Go fuck yourself, Herr Moron. Go define it yourself.

What a shame, we could maybe have actually had a dialogue. I meant the question quite sincerely, but if you are incapable of defining your own ideology, well, ok. Let's just sing Kumbayah in Duet. I'm on top. And breathe, and. ....



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No, I will not let you derail my thread with inane vapid shit about what "conservative" means, Herr Noodlenoggin. Either address the topic or start your own thread.

Oh but I am addressing your topic. How in the world can anyone give a sure answer without knowing how you define Conservatism? The question is absolutely germain to this stimulating conversation!

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Fuck off

So, you are unable to define your own ideology, much less give historical context, it appears. Thank goodness your profession is hopefully not that of salesman, you would never have made a sale. Oy, Gewalt.

One last time: how do YOU define Conservatism? Without that information, a real debate is not possible.

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Go fuck yourself. You try to derail a thread with stupid talk. Conservatives are opposed to progressives. There. Now address the issue.

 

[Kosh]

Did not show up in the far left blog sites?

The term "Social Darwinism" was used infrequently from around the 1890s, but became popular as a derogatory term in the 1940s when used by Richard Hofstadter to attack the laissez-faire conservatism of those like William Graham Sumner who opposed reform and socialism. Since then it has been used as a term of abuse by those opposed to what they think are the moral consequences of evolution.

Charles Darwin - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Hmmmmmm interesting. Now, define Conservatism.

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the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

Google

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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They are also very anal.

Oy, is that Conservatism??????

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Leave it to the far left to prove my point for me..

 

[The Rabbi]

Did not show up in the far left blog sites?

The term "Social Darwinism" was used infrequently from around the 1890s, but became popular as a derogatory term in the 1940s when used by Richard Hofstadter to attack the laissez-faire conservatism of those like William Graham Sumner who opposed reform and socialism. Since then it has been used as a term of abuse by those opposed to what they think are the moral consequences of evolution.

Charles Darwin - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Hmmmmmm interesting. Now, define Conservatism.

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the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

Google

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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And once again the far left shows they do not understand any meanings outside their far left programming..

See they have their own definition of a word that usually does not fit reality..

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

Do you have any evidence that is the case? Because it isnt. There is no evidence of conservatives using the term social Darwinism, much less endorsing it.

 

[Kosh]

Did not show up in the far left blog sites?

The term "Social Darwinism" was used infrequently from around the 1890s, but became popular as a derogatory term in the 1940s when used by Richard Hofstadter to attack the laissez-faire conservatism of those like William Graham Sumner who opposed reform and socialism. Since then it has been used as a term of abuse by those opposed to what they think are the moral consequences of evolution.

Charles Darwin - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Hmmmmmm interesting. Now, define Conservatism.

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the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

Google

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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And once again the far left shows they do not understand any meanings outside their far left programming..

See they have their own definition of a word that usually does not fit reality..

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

So all those southern democrats in the 60's where really far right?

 

[Carla_Danger]

That Jewish fella Epstein, Bill Clinton's buddy, is doing pretty good.

What will it profit him to gain the whole world only to lose his own soul? Epstein is a fool. ( So are Bill and Hillary Clinton )

You are so right. Just listen to this reverse speech of Bill Clinton. (hehe)

 

[Kosh]

That Jewish fella Epstein, Bill Clinton's buddy, is doing pretty good.

What will it profit him to gain the whole world only to lose his own soul? Epstein is a fool. ( So are Bill and Hillary Clinton )

You are so right. Just listen to this reverse speech of Bill Clinton. (hehe)

Funny how the far left posts things they do not understand.

Yet then again this far left drone will vote far left no matter in the 2016 elections.

 

[Asclepias]

Hmmmmmm interesting. Now, define Conservatism.

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the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

Google

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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And once again the far left shows they do not understand any meanings outside their far left programming..

See they have their own definition of a word that usually does not fit reality..

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

So all those southern democrats in the 60's where really far right?

Thats correct. Its amazing how stupid conservatives are. The dems were conservatives until they all left and started voting republican.

 

[Asclepias]

Hmmmmmm interesting. Now, define Conservatism.

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the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

Google

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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And once again the far left shows they do not understand any meanings outside their far left programming..

See they have their own definition of a word that usually does not fit reality..

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

Do you have any evidence that is the case? Because it isnt. There is no evidence of conservatives using the term social Darwinism, much less endorsing it.

Yes I do have proof. Its in the dictionary.

Social darwinism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

"The theory was used from the late 19th century to support laissez-faire capitalism and political conservatism. "

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

Thomas Nelson Bibles

I prefer the KJV but take your pick. Look up Genesis 1:26.

The Bible tells you that in specific, Darwin is the spiritual father of Karl Marx?

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

Thomas Nelson Bibles

I prefer the KJV but take your pick. Look up Genesis 1:26.

The Bible tells you that in specific, Darwin is the spiritual father of Karl Marx?

No! The Bible exposes Darwin's theory to be a lie. Richard Wurmbrand's book Marx & Satan identifies Darwin as the Spiritual father of Marx. Here you go!

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the entire Book by Wurmbrand - I had to look it up for you - here is the part that addresses Darwin as the Spiritual Father of Marx. It took me a while to read through it!

What was the specific contribution of Marx to Satan's
plan for mankind?

The Bible teaches that God created man in His own
image (Genesis 1:26). Up to the time of Marx, man
continued to be considered as "the crown of creation."
Marx was Satan's chosen tool to make man lose his
self-esteem, his conviction that he comes from high
places and is meant to return to them. Marxism is the
first systematic and detailed philosophy which drasti-
cally reduces the notion of man.

According to Marx, man is primarily a belly which
has to be filled and refilled constantly. The prevailing
interests of man are economic in nature; he produces in
order to satisfy his needs. For this purpose, he enters
into social relationships with others. This is the basis of
society, what Marx calls the infrastructure. Marriage,
love, art, science, religion, philosophy, everything other
than the needs of the belly, are all superstructure, deter-
mined in the last analysis by the state of the belly.

No wonder Marx praised Darwin's book The Descent of Man,
another masterstroke which makes men
forget their divine origin and divine purpose. Darwin
said that man springs from the animal world.

Man was dethroned by these two. Satan could not
dethrone God, so he devalued man. Man was shown to
be the progeny of animals and a mere servant to his
intestines.

It is a strange coincidence that the nineteenth cen-
tury gave the world three leading personalities opposed
to Christianity, all bearing the name of Charles: Karl
(German for Charles) Marx, Charles Darwin, and the
French poet Charles Baudelaire. The latter wrote in
"Abel and Cain":

Race of Cain, ascend to heaven
And throw God to the earth.

Marx wrote to Ferdinand Lassalle on January 16,
1861, "Darwin's book is very important and serves me
as a basis in the natural sciences for the historical class
struggle."

Marx's son-in-law, Paul Lafargue, in Socialism and
the Intellectuals, says,

When Darwin published his Origin of Species, he took away
from God his role as creator in the organic world, as Frank-
lin has despoiled him of his thunderbolt.

(It was not Darwin's original intent to harm religion.
He had written, "There is a grandeur in this view of
life, with its several powers, having been originally
breathed into a few forms or into one." In order to
make his position more emphatic, Darwin inserted the
phrase "by the Creator" after "breathed" in the second



MARX, DARWIN, AND REVOLUTION/ 85

edition. It remained there in all the succeeding editions
he published.)

Later Freud would complete the work of these two
giants, reducing man basically to a sex urge, sometimes
sublimated in politics, art, or religion. It was the Swiss
psychologist Carl Gustav Jung who returned to the
Biblical doctrine that the religious impulse is man's ba-
sic urge.

The age of Marx was a time of Satanist ferment in
many spheres of life. The Russian poet Sologub wrote,
"My father is the Devil." Another Russian poet, Briu-
sov, said, "I glorify equally the Lord and the Devil."

Marx was a child of the time that gave us Nietzsche
(Hitler's and Mussolini's favorite philosopher), Max
Stirner, an extreme anarchist, and Oscar Wilde, the first
theoretician of freedom for homosexuality, a vice which
today has met with acceptance even among the clergy.

Satanic forces prepared Russia for the victory of
Marxism. The time of the revolution was a period
when love, goodwill, and healthy feeling were consid-
ered mean and retrograde. Girls hid their innocence
and husbands their faithfulness. Destruction was
praised as good taste, neurasthenia as the sign of a fine
mind. This was the theme of new writers who burst on
the scene out of obscurity. Men invented vices and
perversions, and were fastidious in their avoidance of
being thought moral.

How was it that Stalin became a revolutionist after
reading Darwin? 1 As a student in an Orthodox semi-
nary, he obtained from Darwin the concept that we are
not creatures of God, but the result of an evolution in
which ruthless competition reigns. It is only the strong-



86 / MARX &> SATAN

est and most cruel who survive. He learned that moral
and religious criteria play no role in nature and that
man is as much a part of nature as a fish or an ape.
Long live ruthlessness and cruelty!

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.

Beyond the intellectual turmoil of the nineteenth
century can be traced the influence of the French Rev-
olution, which was spiritually very much akin to the
Russian cataclysm of the twentieth century.

During the upheaval in France, Anarchasis Clootz, a
leading French revolutionary and Illuminatus, declared
himself to be "the personal enemy of Jesus Christ." He
proclaimed before the Convention of November 17,
1792, "The people is the sovereign and the god of the
world. . . . Only fools believe in any other God, in a
Supreme Being." The Convention then issued a decree
proclaiming "the nullification of all religions."

For those of us who take seriously the words of the
Lord's Prayer, "Deliver us from evil," the meaning is
clear: we implore a loving God to protect us and soci-
ety around us from false doctrine, from pernicious art
that accustoms us to evil under the guise of beauty, and
from immorality in life. Then we need have no fear of
the Devil's snares.

You have a choice: Do you want to become like the
Devil, cruel and vicious, or like Jesus, the God-man of
holy love and peace?

 

[Carla_Danger]

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

Thomas Nelson Bibles

I prefer the KJV but take your pick. Look up Genesis 1:26.

The Bible tells you that in specific, Darwin is the spiritual father of Karl Marx?

No, but it was mentioned in Ayn Rand's book of Social Darwinism. LOL!

 

[Ravi]

Hmmmmmm interesting. Now, define Conservatism.

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the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

Google

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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And once again the far left shows they do not understand any meanings outside their far left programming..

See they have their own definition of a word that usually does not fit reality..

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

So all those southern democrats in the 60's where really far right?

Yes. Were you born yesterday?

 

[Asclepias]

Author of the Bell Curve is a conservative.

Charles Murray political scientist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"Charles Alan Murray (born 1943) is an American paleoconservative and paleolibertarian leaning political scientist, author, columnist, and pundit"

"He first became well known for his Losing Ground: American Social Policy 1950–1980 in 1984, which discussed the American welfare system.[3] He is best known for his controversial book The Bell Curve, co-authored with Richard Herrnstein in 1994, which argues that class and race are linked with intelligence.["

So is the coauthor

Richard Herrnstein 64 Dies - Backed Nature Over Nurture - NYTimes.com

"In the book, Dr. Herrnstein and his co-author, Charles Murray, a political analyst at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative research group in Washington, contend that I.Q. is linked to economic success, criminality and being dependent on welfare. They argue that since I.Q. is fixed by genetics, it cannot be changed meaningfully by environment or learning.

 

[Discombobulated]

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Define Conservatism, say, in 200 words or less.

Because I see too many disparate types running like rats around here, all claiming to be Conservatives, all quite different from each other.

Please do enlighten us.

Go fuck yourself, Herr Moron. Go define it yourself.

Always selling yourself short. I'll bet if you really thought about it you could come up with a substantial list of positive conservative attributes.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Actually these are Wurmbrands words -

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.Full text of Marx And Satan



_________________
Wurmbrand called Darwin the spiritual father to the greatest mass murderer in history - he is of course referring to Marx and the founding of Communism. I had to correct myself here as I was going from memory when stating how Wurmbrand put it. Is Communism entitled to the title greatest mass murderer in history? Most definitely. Communism has been responsible for more death than Hitler, than Mohammad. And quite possibly even the combining of the two would not add up to the mass murder caused by Communism since its inception.

 

[Ravi]

Actually these are Wurmbrands words -

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.

_________________
Wurmbrand called Darwin the spiritual father to the greatest mass murderer in history - he is of course referring to Marx and the founding of Communism. Is Communism entitled to the title greatest mass murderer in history? Most definitely. Communism has been responsible for more death than Hitler, than Mohammad. And quite possibly even the combining of the two would not add up to the mass murder caused by Communism since its inception.

Just when I think you can't post a stupider post than before you come through like a champ.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the most feared book - Communists loathe this book - it exposes them - the greatest book ever written about Marx bar none, Ravi. Read it and learn the truth about Marx. It might even change your mind about the direction you are headed in. (wrong way )

 

[Asclepias]

Actually these are Wurmbrands words -

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.Full text of Marx And Satan



_________________
Wurmbrand called Darwin the spiritual father to the greatest mass murderer in history - he is of course referring to Marx and the founding of Communism. I had to correct myself here as I was going from memory when stating how Wurmbrand put it. Is Communism entitled to the title greatest mass murderer in history? Most definitely. Communism has been responsible for more death than Hitler, than Mohammad. And quite possibly even the combining of the two would not add up to the mass murder caused by Communism since its inception.

Disagree. Capitalism is responsible for more deaths, murders, and genocides than anything in history.