Do USMB Republicans understand the difference between "donor" Blue and "moocher" Red?

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Republicans go on endlessly about Obama and Democrats taking their hard earned money. You people do understand it's Blue States who are the "donor" states and it's RED States that are the "moocher" states?

These Red States have been conservative for over a hundred years and still they are moocher states. How is that explained? And why are Blue States, which are much more diverse, more successful?
 
This is an old study using a disingenuous metric, lumping in all federal spending and comparing it to federal taxes collected. For the point to be valid, and to call red states "moochers," the metric used would have to be federal AID spent in the states.

There is a red state bias in most of the federal budget outlays due to the red states generally having a high proportion of retirees and military bases.
 
This is an old study using a disingenuous metric, lumping in all federal spending and comparing it to federal taxes collected. For the point to be valid, and to call red states "moochers," the metric used would have to be federal AID spent in the states.

There is a red state bias in most of the federal budget outlays due to the red states generally having a high proportion of retirees and military bases.

Dont forget FEDERAL LAND, which larger redder states out west seem to have a ton of.
 
There is also a flaw in the methodology. Instead of measuring the direct taxation of states based on known receipts, it is estimated based on average earnings for a county:

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That creates a bias that underestimates taxes paid in rural and suburban county while overestimating taxes paid in urban counties.
 
This is an old study using a disingenuous metric, lumping in all federal spending and comparing it to federal taxes collected. For the point to be valid, and to call red states "moochers," the metric used would have to be federal AID spent in the states.

There is a red state bias in most of the federal budget outlays due to the red states generally having a high proportion of retirees and military bases.

Dont forget FEDERAL LAND, which larger redder states out west seem to have a ton of.

You're exactly correct, public goods are considered "payments" to the states. So if the Bureau of Land Management seizes a million acres in Wyoming, closes most of it off preventing public use, the value of the land (not the money paid to federal employees living there working on the land) is considered to be a part of the federal allocation of money for the state.
 
This is an old study using a disingenuous metric, lumping in all federal spending and comparing it to federal taxes collected. For the point to be valid, and to call red states "moochers," the metric used would have to be federal AID spent in the states.

There is a red state bias in most of the federal budget outlays due to the red states generally having a high proportion of retirees and military bases.

Dont forget FEDERAL LAND, which larger redder states out west seem to have a ton of.

You're exactly correct, public goods are considered "payments" to the states. So if the Bureau of Land Management seizes a million acres in Wyoming, closes most of it off preventing public use, the value of the land (not the money paid to federal employees living there working on the land) is considered to be a part of the federal allocation of money for the state.

Its also the maintenance and upkeep of said lands, which requires personnel, which requires money.
 
So Republicans have all kinds of reasons Blue States are "donor states" and Red States are "moocher" states, but none of those explanations mean jack.

They want to pretend the economies, the people in power and the policies have nothing to do with it. It's because there is an "Army Base" in that state. Or because Kentucky, at 90% white, has too many black people in it.
 
So Republicans have all kinds of reasons Blue States are "donor states" and Red States are "moocher" states, but none of those explanations mean jack.

They want to pretend the economies, the people in power and the policies have nothing to do with it. It's because there is an "Army Base" in that state. Or because Kentucky, at 90% white, has too many black people in it.

Fort Knox is in Kentucky and one of the largest military bases in the US. I live in New York and is one of the biggest 'donors' as you call it, but it doesn't have a Marine base, Naval base, not even a coast guard base. It has an Air Force Base... Close to Canada. That means something I guess...
 
So Republicans have all kinds of reasons Blue States are "donor states" and Red States are "moocher" states, but none of those explanations mean jack.

They want to pretend the economies, the people in power and the policies have nothing to do with it. It's because there is an "Army Base" in that state. Or because Kentucky, at 90% white, has too many black people in it.

We looked at your numbers and, as usual, found serious issues with how they were presented and sorted.

Also as usual, you are a lying hack.
 
So Republicans have all kinds of reasons Blue States are "donor states" and Red States are "moocher" states, but none of those explanations mean jack.

They want to pretend the economies, the people in power and the policies have nothing to do with it. It's because there is an "Army Base" in that state. Or because Kentucky, at 90% white, has too many black people in it.

Who said anything about race other than you?
 
This is an old study using a disingenuous metric, lumping in all federal spending and comparing it to federal taxes collected. For the point to be valid, and to call red states "moochers," the metric used would have to be federal AID spent in the states.

There is a red state bias in most of the federal budget outlays due to the red states generally having a high proportion of retirees and military bases.

and FARMERS. Don't forget the freaking farmers. They cost taxpayers a fortune.
 
So Republicans have all kinds of reasons Blue States are "donor states" and Red States are "moocher" states, but none of those explanations mean jack.

They want to pretend the economies, the people in power and the policies have nothing to do with it. It's because there is an "Army Base" in that state. Or because Kentucky, at 90% white, has too many black people in it.

^ Couldn't be bothered to read how his "Facts" were totally dissected
 
This is an old study using a disingenuous metric, lumping in all federal spending and comparing it to federal taxes collected. For the point to be valid, and to call red states "moochers," the metric used would have to be federal AID spent in the states.

There is a red state bias in most of the federal budget outlays due to the red states generally having a high proportion of retirees and military bases.

and FARMERS. Don't forget the freaking farmers. They cost taxpayers a fortune.

Republicans cost farmers a fortune:

Alabama Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business

Georgia Crop Losses Could Top $1B

U.S. Farmers Urge Changes to GOP Policies Amid Labor Shortage which could cost 9 billion dollars | TIME.com
 
This is an old study using a disingenuous metric, lumping in all federal spending and comparing it to federal taxes collected. For the point to be valid, and to call red states "moochers," the metric used would have to be federal AID spent in the states.

There is a red state bias in most of the federal budget outlays due to the red states generally having a high proportion of retirees and military bases.

and FARMERS. Don't forget the freaking farmers. They cost taxpayers a fortune.

Republicans cost farmers a fortune:

Alabama Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business

Georgia Crop Losses Could Top $1B

U.S. Farmers Urge Changes to GOP Policies Amid Labor Shortage which could cost 9 billion dollars | TIME.com

No one hurts farmers more than Republicans. In fact, the cost of food is so high because of Republican policies. But if you "vote white", that's what you get.
 

No one hurts farmers more than Republicans. In fact, the cost of food is so high because of Republican policies. But if you "vote white", that's what you get.

It's NOT the new trillion Bernanke is printing annually to prop up the Obamaeconomy

No, Sir

What drove you insane Deany? One day, we'd love to hear the story
 
my gawd, who sits around and thinks up such hateful things?

what a waste of a life

is anything not political to this hateful little person?
 
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