Do You Believe We Came From Monkeys?

[james bond]

Just because you believe this stuff, bond, doesn't make it true.

You're in for a rude awakening. Hopefully it's not for a long time...

I have said this over and over. It's not because of Christian theology that I believe. It's creation science. It's not I who is in for a rude awakening, but you. And it will last for a long, long, long time. Evo needs long time. You reap what you sow.

The words of the prophet (John 3:16) are written on the subway walls and tenement halls.

Wow, that's a dark and cool version of a song that was meant to provide hope. I love it though! That was awesome!!

The original is by Simon & Garfunkel (my sister went to the same HS with them, Forest Hills HS in Queens) , And it is about acknowledging the despair and apocalyptic people on the subway floor.

I'm glad you liked it. It is a dark, somber more heavy metal interpretation of S&G's folksy version. I think it's a song about several things happening in a dream. The main being inability to communicate. An inability to communicate about so many things, and this leads us to not being able to live peacefully together. I think it could cover everything really.

 

[RWS]

True, I loved that cover of it. Thank you.

We need to recognize the issues why we cannot live peacefully together. That's what I'm all about.

The big stumbling block I have encountered is the differences in religion, and that's why I post so much about it.

Everyone thinks they're right about their beliefs. But either one religion/belief, or none, is true and right. There can't be two. How do we get everybody to get along with that concept and understanding, and still live peacefully together?

That's the puzzle we have to figure out...

 

[james bond]

True, I loved that cover of it. Thank you.

We need to recognize the issues why we cannot live peacefully together. That's what I'm all about.

The big stumbling block I have encountered is the differences in religion, and that's why I post so much about it.

Everyone thinks they're right about their beliefs. But either one religion/belief, or none, is true and right. There can't be two. How do we get everybody to get along with that concept and understanding, and still live peacefully together?

That's the puzzle we have to figure out...

The sounds of silence covers everything imho including religion, but this is a science forum. The major ones are politics, war, science, religion and what to watch on TV or which movie to see. I'm just kidding about the last two.

 

[deanrd]

The GOP nominee for Gov in Florida used the term "monkey" when discussing the first black Democratic nominee for Gov.

So I guess Republicans think "monkey" is a very important word.

 

[RWS]

True, I loved that cover of it. Thank you.

We need to recognize the issues why we cannot live peacefully together. That's what I'm all about.

The big stumbling block I have encountered is the differences in religion, and that's why I post so much about it.

Everyone thinks they're right about their beliefs. But either one religion/belief, or none, is true and right. There can't be two. How do we get everybody to get along with that concept and understanding, and still live peacefully together?

That's the puzzle we have to figure out...

The sounds of silence covers everything imho including religion, but this is a science forum. The major ones are politics, war, science, religion and what to watch on TV or which movie to see. I'm just kidding about the last two.

OK I agree. What about the puzzle that humanity needs to solve, before we all wipe each other out over differences in religions? How do we all get along with differences in things as important as life after death?

 

[james bond]

True, I loved that cover of it. Thank you.

We need to recognize the issues why we cannot live peacefully together. That's what I'm all about.

The big stumbling block I have encountered is the differences in religion, and that's why I post so much about it.

Everyone thinks they're right about their beliefs. But either one religion/belief, or none, is true and right. There can't be two. How do we get everybody to get along with that concept and understanding, and still live peacefully together?

That's the puzzle we have to figure out...

The sounds of silence covers everything imho including religion, but this is a science forum. The major ones are politics, war, science, religion and what to watch on TV or which movie to see. I'm just kidding about the last two.

OK I agree. What about the puzzle that humanity needs to solve, before we all wipe each other out over differences in religions? How do we all get along with differences in things as important as life after death?

I hope I don't go too far into this as this is the S&T forum. I want to first preface what you usually think about my beliefs and creation science. My science isn't to reinforce my Christian beliefs. It's science based on what the Bible says or using it as scientific hypothesis. I thought maybe this was what you were getting at.

Now, to your comments. Are you saying the US (mainly Christian) still go to war over religion today? You may not agree, but the religious wars I see is Israel vs Islamic countries and Islam vs atheists over in Europe. The US interest in the Middle East is more poli-economical. It has interests over oil, terrorism and seeing peace between Israel and Islamic countries.

>>What about the puzzle that humanity needs to solve, before we all wipe each other out over differences in religions? How do we all get along with differences in things as important as life after death?<<

I think the puzzle that humanity needs to solve is poli-economical over differences in religion. However, I can't speak for what Islam thinks. Life after death is important, but usually the differences do not lead to war. What are your views?

 

[james bond]

I was going to see 2001: A Space Odyssey in IMAX today, but it already fell off the rotation. It was suppose to play a week and today would've been the last day. Oh well. Anyway, I've it a few times already, but not in IMAX.

What do you think is represented by the monolith? It seems to make any creature that comes into contact with it "evolve." They all have scalar dimensions 1:4:9, so are assumed to be the creation of an extraterrestrial intelligence. They are mysterious black slabs found found on earth as well as the moon, Jupiter and elsewhere . Someone told me that the movie illustrates the contradiction that exists in science about empiricism. In the movie, everyone who found and came into contact with the monolith evolved into something more. How they came to be is not explained. Just that they found the monolith. However, as shown in the movie's final scene, the human embryo is seen as naturally occurring.

How is it, that a mysterious slab of black material created by alien intelligence transform creatures into something that is more infinitely complex such as the human embryo merely by chance? It really can't unless the alien intelligence was advanced enough to create something organic from inorganic materials. I think the film perfectly represents the contraction of evolution and empiricism.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Survival of the fittest was thought to be a fact, but that turned into pseudoscience.

No, it's still a fact.

You just failed another 7th grade science test.

 

[james bond]

Survival of the fittest was thought to be a fact, but that turned into pseudoscience.

No, it's still a fact.

You just failed another 7th grade science test.

LOL. You are not qualified to judge 7th grade science nor 3rd nor 1st grade. You do not understand what it means. I even came up with survival of the fittest as something that was considered fact at one time, but it's changed to mean something else. Who is to say that it won't change again?

Forget 'survival of the fittest' – the laziest will inherit the Earth

You need to go back to 1st grade science I'm afraid.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Survival of the fittest was thought to be a fact, but that turned into pseudoscience.

No, it's still a fact.

You just failed another 7th grade science test.

LOL. You are not qualified to judge 7th grade science nor 3rd nor 1st grade. You do not understand what it means. I even came up with survival of the fittest as something that was considered fact at one time, but it's changed to mean something else. Who is to say that it won't change again?

Forget 'survival of the fittest' – the laziest will inherit the Earth

You need to go back to 1st grade science I'm afraid.

You idiot...that headline is a double entendre on the word, "fit". Damn you just made yourself look stupid.

 

[james bond]

Survival of the fittest was thought to be a fact, but that turned into pseudoscience.

No, it's still a fact.

You just failed another 7th grade science test.

LOL. You are not qualified to judge 7th grade science nor 3rd nor 1st grade. You do not understand what it means. I even came up with survival of the fittest as something that was considered fact at one time, but it's changed to mean something else. Who is to say that it won't change again?

Forget 'survival of the fittest' – the laziest will inherit the Earth

You need to go back to 1st grade science I'm afraid.

You idiot...that headline is a double entendre on the word, "fit". Damn you just made yourself look stupid.

Ha ha. You lost again with ad hominem attack. What is it now? 125 - 0?

 

[RWS]

I think that if we can remove the religious cloud of hatred from the world, we could start seeing clearly, and start to make some change in governments to serve the people, instead of the mongers.

 

[james bond]

I think that if we can remove the religious cloud of hatred from the world, we could start seeing clearly, and start to make some change in governments to serve the people, instead of the mongers.

I can only speak for Christianity and that God presents an objective moral view to guide us all. However, the world has their own view and thus it slides into the god of the world hands.

 

[RWS]

I think that if we can remove the religious cloud of hatred from the world, we could start seeing clearly, and start to make some change in governments to serve the people, instead of the mongers.

I can only speak for Christianity and that God presents an objective moral view to guide us all. However, the world has their own view and thus it slides into the god of the world hands.

That;s the best philosophical quote that I've heard from you. However, it's full of holes from logic, when someone doesn't believe in God. But that was great anyway!

However, I do recall something about you saying that you don't represent Christianity, only the science of creation. Jus sayin. Not wanting to argue a great idealist post, just pointing it out.

I wish your version of things were true.

 

[RWS]

If the whole world could be Christian, and we could wipe out the rest, we may lead more peaceful lives around the planet. Especially after we destroy all the crazy splinter factions that don't agree with the central principle.

However, that requires genocide. I'd rather convince the world to be atheist, or to be more understanding, using logic and truth. It's a lot more peaceful and eco-friendly.

But then, there are the types that are so fanatical, that they may need smiting...

 

[james bond]

If the whole world could be Christian, and we could wipe out the rest, we may lead more peaceful lives around the planet. Especially after we destroy all the crazy splinter factions that don't agree with the central principle.

However, that requires genocide. I'd rather convince the world to be atheist, or to be more understanding, using logic and truth. It's a lot more peaceful and eco-friendly.

But then, there are the types that are so fanatical, that they may need smiting...

Nothing to smile about. Genocide was committed by social Darwinists, eugenicists, Hitler, Planned Parenthood, state atheism, communists and the like. All leftist and atheist leaning groups.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Survival of the fittest was thought to be a fact, but that turned into pseudoscience.

No, it's still a fact.

You just failed another 7th grade science test.

LOL. You are not qualified to judge 7th grade science nor 3rd nor 1st grade. You do not understand what it means. I even came up with survival of the fittest as something that was considered fact at one time, but it's changed to mean something else. Who is to say that it won't change again?

Forget 'survival of the fittest' – the laziest will inherit the Earth

You need to go back to 1st grade science I'm afraid.

You idiot...that headline is a double entendre on the word, "fit". Damn you just made yourself look stupid.

Ha ha. You lost again with ad hominem attack. What is it now? 125 - 0?

Hmm, no, you are still wrong about everything, you still have zero understanding of evolution, and evolution is still an accepted fact. But thanks for asking.

 

[james bond]

Survival of the fittest was thought to be a fact, but that turned into pseudoscience.

No, it's still a fact.

You just failed another 7th grade science test.

LOL. You are not qualified to judge 7th grade science nor 3rd nor 1st grade. You do not understand what it means. I even came up with survival of the fittest as something that was considered fact at one time, but it's changed to mean something else. Who is to say that it won't change again?

Forget 'survival of the fittest' – the laziest will inherit the Earth

You need to go back to 1st grade science I'm afraid.

You idiot...that headline is a double entendre on the word, "fit". Damn you just made yourself look stupid.

Ha ha. You lost again with ad hominem attack. What is it now? 125 - 0?

Hmm, no, you are still wrong about everything, you still have zero understanding of evolution, and evolution is still an accepted fact. But thanks for asking.

Yet, you did not produce one fact in your claimed "mountain of evidence." While I produced a false one. I can easily produce a creation fact. "Every time heat flows from a hot spot to a cold spot, entropy increases." Thus, when the season changes from winter to spring, entropy increases. Every day, the sun provides heat for the earth. Every day, entropy increases.

Evolution is the opposite. "Every time heat flows from a cold spot to a hot spot, entropy decreases." It takes energy (heat) in lightning to supposedly create life (abiogenesis bullsh*t). The earth and universe is closed system, so entropy increases.

 

[RWS]

If the whole world could be Christian, and we could wipe out the rest, we may lead more peaceful lives around the planet. Especially after we destroy all the crazy splinter factions that don't agree with the central principle.

However, that requires genocide. I'd rather convince the world to be atheist, or to be more understanding, using logic and truth. It's a lot more peaceful and eco-friendly.

But then, there are the types that are so fanatical, that they may need smiting...

Nothing to smile about. Genocide was committed by social Darwinists, eugenicists, Hitler, Planned Parenthood, state atheism, communists and the like. All leftist and atheist leaning groups.

All committed by religious fanatics.

Socialism is a religion too. Just as much as any other. It's actually based on Calvinism and Puritanism ideas that we must remove all earthly claims in favor of the state. Or "God" as they called it. Replace "state" with "god", and you have the same thing.

Hitler believed in a religion where the underground gods wanted to wipe out non-believers.

All these genocidal people that have tried to influence us, are trying to trick us to believe in their "god".

Atheists look at this, and say WTF is wrong with these people?!?

 

[RWS]

What's wrong, is religion....

That's the thing that ties all human mass-insanity together.