Do you think Trump would have won if?

[pknopp]

The C-in-C still has to have the authority to spend money on what he wants to do. And congress tied Obama's hands with the anti-deficiency act.

Budgets never over ride the Constitution.

Sure they do. The president is commander in chief, but if congress doesn't fund an army or a navy, he has nobody to command. If congress defunded the military, the president would have nothing to carry out his duty with.

Think.

The Congress never over rides the Constitution. Can Congress simply decide they will not fund elections?

 

[meaner gene]

We were never intended to be a country that holds people forever without any sort of trial.

You can thank Sandra Day O'Connor for her part of the decision which said people could be held at GITMO, because they assumed the war on terror, like any war would come to an end in a few years. And like POW's, can be held until it's conclusion. So there was no rush to dispose of them in any other manner.

 

[pknopp]

We were never intended to be a country that holds people forever without any sort of trial.

You can thank Sandra Day O'Connor for her part of the decision which said people could be held at GITMO, because they assumed the war on terror, like any war would come to an end in a few years. And like POW's, can be held until it's conclusion. So there was no rush to dispose of them in any other manner.

They could be held at Gitmo. I never argued they couldn't.

 

[Kondor3]

Let's imagine for a moment mainstream media supported Trump instead of Biden because they're conservative instead.

They wouldn't have assaulted Trump with 24/7 BS propaganda since before his election, but never mind that. Let's say they do Biden as they do Trump, but the kicker is in Biden's case it's all true. So, 24/7 Biden instead of Trump, and here it goes.

Biden has a history of making racist remarks.

Biden supported legislation segregating blacks.

45 years & Biden is a politician ONLY. His only real accomplishments is plagiarizing, and he demonstrates a history of outright lies concerning his accomplishments.

Biden sold out his family who were tragically killed used as a sale's pitch. The biggest liar on Earth and he's clearly morally corrupt.

Biden talks to people like a fucking asshole, which also demonstrates he's a coward. He speaks to everyone like they're beneath him & don't need to know.

Meanwhile Biden hasn't accomplished dick.

Biden is a creepy, he feels he's entitled to paw young girls and women he's never met.

Biden's son is also very creepy, figure Joe on cocaine. Hunter is clearly morally corrupt, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Biden uses his influence in Ukraine to help "his son's" business ventures.

Biden uses his influence throughout the world to help "his son's" business ventures of which the big guy gets 10%.

Biden is clearly in serious cognitive decline, and unfit to do anything beyond walking his dog assuming he doesn't break another foot.

Biden's connections throughout the world 24/7 news.

Yeah it was Hunter's laptop.

Biden accusations of sexual misconduct, yeah go figure, he paws young girls too.

Kamala is clearly a sociopath, even her own party rejected her because she has the character a snake.

Biden selected the Kosher-Commie as his running mate because she's a black female, insulting both blacks & females.

So at this point does Trump win? How about?

Democrats exploited COVID to influence the election.

Democrats exploited racism & riots (Floyd etc) to influence the election.

Democrats used fear & fraud to influence an election.

At this point does Trump win? Remember, we're playing MSM prefers Trump, so how about?

Trump is the most accomplished POTUS in history. Changes positive for the best interests the country he serves.

The establishment detests Trump, we're REAL REPORTING now and Trump is an outsider.

Trump has GREAT taste in women, first rate. Stormy Daniels was just a thing, who cares who he fucks so long as he's doing a bitchen job.

Trump's blunt honesty is refreshing. It's also refreshing our leader is not a politician, especially a career politician like Xiden.

Trump was a success in business, Democrats get rich after they've been elected POTUS.

Left entertains the lowest common denominators and attempt to make them mainstream.

Left sucks ass.

Oh, and pretend conservatives run education systems too. Our only political influence is we teach people how to read between the lines on Demoncrats

At this point does Trump win?

Could'a... should'a.... would'a...

The only poll that mattered was the one held on November 3, 2020...

And the Orange Baboon-God lost that one... bigly...

By 7 million popular votes...

By 74 electoral college votes...

He lost by a blowout...

Stop wasting time reliving Alternate Universe Fantasies...

Get cracking on winning in 2022 or 2024... find a better Standard Bearer... fine-tune your policy-agenda and make it more palatable and sell-able...

It's already been 5 months since November 3rd and you're still burnin'-up daylight pi$$ing and moaning about your coulda-shoulda-woulda's...

Show us you're serious again by figuring-out and admitting where you phukked-up in 2020 and then go fix it...

The clock has already been ticking for a while, and you're running outta time.

 

[meaner gene]

The Congress never over rides the Constitution. Can Congress simply decide they will not fund elections?

Congress doesn't fund elections, states do. And if congress doesn't provide the funding to do something, it doesn't get done.

If congress decided to cut all funding to the office of the president. They would have to lay off the staff, and close the white house.
Of course there would be a backdoor way of keeping the white house open, but that involves felonies and pardons, and subjects the president to impeachment and removal from office.

 

[meaner gene]

They could be held at Gitmo. I never argued they couldn't.

The republicans stoped Obama from closing GITMO by putting the requirement to keep it open into the DOD budget.
With a prohibition of spending any money to close it.

 

[pknopp]

The Congress never over rides the Constitution. Can Congress simply decide they will not fund elections?

Congress doesn't fun elections, states do. And if congress doesn't provide the funding to do something, it doesn't get done.

If congress decided to cut all funding to the office of the president. They would have to lay off the staff, and close the white house.
Of course there would be a backdoor way of keeping the white house open, but that involves felonies and pardons, and subjects the president to impeachment and removal from office.

Congress can't over ride the Constitution. We have a ton of prisons.

 

[meaner gene]

It's called the power of the purse. If congress doesn't pay for it, there is no legal way to get the money from the treasury.

That's why Ronald Reagan got in trouble when he tried to fund the Contras by selling arms, because congress said he couldn't spend treasury funds.

Think.

 

[meaner gene]

Congress can't over ride the Constitution. We have a ton of prisons.

Congress has a duty to perform the duties of congress, but there is no mechanism other than replace them through election to force them into actually doing it.

If congress decided they weren't going to write another budget, or another spending authorization, everything would shut down.

 

[meaner gene]

The constitution says that only congress can write federal law.
If congress chooses not to, guess what?

That's why there's no immigration reform.

 

[Lastamender]

Why not? What other evidence do they have or can find? You cannot say someone is murdered by someone not charged with murder.

WOW. JFK was never murdered. Nobody was charged.

Not the same and you know it. Try again.

 

[pknopp]

Congress can't over ride the Constitution. We have a ton of prisons.

Congress has a duty to perform the duties of congress, but there is no mechanism other than replace them through election to force them into actually doing it.

If congress decided they weren't going to write another budget, or another spending authorization, everything would shut down.

There is/was a ton of money budgeted. When Congress wouldn't pass new money, Trump found it elsewhere. Obama had NO desire to close Gitmo.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Why I didn’t vote for Trump is because he wouldn’t shut up... Had Trump just shut up and did his job without the constant Twitter nonsense he would have won!

 

[lennypartiv]

The only poll that mattered was the one held on November 3, 2020...

And votes for Biden mysteriously appeared on November 4.

 

[MadChemist]

The media was full on behind Hillary and she still lost.

Why do you need someone to blame? Get better candidates.

The media can't guarantee a win.

But they sure can influence what people do.

A few votes in the right places and ...viola.

 

[pknopp]

The media was full on behind Hillary and she still lost.

Why do you need someone to blame? Get better candidates.

The media can't guarantee a win.

But they sure can influence what people do.

A few votes in the right places and ...viola.

How did they influence your vote?

 

[my2¢]

I voted "yes". The media had a field day with Trump. I thought it was shameful and likened it to the joke about telling an idiot to go sit in the corner of a round room. Only exception was that in this case the room was an oval office. I believe Trump would have won if he hadn't lowered himself to their level each time they looked at him crosseyed. He's really insecure so I'll give him the benefit of doubt that if treated with kid gloves things would have been different.

 

[rightwinger]

The scary part is that view by Historians was before COVID, before Trumps post election disruption and before the Jan 6 attack on the Capitol

History will not be kind to Trump or those who pandered to him or voted for him

Yep - History 50 years from now will hopefully teach our younguns that we very nearly became an autocracy ruled by a fucking dictator. A "King of PAIN" for the American people #ItsTheirSoulUpThere

I dread how history will view the Trump era 50 years from now.

Hopefully, we will have learned from it rather than it being the start of something worse

 

[rightwinger]

I voted "yes". The media had a field day with Trump. I thought it was shameful and likened it to the joke about telling an idiot to go sit in the corner of a round room. Only exception was that in this case the room was an oval office. I believe Trump would have won if he hadn't lowered himself to their level each time they looked at him crosseyed. He's really insecure so I'll give him the benefit of doubt that if treated with kid gloves things would have been different.

I really doubt that the media created Trump

They reacted to the despot they were given. Trump lied, they reported he lied. Trump acted like an ass, they reported he acted like an ass.

 

[Crepitus]

Let's imagine for a moment mainstream media supported Trump instead of Biden because they're conservative instead.

They wouldn't have assaulted Trump with 24/7 BS propaganda since before his election, but never mind that. Let's say they do Biden as they do Trump, but the kicker is in Biden's case it's all true. So, 24/7 Biden instead of Trump, and here it goes.

Biden has a history of making racist remarks.

Biden supported legislation segregating blacks.

45 years & Biden is a politician ONLY. His only real accomplishments is plagiarizing, and he demonstrates a history of outright lies concerning his accomplishments.

Biden sold out his family who were tragically killed used as a sale's pitch. The biggest liar on Earth and he's clearly morally corrupt.

Biden talks to people like a fucking asshole, which also demonstrates he's a coward. He speaks to everyone like they're beneath him & don't need to know.

Meanwhile Biden hasn't accomplished dick.

Biden is a creepy, he feels he's entitled to paw young girls and women he's never met.

Biden's son is also very creepy, figure Joe on cocaine. Hunter is clearly morally corrupt, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Biden uses his influence in Ukraine to help "his son's" business ventures.

Biden uses his influence throughout the world to help "his son's" business ventures of which the big guy gets 10%.

Biden is clearly in serious cognitive decline, and unfit to do anything beyond walking his dog assuming he doesn't break another foot.

Biden's connections throughout the world 24/7 news.

Yeah it was Hunter's laptop.

Biden accusations of sexual misconduct, yeah go figure, he paws young girls too.

Kamala is clearly a sociopath, even her own party rejected her because she has the character a snake.

Biden selected the Kosher-Commie as his running mate because she's a black female, insulting both blacks & females.

So at this point does Trump win? How about?

Democrats exploited COVID to influence the election.

Democrats exploited racism & riots (Floyd etc) to influence the election.

Democrats used fear & fraud to influence an election.

At this point does Trump win? Remember, we're playing MSM prefers Trump, so how about?

Trump is the most accomplished POTUS in history. Changes positive for the best interests the country he serves.

The establishment detests Trump, we're REAL REPORTING now and Trump is an outsider.

Trump has GREAT taste in women, first rate. Stormy Daniels was just a thing, who cares who he fucks so long as he's doing a bitchen job.

Trump's blunt honesty is refreshing. It's also refreshing our leader is not a politician, especially a career politician like Xiden.

Trump was a success in business, Democrats get rich after they've been elected POTUS.

Left entertains the lowest common denominators and attempt to make them mainstream.

Left sucks ass.

Oh, and pretend conservatives run education systems too. Our only political influence is we teach people how to read between the lines on Demoncrats

At this point does Trump win?

Your fantasies make interesting fiction, but that's all they are.