Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....

[expatriate]

we have long had anti-trust laws. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

To not understand a principle which you've picked more for it's simplicity than applicability or relevance is only slightly worse than to be nieve, and to not understand all the relevant aspects of the world and what people want and do on a regular basis.

typical liberal talking gibberish because he lacks IQ for substance

This from the guy who claimed that sick people are a health insurance company's favorite customers!

Pot....meet kettle!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

To not understand a principle which you've picked more for it's simplicity than applicability or relevance is only slightly worse than to be nieve, and to not understand all the relevant aspects of the world and what people want and do on a regular basis.

typical liberal talking gibberish because he lacks IQ for substance

To not understand a simple principle is only slightly worse than to be completely nieve and not understand how the world works.

Though to be a troll, more or less, is worse than either, imo......

personal attack becuase typical liberals lacks IQ for substance

 

[pjnlsn]

typical liberal talking gibberish because he lacks IQ for substance

To not understand a simple principle is only slightly worse than to be completely nieve and not understand how the world works.

Though to be a troll, more or less, is worse than either, imo......

personal attack becuase typical liberals lacks IQ for substance

"To not understand a simple principle is only slightly worse than to be completely nieve and not understand how the world works."

The above post is not quite deserving of a serious, direct response.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The above post is not quite deserving of a serious, direct response.

This works on the same principle as nineteenth century markets. No restrictions, so prices were guaranteed to be lower and lower.
Uh, but monopolies developed, cornered markets, controlled prices and gouged everyone.
How does that work again?

Actually we have long had anti-trust laws to prevent monopolies. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

 

[pjnlsn]

The above post is not quite deserving of a serious, direct response.

This works on the same principle as nineteenth century markets. No restrictions, so prices were guaranteed to be lower and lower.
Uh, but monopolies developed, cornered markets, controlled prices and gouged everyone.
How does that work again?

Actually we have long had anti-trust laws to prevent monopolies. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

What I wrote was that not understanding a simple principle is only slightly worse than being completely naive as regards people.

In this case, naive refers to thinking that when a law is passed, what it intended to prevent suddenly becomes completely and utterly impossible, or that (suddenly) people will stop wanting the thing in question, a monopoly controlled by them?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The above post is not quite deserving of a serious, direct response.

This works on the same principle as nineteenth century markets. No restrictions, so prices were guaranteed to be lower and lower.
Uh, but monopolies developed, cornered markets, controlled prices and gouged everyone.
How does that work again?

Actually we have long had anti-trust laws to prevent monopolies. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

PJNLSN: [capitalism does not work] monopolies developed, cornered markets, controlled prices and gouged everyone.
How does that work again?

Edward: Actually we have long had anti-trust laws to prevent monopolies. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

 

[pjnlsn]

PJNLSN: [capitalism does not work] monopolies developed, cornered markets, controlled prices and gouged everyone.
How does that work again?

Edward: Actually we have long had anti-trust laws to prevent monopolies. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

Because your brain has difficulty processing written language, among other things? And again, ...

This works on the same principle as nineteenth century markets. No restrictions, so prices were guaranteed to be lower and lower.
Uh, but monopolies developed, cornered markets, controlled prices and gouged everyone.
How does that work again?

we have long had anti-trust laws. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

What I wrote was that not understanding a simple principle is only slightly worse than being completely naive as regards people.

In this case, naive refers to thinking that when a law is passed, what it intended to prevent suddenly becomes completely and utterly impossible, or that (suddenly) people will stop wanting the thing in question, a monopoly controlled by them?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

PJNLSN: [capitalism does not work] monopolies developed, cornered markets, controlled prices and gouged everyone.
How does that work again?

Edward: Actually we have long had anti-trust laws to prevent monopolies. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

Because your brain has difficulty processing written language, among other things? And again, ...

we have long had anti-trust laws. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

What I wrote was that not understanding a simple principle is only slightly worse than being completely naive as regards people.

In this case, naive refers to thinking that when a law is passed, what it intended to prevent suddenly becomes completely and utterly impossible, or that (suddenly) people will stop wanting the thing in question, a monopoly controlled by them?

Microsoft was judged to be a monopoly. But, it has very very low prices so everyone can afford to buy its products and very very high quality to discourage new competition.

Monopoly is a non issue since capitalism takes care of it, and if not anti-monopoly laws do.

Capitalism is beauty and truth. As soon as China switched 20 million could suddenly buy cars rather than slowly starve to death under liberalism.

 

[Toronado3800]

PJNLSN: [capitalism does not work] monopolies developed, cornered markets, controlled prices and gouged everyone.
How does that work again?

Edward: Actually we have long had anti-trust laws to prevent monopolies. Sorry!!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??

Because your brain has difficulty processing written language, among other things? And again, ...

What I wrote was that not understanding a simple principle is only slightly worse than being completely naive as regards people.

In this case, naive refers to thinking that when a law is passed, what it intended to prevent suddenly becomes completely and utterly impossible, or that (suddenly) people will stop wanting the thing in question, a monopoly controlled by them?

Microsoft was judged to be a monopoly. But, it has very very low prices so everyone can afford to buy its products and very very high quality to discourage new competition.

Monopoly is a non issue since capitalism takes care of it, and if not anti-monopoly laws do.

Capitalism is beauty and truth. As soon as China switched 20 million could suddenly buy cars rather than slowly starve to death under liberalism.

So monopolies are taken care of by liberal anti monopoly laws.

Say it, say it lol.

Just messin with ya because u sprew out all that name callin.

I hate it when we agree because your tone makes folks think you're an idiot and you must be wrong.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So monopolies are taken care of by liberal anti monopoly laws.

Say it, say it lol.

there are millions and millions of capitalist businesses and almost no capitalist monopolies but there are a huge number of government monopolies that, oddly, a liberal doesn't worry much about, not even if they are the ones in China and Russia that slowly starved 120 million to death. In fact our liberals spied for Stalin


Anti-monopoly laws are probably not liberal or conservative. Sorry

 

[Toronado3800]

So monopolies are taken care of by liberal anti monopoly laws.

Say it, say it lol.

there are millions and millions of capitalist businesses and almost no capitalist monopolies but there are a huge number of government monopolies that, oddly, a liberal doesn't worry much about, not even if they are the ones in China and Russia that slowly starved 120 million to death. In fact our liberals spied for Stalin


Anti-monopoly laws are probably not liberal or conservative. Sorry

Anti monopoly laws are big government saving our rears.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So monopolies are taken care of by liberal anti monopoly laws.

Say it, say it lol.

there are millions and millions of capitalist businesses and almost no capitalist monopolies but there are a huge number of government monopolies that, oddly, a liberal doesn't worry much about, not even if they are the ones in China and Russia that slowly starved 120 million to death. In fact our liberals spied for Stalin


Anti-monopoly laws are probably not liberal or conservative. Sorry

Anti monopoly laws are big government saving our rears.

too stupid!! As i said the monopolies are in very liberal countries and America if Obama gets single payer as he wants. Capitalism stops monopolies by it very nature which is competitive not monopolistic.

Anti-trust laws and policemen are small government protecting freedom and capitalism.

 

[Toronado3800]

there are millions and millions of capitalist businesses and almost no capitalist monopolies but there are a huge number of government monopolies that, oddly, a liberal doesn't worry much about, not even if they are the ones in China and Russia that slowly starved 120 million to death. In fact our liberals spied for Stalin


Anti-monopoly laws are probably not liberal or conservative. Sorry

Anti monopoly laws are big government saving our rears.

too stupid!! As i said the monopolies are in very liberal countries and America if Obama gets single payer as he wants. Capitalism stops monopolies by it very nature which is competitive not monopolistic.

Anti-trust laws and policemen are small government protecting freedom and capitalism.

While I agree with you anti monopoly laws are good, I question your view of them as small government.

Never the less we agree! Hey, who broke up AT&T/Ma Bell?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

While I agree with you anti monopoly laws are good, I question your view of them as small government.

dear, small governemnt protects freedom and capitalism, big government steals businesses, bankrupts them , and millions slowly starve to death

 

[Toronado3800]

While I agree with you anti monopoly laws are good, I question your view of them as small government.

dear, small governemnt protects freedom and capitalism, big government steals businesses, bankrupts them , and millions slowly starve to death

Well anyway. The AT&T breakup started under Nixon/Ford, stretched through Carter and ended with Reagan1. So all used their power from DC to break up that company.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Wher in the world has this been shown to be the case?

 

[t_polkow]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl_TD7yppBM[/ame]

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl_TD7yppBM[/ame]

so then you agree capitalism would cut health care costs by 70%

 

[t_polkow]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl_TD7yppBM[/ame]

so then you agree capitalism would cut health care costs by 70%

Nope, capitalism and the free market has made health care just a business based on profits. If you get a chance watch the movie where Doctors are saying health care has changed since corp America got involved. The medical and Pharma Industry is running the show , not the medical community . Their focus is to maximizing profits not delivering health care.

To get a sense of how out of whack American health care costs are, we need only look to Canada, a society whose standard of living and culture are very similar to that of the United States. Per person, the U.S. spends almost double what Canada does on health care, yet American health outcomes, like life expectancy, rank lower. And opinion polls show Canadians by large majorities are generally satisfied with their health system.

A main reason is that half a century ago Canada implemented government-funded, pick-your-own-doctor Medicare for all, removing a lot of costly inefficiency -- and handsome profits -- from the system. And of course the "public option" to create a U.S. version of this was summarily taken off the table when Congress debated the 2009 health care reform, this was done with lobbying pressure from the Health insurance industry who's sole purpose to to maximize profits and keep control of the health care in the United States.

These Are The 36 Countries That Have Better Healthcare Systems Than The US

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/best-healthcare-systems-in-the-world-2012-6?op=1#ixzz2NGs18DLj

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

capitalism and the free market has made health care just a business based on profits.

I see I have to start in kindergarten with you. Firstly, there is no capitalism!

The six major government health care programs—Medicare, Medicaid, the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), the Department of Defense TRICARE and TRICARE for Life programs (DOD TRICARE), the Veterans Health Administration (VHA) program, and the Indian Health Service (IHS) program are not capitalist!!!!Can you grasp that????

Plus, the government has made competition illegal between health care insurance companies!

Finally, profit is beauty and truth: 2 guys make nails, 2 guys are doctors. One guy makes better nails and one guy is a better doctor. Therefore they get more customers and make more profit, and people get better nails and better health care.

Imagine a soviet like system where profit was illegal and everyone slowly starved to death becuase there was no incentive to do better.