Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....

[bronko]

I am originally from Europe and I can tell you that the European Socialist healthcare sucks. I have a lot better experience here in the states. But even me experience it at first hand I am having a hard time to convince a neo-Liberal. The US healthcare going dow because it's trying the imitate the European version.. It started eroding since government stepped in to it few decades ago but still the best...

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I am originally from Europe and I can tell you that the European Socialist healthcare sucks. I have a lot better experience here in the states. But even me experience it at first hand I am having a hard time to convince a neo-Liberal. The US healthcare going dow because it's trying the imitate the European version.. It started eroding since government stepped in to it few decades ago but still the best...

yes, our liberals are very very slow. They lack the IQ to see that a government bureaucracy/monopoly is very very very inefficient at best. They treasonously want socialism in health care and in all industries.

 

[Toronado3800]

I am originally from Europe and I can tell you that the European Socialist healthcare sucks. I have a lot better experience here in the states. But even me experience it at first hand I am having a hard time to convince a neo-Liberal. The US healthcare going dow because it's trying the imitate the European version.. It started eroding since government stepped in to it few decades ago but still the best...

yes, our liberals are very very slow. They lack the IQ to see that a government bureaucracy/monopoly is very very very inefficient at best. They treasonously want socialism in health care and in all industries.

Got it. Slow like a fella who can not answer a three part question or that last simple one about Chinese small government.

Think Edward.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Got it. Slow like a fella who can not answer a three part question or that last simple one about Chinese small government.

Think Edward.

Will the idiot liberal please state the most substantive question for which he dishonestly claims conservatism has no answer, or admit as a liberal he lacks the IQ to do so.

 

[Toronado3800]

Got it. Slow like a fella who can not answer a three part question or that last simple one about Chinese small government.

Think Edward.

Will the idiot liberal please state the most substantive question for which he dishonestly claims conservatism has no answer, or admit as a liberal he lacks the IQ to do so.

Ed, you remind me of this man from Bosnia I knew. You would think he was a 12 year old girl when it came to conversation. He played all these word games and would pretend to forget things. Then he woukd always be waving around hjs wallet asking for gas money back if he was wasting his tine bartering or something.

I posting them questions several times in your topics. Guess people will always just think you either can't read the questions or have no answer.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Got it. Slow like a fella who can not answer a three part question or that last simple one about Chinese small government.

Think Edward.

Will the idiot liberal please state the most substantive question for which he dishonestly claims conservatism has no answer, or admit as a liberal he lacks the IQ to do so.

Ed, you remind me of this man from Bosnia I knew. You would think he was a 12 year old girl when it came to conversation. He played all these word games and would pretend to forget things. Then he woukd always be waving around hjs wallet asking for gas money back if he was wasting his tine bartering or something.

I posting them questions several times in your topics. Guess people will always just think you either can't read the questions or have no answer.

Will the idiot liberal please state the most substantive question for which he dishonestly claims conservatism has no answer, or admit as a liberal he lacks the IQ to do so.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I am originally from Europe and I can tell you that the European Socialist healthcare sucks. I have a lot better experience here in the states. But even me experience it at first hand I am having a hard time to convince a neo-Liberal. The US healthcare going dow because it's trying the imitate the European version.. It started eroding since government stepped in to it few decades ago but still the best...

yes, our liberals are very very slow. They lack the IQ to see that a government bureaucracy/monopoly is very very very inefficient at best. They treasonously want socialism in health care and in all industries.

You stupid dumbass twit.

We NOW have a socialistic system. If you don't pay, I have to pay for you.

Obamacare requires YOU to pay for your insurance.

WHY is that so fucking hard for you to GET??

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I really wish rw's would look up the definitions of words and labels before they start throwing them around.

Totally agree. Same with lw's.

Would you mind taking it upon yourself to explain to dumb Edward that "capitalism" is not synonymous with Communism?

Thanks ever so much.

 

[freedombecki]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

They have the IQ to understand it, Edward.

They are easily swayed into herd mentality, though, and it's easier to follow the leader than to be one.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

They have the IQ to understand it, Edward.

They are easily swayed into herd mentality, though, and it's easier to follow the leader than to be one.

Well it seems to me if they had the intelligence they would not need to so quickly follow the Marxist herd. If you ever see an example of where a liberal shows that he understands capitalism please bring it to my attention. Thanks for all your posts!

 

[dblack]

I really wish rw's would look up the definitions of words and labels before they start throwing them around.

Totally agree. Same with lw's.

Would you mind taking it upon yourself to explain to dumb Edward that "capitalism" is not synonymous with Communism?

Thanks ever so much.

I'll leave special Ed to his own devices. He seems content with his views as they are.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I really wish rw's would look up the definitions of words and labels before they start throwing them around.

Totally agree. Same with lw's.

Would you mind taking it upon yourself to explain to dumb Edward that "capitalism" is not synonymous with Communism?

Thanks ever so much.

if I intentionally said they were synonymous I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away once again with your liberal strawman between your legs.

 

[dblack]

I really wish rw's would look up the definitions of words and labels before they start throwing them around.

Totally agree. Same with lw's.

Would you mind taking it upon yourself to explain to dumb Edward that "capitalism" is not synonymous with Communism?

Thanks ever so much.

Luddly, on second thought, I'll make a deal with you. I'll get Ed up to speed on socialism and capitalism, if you look up corporatism - and acknowledge that PPACA is a textbook example.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I'll get Ed up to speed on socialism and capitalism,

please show where I'm not up to speed or admit you lack the IQ to do so. Thanks

 

[dblack]

I'll get Ed up to speed on socialism and capitalism,

please show where I'm not up to speed or admit you lack the IQ to do so. Thanks

For starters, your repeated claim that China is some kind of free market success story. It's not.

Also, your claims that Obama is a socialist. He's not.

But that's not really what Luddly's talking about. He's pointing out that we have a fair amount of socialism forced on us already, and he's using the problems caused by those policies as justification for a corporatist agenda. Fairly shameful in my view.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

For starters, your repeated claim that China is some kind of free market success story. It's not.

why not read: "Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics"

"How China Became Capitalist" or listen to Fareed Zakaria a liberal explain how capitalism in China just eliminated 40% of world poverty???????????????????????????????

Also, your claims that Obama is a socialist. He's not.

2 communist parents, supports single payer, voted to left of Bernie Sanders.

But that's not really what Luddly's talking about. He's pointing out that we have a fair amount of socialism forced on us already, and he's using the problems caused by those policies as justification for a corporatist agenda. Fairly shameful in my view.

I agree, liberals want more and more government but when it causes a soviet Solyndra problem or a financial crisis they turn a blind eye because they lack the IQ to explain whats happening.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Does a liberal have the IQ to understand how Republican capitalist health care.....would work???

Patients would be spending their own money so the incentive to decrease costs would increase 1000%

Providers would be competing on price and quality to survive. This would decrease costs another 1000%

It would save every American about $5000 a year.

They have the IQ to understand it, Edward.

They are easily swayed into herd mentality, though, and it's easier to follow the leader than to be one.

Good gawd. Another one who has no clue what EMTALA really is and that it was put into place by your hero, brain-dead Reagan.

How is it possible that so many rw's believe that EMTALA is not socialism while believing that paying for your own health care insurance with ObamaCare IS socialism.

Or, more likely, they DO know and they just like being on the public dole. Just like their congress men.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Totally agree. Same with lw's.

Would you mind taking it upon yourself to explain to dumb Edward that "capitalism" is not synonymous with Communism?

Thanks ever so much.

Luddly, on second thought, I'll make a deal with you. I'll get Ed up to speed on socialism and capitalism, if you look up corporatism - and acknowledge that PPACA is a textbook example.

Not a chance. You and I have been round and round enough on that and we will never agree. I have limited time I'm willing to blow off on this board and I'm sure as hell not gonna use it that way. Read the miles of previous posts and pretend the date is different. Or, just read the condensed version of my opinion: Pay your own way.

As for Ed dear, its his confusion about capitalism v communism that is getting him messed up. He believes that China is capitalistic and the US is Communistic. He's got some other wacko "ideas" but start there.

(Heh, just heard a little sound, turned to find a raccoon peeking in my door. I took those humming bird feeders down just in time. One night, we looked out to find him hanging from one and the sugar water coursing down his front. I imagine he was very popular when he got home that night. Or, maybe he stayed out in the woods and washed it all off himself. Yummy stuff.)

 

[dblack]

Would you mind taking it upon yourself to explain to dumb Edward that "capitalism" is not synonymous with Communism?

Thanks ever so much.

Luddly, on second thought, I'll make a deal with you. I'll get Ed up to speed on socialism and capitalism, if you look up corporatism - and acknowledge that PPACA is a textbook example.

Not a chance. You and I have been round and round enough on that and we will never agree. I have limited time I'm willing to blow off on this board and I'm sure as hell not gonna use it that way. Read the miles of previous posts and pretend the date is different. Or, just read the condensed version of my opinion: Pay your own way.

"Pay your own way" is a simple approach and requires only that government stay the hell out of our personal health and financial decisions. PPACA is the opposite.

Here's what you don't seem to get about the concept of responsibility. Responsibility is about being accountable for the decisions we make. If there is no freedom to make those decisions, if they are made for us via government mandate, there is no responsibility. PPACA is explicitly about alleviating individuals of the responsibility of managing their own health care expenses, reducing it to a matter of following orders and "tithing" to the corporate insurance cartel.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

As for Ed dear, its his confusion about capitalism v communism that is getting him messed up. He believes that China is capitalistic and the US is Communistic.

if you have evidence of that I"ll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman tail between your legs, once again.