Does anyone actually think that Donald Trump would make a good President?

He's a mover and shaker and business savvy. He's obviously succeeded in business more often than he's failed.

BTW- some undocumented immigrants ARE rapists and criminals.

Just sayin'...

When you look at the balance sheets, you see that he's a lot better at branding himself than he is at actually running businesses.

But even so, there are a lot of more successful businessmen in the world than Donald Trump. Is that a qualification for President? Mitt Romney was a successful businessman, too.
He would have been a lot better President than that POS we have as POTUS right now. A successful Community Organizer is less qualified to be our President than a successful businessman. All the Community Organizer has to master is how to persuade the community to believe his lies. Obama is GREAT at that. Trump is fearlessly honest about what he says.
 
There's been a lot of Trump support recently on the boards, but it's almost always been couched in anti-liberal rhetoric - along the lines of "I like Trump because he makes liberals upset". I have yet to see anyone put there cards on the table and publicly state that they think he would be a good President.

So here we go. Let's here some positive things about Donald Trump from the resident supporters.

What qualities does Donald Trump have that would make him a good President?

In times of universal deceit, truth is a revolutionary act.

Trump tells the truth. Does this mean he would be a good president? Not at all - but what he does is needed. The viable Republicans dare not be honest, lest they be savaged by the demagogues of the Khmer Rouge and their press.
 
It didn't need to be "pinned on" anybody --- the public simply says, this is a disaster, who's in charge? And the answer is "Bush", and then they see this:

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-- a self-immolating prophecy.

Now with the disaster of the Obama presidency, people say "this is a disaster, who's in charge?" And Obama answers "Bush..."
 
Supporting a guy like Trump -- which, in a way, is a misnomer, since I really can't think of anyone else quite like him -- out of sheer frustration and exasperation is understandable, I guess. But basing support on those emotions doesn't seem very rational.

I can't imagine him dealing with Congress or (especially) relating to leaders on the world stage He gives the notion of "loose cannon" an all new depth, and we need more reasonable people in power right now. More humility, much less bombast.

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Trump's problem is he can't fire congressman that opposed him, bully foreign heads of state, and end media harassment by telling them it's none of their bossiness.

On the first point, you are right. I think Trump would find it frustrating having to deal with a recalcitrant congress, probably even members of his own party. On the other two points, I don't see why he couldn't "bully foreign leaders" or tell the media to fuck off.

That said, I think he would surprise folks on how well he handled foreign leaders. Trump did not get where he is by not being able to get along with people. He has had to cut deals with people he didn't like or didn't politically agree with. It's not personal with him, it's business.

I also think this attribute would translate well to dealing with Congress. Yes, he probably would have some problems, but I can see him getting on the phone and persuading stubborn congresmen to go along with his ideas... he has that gift. As my Dad used to say, he could sell ice to an Eskimo. He's a wheeler-dealer who can find ways to make things happen that he wants to happen.
A president's success is most often achieved not by pummeling opponents into submission but by schmoozing instead. This is particular the case with heads of state. If you insult and belittle someone like Putin, you make it impossible to work with him. Heads of state can't be seen as being week and bullied or they loose support at home and possibly their job.

The media is a president's best ally or worst enemy. He needs media support to push bills through congress to support his programs. A president that thinks he can tell the media to fuck off is doomed to failure because most of the public's perception of the president and his programs comes not from words of the president but the interpretation and spin created by the media.

One of the biggest problems we have right now is that Obama and Putin don't like each other. It has created a dynamic where Putin is now working with China... something people have said for years is exactly what we don't want to happen... well, it is happening because Obama doesn't like Putin. I think Trump and Putin would get along fine... Trump thinks so as well, he said as much in Phoenix the other day.

Trump isn't some idiotic hothead who doesn't know how to get along with people... he deals with people he doesn't like every day. And he'll tell you that he doesn't like them, they aren't nice people. Unlike Obama, he can separate his personal feelings from business.

As for the media... Trump (in case you haven't noticed) LOVES media attention! He is as comfortable as a cat in catnip talking to members of the media... LOVES IT... LIVES FOR IT! Basks in the spotlight of it! ...What he doesn't do is put up with stupid bonehead questions. Like the other day when a reporter asked him if he owned a gun. Yes, he answered. Then they asked if he had a conceal-carry permit... Yes, I do, he said. Then they asked if he carried a weapon...That's none of your business, he said. And he was right... it's not anybody's business.

That's what I really do like about Trump... he is a no-bullshit kinda guy... he's just going to tell you what he thinks whether it's what you want to hear or not. He told Conservatives the other day in Phoenix-- "We need to repeal and replace Obamacare, and we need to replace it with something that works and that covers everybody.... sorry Conservatives, I love you guys, but we have to cover everybody... get used to it." Now that may not sit well with some Conservatives but Trump isn't concerned with that. He's not going to march to someone else's drum.
A no nonsense guy who calls a spade a spade, and isn't concerned about stepping on toes may be a refreshing change but that's not how you get things done in the world of international politics. Rude remarks and insults that Trump is famous for when direct at foreign heads of state by a president make negotiations difficult if not impossible. An insult directed at a head of state by a president is seen as insult directed at that nation which always requires a response.

If Trump were president when he made his remarks about Mexico sending rapist and murders into the US, the Mexican government would have had to respond creating an international incident. When the president speaks on the International stage, he's speaking for the nation, not himself, something I doubt Trump could do.
 
Economically it COULD be good to have Trump as president. On the other hand his big fucking ego could have disastrous results.

Just my opinion but I'm sure someone will pick it apart
 
You're overthinking it. This isn't about quality or even policy. Its about feeling. He's the emotional choice.

Agreed. Just like Obama was and we've seen the aftermath of that.

O'bama didn't get elected on "emotion". The economy had just collapsed. You could be a doorknob and get elected when the opposition's identified with economic disaster.


Obama was a better candidate than McCain. And yes....the economic meltdown was pinned on the GOP by the media....(that's what they do). But the easy lending policies went back to Clinton. Their are an equal number of fingers in that pie....on both sides of the political spectrum.


Wrong, a head of cabbage would have been a better candidate than obama. if you are saying he was a better campaigner than McCain, I agree. But a better candidate------NO.

So what is your evidence that Obama was either born in Kenya....or lied to his college.

If you can't back that claim, just say so.


His publisher said he was born in Kenya on the jacket to his book. So are you now saying that obama lied when he said he was born in Kenya? WTF ?
 
You are an idiot. In our great nation we became a great nation because of the rule of fairness. The Rich or top 1% controlled 75% of the wealth. Your way they control 90% of the wealth. Unregulated free market capitalism doesn't work you have to have rules and the government needs to be a fair referee.

Again... it should be illegal for you to use percentages.

We do have rules, and life is not fair. It's impossible to make life fair for all.

In YOUR system, the Top 1% control ALL the wealth, ALL the political power and ALL the speech.

The 99% have no hope, no opportunity and no recourse.

If you will go read the speeches of Mao during the "people's revolution" you will see that the exact same 99% vs. 1% argument was made... that's where it comes from! Mao's 'solution' was to kill the capitalists and confiscate their wealth. 70 million people died under his insane plan and it plunged China into economic obscurity for 40 years.
The rich changed the rules on us. The climbed the ladder and then pulled it up on the rest of us.

If you want to keep losing the class war we are in vote GOP.


Aw, did the mean ole rich guys hurt your widdle feeeeeeeeeeeelings? Wah, wah, wah. you fricken pussey.
 
The far left is doing it's best to make sure that we have a 1%er vs a 1%er for the choices of president.

If anyone that is for the DNC votes for Hilary they show that they are the biggest hypocrites in the world. They see a letter of the alphabet as being more important than what the person truly is..
 
You are an idiot. In our great nation we became a great nation because of the rule of fairness. The Rich or top 1% controlled 75% of the wealth. Your way they control 90% of the wealth. Unregulated free market capitalism doesn't work you have to have rules and the government needs to be a fair referee.

Again... it should be illegal for you to use percentages.

We do have rules, and life is not fair. It's impossible to make life fair for all.

In YOUR system, the Top 1% control ALL the wealth, ALL the political power and ALL the speech.

The 99% have no hope, no opportunity and no recourse.

If you will go read the speeches of Mao during the "people's revolution" you will see that the exact same 99% vs. 1% argument was made... that's where it comes from! Mao's 'solution' was to kill the capitalists and confiscate their wealth. 70 million people died under his insane plan and it plunged China into economic obscurity for 40 years.
Dude, where do you get your propaganda and rhetoric from, ancient history?

A Seattle entrepreneur on Monday delivered a startling message to his employees — he is raising the minimum pay for all of his employees to $70,000, while reducing his own pay to the same amount from about $1 million. Source: Seattle Business Owner Raises His Workers Minimum Pay to 70 000 - NBC News

I don't post propaganda and Chairman Mao is hardly ancient history.

You know the greatest part of the story of the guy in Seattle? His business is in America, where he has the freedom to do what he did. He made a choice because we have FREE ENTERPRISE here. That means he is free to run his business how he pleases. He is also free to have a business, and that's called the FREE MARKET.
 
You are an idiot. In our great nation we became a great nation because of the rule of fairness. The Rich or top 1% controlled 75% of the wealth. Your way they control 90% of the wealth. Unregulated free market capitalism doesn't work you have to have rules and the government needs to be a fair referee.

Again... it should be illegal for you to use percentages.

We do have rules, and life is not fair. It's impossible to make life fair for all.

In YOUR system, the Top 1% control ALL the wealth, ALL the political power and ALL the speech.

The 99% have no hope, no opportunity and no recourse.

If you will go read the speeches of Mao during the "people's revolution" you will see that the exact same 99% vs. 1% argument was made... that's where it comes from! Mao's 'solution' was to kill the capitalists and confiscate their wealth. 70 million people died under his insane plan and it plunged China into economic obscurity for 40 years.
Dude, where do you get your propaganda and rhetoric from, ancient history?

A Seattle entrepreneur on Monday delivered a startling message to his employees — he is raising the minimum pay for all of his employees to $70,000, while reducing his own pay to the same amount from about $1 million. Source: Seattle Business Owner Raises His Workers Minimum Pay to 70 000 - NBC News

I don't post propaganda and Chairman Mao is hardly ancient history.

You know the greatest part of the story of the guy in Seattle? His business is in America, where he has the freedom to do what he did. He made a choice because we have FREE ENTERPRISE here. That means he is free to run his business how he pleases. He is also free to have a business, and that's called the FREE MARKET.
did you miss the point about that form of equality?
 
Economically it COULD be good to have Trump as president. On the other hand his big fucking ego could have disastrous results.

Just my opinion but I'm sure someone will pick it apart
Temperament is a big part of the job, and an ego like that ain't a fit.

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same question for you. which of the current list of candidates does not have a huge ego? Hillary? certainly not. so which one, or ones do not have huge egos?

denigrating Trump for ego is like denigrating Tom Brady for ego. Success breeds ego.
 
Economically it COULD be good to have Trump as president. On the other hand his big fucking ego could have disastrous results.

Just my opinion but I'm sure someone will pick it apart
Temperament is a big part of the job, and an ego like that ain't a fit.

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same question for you. which of the current list of candidates does not have a huge ego? Hillary? certainly not. so which one, or ones do not have huge egos?

denigrating Trump for ego is like denigrating Tom Brady for ego. Success breeds ego.
The ego of any professional politician almost certainly borders on narcissism.

The question is how that ego is controlled around others and how it is mitigated for proper judgement.

That might be a good definition of temperament.

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Does anyone actually think that Donald Trump would make a good President?

Does anyone who voted for Obama a second time think period?

Trump is to Obama what Plato is to Snooki on Jersey Shore.

Trump is unafraid to speak boldly, unlike the vast majority of congress and the lying administration. Trump will call out China, Russia, Mexico, et al. and make public proposals to congress to act. If they do not, the public will know. Trump can do more for creating jobs than any president in memory. The public is lulled into ambivalence because no one of any fortitude and courage is willing to run for office. Congress just pats each other on the back and will not rock the boat. At least not in introducing meaningful legislation. Nor will they seriously and forcefully pursue the criminals in all these scandals.

What has Trump got to lose? He has no friends in Washington, but he will have the public listening and caring.
 

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