does the gop want to lose power?

[mdk]

If there was ever a time in recent history for a 3rd party to make it, it was 2016.

The 2 least popular candidates in history, it should have been easy to get a 3rd party installed

It should have been; however, the system in places makes that terribly hard. The only thing the two parties seem to agree on is that they don't want some third party to ruin their nest feathering.

 

[Eaglewings]

The GOP bit off much more than they can chew with this Obamacare law...No matter how they vote it will down the GOP ... Suckers..

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

You disappoint me..

What did I say that isn't true? The reasons Ryan and McConnell stepped back is because it is a dangerous and political suicide

 

[Mr.Blonde]

The GOP should just use Rand Paul's bill which is everything the people voted for. The GOP should have also been working on a bill since November 9th so it could be ready to sign in the first week at least.

If the GOP doesn't get premiums down by next year or at least have people start signing up for cheaper plans for 2019 then the GOP will at the very least will loose ground in the Congress, but if they can have something to show the people they represent they could get a super majority

 

[Eaglewings]

The GOP bit off much more than they can chew with this Obamacare law...No matter how they vote it will down the GOP ... Suckers..

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

The democrats only like Obamacare because they know it's failure is ingrained in its very being. They see it as a path to single payer, nothing more or less.

It was a start to stop the corruption in our healthcare system...Fix the problems...

Do you know the KOCH brothers are the loudest voice to stop Obamacare? That alone should tell you the truth behind it all.

 

[TNHarley]

The GOP bit off much more than they can chew with this Obamacare law...No matter how they vote it will down the GOP ... Suckers..

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

You disappoint me..

What did I say that isn't true? The reasons Ryan and McConnell stepped back is because it is a dangerous and political suicide

ACA was a failure.

 

[Avatar4321]

The GOP bit off much more than they can chew with this Obamacare law...No matter how they vote it will down the GOP ... Suckers..

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

The democrats only like Obamacare because they know it's failure is ingrained in its very being. They see it as a path to single payer, nothing more or less.

It was a start to stop the corruption in our healthcare system...Fix the problems...

Do you know the KOCH brothers are the loudest voice to stop Obamacare? That alone should tell you the truth behind it all.

As long as government is involved, it will be corrupt

 

[Eaglewings]

The GOP bit off much more than they can chew with this Obamacare law...No matter how they vote it will down the GOP ... Suckers..

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

You disappoint me..

What did I say that isn't true? The reasons Ryan and McConnell stepped back is because it is a dangerous and political suicide

ACA was a failure.

No it wasn't Harley...This biggest problem were the penalties and those are gone now...You don't have to buy it anymore..So what the hell is the problem?

 

[martybegan]

The GOP bit off much more than they can chew with this Obamacare law...No matter how they vote it will down the GOP ... Suckers..

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

The democrats only like Obamacare because they know it's failure is ingrained in its very being. They see it as a path to single payer, nothing more or less.

It was a start to stop the corruption in our healthcare system...Fix the problems...

Do you know the KOCH brothers are the loudest voice to stop Obamacare? That alone should tell you the truth behind it all.

by creating more problems?

 

[TNHarley]

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

You disappoint me..

What did I say that isn't true? The reasons Ryan and McConnell stepped back is because it is a dangerous and political suicide

ACA was a failure.

No it wasn't Harley...This biggest problem were the penalties and those are gone now...You don't have to buy it anymore..So what the hell is the problem?

It was causing monopolies in states, rising rates, roughly 8M people lost their healthcare because of it. I could go on. They had to deem it a tax for it to even be LEGAL.
COME ON!

 

[Eaglewings]

The GOP bit off much more than they can chew with this Obamacare law...No matter how they vote it will down the GOP ... Suckers..

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

The democrats only like Obamacare because they know it's failure is ingrained in its very being. They see it as a path to single payer, nothing more or less.

It was a start to stop the corruption in our healthcare system...Fix the problems...

Do you know the KOCH brothers are the loudest voice to stop Obamacare? That alone should tell you the truth behind it all.

As long as government is involved, it will be corrupt

Why is this government helping the rich then Avatar? Obama tried to stop the corruption going on with our health care system.
If it wasn't for Obama's healthcare pre-excisting law..I would have lost my home and savings by now..

So many do not understand it, unless if you were sick and saw what these corrupt people do...From the Big Pharma down to the FDA.. Corrupt..

Did you know that getting cancer will cost you $500.000 after they kick you off insurance and then when everything runs out , they kick you off any care and you die..

 

[TNHarley]

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

The democrats only like Obamacare because they know it's failure is ingrained in its very being. They see it as a path to single payer, nothing more or less.

It was a start to stop the corruption in our healthcare system...Fix the problems...

Do you know the KOCH brothers are the loudest voice to stop Obamacare? That alone should tell you the truth behind it all.

As long as government is involved, it will be corrupt

Why is this government helping the rich then Avatar? Obama tried to stop the corruption going on with our health care system.
If it wasn't for Obama's healthcare pre-excisting law..I would have lost my home and savings by now..

So many do not understand it, unless if you were sick and saw what these corrupt people do...From the Big Pharma down to the FDA.. Corrupt..

Did you know that getting cancer will cost you $500.000 after they kick you off insurance and then when everything runs out , they kick you off any care and you die..

How many insurance lobbyists had their hand in its creation?
Lol, its like you are reading strait from the DNC website.

 

[Eaglewings]

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

You disappoint me..

What did I say that isn't true? The reasons Ryan and McConnell stepped back is because it is a dangerous and political suicide

ACA was a failure.

No it wasn't Harley...This biggest problem were the penalties and those are gone now...You don't have to buy it anymore..So what the hell is the problem?

It was causing monopolies in states, rising rates, roughly 8M people lost their healthcare because of it. I could go on. They had to deem it a tax for it to even be LEGAL.
COME ON!

I saw it help thousands Harley during my 2x's fighting cancer... Who are these 8M people who lost their healthcare?

 

[TNHarley]

You disappoint me..

What did I say that isn't true? The reasons Ryan and McConnell stepped back is because it is a dangerous and political suicide

ACA was a failure.

No it wasn't Harley...This biggest problem were the penalties and those are gone now...You don't have to buy it anymore..So what the hell is the problem?

It was causing monopolies in states, rising rates, roughly 8M people lost their healthcare because of it. I could go on. They had to deem it a tax for it to even be LEGAL.
COME ON!

I saw it help thousands Harley during my 2x's fighting cancer... Who are these 8M people who lost their healthcare?

Thousands are not the country. And go ahead ignore the rest.
Some peoples insurance got cancelled because it didn't mean the bureaucrats standards. Do you know anything about the ACA?

 

[Eaglewings]

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

The democrats only like Obamacare because they know it's failure is ingrained in its very being. They see it as a path to single payer, nothing more or less.

It was a start to stop the corruption in our healthcare system...Fix the problems...

Do you know the KOCH brothers are the loudest voice to stop Obamacare? That alone should tell you the truth behind it all.

As long as government is involved, it will be corrupt

Why is this government helping the rich then Avatar? Obama tried to stop the corruption going on with our health care system.
If it wasn't for Obama's healthcare pre-excisting law..I would have lost my home and savings by now..

So many do not understand it, unless if you were sick and saw what these corrupt people do...From the Big Pharma down to the FDA.. Corrupt..

Did you know that getting cancer will cost you $500.000 after they kick you off insurance and then when everything runs out , they kick you off any care and you die..

How many insurance lobbyists had their hand in its creation?
Lol, its like you are reading strait from the DNC website.

Harley I lived it.... My husband is an attorney , we have our own small business. When I got sick 5 years ago , we were just about kicked off insurance because we renew every year. They found any which way to now enroll you.

I am too young for Medicare, but I am able to get on it for disabilities so I will be ok..But...Millions will not be ok..

 

[Avatar4321]

In that case, the Dems failed too. Maybe that's a sign our government just sucks and we should quit letting them abuse their powers?

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

The democrats only like Obamacare because they know it's failure is ingrained in its very being. They see it as a path to single payer, nothing more or less.

It was a start to stop the corruption in our healthcare system...Fix the problems...

Do you know the KOCH brothers are the loudest voice to stop Obamacare? That alone should tell you the truth behind it all.

As long as government is involved, it will be corrupt

Why is this government helping the rich then Avatar? Obama tried to stop the corruption going on with our health care system.
If it wasn't for Obama's healthcare pre-excisting law..I would have lost my home and savings by now..

So many do not understand it, unless if you were sick and saw what these corrupt people do...From the Big Pharma down to the FDA.. Corrupt..

Did you know that getting cancer will cost you $500.000 after they kick you off insurance and then when everything runs out , they kick you off any care and you die..

Obama was one of the most corrupt men to ever lead this nation. Nothing he touched was to eliminate corruption.

 

[Eaglewings]

What did I say that isn't true? The reasons Ryan and McConnell stepped back is because it is a dangerous and political suicide

ACA was a failure.

No it wasn't Harley...This biggest problem were the penalties and those are gone now...You don't have to buy it anymore..So what the hell is the problem?

It was causing monopolies in states, rising rates, roughly 8M people lost their healthcare because of it. I could go on. They had to deem it a tax for it to even be LEGAL.
COME ON!

I saw it help thousands Harley during my 2x's fighting cancer... Who are these 8M people who lost their healthcare?

Thousands are not the country. And go ahead ignore the rest.
Some peoples insurance got cancelled because it didn't mean the bureaucrats standards. Do you know anything about the ACA?

It may not be perfect, fix the problems..

The Koch brothers want it gone faster, if their hands are in it then it is corrupt as hell..

Harley, you seem like a healthy guy that only saw the problems of ACA..

Do you know that 1 bag of chemo is $10,000 to $100,000 x 12 because it came back

Then had to have a $20, 000 shot the next day. x 12

Where is the corruption in that? The FDA has us bound to corruption and the doctor's are legally boung to only go by what the FDA says..

7 surgeries, hospital stays, imaging tests, doctors visits...

Looking back of those things were unnecessary, it is like you are $$$$$ dollar signs once you get sick

Until then you really don't see it.

 

[Lewdog]

Has Trump endorsed this yet?

Yep he did this morning.

 

[Eaglewings]

No, the democrats like Obamacare, it is the GOP who 1/2 want it and 1/2 want it gone...either way someone is going to be angry .

The democrats only like Obamacare because they know it's failure is ingrained in its very being. They see it as a path to single payer, nothing more or less.

It was a start to stop the corruption in our healthcare system...Fix the problems...

Do you know the KOCH brothers are the loudest voice to stop Obamacare? That alone should tell you the truth behind it all.

As long as government is involved, it will be corrupt

Why is this government helping the rich then Avatar? Obama tried to stop the corruption going on with our health care system.
If it wasn't for Obama's healthcare pre-excisting law..I would have lost my home and savings by now..

So many do not understand it, unless if you were sick and saw what these corrupt people do...From the Big Pharma down to the FDA.. Corrupt..

Did you know that getting cancer will cost you $500.000 after they kick you off insurance and then when everything runs out , they kick you off any care and you die..

Obama was one of the most corrupt men to ever lead this nation. Nothing he touched was to eliminate corruption.

Hey Avatar where you on the forum Christian Forums? I think I remember you..

When you only watch Fox forums, the Blaze and all of those other democrats hating sites you will only see corruption..

He did some things that pissed me off..like signing the GMO bill through ( which is a whole different thread)

 

[Lewdog]

Has Trump endorsed this yet?

Yes. And the market is going down in response.

Oh and the radio just said that this is the first phase of health care reform. Buying insurance across state lines is in the next phase.

If we are going to do this in phases, repeal Obamacare first with nothing till a second phase

No. That would be fucking retarded. There HAS to be a replace at the same time as the repeal. If you want the GOP to go down in flames... then repeal the ACA with nothing to replace it and put millions of people off health care... you'd see more seats flipped in 2018 that you'd have a stroke.

 

[martybegan]

ACA was a failure.

No it wasn't Harley...This biggest problem were the penalties and those are gone now...You don't have to buy it anymore..So what the hell is the problem?

It was causing monopolies in states, rising rates, roughly 8M people lost their healthcare because of it. I could go on. They had to deem it a tax for it to even be LEGAL.
COME ON!

I saw it help thousands Harley during my 2x's fighting cancer... Who are these 8M people who lost their healthcare?

Thousands are not the country. And go ahead ignore the rest.
Some peoples insurance got cancelled because it didn't mean the bureaucrats standards. Do you know anything about the ACA?

It may not be perfect, fix the problems..

The Koch brothers want it gone faster, if their hands are in it then it is corrupt as hell..

Harley, you seem like a healthy guy that only saw the problems of ACA..

Do you know that 1 bag of chemo is $10,000 to $100,000 x 12 because it came back

Then had to have a $20, 000 shot the next day. x 12

Where is the corruption in that? The FDA has us bound to corruption and the doctor's are legally boung to only go by what the FDA says..

7 surgeries, hospital stays, imaging tests, doctors visits...

Looking back of those things were unnecessary, it is like you are $$$$$ dollar signs once you get sick

Until then you really don't see it.

What I saw is the premium for my PPO plan with a modest $1000 deductible become so high that I had to take a High deductible plan, with an HSA that made some of the deductible up, but not all of it. I have seen even that plan get less and less flexible, and more of my own $$ coming out of pocket, or potentially out of pocket. All of this because more high risk people are put in the same pool as me, and my premiums have to cover the losses seen by the insurance companies because of this.

The other reason why companies have to push high deductible plans is the low deductible plans will be considered "Cadillac" under Obamacare, and become even more expensive due to taxes.

Meanwhile while my premiums go up and my deductibles go up, other people get help from the government, using my tax dollars, while I get fucking zip.