Does the USA need NATO?

[rupol2000]

after the end of Bush's rule, the world plunged into an era of solid lies and behind-the-scenes games dictated by the European Union. Now the American military is in fact under the rule of European politics and not the people of the United States.

And Trump didn't fucking change the situation, he wasn't really right.

 

[rupol2000]

It is also not beneficial for the European people themselves. They have been silenced, extended retirement periods, stigmatized by same-sex marriages, and replaced by migrants from Africa and Turkey.
The standard of living in Europe has also fallen.

 

[U2Edge]

zaangalewa
In fact, in 1990, the FRG carried out the accession of the GDR unilaterally, without holding referendums in the territories of the FRG and the GDR
Until now, many states do not recognize the annexation of Crimea to Russia, there really are a lot of questions, but there was a fucking referendum.

A referendum that was illegal according to the Ukrainian constitution. Russia seizing Crimea in 2014 was classic Adolf Hitler behavior.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Do not lie. Now Moscow is on the side of Germany. Is it in the USA that Nord Stream 2 is being pulled?

Pulled? How do you pull a pipeline? I'm confused.

 

[Toro]

Russian troll bot says what

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I love this thread! An East German Communist arguing with a Russian communist about NATO. What could be better!

 

[zaangalewa]

Pangermanismus – Wikipedia

de.wikipedia.org

"Pangermanismus" is not a German word.

 

[zaangalewa]

zaangalewa
In fact, in 1990, the FRG carried out the accession of the GDR unilaterally, without holding referendums in the territories of the FRG and the GDR
Until now, many states do not recognize the annexation of Crimea to Russia, there really are a lot of questions, but there was a fucking referendum.

Do you remember the famous speach of the never elected Parteibonzenführer Erich Honecker about the victory of their Soviet system? He said: "Dear female comrades, dear male comrades - the further developement of the Soviet states is not to stop any longer. Our sociaIistic oligarchies cover now 1/5 of the planet. Soon it will cover 1/6, 1/7, 1/8, 1/9, 1/10 and so on! Hurray!"

 

[zaangalewa]

A referendum that was illegal according to the Ukrainian constitution. Russia seizing Crimea in 2014 was classic Adolf Hitler behavior.

No. It was not. Indeed the Soviet Nikita Krushchev never had any right to give this Russian territory as a present to the Ukraine. When the Ukraine had been the owner of the Krim the Krim also always had been the home harbor of the Russian Black Sea fleet and the population in the Krim had been Russian. So the result of the referendum which Russia illegally made there is on the other side also plausible. And the politics of the western world is a little bit hypocritically - specially if we think about that Hawaii for example had not been a part of the USA since their Pacific fleet had used Pearl Harbor.

The question "Krim" is a typical question which needs a working international system of justice between states. It was illegal what Russia had done - but - and this is a damned big fat "but" - what had been Russia able to do to change this situation legally? Now we have the problem of a growing escalation not only in other regions of the Ukraine but also in Belarus or Kazakhstan and perhaps also in other places.

 

[rupol2000]

A referendum that was illegal according to the Ukrainian constitution. Russia seizing Crimea in 2014 was classic Adolf Hitler behavior.

As far as I know, there is a right to self-determination of peoples, and the constitution of an individual state can not restrict international law.

Although I am not an absolute supporter of this accession.

In any case, formally it looks much cleaner than what the German authorities did

 

[rupol2000]

No. It was not. Indeed the Soviet Nikita Krushchev never had any right to give this Russian territory as a present to the Ukraine.

It has never been Russian territory. Russia and the Russian Empire are two different things. There were different subjects in the Russian Empire, including Tajiks and Chukchi living there, is this also "Russia"?


Historically and by origin, Ukraine is Poland.

But formally the accession is legal, there was a referendum.

 

[rightwinger]

Prior to NATO, Europe was constantly at war

In the 75 years since, Europe has been at peace

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It has never been Russian territory. Russia and the Russian Empire are two different things. There were different subjects in the Russian Empire, including Tajiks and Chukchi living there, is this also "Russia"?


Historically and by origin, Ukraine is Poland.

But formally the accession is legal, there was a referendum.

 

[rupol2000]

Black Sea fleet and the population in the Krim had been Russian.

What does "always" mean? Before the collapse of the USSR, it was the fleet of the USSR, that is, including Ukrainians. After the collapse of the USSR, Russia rented this port.

And where did you get that "Russian population" in Crimea?

 

[rupol2000]

In addition, the Ukrainian language is just a dialect of Polish, and outwardly Ukrainians and Poles do not differ

 

[rupol2000]

Ukraine seceded from Poland in the 18th century as a result of the Partitions of Poland.

 

[JWBooth]

Does the USA need NATO?​

All empires have used toadies to maintain their hegemony

 

[rupol2000]

"Pangermanismus" is not a German word.

What "Germanic word" are you talking about? I gave you a link in German.

Are you talking about some ancient German?

Pan-Germanism is a phenomenon of the 19th century; it could not have been in antiquity.

Do you even know how the "Germans" called themselves, their endoethnonym? The Germans are the Latin word Germani - "siblings", Γερμανοί, and all the names that we know, such as the Goths, Litvins, Prussians, Franks, Varags, Deutsches, Brits, Nemettes - all these are names from outside. Are you sure that the Proto-Germans had some kind of language, that were they even talking at all? Is there anything known about it?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But formally the accession is legal, there was a referendum.

That's great!

What were the choices on the referendum?

 

[JWBooth]

In addition, the Ukrainian language is just a dialect of Polish, and outwardly Ukrainians and Poles do not differ

Brain dead nose pickers?