Donald Trump is a fraud and here is the proof.

[Rotagilla]

That is classic, love it.

he said he wants to bring manufacturing back to the u.s. What's the problem with that, again?

 

[NYcarbineer]

He just changed his opinion on illegal immigration. People tend to change their opinion. What's wrong with it? Yesterday he was supporting illegal immigrants and now he doesn't.

So what your little Einstein brain is saying. That even though Donald Trump KNOWS that Republicans can't win without getting a certain amount of the Hispanic vote (around 40%)--that he is somehow going to win this election, and that's exactly what he intends to do.

I really can't believe that some of you are eligible to vote!
2012 FLASHBACK: Donald Trump Said GOP Was Too ‘Mean-Spirited’ Towards Illegal Immigrants

Did you see where "The Donald" is on this chart"? Look HARD--he's way down at the bottom.

Trump keeps saying he's leading every poll. Does mean he's leading the unfavorable rating with Hispanics?

 

[NYcarbineer]

That is classic, love it.

he said he wants to bring manufacturing back to the u.s. What's the problem with that, again?

He says lots of things that are either meaningless or simply lies.

 

[Claudette]

No one is going to convince me that Donald Trump is in this race to win it. He's in it to chase millions of Hispanic voters into Hillary's column--and HERE'S THE PROOF:

The Daily/Caller--2012 Donald Trump's reflection on why Mitt Romney lost the election.

While Donald Trump has taken an aggressive anti-illegal immigration stance since announcing his presidential candidacy, in 2012, after Mitt Romney lost to President Obama, the real estate billionaire criticized the GOP for being too harsh towards illegal immigrants.

“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.” Trump’s call for a more delicate approach then on the issue of illegal immigration is in stark contrast to his recent comments.

During his campaign kickoff speech last month, the billionaire mogul decried U.S. immigration policy, saying that Mexican immigrants are “bringing drugs” and “bringing crime.” “They’re rapists,” he continued, adding that “some, I assume, are good people.” Trump added another complaint to the list, saying this week that Mexican immigrants spread “tremendous infectious disease.”

Those remarks have caused heavy backlash and led some companies doing business with Trump to sever ties. NBC Universal, Univision, Serta, NASCAR, Macy’s and the PGA Tour have all either ended their contracts or announced plans to do so because of his remarks.

During that 2012 post-election interview, Trump also criticized Romney, whom he had endorsed.

“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump said. He was referring to Romney’s answer during a Jan. 2012 primary debate in which he said that instead of rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them, the U.S. should adopt a policy of “self-deportation.” Illegal immigrants without job prospects would eventually return to their home countries, Romney claimed. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump told Kessler. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

Trump did say in the interview that Republicans needed to develop a plan to “take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country.”

The Trump campaign did not immediately return a request for comment
http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/09/2...too-mean-spirited-towards-illegal-immigrants/

Donald Trump is nothing more than Bill Clinton's trojan horse. He has no intention of becoming the next President, he's only here to help out his long time friends, Bill & Hillary Clinton.

Fraud?? WOW for a fraud he's pretty damned successful.

He's leading in all the polls so he's saying something those polled like.

Yep. He's gotta be a fraud. LMAO

 

[peach174]

Oreo is asking a valid question and you are all ignoring it.

If Romney lost Hispanic votes due to saying illegals should self-deport how is Trump winning those Hispanic votes by saying boot all illegals?

I don't trust Trump. He's what, 70? A tiger does not change its stripes. He is not a conservative, period. I do find his non-pc approach refreshing (pc is bullshit and needs to go away), but he comes off as bullyish (ala Christie), non-presidential, and I do not think he'd make for a good president. I still don't believe he actually wants to be president no matter how much he's blathering that he does.

Romney did not lose because of the Hispanic vote.
Too many Repubs stayed home.

I don't think any poster on this board is wrong more often than you are...

...except maybe PoliticalChic...

The GOP Turnout Myth

Not a myth, facts
Bush -62 million
McCain 60 million
Romney 57 million.

Turnout for Democrats was down more in 2012 than it was for Republicans:

"Turnout was down for both Republicans and Democrats, falling 4.2 percentage points for the Democrats from 33.0 percent of eligible citizens in 2008 to 28.8 this year; and 1.2 percentage points for the GOP from 28.4 in 2008 to 27.2 this year."

Now stop.

2012 Election Turnout Dips Below 2008 and 2004 Levels: Number Of Eligible Voters Increases By Eight Million, Five Million Fewer Votes Cast | Bipartisan Policy Center

Barack Obama had nearly 10 million fewer votes than in 2008, it was enough to win.
The people are sick of the parties picks.

 

[peach174]

That is classic, love it.

he said he wants to bring manufacturing back to the u.s. What's the problem with that, again?

He says lots of things that are either meaningless or simply lies.

So does Obama.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Till Trump jumped in the race all we were hearing was the same old same old songs and dances.

Yes, Immigration and the Economy are new ground never covered in politics

 

[sear]

Donald Trump is a fraud and here is the proof.

Which is worse?
That Trump be a fraud?
Or that he not be?

"Can you pick a lane and stay in it. Either Donald Trump is doing this for his next T.V, Reality show, or he's doing it to get Hillary Clinton elected." #20

False.
One motive doesn't preclude the other.
Humans and non-humans do things for more than one reason every day.

 

[Zander]

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump's only motive is self aggrandizement.

 

[Misty]

No one is going to convince me that Donald Trump is in this race to win it. He's in it to chase millions of Hispanic voters into Hillary's column--and HERE'S THE PROOF:

The Daily/Caller--2012 Donald Trump's reflection on why Mitt Romney lost the election.

While Donald Trump has taken an aggressive anti-illegal immigration stance since announcing his presidential candidacy, in 2012, after Mitt Romney lost to President Obama, the real estate billionaire criticized the GOP for being too harsh towards illegal immigrants.

“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.” Trump’s call for a more delicate approach then on the issue of illegal immigration is in stark contrast to his recent comments.

During his campaign kickoff speech last month, the billionaire mogul decried U.S. immigration policy, saying that Mexican immigrants are “bringing drugs” and “bringing crime.” “They’re rapists,” he continued, adding that “some, I assume, are good people.” Trump added another complaint to the list, saying this week that Mexican immigrants spread “tremendous infectious disease.”

Those remarks have caused heavy backlash and led some companies doing business with Trump to sever ties. NBC Universal, Univision, Serta, NASCAR, Macy’s and the PGA Tour have all either ended their contracts or announced plans to do so because of his remarks.

During that 2012 post-election interview, Trump also criticized Romney, whom he had endorsed.

“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump said. He was referring to Romney’s answer during a Jan. 2012 primary debate in which he said that instead of rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them, the U.S. should adopt a policy of “self-deportation.” Illegal immigrants without job prospects would eventually return to their home countries, Romney claimed. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump told Kessler. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

Trump did say in the interview that Republicans needed to develop a plan to “take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country.”

The Trump campaign did not immediately return a request for comment
2012 FLASHBACK: Donald Trump Said GOP Was Too ‘Mean-Spirited’ Towards Illegal Immigrants

Donald Trump is nothing more than Bill Clinton's trojan horse. He has no intention of becoming the next President, he's only here to help out his long time friends, Bill & Hillary Clinton.

Ok. Well does Obama believe in gay marriage?

Obviously he changed his mind.

"6. “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian — for me — for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.” - April 17, 2008, while running for president."

Obama gay marriage quotes

 

[browsing deer]

When it comes to Trump, I wear my tinfoil proudly!! ^_^
Seriously, the man 6 months ago was saying opposite what he is saying now on immigration (Being in favor of granting illegals citizenship) and abortion (going so far as to being in favor of post partum abortion) He gave money to the clintons, but not to republicans. He is a stooge, and a lot of what he is saying today on race hatreds, especially toward orientals closely mirrors Sanders

 

[browsing deer]

No one is going to convince me that Donald Trump is in this race to win it. He's in it to chase millions of Hispanic voters into Hillary's column--and HERE'S THE PROOF:

The Daily/Caller--2012 Donald Trump's reflection on why Mitt Romney lost the election.

While Donald Trump has taken an aggressive anti-illegal immigration stance since announcing his presidential candidacy, in 2012, after Mitt Romney lost to President Obama, the real estate billionaire criticized the GOP for being too harsh towards illegal immigrants.

“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.” Trump’s call for a more delicate approach then on the issue of illegal immigration is in stark contrast to his recent comments.

During his campaign kickoff speech last month, the billionaire mogul decried U.S. immigration policy, saying that Mexican immigrants are “bringing drugs” and “bringing crime.” “They’re rapists,” he continued, adding that “some, I assume, are good people.” Trump added another complaint to the list, saying this week that Mexican immigrants spread “tremendous infectious disease.”

Those remarks have caused heavy backlash and led some companies doing business with Trump to sever ties. NBC Universal, Univision, Serta, NASCAR, Macy’s and the PGA Tour have all either ended their contracts or announced plans to do so because of his remarks.

During that 2012 post-election interview, Trump also criticized Romney, whom he had endorsed.

“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump said. He was referring to Romney’s answer during a Jan. 2012 primary debate in which he said that instead of rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them, the U.S. should adopt a policy of “self-deportation.” Illegal immigrants without job prospects would eventually return to their home countries, Romney claimed. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump told Kessler. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

Trump did say in the interview that Republicans needed to develop a plan to “take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country.”

The Trump campaign did not immediately return a request for comment
2012 FLASHBACK: Donald Trump Said GOP Was Too ‘Mean-Spirited’ Towards Illegal Immigrants

Donald Trump is nothing more than Bill Clinton's trojan horse. He has no intention of becoming the next President, he's only here to help out his long time friends, Bill & Hillary Clinton.

Ok. Well does Obama believe in gay marriage?

Obviously he changed his mind.

"6. “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian — for me — for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.” - April 17, 2008, while running for president."

Obama gay marriage quotes

Obama is for whatever feels would get him elected or destroy america. He has no beliefsother than that

 

[Carla_Danger]

tough shit now. we told you all Obama was a fraud and you all still put the thug in as president. so I'm now almost HOPING Trump gets in just to chap a bunch of asses

Spoken like a true partisan hack.

 

[David_42]

have imposed to restrict real discussion.

I don't think the O. P. understands the nature of the Trump phenomenon.

It is not that he has reliable solutions to the many problems this country faces after 7 years of an complelte fool like Obama.

It is that he is willing to address the real Issues...and to talk about them in a way that violates the political correctness language that the Left-Wing loons on

Are you this vacant of any common sense? In 2012 Donald Trump was SCOLDING the Republican party for chasing away millions of Hispanics with hateful rhetoric. Today he is campaigning on Hateful rhetoric against Hispanics. Does this in any WAY suggest to you that he is trying to win an election?

We don't care.

We have been riding along with Obama and Clinton and Kerry, and Susan Rice & Valerie Jarrett and the road has been steadily downhill....and we bring in Beohner & McConnell and they get in and ride along, and they and the rest of the Republicans turn out to be Pussys.

We are beset. We know we face the Socialist at our front, but we don't realize the Pussys are undermining us from inside.

Or, at least we didn't realize all that. We do now, but is it too late?

We are desperate for someone who is not a Socialist or a Pussy...as it appears that every politician in Washington is either one or the other...or both.

Along comes Trump who is half-crazy, but he has stones and a sack.

(And, we remember that also describes Theodore Roosevelt and Winston Churchill...who came fortuitously...just when stones and a sack were desperately needed.)

We see we are riding along with Socialists and Pussys and we see we are headed into oblivion.

Trump comes along and offers us a ride. We know he is headed for a NASCAR Race, that he intends to drive in it...and that he is drunk.

But, we get in the car with him anyway...because we are desperate.

Big amen from this sister! Whooo hoo. Great post.

Till Trump jumped in the race all we were hearing was the same old same old songs and dances.

Hillary....."Republicans are racists and poo poo heads".

Jeb........."Democrats are socialists and poo poo heads".

Trump has shook the political pillars of heaven and hell and its awesome to witness.

Well, at least we can now recognize who supported trump on this forum and laugh at them accordingly.

 

[Claudette]

have imposed to restrict real discussion.

I don't think the O. P. understands the nature of the Trump phenomenon.

It is not that he has reliable solutions to the many problems this country faces after 7 years of an complelte fool like Obama.

It is that he is willing to address the real Issues...and to talk about them in a way that violates the political correctness language that the Left-Wing loons on

Are you this vacant of any common sense? In 2012 Donald Trump was SCOLDING the Republican party for chasing away millions of Hispanics with hateful rhetoric. Today he is campaigning on Hateful rhetoric against Hispanics. Does this in any WAY suggest to you that he is trying to win an election?

We don't care.

We have been riding along with Obama and Clinton and Kerry, and Susan Rice & Valerie Jarrett and the road has been steadily downhill....and we bring in Beohner & McConnell and they get in and ride along, and they and the rest of the Republicans turn out to be Pussys.

We are beset. We know we face the Socialist at our front, but we don't realize the Pussys are undermining us from inside.

Or, at least we didn't realize all that. We do now, but is it too late?

We are desperate for someone who is not a Socialist or a Pussy...as it appears that every politician in Washington is either one or the other...or both.

Along comes Trump who is half-crazy, but he has stones and a sack.

(And, we remember that also describes Theodore Roosevelt and Winston Churchill...who came fortuitously...just when stones and a sack were desperately needed.)

We see we are riding along with Socialists and Pussys and we see we are headed into oblivion.

Trump comes along and offers us a ride. We know he is headed for a NASCAR Race, that he intends to drive in it...and that he is drunk.

But, we get in the car with him anyway...because we are desperate.

Big amen from this sister! Whooo hoo. Great post.

Till Trump jumped in the race all we were hearing was the same old same old songs and dances.

Hillary....."Republicans are racists and poo poo heads".

Jeb........."Democrats are socialists and poo poo heads".

Trump has shook the political pillars of heaven and hell and its awesome to witness.

Well, at least we can now recognize who supported trump on this forum and laugh at them accordingly.

LOL. I'm sure those supporting Hilbat will get laughed at as well.

 

[Rotagilla]

have imposed to restrict real discussion.

I don't think the O. P. understands the nature of the Trump phenomenon.

It is not that he has reliable solutions to the many problems this country faces after 7 years of an complelte fool like Obama.

It is that he is willing to address the real Issues...and to talk about them in a way that violates the political correctness language that the Left-Wing loons on

Are you this vacant of any common sense? In 2012 Donald Trump was SCOLDING the Republican party for chasing away millions of Hispanics with hateful rhetoric. Today he is campaigning on Hateful rhetoric against Hispanics. Does this in any WAY suggest to you that he is trying to win an election?

We don't care.

We have been riding along with Obama and Clinton and Kerry, and Susan Rice & Valerie Jarrett and the road has been steadily downhill....and we bring in Beohner & McConnell and they get in and ride along, and they and the rest of the Republicans turn out to be Pussys.

We are beset. We know we face the Socialist at our front, but we don't realize the Pussys are undermining us from inside.

Or, at least we didn't realize all that. We do now, but is it too late?

We are desperate for someone who is not a Socialist or a Pussy...as it appears that every politician in Washington is either one or the other...or both.

Along comes Trump who is half-crazy, but he has stones and a sack.

(And, we remember that also describes Theodore Roosevelt and Winston Churchill...who came fortuitously...just when stones and a sack were desperately needed.)

We see we are riding along with Socialists and Pussys and we see we are headed into oblivion.

Trump comes along and offers us a ride. We know he is headed for a NASCAR Race, that he intends to drive in it...and that he is drunk.

But, we get in the car with him anyway...because we are desperate.

Big amen from this sister! Whooo hoo. Great post.

Till Trump jumped in the race all we were hearing was the same old same old songs and dances.

Hillary....."Republicans are racists and poo poo heads".

Jeb........."Democrats are socialists and poo poo heads".

Trump has shook the political pillars of heaven and hell and its awesome to witness.

Well, at least we can now recognize who supported trump on this forum and laugh at them accordingly.

 

[MACAULAY]

have imposed to restrict real discussion.

I don't think the O. P. understands the nature of the Trump phenomenon.

It is not that he has reliable solutions to the many problems this country faces after 7 years of an complelte fool like Obama.

It is that he is willing to address the real Issues...and to talk about them in a way that violates the political correctness language that the Left-Wing loons on

Are you this vacant of any common sense? In 2012 Donald Trump was SCOLDING the Republican party for chasing away millions of Hispanics with hateful rhetoric. Today he is campaigning on Hateful rhetoric against Hispanics. Does this in any WAY suggest to you that he is trying to win an election?

We don't care.

We have been riding along with Obama and Clinton and Kerry, and Susan Rice & Valerie Jarrett and the road has been steadily downhill....and we bring in Beohner & McConnell and they get in and ride along, and they and the rest of the Republicans turn out to be Pussys.

We are beset. We know we face the Socialist at our front, but we don't realize the Pussys are undermining us from inside.

Or, at least we didn't realize all that. We do now, but is it too late?

We are desperate for someone who is not a Socialist or a Pussy...as it appears that every politician in Washington is either one or the other...or both.

Along comes Trump who is half-crazy, but he has stones and a sack.

(And, we remember that also describes Theodore Roosevelt and Winston Churchill...who came fortuitously...just when stones and a sack were desperately needed.)

We see we are riding along with Socialists and Pussys and we see we are headed into oblivion.

Trump comes along and offers us a ride. We know he is headed for a NASCAR Race, that he intends to drive in it...and that he is drunk.

But, we get in the car with him anyway...because we are desperate.

Big amen from this sister! Whooo hoo. Great post.

Till Trump jumped in the race all we were hearing was the same old same old songs and dances.

Hillary....."Republicans are racists and poo poo heads".

Jeb........."Democrats are socialists and poo poo heads".

Trump has shook the political pillars of heaven and hell and its awesome to witness.

Well, at least we can now recognize who supported trump on this forum and laugh at them accordingly.

__________________________

At least we can see who has a fucking Socialist featured on his avatar, and laugh at the dumb-ass accordingly.

 

[KissMy]

Republicans are retarded for catering to Hispanics. Hispanics comprise 17.2 percent of the total U.S. population, but only 8.9 percent of actual voters. Republicans need to stop the flow of illegals anchor babies that grow into voters & focus on the White voters they keep alienating & increase their voter participation rates.

That is one of the many things that Republican voters are angry at them for.
They believe the lefts propaganda and cave in to it.

Catering to illegals is not the only place Repub candidates fail. Trump is saying what voters want. Republicans keep screwing over workers for their corporate masters. They have been told for years by voters to get rid of ridiculous "carried interest" & other unproductive corporate tax loopholes, in favor of Work Opportunity Credit to reduce food-stamps & welfare, but they ignore the voters. They jack up SS, pension & payroll taxes so they can steal it to cover those tax loophole shortfalls, causing job loss, massive deficit & price inflation. Trump listens & that's why he is winning.

 

[NYcarbineer]

To win Trump has to start appealing to people who actually care what he says. Right now Trump's support is overloaded with people who don't give a shit what he says...

...there are only so many of those people.