Donald Trump is Going to Get a Journalist Killed

[bripat9643]

Trump and his followers fail to understand that there is a difference between precise criticism of a reporter and saying as a group the press is the enemy of the people. If there is a story that hurts Trump's considerable yet fragile ego, he could do one of two the nags. He could deal with that specific reporter, his/her employer concentrating no on that specific story. Or, alternatively, he could act as an adult would act, respect the dignity of the office of the president of the United States and move on.

But painting journalism with a broad brush and saying journalists start wars and are dangerous begs unwarranted attacks on journalists.

Journalism can be and deserves to be criticized. But criticizing journalism as a group is wholly irresponsible.

Trump says the fake news is the enemy of the people, not all reporters. The fake news deserves everything it gets.

 

[bripat9643]

List of journalists killed in the United States - Wikipedia

To those Hyping this shit up............take a look...............and breath into a bag............LOL

What's your point? We are talking about now and into the future.

Point is..............your projecting that it's gonna happen ALL BECAUSE OF TRUMP............

Right in line with the news outlets playing the victim card..............Political NONSENSE............

No I;m doing so because Trump supporters are being brazen enough to call into a tv show and make open threats to shoot journalist.

Tramp haters have been sending envelopes full of white power to the Trump family since the election. They have received hundreds, if not thousands, of death threats. Where is your concern about that? All Trump is doing is accurately describing the media. If they don't like it, then let them alter their behavior.

 

[Crepitus]

More journalists get killed then kill people. They are getting killed and jailed in record numbers around the world. They hold government and power accountable, often at great personal risk. Dictators and authoritarians HATE independent media. Something to think about. We should be very concerned about these attacks on media.

2018 World Press Freedom Index | Reporters Without Borders

RSF Index 2018: Hatred of journalism threatens democracies

The 2018 World Press Freedom Index, compiled by Reporters Without Borders (RSF), reflects growing animosity towards journalists. Hostility towards the media, openly encouraged by political leaders, and the efforts of authoritarian regimes to export their vision of journalism pose a threat to democracies.

The climate of hatred is steadily more visible in the Index, which evaluates the level of press freedom in 180 countries each year. Hostility towards the media from political leaders is no longer limited to authoritarian countries such as Turkey (down two at 157th) and Egypt (161st), where “media-phobia” is now so pronounced that journalists are routinely accused of terrorism and all those who don’t offer loyalty are arbitrarily imprisoned.


More and more democratically-elected leaders no longer see the media as part of democracy’s essential underpinning, but as an adversary to which they openly display their aversion. The United States, the country of the First Amendment, has fallen again in the Index under Donald Trump, this time two places to 45th. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.


The line separating verbal violence from physical violence is dissolving. In the Philippines (down six at 133rd), President Rodrigo Duterte not only constantly insults reporters but has also warned them that they “are not exempted from assassination.” In India (down two at 138th), hate speech targeting journalists is shared and amplified on social networks, often by troll armies in Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s pay. In each of these countries, at least four journalists were gunned down in cold blood in the space of a year.


Verbal violence from politicians against the media is also on the rise in Europe, although it is the region that respects press freedom most. In the Czech Republic (down 11 at 34th), President Milos Zeman turned up at a press conference with a fake Kalashnikov inscribed with the words “for journalists.” In Slovakia, (down 10 at 27th), then Prime Minister Robert Fico called journalists “filthy anti-Slovak prostitutes” and “idiotic hyenas.” A Slovak reporter, Ján Kuciak, was shot dead in his home in February 2018, just four months after another European journalist, Daphne Caruana Galizia, was killed by a targeted car-bombing in Malta (down 18 at 65th).


“The unleashing of hatred towards journalists is one of the worst threats to democracies,” RSF secretary-general Christophe Deloire said. “Political leaders who fuel loathing for reporters bear heavy responsibility because they undermine the concept of public debate based on facts instead of propaganda. To dispute the legitimacy of journalism today is to play with extremely dangerous political fire.” ​

Journalists are being targeted and killed.

Show us all the American Reporters getting killed by Trump Rhetoric............hmmm.

If the article is true then you should be able to show the dead..........waiting..........

Nice BS piece.........comparing him to Stalin........how typical.

Lol, you didn't even read it.

. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.

And Adolf Hitler.

Just think.

Stalin
Hitler
Trump

All use the same playbook.

the term once used............is what the article stated...............wasn't quoting Trump.............it referenced him..........

Let me repeat...........the term once used............out of context of the article bro to claim Trump said that..........derp

Are you trying to say that trump didn't say the press is the enemy of the poeple? ''Cause he did at his rally last week.

 

[kiwiman127]

With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

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Considering how many people journalists have gotten killed over the decades they certainly shouldn't be whining about their bad behavior. However, unlike the leftist media, and maxine waters and her ilk, I don't see trump calling on his supporters to go murder people. His support for them defending themselves at his rally's was certainly not a call to initiate violence, so this is yet another unhinged (to borrow a favored leftist term now) screed, penned by the very people who are inciting violence.

They are going to reap what they sow. It's sad, but they could have prevented it. They CHOSE not to.

Exactly how many people have died over the decades (?) by an American journalism"s actions. Factual evidence and details, please.
Also, this is the Oath of Office that Trump swore on the Bible, to uphold.
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Trump is having a rough time fulfilling the Oath he took. Instead of protecting and defending the Constitution, he's attacking it.
And goose-steppers like youswlf condom Trump;s anti-American words and actions.

Get theee to a school!

U.S. Diplomacy and Yellow Journalism, 1895–1898
Yellow journalism was a style of newspaper reporting that emphasized sensationalism over facts. During its heyday in the late 19th century it was one of many factors that helped push the United States and Spain into war in Cuba and the Philippines, leading to the acquisition of overseas territory by the United States.

Milestones: 1866–1898 - Office of the Historian

You said,,"Considering how many people journalists have gotten killed over the decades they certainly shouldn't be whining about their bad behavior"
Your reply was seriously lame. 1898? 120 years ago?
Excuse me a second.







You really bombed on that reply!

That was the supreme example of it, moron. They are STILL doing it.

Oh, I'm so sorry that I showed how shallow your reply was.
Secondly, where was your reply regarding Trump/Oath/Constitution? Come on man, that was a major statement within my post.
Geez, first you give me a pathetic answer to my first question. 120 year old answer? I.d bet none of the journalist that you hate or their parents, were alive 120 years ago.
Speaking of time,,,List of journalists killed in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[bripat9643]

Show us all the American Reporters getting killed by Trump Rhetoric............hmmm.

If the article is true then you should be able to show the dead..........waiting..........

Nice BS piece.........comparing him to Stalin........how typical.

Lol, you didn't even read it.

. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.

And Adolf Hitler.

Just think.

Stalin
Hitler
Trump

All use the same playbook.

the term once used............is what the article stated...............wasn't quoting Trump.............it referenced him..........

Let me repeat...........the term once used............out of context of the article bro to claim Trump said that..........derp

Are you trying to say that trump didn't say the press is the enemy of the poeple? ''Cause he did at his rally last week.

He said the fake media is the enemy of the people, and he's right.

Your faux outrage isn't fooling anyone. You don't give a damn about any journalists getting killed. In your view, that would be the best thing that could happen. What really pisses you off is that Trump is making the fake news media irrelevant. No one grants them the slightest shred of credibility any longer. Trump has effectively defanged them.

 

[Crepitus]

Lol, you didn't even read it.

. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.

And Adolf Hitler.

Just think.

Stalin
Hitler
Trump

All use the same playbook.

the term once used............is what the article stated...............wasn't quoting Trump.............it referenced him..........

Let me repeat...........the term once used............out of context of the article bro to claim Trump said that..........derp

Are you trying to say that trump didn't say the press is the enemy of the poeple? ''Cause he did at his rally last week.

He said the fake media is the enemy of the people, and he's right.

Your faux outrage isn't fooling anyone. You don't give a damn about any journalists getting killed. In your view, that would be the best thing that could happen. What really pisses you off is that Trump is making the fake news media irrelevant. No one grants them the slightest shred of credibility any longer. Trump has effectively defanged them.

Lol, he called everything he doesn't like "fake media", whitch is damn near everything but fuax.

 

[impuretrash]

Journalists are the ones hard at work exploiting every possible angle to sow division in this country, set neighbor against neighbor and brother against brother. No doubt, their hands are already stained with blood so if one gets what's coming to him, I won't be too upset about it.

 

[eagle1462010]

Show us all the American Reporters getting killed by Trump Rhetoric............hmmm.

If the article is true then you should be able to show the dead..........waiting..........

Nice BS piece.........comparing him to Stalin........how typical.

Lol, you didn't even read it.

. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.

And Adolf Hitler.

Just think.

Stalin
Hitler
Trump

All use the same playbook.

the term once used............is what the article stated...............wasn't quoting Trump.............it referenced him..........

Let me repeat...........the term once used............out of context of the article bro to claim Trump said that..........derp

Are you trying to say that trump didn't say the press is the enemy of the poeple? ''Cause he did at his rally last week.

Clearing up the Stalin quote.............period.........the term once used by Stalin...........That was the article......

 

[Vel]

Be VERY specific and quote where Trump told people to kill journalists?

He called them an enemy of the people. Read his tweet again:

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 16h16 hours ago
The Fake News hates me saying that they are the Enemy of the People only because they know it’s TRUE. I am providing a great service by explaining this to the American People. They purposely cause great division & distrust. They can also cause War! They are very dangerous & sick!

THEY are the ones that purposefully cause division and distrust? They cause war?

Trump lies constantly. Do you expect the press not to point it out when he does? He just admitted he lied about the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting, but you guys don't care. He wrote the letter saying it was all about adoption, then he says to the world in a tweet:

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago
Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!

You don't care if he lies.

Please check out this article from November of 2017 and perhaps it will give you some insight as to just why people are so fed up with the media and their narcissistic drama. The big news right now is all about Trump and the Trump Tower meeting. The claim is that this is some kind of new story with new information yet when you read this article you see it's the same recycled crap.

skip to paragraph 14
Trump Tower meeting in 2016 draws more scrutiny

Trump lied about it. He wrote the letter saying it was about adoptions, and then admitted in a Tweet this week it was about dirt on his political opponent. It's a pretty big deal when the President gets caught in a lie and only tells the truth when his personal lawyer is threatening to flip on him.

That EXACT information is in this 2017 article. It is not new information. Read the article. I even gave you the paragraph. I can't make it much easier for you. The whole point of this "new" story is just to try to damage Trump. Trying to pump up the negatives.

It's a new story because Trump ADMITTED to it being a lie. The President of the United States openly admitted to the world he wrote a FAKE letter that was a LIE. That's why it is a new story again.

This is just more parsing words trying to make something out of nothing. Yes, Trump had said in one context that the meeting had turned out to be primarily about adoption. That was true. It was also reported at that same time that the woman had said she had information on HIllary in order to get the meeting so that she could advocate for changes to adoption policy. Just another example of people jumping to twist words into nefarious plots. It's ridiculous. Complain that the woman was Russian while at the same time Hilary's camp was hiring a Brit to GO to Russia and try to dig dirt. Hypocrisy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

More journalists get killed then kill people. They are getting killed and jailed in record numbers around the world. They hold government and power accountable, often at great personal risk. Dictators and authoritarians HATE independent media. Something to think about. We should be very concerned about these attacks on media.

2018 World Press Freedom Index | Reporters Without Borders

RSF Index 2018: Hatred of journalism threatens democracies

The 2018 World Press Freedom Index, compiled by Reporters Without Borders (RSF), reflects growing animosity towards journalists. Hostility towards the media, openly encouraged by political leaders, and the efforts of authoritarian regimes to export their vision of journalism pose a threat to democracies.

The climate of hatred is steadily more visible in the Index, which evaluates the level of press freedom in 180 countries each year. Hostility towards the media from political leaders is no longer limited to authoritarian countries such as Turkey (down two at 157th) and Egypt (161st), where “media-phobia” is now so pronounced that journalists are routinely accused of terrorism and all those who don’t offer loyalty are arbitrarily imprisoned.


More and more democratically-elected leaders no longer see the media as part of democracy’s essential underpinning, but as an adversary to which they openly display their aversion. The United States, the country of the First Amendment, has fallen again in the Index under Donald Trump, this time two places to 45th. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.


The line separating verbal violence from physical violence is dissolving. In the Philippines (down six at 133rd), President Rodrigo Duterte not only constantly insults reporters but has also warned them that they “are not exempted from assassination.” In India (down two at 138th), hate speech targeting journalists is shared and amplified on social networks, often by troll armies in Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s pay. In each of these countries, at least four journalists were gunned down in cold blood in the space of a year.


Verbal violence from politicians against the media is also on the rise in Europe, although it is the region that respects press freedom most. In the Czech Republic (down 11 at 34th), President Milos Zeman turned up at a press conference with a fake Kalashnikov inscribed with the words “for journalists.” In Slovakia, (down 10 at 27th), then Prime Minister Robert Fico called journalists “filthy anti-Slovak prostitutes” and “idiotic hyenas.” A Slovak reporter, Ján Kuciak, was shot dead in his home in February 2018, just four months after another European journalist, Daphne Caruana Galizia, was killed by a targeted car-bombing in Malta (down 18 at 65th).


“The unleashing of hatred towards journalists is one of the worst threats to democracies,” RSF secretary-general Christophe Deloire said. “Political leaders who fuel loathing for reporters bear heavy responsibility because they undermine the concept of public debate based on facts instead of propaganda. To dispute the legitimacy of journalism today is to play with extremely dangerous political fire.” ​

Journalists are being targeted and killed.

Show us all the American Reporters getting killed by Trump Rhetoric............hmmm.

If the article is true then you should be able to show the dead..........waiting..........

Nice BS piece.........comparing him to Stalin........how typical.

What are you talking about? Are you denying journalists are being killed? Trump's rhetoric doesn't help.

I didn't compare him to Stalin. TRUMP USED STALIN'S WORDS. Don't you get it?

Did Trump get Micheal Hasting killed from the rolling Stones?


I still say their was something fishy going on a car just doesn't blow up hitting a tree.


Remember he was always critical of Obama and the Democrat party






.

 

[iceberg]

More journalists get killed then kill people. They are getting killed and jailed in record numbers around the world. They hold government and power accountable, often at great personal risk. Dictators and authoritarians HATE independent media. Something to think about. We should be very concerned about these attacks on media.

2018 World Press Freedom Index | Reporters Without Borders

RSF Index 2018: Hatred of journalism threatens democracies

The 2018 World Press Freedom Index, compiled by Reporters Without Borders (RSF), reflects growing animosity towards journalists. Hostility towards the media, openly encouraged by political leaders, and the efforts of authoritarian regimes to export their vision of journalism pose a threat to democracies.

The climate of hatred is steadily more visible in the Index, which evaluates the level of press freedom in 180 countries each year. Hostility towards the media from political leaders is no longer limited to authoritarian countries such as Turkey (down two at 157th) and Egypt (161st), where “media-phobia” is now so pronounced that journalists are routinely accused of terrorism and all those who don’t offer loyalty are arbitrarily imprisoned.


More and more democratically-elected leaders no longer see the media as part of democracy’s essential underpinning, but as an adversary to which they openly display their aversion. The United States, the country of the First Amendment, has fallen again in the Index under Donald Trump, this time two places to 45th. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.


The line separating verbal violence from physical violence is dissolving. In the Philippines (down six at 133rd), President Rodrigo Duterte not only constantly insults reporters but has also warned them that they “are not exempted from assassination.” In India (down two at 138th), hate speech targeting journalists is shared and amplified on social networks, often by troll armies in Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s pay. In each of these countries, at least four journalists were gunned down in cold blood in the space of a year.


Verbal violence from politicians against the media is also on the rise in Europe, although it is the region that respects press freedom most. In the Czech Republic (down 11 at 34th), President Milos Zeman turned up at a press conference with a fake Kalashnikov inscribed with the words “for journalists.” In Slovakia, (down 10 at 27th), then Prime Minister Robert Fico called journalists “filthy anti-Slovak prostitutes” and “idiotic hyenas.” A Slovak reporter, Ján Kuciak, was shot dead in his home in February 2018, just four months after another European journalist, Daphne Caruana Galizia, was killed by a targeted car-bombing in Malta (down 18 at 65th).


“The unleashing of hatred towards journalists is one of the worst threats to democracies,” RSF secretary-general Christophe Deloire said. “Political leaders who fuel loathing for reporters bear heavy responsibility because they undermine the concept of public debate based on facts instead of propaganda. To dispute the legitimacy of journalism today is to play with extremely dangerous political fire.” ​

Journalists are being targeted and killed.

Show us all the American Reporters getting killed by Trump Rhetoric............hmmm.

If the article is true then you should be able to show the dead..........waiting..........

Nice BS piece.........comparing him to Stalin........how typical.

What are you talking about? Are you denying journalists are being killed? Trump's rhetoric doesn't help.

I didn't compare him to Stalin. TRUMP USED STALIN'S WORDS. Don't you get it?

the underlying question is - does trump have a valid complaint against the media? i certainly think so. hillary can come out in a moomoo to hide medical issues, fall onto her face looking drunk, and obama can declare war on FOX news and conservative journalists and the left didn't care.

trump eats 2 scoops of icecream or has fried chicken, CNN is demonizing him.

trump is far from perfect and rambles like grandpa simpson at times. he certainly does however poke the media and they poke back. we're long past chicken/egg on which came first and who started it - both sides need to grow up. what has made this escalate is google and supporters of hillary in 2016 went into overdrive on fake news. sharyl attkisson did a huge piece on it to find out where todays version of it came from - there we go. alphabet co (owns google) and a hillary doner started spreading fake news.

the left has a MUCH better relationship with the media to be sure but the media is very left focused anyway. they seem to work to find bad things to say about trump. if trump were as bad as the media makes him out to be, why do you have to work at it and lie about him?

when sanders was confronting acosta and told him about the attacks on her - what did the media do? the wapo came out and called her a liar with some "Fact Checks" saying she was never threatened to be choked. the actual verbiage was "wring her neck".

you tell me if we're splitting hairs here so we can call HER the liar. they did that to her on every statement - found a little niche to hide behind and dove in head first to call sanders a liar.

FAKE NEWS - she didn't lie at any point in what she said but she was made out to be a liar anyway.

is that fair? is that honest? is that what we want out of our media?

i agree this has gotten way out of hand but we have to look back at obama starting the war on fox news and then privately going after conservative journalists while saying NO I AM NOT to a far too willing to believe crowd. at least trump owns his actions, good or bad.

i wish both sides would stop the extreme bullshit and concentrate on supporting each other. but right now not enough people want that. they want to be RIGHT at any and all costs regardless of whether or not they really are. so - use fake news to make you feel better about your own hate and call out fake news to anything that counters how you wish things to be.

fake news is getting to be the new race card.

 

[miketx]

What this thread has proven, like so many others do, is that no debate is allowed. Agree or you are wrong. More and more I see this happening and don't even try to discuss anything rationally with the media fed haters.

 

[martybegan]

Trump and his followers fail to understand that there is a difference between precise criticism of a reporter and saying as a group the press is the enemy of the people. If there is a story that hurts Trump's considerable yet fragile ego, he could do one of two the nags. He could deal with that specific reporter, his/her employer concentrating no on that specific story. Or, alternatively, he could act as an adult would act, respect the dignity of the office of the president of the United States and move on.

But painting journalism with a broad brush and saying journalists start wars and are dangerous begs unwarranted attacks on journalists.

Journalism can be and deserves to be criticized. But criticizing journalism as a group is wholly irresponsible.

When your side stops lumping everyone who is to the Right of Mitt Romney with Nazis maybe you can have a point on this.

Until then go pound sand.

 

[martybegan]

Trump and his followers fail to understand that there is a difference between precise criticism of a reporter and saying as a group the press is the enemy of the people. If there is a story that hurts Trump's considerable yet fragile ego, he could do one of two the nags. He could deal with that specific reporter, his/her employer concentrating no on that specific story. Or, alternatively, he could act as an adult would act, respect the dignity of the office of the president of the United States and move on.

But painting journalism with a broad brush and saying journalists start wars and are dangerous begs unwarranted attacks on journalists.

Journalism can be and deserves to be criticized. But criticizing journalism as a group is wholly irresponsible.

When 90% of the media is against you the media DESERVES a broad brush dude. You can count on the fingers of both hands the number of journalists who are still acting like journalists. All of the rest are deeply mired in their political goals. They are thus incredibly biased, which makes them no longer reporters, but propagandists.

If, as you contend 90% of media coverage is negative, you might have a problem President. 10% support him? Perhaps they are enablers.

When everyone tells you you are too drunk and should lay down a while, maybe you should listen.

Or maybe the press if full of lefty twats that have abandoned objectivity while at the same time claiming to be neutral arbiters of public opinion.

 

[irosie91]

the claim that Trump is advocating VIOLENCE against journalists
is a DESPERATE GROPE INTO MURKY WATERS by the
scum that lives in the brackish sewer water sludge pond

 

[Nosmo King]

Trump and his followers fail to understand that there is a difference between precise criticism of a reporter and saying as a group the press is the enemy of the people. If there is a story that hurts Trump's considerable yet fragile ego, he could do one of two the nags. He could deal with that specific reporter, his/her employer concentrating no on that specific story. Or, alternatively, he could act as an adult would act, respect the dignity of the office of the president of the United States and move on.

But painting journalism with a broad brush and saying journalists start wars and are dangerous begs unwarranted attacks on journalists.

Journalism can be and deserves to be criticized. But criticizing journalism as a group is wholly irresponsible.

When your side stops lumping everyone who is to the Right of Mitt Romney with Nazis maybe you can have a point on this.

Until then go pound sand.

When those to the left of Mitt Romney stop xcusing Nazis as "good people", that 'lumping' will stop.

 

[martybegan]

Trump and his followers fail to understand that there is a difference between precise criticism of a reporter and saying as a group the press is the enemy of the people. If there is a story that hurts Trump's considerable yet fragile ego, he could do one of two the nags. He could deal with that specific reporter, his/her employer concentrating no on that specific story. Or, alternatively, he could act as an adult would act, respect the dignity of the office of the president of the United States and move on.

But painting journalism with a broad brush and saying journalists start wars and are dangerous begs unwarranted attacks on journalists.

Journalism can be and deserves to be criticized. But criticizing journalism as a group is wholly irresponsible.

When your side stops lumping everyone who is to the Right of Mitt Romney with Nazis maybe you can have a point on this.

Until then go pound sand.

When those to the left of Mitt Romney stop xcusing Nazis as "good people", that 'lumping' will stop.

You probably mean "to the right"

And once again you use one statement as excuse to get your panties in a bunch over and over again, meanwhile ignoring the obvious truth of the matter.

Your side is getting butthurt when the exact same tactics you use are used against you.

Wankers.

 

[iceberg]

Trump and his followers fail to understand that there is a difference between precise criticism of a reporter and saying as a group the press is the enemy of the people. If there is a story that hurts Trump's considerable yet fragile ego, he could do one of two the nags. He could deal with that specific reporter, his/her employer concentrating no on that specific story. Or, alternatively, he could act as an adult would act, respect the dignity of the office of the president of the United States and move on.

But painting journalism with a broad brush and saying journalists start wars and are dangerous begs unwarranted attacks on journalists.

Journalism can be and deserves to be criticized. But criticizing journalism as a group is wholly irresponsible.

When your side stops lumping everyone who is to the Right of Mitt Romney with Nazis maybe you can have a point on this.

Until then go pound sand.

When those to the left of Mitt Romney stop xcusing Nazis as "good people", that 'lumping' will stop.

no it won't. you/the left think(s) in a "lump" stereotype mentality because it's convenient to support of your strawman points you like to make. you want to get mad and build a case against stereotypes and then put people into your stereotypes and never have to listen to what they say.

annoying as all fuck.

 

[Nosmo King]

Trump and his followers fail to understand that there is a difference between precise criticism of a reporter and saying as a group the press is the enemy of the people. If there is a story that hurts Trump's considerable yet fragile ego, he could do one of two the nags. He could deal with that specific reporter, his/her employer concentrating no on that specific story. Or, alternatively, he could act as an adult would act, respect the dignity of the office of the president of the United States and move on.

But painting journalism with a broad brush and saying journalists start wars and are dangerous begs unwarranted attacks on journalists.

Journalism can be and deserves to be criticized. But criticizing journalism as a group is wholly irresponsible.

When your side stops lumping everyone who is to the Right of Mitt Romney with Nazis maybe you can have a point on this.

Until then go pound sand.

When those to the left of Mitt Romney stop xcusing Nazis as "good people", that 'lumping' will stop.

no it won't. you/the left think(s) in a "lump" stereotype mentality because it's convenient to support of your strawman points you like to make. you want to get mad and build a case against stereotypes and then put people into your stereotypes and never have to listen to what they say.

annoying as all fuck.

Project much?

 

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With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

This reminds me of when Obama was in office as white police officers were getting assassinated all over the country because blacks felt that law enforcement was all racist, including the justice system.

At the time, Obama would not so much as say the words "Islamic terrorism" so that people would not lash out at innocent Muslims, yet he continually fed into the notion that law enforcement was racist to get votes as innocent white police officers were murdered all across the country.

Yep, politics is a dirty business. Your innocent blood for votes for me as you race bait to try and get all blacks to vote "D" to help fight the white devils.

Then you have Bernie supporters acting on his calls for revolution as one of them tried to assassinate the entire GOP at a baseball game

Luckily, those on the right seem to have a little better moral compass along with some intelligence to not act the same.