Donald Trump says “fifty percent” of Americans are lazy freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything”

[TooTall]

I've got an idea. Why don't you and Hillary get that 50% to pay federal taxes so they will have some money for infrastructure. After all, they are using the infrastructure for free and the rest of us are paying for them.

Except they ARE paying federal taxes! All but the top-earning 20% of American families pay more in payroll taxes than in federal income taxes, according to a Treasury Department analysis.

I was being sarcastic. Matthew wants federal spending for infrastructure in almost every post. Payroll taxes don't pay for one cent worth of federal infrastructure that everyone uses.

Payroll taxes go into the general fund and pay for everything the government pays for.

Has that changed in the last 5 years

"Various payroll taxes are withheld from an employee’s wages. The rates for Social Security taxes and Medicare taxes in 2011 are 4.2 percent and 1.45 percent, respectively. These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs: They are credited to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, and the employee is credited with having paid into both.

Next is federal income tax, which is deposited into the U.S. Treasury general fund when the employer pays the withholding to the IRS. Employees are credited with the amount withheld against their federal income-tax liability when they file Form 1040."

Oopsy!
And there is no SS lock box because Gore never became president.

I like that. "These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs." AND the federal programs that they are used to pay for are SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

 

[edthecynic]

Why is it every time one of you Clinton supporters reports on what Donald Trump supposedly "said"...it's never what he REALLY said?

“The problem we have right now—we have a society that sits back and says we don’t have to do anything. Eventually, the 50 percent cannot carry — and it’s unfair to them — but cannot carry the other 50 percent.”

That's what Trump said. He didn't call anyone "lazy freeloaders". That was your interpretation of what he said. He's simply pointing out that we're reaching a tipping point where more people are taking out of the system then are putting in. That's not sustainable.

Seems like a very accurate paraphrase of what Trump said. Certainly more accurate than any time the Right paraphrases Clinton!!!

No, it's a paraphrase designed to make Trump appear to call people "lazy free loaders" when what he's correctly pointing out is that our society rewards ambition less and less with each passing year and it's not sustainable.

Sorry, but lazy freeloaders was NOT in quotes!!!!!

That means it was just taken out of his ass.

No that means it is not attributed to Trump as a quote!!!

 

[edthecynic]

Except they ARE paying federal taxes! All but the top-earning 20% of American families pay more in payroll taxes than in federal income taxes, according to a Treasury Department analysis.

I was being sarcastic. Matthew wants federal spending for infrastructure in almost every post. Payroll taxes don't pay for one cent worth of federal infrastructure that everyone uses.

Payroll taxes go into the general fund and pay for everything the government pays for.

Has that changed in the last 5 years

"Various payroll taxes are withheld from an employee’s wages. The rates for Social Security taxes and Medicare taxes in 2011 are 4.2 percent and 1.45 percent, respectively. These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs: They are credited to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, and the employee is credited with having paid into both.

Next is federal income tax, which is deposited into the U.S. Treasury general fund when the employer pays the withholding to the IRS. Employees are credited with the amount withheld against their federal income-tax liability when they file Form 1040."

Oopsy!
And there is no SS lock box because Gore never became president.

I like that. "These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs." AND the federal programs that they are used to pay for are SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

And any surplus is used to cover any deficit in the budget not covered by income taxes, corporate taxes and excise taxes. Stop playing dumb.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Donald Trump says “fifty percent” of Americans are lazy freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything”
By Daily News Bin | September 13, 2016 | 8
Donald Trump says “fifty percent” of Americans are lazy freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything”

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So much for Donald Trump’s attempt to paint Hillary Clinton as being divisive because she referred to half of his supporters (roughly twenty percent of voters, and a far lower percentage of the overall population) as being in a “basket of deplorables.” It turns out Trump himself has thrown half the country under the bus with his own words, writing them off as being freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything” because the other half of the country is carrying them.


Whereas Mitt Romney was famously caught writing off “47%” of Americans as being lazy bums during a speech at a private event which was subsequently leaked on video, Donald Trump bizarrely made his remark on television. He told Fox News host Sean Hannity back in June of last year that “The problem we have right now—we have a society that sits back and says we don’t have to do anything. Eventually, the 50 percent cannot carry — and it’s unfair to them — but cannot carry the other 50 percent.”

What a nasty piece of shit this man is. I guardanfuckingtee that a lot of the lower 50% pay state taxes, sales tax and property taxes and most of them work for a goddamn living. What a scum bag! What's even nastier is the reality that parasites like Trump take most of the goddamn wealth that many of the workers in that lower 50% should be getting and fucks them over.

Please god don't do this to America! I beg of you.

The country is divided. It's the Deplorables against the Freeloaders.

Who will win?

The deplorables. They have more back bone, more moxie, and are done with the freeloaders freeloading.

 

[TooTall]

I was being sarcastic. Matthew wants federal spending for infrastructure in almost every post. Payroll taxes don't pay for one cent worth of federal infrastructure that everyone uses.

Payroll taxes go into the general fund and pay for everything the government pays for.

Has that changed in the last 5 years

"Various payroll taxes are withheld from an employee’s wages. The rates for Social Security taxes and Medicare taxes in 2011 are 4.2 percent and 1.45 percent, respectively. These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs: They are credited to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, and the employee is credited with having paid into both.

Next is federal income tax, which is deposited into the U.S. Treasury general fund when the employer pays the withholding to the IRS. Employees are credited with the amount withheld against their federal income-tax liability when they file Form 1040."

Oopsy!
And there is no SS lock box because Gore never became president.

I like that. "These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs." AND the federal programs that they are used to pay for are SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

And any surplus is used to cover any deficit in the budget not covered by income taxes, corporate taxes and excise taxes. Stop playing dumb.

The surplus may be borrowed but must be paid back with interest.

 

[edthecynic]

Payroll taxes go into the general fund and pay for everything the government pays for.

Has that changed in the last 5 years

"Various payroll taxes are withheld from an employee’s wages. The rates for Social Security taxes and Medicare taxes in 2011 are 4.2 percent and 1.45 percent, respectively. These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs: They are credited to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, and the employee is credited with having paid into both.

Next is federal income tax, which is deposited into the U.S. Treasury general fund when the employer pays the withholding to the IRS. Employees are credited with the amount withheld against their federal income-tax liability when they file Form 1040."

Oopsy!
And there is no SS lock box because Gore never became president.

I like that. "These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs." AND the federal programs that they are used to pay for are SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

And any surplus is used to cover any deficit in the budget not covered by income taxes, corporate taxes and excise taxes. Stop playing dumb.

The surplus may be borrowed but must be paid back with interest.

Fat chance of that ever happening. When there is no longer a yearly SS surplus the benefits will be cut or the payroll tax raised or both. SS is seen by the politicians as a pay as you go fund, there is no "trust fund" except in the imaginary world of financial paper. That is why the GOP want to privatize it.

What is Social Security? | National Academy of Social Insurance

Social Security is largely a pay-as-you-go program. This means that today's workers pay Social Security taxes into the program and money flows back out as monthly income to beneficiaries.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I'll help you. Lots of blacks so lots of freeloaders in the South. Not that difficult.

Nope. Not true and even you ignorant trailer trash, bottom feeding, slimy kkk losers know it. Stop blaming blacks for your own failures. Take rewsponsibility for your own words and actions.

Most food stamp recipients are white women and white children. Also high numbers to handicapped vets. More proof that the RWNJ traitors hate our vets.

 

[TooTall]

Has that changed in the last 5 years

"Various payroll taxes are withheld from an employee’s wages. The rates for Social Security taxes and Medicare taxes in 2011 are 4.2 percent and 1.45 percent, respectively. These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs: They are credited to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, and the employee is credited with having paid into both.

Next is federal income tax, which is deposited into the U.S. Treasury general fund when the employer pays the withholding to the IRS. Employees are credited with the amount withheld against their federal income-tax liability when they file Form 1040."

Oopsy!
And there is no SS lock box because Gore never became president.

I like that. "These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs." AND the federal programs that they are used to pay for are SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

And any surplus is used to cover any deficit in the budget not covered by income taxes, corporate taxes and excise taxes. Stop playing dumb.

The surplus may be borrowed but must be paid back with interest.

Fat chance of that ever happening. When there is no longer a yearly SS surplus the benefits will be cut or the payroll tax raised or both. SS is seen by the politicians as a pay as you go fund, there is no "trust fund" except in the imaginary world of financial paper. That is why the GOP want to privatize it.

What is Social Security? | National Academy of Social Insurance

Social Security is largely a pay-as-you-go program. This means that today's workers pay Social Security taxes into the program and money flows back out as monthly income to beneficiaries.

That is not exactly what the Social Security Administration says.

"The Social Security trust funds are financial accounts in the U.S. Treasury. There are two separate Social Security trust funds, the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund pays retirement and survivors benefits, and the Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Fund pays disability benefits.

Social Security taxes and other income are deposited in these accounts, and Social Security benefits are paid from them. The only purposes for which these trust funds can be used are to pay benefits and program administrative costs.

The Social Security trust funds hold money not needed in the current year to pay benefits and administrative costs and, by law, invest it in special Treasury bonds that are guaranteed by the U.S. Government. A market rate of interest is paid to the trust funds on the bonds they hold, and when those bonds reach maturity or are needed to pay benefits, the Treasury redeems them.

Social Security Administration: What are the Trust Funds?

 

[Meathead]

I'll help you. Lots of blacks so lots of freeloaders in the South. Not that difficult.

Nope. Not true and even you ignorant trailer trash, bottom feeding, slimy kkk losers know it. Stop blaming blacks for your own failures. Take rewsponsibility for your own words and actions.

Most food stamp recipients are white women and white children. Also high numbers to handicapped vets. More proof that the RWNJ traitors hate our vets.

You can't handle the truth. You damn well know that America's deep south has a huge number of poor blacks whose lives revolve around government entitlements. Look at the demographics of those states. Almost all rural blacks are sucking on the government tit and at much higher rates than their white counterparts.

If you're black, the numbers will confuse you, so find a white man to explain it to you.

 

[edthecynic]

Oopsy!
And there is no SS lock box because Gore never became president.

I like that. "These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs." AND the federal programs that they are used to pay for are SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

And any surplus is used to cover any deficit in the budget not covered by income taxes, corporate taxes and excise taxes. Stop playing dumb.

The surplus may be borrowed but must be paid back with interest.

Fat chance of that ever happening. When there is no longer a yearly SS surplus the benefits will be cut or the payroll tax raised or both. SS is seen by the politicians as a pay as you go fund, there is no "trust fund" except in the imaginary world of financial paper. That is why the GOP want to privatize it.

What is Social Security? | National Academy of Social Insurance

Social Security is largely a pay-as-you-go program. This means that today's workers pay Social Security taxes into the program and money flows back out as monthly income to beneficiaries.

That is not exactly what the Social Security Administration says.

"The Social Security trust funds are financial accounts in the U.S. Treasury. There are two separate Social Security trust funds, the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund pays retirement and survivors benefits, and the Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Fund pays disability benefits.

Social Security taxes and other income are deposited in these accounts, and Social Security benefits are paid from them. The only purposes for which these trust funds can be used are to pay benefits and program administrative costs.

The Social Security trust funds hold money not needed in the current year to pay benefits and administrative costs and, by law, invest it in special Treasury bonds that are guaranteed by the U.S. Government. A market rate of interest is paid to the trust funds on the bonds they hold, and when those bonds reach maturity or are needed to pay benefits, the Treasury redeems them.

Social Security Administration: What are the Trust Funds?

And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will.

 

[TooTall]

I like that. "These taxes are used to pay for the federal programs." AND the federal programs that they are used to pay for are SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

And any surplus is used to cover any deficit in the budget not covered by income taxes, corporate taxes and excise taxes. Stop playing dumb.

The surplus may be borrowed but must be paid back with interest.

Fat chance of that ever happening. When there is no longer a yearly SS surplus the benefits will be cut or the payroll tax raised or both. SS is seen by the politicians as a pay as you go fund, there is no "trust fund" except in the imaginary world of financial paper. That is why the GOP want to privatize it.

What is Social Security? | National Academy of Social Insurance

Social Security is largely a pay-as-you-go program. This means that today's workers pay Social Security taxes into the program and money flows back out as monthly income to beneficiaries.

That is not exactly what the Social Security Administration says.

"The Social Security trust funds are financial accounts in the U.S. Treasury. There are two separate Social Security trust funds, the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund pays retirement and survivors benefits, and the Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Fund pays disability benefits.

Social Security taxes and other income are deposited in these accounts, and Social Security benefits are paid from them. The only purposes for which these trust funds can be used are to pay benefits and program administrative costs.

The Social Security trust funds hold money not needed in the current year to pay benefits and administrative costs and, by law, invest it in special Treasury bonds that are guaranteed by the U.S. Government. A market rate of interest is paid to the trust funds on the bonds they hold, and when those bonds reach maturity or are needed to pay benefits, the Treasury redeems them.

Social Security Administration: What are the Trust Funds?

And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will.

"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."

 

[jon_berzerk]

He could turn out to be a typical rightwinger

View attachment 90306

profiling is a leftist thing

everyone needs to fit into a certain box

with these cats

male or female

black white asian

upper middle or lower income

sexual preference

and on and on

 

[The Great Goose]

He could turn out to be a typical rightwinger

View attachment 90306

profiling is a leftist thing

everyone needs to fit into a certain box

with these cats

male or female

black white asian

upper middle or lower income

sexual preference

and on and on

police personalities love to label people, just like the actual police.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Donald Trump says “fifty percent” of Americans are lazy freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything”
By Daily News Bin | September 13, 2016 | 8
Donald Trump says “fifty percent” of Americans are lazy freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything”

FacebookTwitterGoogle

So much for Donald Trump’s attempt to paint Hillary Clinton as being divisive because she referred to half of his supporters (roughly twenty percent of voters, and a far lower percentage of the overall population) as being in a “basket of deplorables.” It turns out Trump himself has thrown half the country under the bus with his own words, writing them off as being freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything” because the other half of the country is carrying them.


Whereas Mitt Romney was famously caught writing off “47%” of Americans as being lazy bums during a speech at a private event which was subsequently leaked on video, Donald Trump bizarrely made his remark on television. He told Fox News host Sean Hannity back in June of last year that “The problem we have right now—we have a society that sits back and says we don’t have to do anything. Eventually, the 50 percent cannot carry — and it’s unfair to them — but cannot carry the other 50 percent.”

What a nasty piece of shit this man is. I guardanfuckingtee that a lot of the lower 50% pay state taxes, sales tax and property taxes and most of them work for a goddamn living. What a scum bag! What's even nastier is the reality that parasites like Trump take most of the goddamn wealth that many of the workers in that lower 50% should be getting and fucks them over.

Please god don't do this to America! I beg of you.

you believe in a god matthew?.....i thought you were a man of science?....

 

[edthecynic]

And any surplus is used to cover any deficit in the budget not covered by income taxes, corporate taxes and excise taxes. Stop playing dumb.

The surplus may be borrowed but must be paid back with interest.

Fat chance of that ever happening. When there is no longer a yearly SS surplus the benefits will be cut or the payroll tax raised or both. SS is seen by the politicians as a pay as you go fund, there is no "trust fund" except in the imaginary world of financial paper. That is why the GOP want to privatize it.

What is Social Security? | National Academy of Social Insurance

Social Security is largely a pay-as-you-go program. This means that today's workers pay Social Security taxes into the program and money flows back out as monthly income to beneficiaries.

That is not exactly what the Social Security Administration says.

"The Social Security trust funds are financial accounts in the U.S. Treasury. There are two separate Social Security trust funds, the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund pays retirement and survivors benefits, and the Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Fund pays disability benefits.

Social Security taxes and other income are deposited in these accounts, and Social Security benefits are paid from them. The only purposes for which these trust funds can be used are to pay benefits and program administrative costs.

The Social Security trust funds hold money not needed in the current year to pay benefits and administrative costs and, by law, invest it in special Treasury bonds that are guaranteed by the U.S. Government. A market rate of interest is paid to the trust funds on the bonds they hold, and when those bonds reach maturity or are needed to pay benefits, the Treasury redeems them.

Social Security Administration: What are the Trust Funds?

And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will.

"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."

Nope, all SS benefits are pay as you go, that is why the Right call it a Ponzi Scheme. If those Treasury bonds were ever redeemed the GOP National Debt would have gone down. It never has.

 

[idb]

Donald Trump says “fifty percent” of Americans are lazy freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything”
By Daily News Bin | September 13, 2016 | 8
Donald Trump says “fifty percent” of Americans are lazy freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything”

FacebookTwitterGoogle

So much for Donald Trump’s attempt to paint Hillary Clinton as being divisive because she referred to half of his supporters (roughly twenty percent of voters, and a far lower percentage of the overall population) as being in a “basket of deplorables.” It turns out Trump himself has thrown half the country under the bus with his own words, writing them off as being freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything” because the other half of the country is carrying them.


Whereas Mitt Romney was famously caught writing off “47%” of Americans as being lazy bums during a speech at a private event which was subsequently leaked on video, Donald Trump bizarrely made his remark on television. He told Fox News host Sean Hannity back in June of last year that “The problem we have right now—we have a society that sits back and says we don’t have to do anything. Eventually, the 50 percent cannot carry — and it’s unfair to them — but cannot carry the other 50 percent.”

What a nasty piece of shit this man is. I guardanfuckingtee that a lot of the lower 50% pay state taxes, sales tax and property taxes and most of them work for a goddamn living. What a scum bag! What's even nastier is the reality that parasites like Trump take most of the goddamn wealth that many of the workers in that lower 50% should be getting and fucks them over.

Please god don't do this to America! I beg of you.

Wow...that's even more than 47%!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Oopsy!
And there is no SS lock box because Gore never became president.

And Americans never saved $2,500 a year on their health insurance premiums because Obama never became President. Oh........wait a minute!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You might have something there if states went on welfare, but only people go on welfare.

Red states would be happy to send their Democrats to those blue states I'm sure.

 

[jon_berzerk]

He could turn out to be a typical rightwinger

View attachment 90306

profiling is a leftist thing

everyone needs to fit into a certain box

with these cats

male or female

black white asian

upper middle or lower income

sexual preference

and on and on

police personalities love to label people, just like the actual police.

not sure police profiling is on the same footing

as the leftist profiling

 

[The Great Goose]

He could turn out to be a typical rightwinger

View attachment 90306

profiling is a leftist thing

everyone needs to fit into a certain box

with these cats

male or female

black white asian

upper middle or lower income

sexual preference

and on and on

police personalities love to label people, just like the actual police.

not sure police profiling is on the same footing

as the leftist profiling

have you spoken to either group in real life??

They ask those idiot police questions. They are identical personalities.