DONE - GOING TO JAIL! -- Official: Some Clinton emails 'too damaging' to release'

Disaster?

Stopped a depression, added 9 million jobs, saved the auto industry, killed bin laden .......not too shabby for a community organizer


If it was true, it would be, but its not. There are more unemployed today than in 2007, more on welfare, more on food stamps, and more underemployed. Plus he has doubled the national debt and made Putin look like a statesman. Bin Laden was found using intel developed during the Bush admin, all obozo did was give the ok to hit him. The auto bailout didn't save anything-------------except the UAW and its donations to the DNC.
What?? There are more people unemployed today (with a larger population) than there were when a real estate bubble was propping up the economy??

You don't say?

Regardless, there are fewer people unemployed today, despite the larger population, than there were when Obama became president.
That is only if you only count the ones still qualified to collect unemployment benefits. If you count the ones who ran out of unemployment or was forced to take a part time job the number is way higher.
You idiot. :cuckoo: The second link I posted was to folks no longer collecting unemployment benefits. Even if you add those taking part time jobs for economic reasons, there are still fewer than when Obama became president. And that's still not even factoring in population growth.
After Five Years Of Obamanomics, A Record 100 Million Americans Not Working

What part of record do you not understand?
After Five Years Of Obamanomics, A Record 100 Million Americans Not Working
he Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) jobs report for December counted 74,000 jobs created last month. That was less than half the 200,000 new jobs expected.
Nevertheless, the BLS reported those 74,000 new jobs as reducing at least what it calls the U3 unemployment rate by three tenths of a percentage point, from 7.0% to 6.7%. That was because 347,000 workers fled the work force altogether last month, and so were no longer counted as unemployed.
Those 347,000 workers leaving the workforce altogether were almost 5 times (4.689) the 74,000 new jobs created. But the BLS, and the New York Times, still count that as headline unemployment plummeting on net to 6.7% from 7.0%. In fact, all of the decline in the U3 headline unemployment rate since President Obama entered office has been due to workers leavingthe work force, and therefore no longer counted as unemployed, rather than to new jobs created.
Those 347,000 for December, 2013, however, are still out there not working, and suffering. Indeed, they joined a near record of more than 102 million Americans not working in December, all still out there and suffering without jobs. Those 102 million Americans are the human face of an employment-population ratio stuck at a pitiful 58.6%. In fact, more than 100 million Americans were not working in Obama’s workers’ paradise for all of 2013 and 2012.
You do understand that there is a difference between number of Americans working and number of people, including illegal aliens, working in our country right? 80% of our job growth went to illegal aliens.
Seal the border.
No more immigrants until every American who wants a job has a job that pays a living wage.
Great, another idiot. :eusa_doh: The vast majority of those 100,000 don't want to work. They include retirees, stay-at-home spouses, students, folks collecting government checks, etc...

Currently, there are about 7.9 million people unemployed and another 5.9 who have stopped looking but want a job.
 
If it was true, it would be, but its not. There are more unemployed today than in 2007, more on welfare, more on food stamps, and more underemployed. Plus he has doubled the national debt and made Putin look like a statesman. Bin Laden was found using intel developed during the Bush admin, all obozo did was give the ok to hit him. The auto bailout didn't save anything-------------except the UAW and its donations to the DNC.
What?? There are more people unemployed today (with a larger population) than there were when a real estate bubble was propping up the economy??

You don't say?

Regardless, there are fewer people unemployed today, despite the larger population, than there were when Obama became president.
That is only if you only count the ones still qualified to collect unemployment benefits. If you count the ones who ran out of unemployment or was forced to take a part time job the number is way higher.
You idiot. :cuckoo: The second link I posted was to folks no longer collecting unemployment benefits. Even if you add those taking part time jobs for economic reasons, there are still fewer than when Obama became president. And that's still not even factoring in population growth.
After Five Years Of Obamanomics, A Record 100 Million Americans Not Working

What part of record do you not understand?
After Five Years Of Obamanomics, A Record 100 Million Americans Not Working
he Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) jobs report for December counted 74,000 jobs created last month. That was less than half the 200,000 new jobs expected.
Nevertheless, the BLS reported those 74,000 new jobs as reducing at least what it calls the U3 unemployment rate by three tenths of a percentage point, from 7.0% to 6.7%. That was because 347,000 workers fled the work force altogether last month, and so were no longer counted as unemployed.
Those 347,000 workers leaving the workforce altogether were almost 5 times (4.689) the 74,000 new jobs created. But the BLS, and the New York Times, still count that as headline unemployment plummeting on net to 6.7% from 7.0%. In fact, all of the decline in the U3 headline unemployment rate since President Obama entered office has been due to workers leavingthe work force, and therefore no longer counted as unemployed, rather than to new jobs created.
Those 347,000 for December, 2013, however, are still out there not working, and suffering. Indeed, they joined a near record of more than 102 million Americans not working in December, all still out there and suffering without jobs. Those 102 million Americans are the human face of an employment-population ratio stuck at a pitiful 58.6%. In fact, more than 100 million Americans were not working in Obama’s workers’ paradise for all of 2013 and 2012.
You do understand that there is a difference between number of Americans working and number of people, including illegal aliens, working in our country right? 80% of our job growth went to illegal aliens.
Seal the border.
No more immigrants until every American who wants a job has a job that pays a living wage.
Great, another idiot. :eusa_doh: The vast majority of those 100,000 don't want to work. They include retirees, stay-at-home spouses, students, folks collecting government checks, etc...

Currently, there are about 7.9 million people unemployed and another 5.9 who have stopped looking but want a job.
You must think those who read your posts are idiots if you keep using stats that include working illegal aliens.
I'm one of those 100,000 and I WANT TO WORK!!! So your statement is mere fiction. And it's more than 100,000.
Seal the border.
No new immigrants, unless they bring money or jobs, until every American who wants a job has a job that pays a living wage.

I'm eeking out contractual work because everybody wants to hire pt or seasonable employees only because of Obamacare.
 
What?? There are more people unemployed today (with a larger population) than there were when a real estate bubble was propping up the economy??

You don't say?

Regardless, there are fewer people unemployed today, despite the larger population, than there were when Obama became president.
That is only if you only count the ones still qualified to collect unemployment benefits. If you count the ones who ran out of unemployment or was forced to take a part time job the number is way higher.
You idiot. :cuckoo: The second link I posted was to folks no longer collecting unemployment benefits. Even if you add those taking part time jobs for economic reasons, there are still fewer than when Obama became president. And that's still not even factoring in population growth.
After Five Years Of Obamanomics, A Record 100 Million Americans Not Working

What part of record do you not understand?
After Five Years Of Obamanomics, A Record 100 Million Americans Not Working
he Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) jobs report for December counted 74,000 jobs created last month. That was less than half the 200,000 new jobs expected.
Nevertheless, the BLS reported those 74,000 new jobs as reducing at least what it calls the U3 unemployment rate by three tenths of a percentage point, from 7.0% to 6.7%. That was because 347,000 workers fled the work force altogether last month, and so were no longer counted as unemployed.
Those 347,000 workers leaving the workforce altogether were almost 5 times (4.689) the 74,000 new jobs created. But the BLS, and the New York Times, still count that as headline unemployment plummeting on net to 6.7% from 7.0%. In fact, all of the decline in the U3 headline unemployment rate since President Obama entered office has been due to workers leavingthe work force, and therefore no longer counted as unemployed, rather than to new jobs created.
Those 347,000 for December, 2013, however, are still out there not working, and suffering. Indeed, they joined a near record of more than 102 million Americans not working in December, all still out there and suffering without jobs. Those 102 million Americans are the human face of an employment-population ratio stuck at a pitiful 58.6%. In fact, more than 100 million Americans were not working in Obama’s workers’ paradise for all of 2013 and 2012.
You do understand that there is a difference between number of Americans working and number of people, including illegal aliens, working in our country right? 80% of our job growth went to illegal aliens.
Seal the border.
No more immigrants until every American who wants a job has a job that pays a living wage.
Great, another idiot. :eusa_doh: The vast majority of those 100,000 don't want to work. They include retirees, stay-at-home spouses, students, folks collecting government checks, etc...

Currently, there are about 7.9 million people unemployed and another 5.9 who have stopped looking but want a job.
You must think those who read your posts are idiots if you keep using stats that include working illegal aliens.
I'm one of those 100,000 and I WANT TO WORK!!! So your statement is mere fiction. And it's more than 100,000.
Seal the border.
No new immigrants, unless they bring money or jobs, until every American who wants a job has a job that pays a living wage.

I'm eeking out contractual work because everybody wants to hire pt or seasonable employees only because of Obamacare.
Like I give a fuck that you either reject or simply flat out don't understand the BLS figures. :eusa_doh:
 
....yup, this thread is definitely closed, having been evolved into another topic...
 
Yes I always at least scan thru it. I TOLD U I could not find any "receivers" doing time but I found some "senders". Some of those had classified documents and provided them to others, got caught. Agreed. not the same thing as emailing around. unless Bloomenthal or her Lawyer was chock full of Classified?

So essentially, you don't have anyone who actually did what Hillary did ever going to prison for it. Got it.

It would have been a violation of the NARA's rules in the Code of Federal Regulations for Clinton to use personal email exclusively, Metcalfe said. The code requires federal agencies to make and preserve records that duly document agency activity, so that they are readily available when needed -- such as for FOIA requests or congressional inquiries. Using personal email exclusively is contrary to proper record preservation.

So since all her work e-mails came to her from .gov senders, they were properly perserved, and she handed over all the government ones. Not seeing a problem here.

You see, part of the problem here is that if her IT was like most IT's, they encourage you to clean up your e-mail on a regular basis, getting rid of old messages. Otherwise you mail box exceeds it's data storage capacity. It's expected the IT Department will archive everything. So what you are trying to do is prosecute a grandmother for not being an IT person. Good luck with that.

Again- crazy idea. How about trying to beat Mrs. Clinton on the issues.
 
See, the law requires that you safeguard classified information that you DO have legitimate access to, and there are stiff penalties for any violations.....

And we know that Hillary had over 1,300 emails containing classified information on her server.....

Now explain how having her turn that information over to some yahoo in Denver (with NO security clearance) where he could store it IN HIS BATHROOM is no big deal.....

Again, please cite a case where someone was actually imprisoned for doing that. Thanks.

You don't have a case. You see, the problem is, a mere violation isn't enough for a conviction. You guys need to prove intent, not that someone merely violated the law.
 
Name someone who illegally used an unsanctioned server to read their email with.

Probably half the people in the government. Between Cell phones, lap tops, Google Glass etc. The problem is the rules were written in the 20th century without being able to account for current technology.
 
Hillary's IT requirements were NOT like everyone else's, as hers were required to obey a host of laws.

...and half the people in the govt aren't under investigation.

She broke the law, proven. The arguments about markings and the State Dept having cleared her of anything have been proven false.
 
Hillary's IT requirements were NOT like everyone else's, as hers were required to obey a host of laws.

...and half the people in the govt aren't under investigation.

She broke the law, proven. The arguments about markings and the State Dept having cleared her of anything have been proven false.

really, when did this happen.

Here's how it's going to play out, buddy. The FBI will send its findings to Justice, without a recommendation, and Justice will decline to prosecute. Then Congress will have hearings, and probably end up leaking all the e-mails in question, and we'll find out they were really no big deal and State was right in the first place.

Hillary will then win easily because the Republican Establishment will sabotage Cruz or Trump if they are the nominee.
 
again:

Like Petraeus, Clinton “knowingly removed such documents or materials.” Cuccinelli points out that she actually committed this crime on a significant scale three separate times: First, by setting up her e-mail system to route messages to and through her unsecured server, then by moving the server to Platte River Networks, a private company, in June of 2013, and then by transferring the server’s contents to her private lawyers in 2014.
Petraaeus knowingly provided classified information to his uncleared girlfriend
Rightwingers are so dumb it's not funny.

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See, the law requires that you safeguard classified information that you DO have legitimate access to, and there are stiff penalties for any violations.....

And we know that Hillary had over 1,300 emails containing classified information on her server.....

Now explain how having her turn that information over to some yahoo in Denver (with NO security clearance) where he could store it IN HIS BATHROOM is no big deal.....

Again, please cite a case where someone was actually imprisoned for doing that. Thanks.

You don't have a case. You see, the problem is, a mere violation isn't enough for a conviction. You guys need to prove intent, not that someone merely violated the law.
Joey, remind me to NEVER let you represent me in court (even on a traffic ticket)....

I can just hear you now: "But Your Honor, you HAVE to throw the case out!!! In fact, you HAVE no case, because my client DIDN'T INTEND to do 92 miles per hour in a school zone!!!"

Then watch the judge tell you what a fool you are before he gives your client the MAXIMUM prison term!!!!
 
The rubes never learn.

Oh wait. This time is different from the other hundred times they declared Obama or Hillary was going to jail for certain. Just because ... well, it is, that's why!

Can you imagine how bleak their lives must be that the only thrill left is waiting for Hillary to go to jail (and all of the lurid fantasies they entertain themselves with)? So sad, really. :(


I don't think she will go to jail, she should but with Obama and Lynch at the controls they will find a way to ignore the FBI findings.

Now, if she loses the first few primary states, things might change. remember, the obamas and Clintons hate each other and Obama would much rather back Biden
Obama urged Biden not to run. He hates Hillary so much that he named her Sec of State.......ensuring her the presidency in 2016


you are either very ignorant or very stupid. Clinton was SecState as part of a deal with obozo to keep quiet with what she had on him regarding his past and help him win in 2008.

The Biden thing was just that, a thing. The conjured that up to make it look like they supported the hildebeast while watching her self destruct, leaving Biden as the only viable candidate. Obozo knows he could control Biden.

It amazes me that you are so blind that you cant see how this all unfolded. Are you that partisan that it has killed every one of your brain cells?
Quite a conspiracy you have going there

Wanna talk about the moon landing?
LoL!

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Her excuse saying that they were noer t marked classified is a horrible excuse. Hello you want to be president and you cant tell what is classified or not .. Sorry go to jail
"The intelligence community has now deemed some of Hillary Clinton’s emails “too damaging" to national security to release under any circumstances, according to a U.S. government official close to the ongoing review. A second source, who was not authorized to speak on the record, backed up the finding. "

"Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey, Hey, Hey
GOOD-BYE!"

Go to jail. Go DIRECTLY to Jail. Do NOT pass 'Go'. Do NOT collect $200. Do NOT Win the DNC Nomination. Do NOT continue Campaigning. Do NOT get put on the ballot. DO go down as the 1st 1st Lady to Go to Jail for NUMEROUS Felonies - crimes under the ESPIONAGE Act and for CORRUPTION Charges!

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Selling Russia 1/5th of the US uranium Stockpile.

Caught and stopped TRYING to sell the Russians several of the Aleutian Islands & their mineral rights.

Caught taking contributions from foreign millionaire whose company she protected from legal punishment for violating Iranian Sanctions - running illegal goods to Iran - WHILE she served as Secretary of State ('Corruption'/'Influence Peddling)

Taking millions from Islamic nations that finance and support terrorism.

Taking millions from Islamic nations that oppress women, engage in female genital mutilation, and who murder homosexuals.

Hiring an AL QAEIDA-associated Militia to protect a US Ambassador.

Abandoning a US Ambassador in a hostile environment amidst terrorist threats that forced EVERY other nation with people in Benghazi to pull them out.

REJECTING OVER 600 pleas for additional security from the on-site US Ambassador AND TAKING AWAY 14 members of the Ambassador's security detail in the midst of these threats, a call for his assassination, AND after 2 previous terror attacks on his compound, the last of which before his murder left a 4-foot hole in his compound wall.

Denying UNDER OATH she knew what happened that night, ONLY to have HER OWN E-MAILS expose she told the Turkish Ambassador after the 13-hour attack that resulted in 4 Americans dead that she KNEW the video had nothing to do with the attack, that this was a terrorist attack; revealed that she told her own daughter that this was a terrorist attack; then told the world and the grieving families it was all about a video...thern ended up calling the grieving families 'Liars'!

Broke the law by not signing the required legal document, upon getting her security clearance required to do the job as Secretary of State, stating she had received her classification training.

Violated Administration rules and the law by not providing copies of ALL State Dept-related documents and e-mails to the State Dept for required recording/holding. The State Dept made it clear Hillary did NOT turn over all documents AS SHE CLAIMED UNDER OATH TO HAVE DONE.

Lied under oath about not using a legal private server, using MULTIPLE electronic devices (not just 'one'), and about NOT sending / receiving classified information. She later changed her statement to cover ass by saying she had not sent/received an e-mails / documents MARKED classified.
-- Since then the FBI has evidence that Hillary ordered subordinates to strip the classification markings off documents and to send them vis UNCLASS means for the sake of 'ease' and 'expedience'. These workers have stated this was not a 1-time thing but was almost 'SOP'! Thatm btw, is a CRIME.

Illegal handling, storage, and attempted destruction of Classified / EXTREMELY classified information capable of seriously damaging our national security.
- The company handling her server, which illegally had different / multiple classifications of information on 1 server (illegal) - did not have the appropriate legal clearance to hold/store/handle the classified information.
- Her lawyer was walking around with a USB drive that contained highly classified information without a security clearance, violating laws regarding handling, transporting, and storage of classified information.

Hillary broke the law by not signing the Federal Document stating she had released / returned all security documents and that she was keeping none of them (according to one report), which is a crime. If she DID sign the document, in light of all the classified State Dept-related information found in her position, she broke the law for keeping all this classified information.
-- Once you quit/step down/leave a job/program dealing with COMPARTMENTALIZED Highly Classified information the business/organization 'READS YOU OUT' of the program. From that point on it is ILLEGAL for you to have access to the information let alone have any of it in your possession!!!! The FBI just confirmed Hillary has / had compartmentalized Highly Classified info in her possession...ILLEGALLY.

(If they wanted to press it and make the case, considering her dealings with Russia and taking money from Islamic countries and others - such as the guy she 'helped' violate US Sanctions on Iran, a case of possible TREASON / REAL 'ESPIONAGE' could me made. (Not that it would stick, but it could be made...)

NOW the FBI is reporting that the information Hillary has / had in her possession was / is SO HIGHLY CLASSIFIED AND DANGEROUS TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY that they CAN'T even REDACT it enough to release ANY of it!

HOLY CR@P! Stick a fork in her. SHE IS DONE! There is NO WAY the DOJ and / or Obama could possibly refuse to call for a Grand Jury / agree to indict her! Doing so to protect Ex-Atty General Eric Holder for multiple counts of Felony Perjury while attempting to keep Obama's 'Fast and Furious' scandal buried was easy to pull off because his criminal acts did not rise to the level of being capable of 'seriously causing damage to our national security'! Hillary, though? She'll be lucky if ALL they charge her with is 'NEGLIGENCE' under the Esionage Act!

The claim is made by the U.S. State Department, the U.S. Diplomatic Security Service, and the U.S. Diplomatic Intelligence service, not by Ms. Clinton alone.

You seem to want to deliberately ignore that fact.

"No classified information passed through the server(s) used by Secretary Clinton", that is what the U.S. State Department said.

The emails were classified until Five (05) Years after the fact, you ignore that as well. At the time the emails were passed through the server(s) used by Ms. Clinton, the emails were not classified.

There is no credible evidence to sustain claims you are making.

The emails in question were NOT classified at the time of transmission to the server(s) used by Ms. Clinton.

What part of NOT CLASSIFIED AT THE TIME OF TRANSMISSION DO YOU FAIL TO COMPREHEND?

No laws could have been violated if the emails were not classified at the time of transmission, you do understand that right?

I will again remind you and other conservatives that Karl Rover while serving as a senior adviser used a private
server provided by the R.N.C. and you Cons did not do jack shit about it. Not even when millions of emails held on those servers were deleted. NOT ONE FUCKING WORD.

Condoleezza Rice has admitted that while she served as National Security Adviser and later as Secretary of State to bush43 that she did in fact use a private server her emails . Not one peep from you Cons on that.

Now, OMMFG...Hillary used a private server.

The Sky Is Falling Henny Penny. The Sky Is Falling.

This is sheer RW hysteria. Suddenly and only when a Democrat uses a private server does use of a private server is it against the law.

Only when a Democrat uses a private server is the use of a private server against the law.

Not when Millions of White House Emails deleted by a Republican Operative is use of a private server against the law.

Only when a Democrat uses a private server.

Not when a Republican National Security Adviser/Secretary of State uses a private server.

Only when a Democrat uses a private server.

There is no clear violation of law. The emails were not classified at the time of transmission.

No classified material was transmitted by Ms. Clinton.

The Sky Is Falling Henny Penny....The Sky Is Falling Henny Penny.

But only when a Democrat does the exact same thing a Republican has done, only then is it wrong.
So true. Preach!
Doesn't matter how big you are you don't get to make your own security rules......even Obama

That's why Hillary is in trouble, stupid. She broke the rules.
Actually, she followed the rules and security classifications of the time she was Secretary of State
Actually she DIDN'T.

When she received her security clearance as Sect of State she received training on handling and storage of classified documents / information. She did not sign the federal document required by law acknowleding this. THAT IS A CRIME.

Her private server did not meet federally required Legal standards. THAT IS A CRIME.

Giving her server to a company not authorized and whose employees do not have proper clearances to store and maintain it BY LAW is a CRIME.

Ordering a subordinate to strip the classified markings of a document and send it via UNCLASS means, intentionally, as several of her employees say she did, IS A CRIME.

PERJURY, testifying under oath to only using 1...then 2 devices...and then it turning out to be 3...IS A CRIME.

But you keep parroting the lies....it's all you've been taught by your 'master'.

'HILLARY SAID / SAYS...'

You want to send Hillary to jail because of not signing her classified briefing statement?

Damn...you guys are tough
1 of many, my friend...and thank you for acknowledging she broke the law...and that liberals like to pick and choose which laws they want to enforce and which laws they don't (which are usually the ones they break).


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Can one morally vote for the lesser of two evils? In a word, no. A basic principle of Judeo-Christian teaching and of the natural law to which the country was married by the Declaration of Independence is that one may not knowingly do evil that good may come of it.

***

So, is a vote for [a third party] or no vote at all wasted? I reject the idea that a principled vote is wasted. Your vote is yours, and so long as your vote is consistent with your conscience, it is impossible to waste your vote.

On the other hand, even a small step toward the free market and away from … central economic planning would be at least a small improvement for every American’s freedom. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

A vote for someone who can't win and can't run the country if they did is a wasted vote.

Not if people like you stopped saying such things. THAT is the reason why people don't look more at 3rd party candidates. You government lackeys have them convinced that their votes would be "wasted." Not true. People just need to stop listening to people like you.
 
If we don't demand change and take action, then change is NEVER going to happen. I suppose many of you are happy with the status quo or just too stupid to know any better.
 
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Yes, Bush fucked up the region really good and we'll probably be spending years there trying to fix it. What is your point, dummy?

But your Boy fought the war for three years and then called the Iraq War a success and your Bitch Hillary voted for the invasion. You Libtards can deny and spin all you want because that is what you do instead of the truth but you can't run away from that.



ton gave Bush the authority, on the premise he would use it responsibly. IT's not her fault he didn't.

Obama fucked up the war. He said it was a success after fighting it for three years and then he withdrew the troops and lost what many Americans died for and now he is back fighting again. Dumbass.


it wasn't EXACTLY the same thing. Hillary said that from her perspective, Bosnia in the middle of the Balkan War was a pretty scary place. I'm sure the hundreds of armed men around her and her daughter made it so.

Williams claimed his helicopter had been hit. It wasn't.

It was exactly the same kind of stolen valor. Both the shitheads claim they were under fire when they weren't.

You can hold that Williams asshole accountable for being a dickhead by not watching any of his stupid shows.

You can holed The Bitch accountable for her lying and stolen valor by not voting for her for President. You think you can do the right thing for a change?
Do you hold Bill O'Reilly accountable for his stolen valor?

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