Don's chances of a successful appeal are not good. Does it matter?

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Trump Has Few Ways to Overturn His Conviction as a New York Felon

New York appellate courts rarely overturn a jury decision without evidence of serious errors. The judge in Donald J. Trump’s case closed off many avenues.

“This is long from over,” Donald J. Trump, the former president and current felon, declared on Thursday, moments after a Manhattan jury convicted him on 34 counts of falsifying records to cover up a sex scandal.

Mr. Trump, the first American president to be branded a criminal, is banking on the jury not having the final word on his legal fate or his political fortunes. He will now appeal, both to a higher court and the American people, seeking to contain the fallout as he campaigns for the White House.

But even if the former — and possibly future — president persuades voters to toss his conviction aside, the appellate courts might not be so sympathetic.

Although Mr. Trump proclaimed at a news conference on Friday that he had plenty of ammunition to overturn what he called “this scam,” several legal experts cast doubt on his chances of success, and noted that the case could take years to snake through the courts.


Talk of an appeal is largely just Kabuki theater by the carnival barker known as The Orange One. It satisfies The Following's psychological need for their favorite felon's absolution but in reality it's really just a way to bash the verdict, and thus the system of justice.

Failure is likely, but does it matter? Surely not to the devoted minions. In their eyes Dear Leader is incapable of committing a crime as evidenced by their collective freak out over 34 unanimous findings of guilt. Unanimous because HE DID IT. He did exactly what he was charged with doing. No amount of mental gymnastics and Orwellian spin can change that. Trump is a convicted felon for a singular reason. HE DID IT.
 

Trump Has Few Ways to Overturn His Conviction as a New York Felon

New York appellate courts rarely overturn a jury decision without evidence of serious errors. The judge in Donald J. Trump’s case closed off many avenues.

“This is long from over,” Donald J. Trump, the former president and current felon, declared on Thursday, moments after a Manhattan jury convicted him on 34 counts of falsifying records to cover up a sex scandal.

Mr. Trump, the first American president to be branded a criminal, is banking on the jury not having the final word on his legal fate or his political fortunes. He will now appeal, both to a higher court and the American people, seeking to contain the fallout as he campaigns for the White House.

But even if the former — and possibly future — president persuades voters to toss his conviction aside, the appellate courts might not be so sympathetic.

Although Mr. Trump proclaimed at a news conference on Friday that he had plenty of ammunition to overturn what he called “this scam,” several legal experts cast doubt on his chances of success, and noted that the case could take years to snake through the courts.


Talk of an appeal is largely just Kabuki theater by the carnival barker known as The Orange One. It satisfies The Following's psychological need for their favorite felon's absolution but in reality it's really just a way to bash the verdict, and thus the system of justice.

Failure is likely, but does it matter? Surely not to the devoted minions. In their eyes Dear Leader is incapable of committing a crime as evidenced by their collective freak out over 34 unanimous findings of guilt. Unanimous because HE DID IT. He did exactly what he was charged with doing. No amount of mental gymnastics and Orwellian spin can change that. Trump is a convicted felon for a singular reason. HE DID IT.
Convict him of more crimes. More will vote for him.
 
Just think of the world headlines when Trump is out cleaning trash up along the road ways.
Seeing as these were white collar crimes I question whether he will serve time in the slammer. OTOH, potentially altering the outcome of a presidential election, and the damage to the country that ensued, calls for severe punishment. But he has a way of slithering out of trouble so I doubt he'll get what he deserves.
 
How do you figure? The majority of the Supreme Court are Little Trumpsters. Who is going to turn against Trump? Alito? Thomas? Kav?
 
Seeing as these were white collar crimes I question whether he will serve time in the slammer. OTOH, potentially altering the outcome of a presidential election, and the damage to the country that ensued, calls for severe punishment. But he has a way of slithering out of trouble so I doubt he'll get what he deserves.

Community service.
 
Countless legal scholars say you don't have a clue what you are talking about. :itsok:
There are no doubt differences of opinion regarding an appeal. But in NY they are rarely successful unless there were glaring errors during the trial........of which there were none.
 
Community service.
Yup, maybe something like that. A fine, probation, and community service. Maybe speak in front of high school students, telling them not to follow his criminal path.
 

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