Dr Martin Luther King saved this country

[Redfish]

Please...shut the fuck up with that stupidity.
MLK caused nothing, he never committed a violent act against those that were murdering, raping, beating and blowing up children.

If my response to an individual that wants the right to vote, stay at a hotel of their choice and not be treated as a third rate non-citizen is to murder and kill, then those actions are mine and mine alone.

Yeah he saved this country. Had he not their would be continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets.
Black people has enough of the treatment Jim Crow and segregation handed to them, too many whites wanted a South Africa.
That wasn't going to happen.

Can you imagine how most of us would have reacted if someone had blown up a church killing little girls and the government covered it up and refused to prosecute?
How many of us would have peacefully marched across the Edmund Pettus bridge in Selma and allowed the police to beat us with billy clubs without reacting ?

Violence would have been a natural response and it would have destroyed the country in a race war. Dr King won his revolution without firing a shot

MLK did good things for the country and race relations, so did JFK. But neither of them saved the country.

The problem is that we no longer have any MLKs or JFKs. The message of MLK has been corrupted by race baiters and shit stirrers like Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and Obama. Those 4 people have undone the good done by MLK and JFK. Those 4 people are personally responsible for the current state or race relations in this country. MLK is turning over in his grave at how the so-called black leaders of today have destroyed the good that he did.

Martin Luther King would be thrilled to death with black President Barack Obama

and for the record. obama is half white, half black arab-----------he is NOT an african american.

For the record, almost every black american has some white in their bloodline

how many is "almost all" ? My point is that obama's non white half is not black african, its black arab

 

[paperview]

MLK did good things for the country and race relations, so did JFK. But neither of them saved the country.

The problem is that we no longer have any MLKs or JFKs. The message of MLK has been corrupted by race baiters and shit stirrers like Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and Obama. Those 4 people have undone the good done by MLK and JFK. Those 4 people are personally responsible for the current state or race relations in this country. MLK is turning over in his grave at how the so-called black leaders of today have destroyed the good that he did.

Martin Luther King would be thrilled to death with black President Barack Obama

and for the record. obama is half white, half black arab-----------he is NOT an african american.

Your buddy Rush Limbaugh refers to him as a "Halfrican."

The insistence of these racists in reminding us that President Obama is half white is laughable

A half white Obama would have beed forced to ride in the back of the bus, would have had his voting rights restricted, couldn't eat in restaurants or stayed in public hotels.....

He would not be allowed to drink from white water fountains half the time

Dr King put an end to that

none of those things happened to obama. he was raised in hawaii and indonesia, smoked pot, loafed around, and tried to look cool.

King did not put an end to those things, the civil rights act of 1965 did, and it was passed by republicans in spite of democrat fillibusters.

"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism." - Martin Luther King Jr.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Well considering how long it took to end slavery - and how long Jim Crow was in effect - I think 10 years sounds unrealistically optimistic.

by 40 years or so - at least.

Where would the impetus for change have come from?

 

[Redfish]

Well considering how long it took to end slavery - and how long Jim Crow was in effect - I think 10 years sounds unrealistically optimistic.

by 40 years or so - at least.

Where would the impetus for change have come from?

human nature, Christian beliefs, the general goodness of human beings, the constitution, the bill of rights, churches, common sense.

 

[Redfish]

Martin Luther King would be thrilled to death with black President Barack Obama

and for the record. obama is half white, half black arab-----------he is NOT an african american.

Your buddy Rush Limbaugh refers to him as a "Halfrican."

The insistence of these racists in reminding us that President Obama is half white is laughable

A half white Obama would have beed forced to ride in the back of the bus, would have had his voting rights restricted, couldn't eat in restaurants or stayed in public hotels.....

He would not be allowed to drink from white water fountains half the time

Dr King put an end to that

none of those things happened to obama. he was raised in hawaii and indonesia, smoked pot, loafed around, and tried to look cool.

King did not put an end to those things, the civil rights act of 1965 did, and it was passed by republicans in spite of democrat fillibusters.

"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism." - Martin Luther King Jr.

if he said that, he was wrong. no one is right 100% of the time.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Well considering how long it took to end slavery - and how long Jim Crow was in effect - I think 10 years sounds unrealistically optimistic.

by 40 years or so - at least.

Where would the impetus for change have come from?

human nature, Christian beliefs, the general goodness of human beings, the constitution, the bill of rights, churches, common sense.

So how long did it take those things to do away with slavery?

But of course there is no firm case one way or another since it's all speculation. But given our history and the general slow pace of change (without a major impetus like King provided), I personally think 10 years is too optimistic. But yes, we will never know for sure - thank goodness.

 

[Redfish]

Well considering how long it took to end slavery - and how long Jim Crow was in effect - I think 10 years sounds unrealistically optimistic.

by 40 years or so - at least.

Where would the impetus for change have come from?

human nature, Christian beliefs, the general goodness of human beings, the constitution, the bill of rights, churches, common sense.

So how long did it take those things to do away with slavery?

But of course there is no firm case one way or another since it's all speculation. But given our history and the general slow pace of change (without a major impetus like King provided), I personally think 10 years is too optimistic. But yes, we will never know for sure - thank goodness.

too long, whats your point?
Societal change is always hard.
But we in the US generally get it right in the end.

But, forced societal change never works. Legislated societal change never works. Mandated societal change never works--------can you say Henry the VIII?

 

[GreenBean]

Had he not their would be continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets.

Although I agree with the bulk of your post and admire MLK - the fact that we have "continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets" does not add well to your case . If you believe that there is not domestic terrorism in the streets try walking through Bedford Stuyvestant in NY or Ferguson in Missouri - Regardless of what race you are. Try walking through a neighborhood run by the Bloods or Latin Kings .... or a no-go zone such as in Dearborn Michigan where only Moslems are allowed .....

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

King was a communist who cheated on his wife frequently. He was a tremendous advocate for Negro self-sufficiency and a color blind society.
So we honor his memory by not working,not going to school etc.

Should be easy enough for you since you don't work or go to school anyway.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Had he not their would be continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets.

Although I agree with the bulk of your post and admire MLK - the fact that we have "continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets" does not add well to your case . .

Perhaps if the far right hadn't had him assassinated in 1968 we wouldn't have so much of this today.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Actually it was the Republicans and the Civil Rights Act.... but certainly MLK was a major player in civil rights reform.

 

[GreenBean]

Had he not their would be continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets.

Although I agree with the bulk of your post and admire MLK - the fact that we have "continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets" does not add well to your case . .

Perhaps if the far right hadn't had him assassinated in 1968 we wouldn't have so much of this today.

This is True - Damn those Democrats for Murdering such a great Man

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

It's a stunning memorial on the National Mall. I hope to be able to visit it someday soon.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Had he not their would be continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets.

Although I agree with the bulk of your post and admire MLK - the fact that we have "continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets" does not add well to your case . .

Perhaps if the far right hadn't had him assassinated in 1968 we wouldn't have so much of this today.

This is True - Damn those Democrats for Murdering such a great Man

You probably believe the Warren report, too.

 

[Claudette]

MLK was a great man and a courageous one.

He did the things he did knowing full well that some racist asshole could kill him at any time.

A great man indeed.

 

[GreenBean]

Had he not their would be continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets.

Although I agree with the bulk of your post and admire MLK - the fact that we have "continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets" does not add well to your case . .

Perhaps if the far right hadn't had him assassinated in 1968 we wouldn't have so much of this today.

This is True - Damn those Democrats for Murdering such a great Man

You probably believe the Warren report, too.

Of course not LBJ had JFK wacked - didn't you know that ?

 

[rightwinger]

...
Could integration have happened peacefully and naturally? We will never know. But having lived through that, I think it could have.

For gawdssake...it was a hundred years after slavery was abolished...

Peacefully and naturally my ass.

It was happening, I was there, in the south at that time. Sure there were assholes on both sides, but the majority were seeing that segregation and discrimination were wrong....

How many more decades do you think it would have taken to "peacefully and naturally" end segregation and Jim Crow laws?

realistically it might have taken another 10 years. But we will never know will we?

10 years when they had already had 100 years to "do it on their own"?

 

[rightwinger]

MLK did good things for the country and race relations, so did JFK. But neither of them saved the country.

The problem is that we no longer have any MLKs or JFKs. The message of MLK has been corrupted by race baiters and shit stirrers like Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and Obama. Those 4 people have undone the good done by MLK and JFK. Those 4 people are personally responsible for the current state or race relations in this country. MLK is turning over in his grave at how the so-called black leaders of today have destroyed the good that he did.

Martin Luther King would be thrilled to death with black President Barack Obama

and for the record. obama is half white, half black arab-----------he is NOT an african american.

Your buddy Rush Limbaugh refers to him as a "Halfrican."

The insistence of these racists in reminding us that President Obama is half white is laughable

A half white Obama would have beed forced to ride in the back of the bus, would have had his voting rights restricted, couldn't eat in restaurants or stayed in public hotels.....

He would not be allowed to drink from white water fountains half the time

Dr King put an end to that

none of those things happened to obama. he was raised in hawaii and indonesia, smoked pot, loafed around, and tried to look cool.

King did not put an end to those things, the civil rights act of 1965 did, and it was passed by republicans in spite of democrat fillibusters.

There would have been no Civil Rights act of 1965 without King

 

[NoNukes]

A lot of that kind of thing happened BECAUSE of MLK. Not saying it is ever right when either side does it. But King did cause a lot of violence even though he preached against it.

I lived through that period. It was a bad time in the USA, King helped with his message of non-violence, but he did not save the country.

Please...shut the fuck up with that stupidity.
MLK caused nothing, he never committed a violent act against those that were murdering, raping, beating and blowing up children.

If my response to an individual that wants the right to vote, stay at a hotel of their choice and not be treated as a third rate non-citizen is to murder and kill, then those actions are mine and mine alone.

Yeah he saved this country. Had he not their would be continual violence, retribution and domestic terrorism in the streets.
Black people has enough of the treatment Jim Crow and segregation handed to them, too many whites wanted a South Africa.
That wasn't going to happen.

Can you imagine how most of us would have reacted if someone had blown up a church killing little girls and the government covered it up and refused to prosecute?
How many of us would have peacefully marched across the Edmund Pettus bridge in Selma and allowed the police to beat us with billy clubs without reacting ?

Violence would have been a natural response and it would have destroyed the country in a race war. Dr King won his revolution without firing a shot

MLK did good things for the country and race relations, so did JFK. But neither of them saved the country.

The problem is that we no longer have any MLKs or JFKs. The message of MLK has been corrupted by race baiters and shit stirrers like Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and Obama. Those 4 people have undone the good done by MLK and JFK. Those 4 people are personally responsible for the current state or race relations in this country. MLK is turning over in his grave at how the so-called black leaders of today have destroyed the good that he did.

Martin Luther King would be thrilled to death with black President Barack Obama

and for the record. obama is half white, half black arab-----------he is NOT an african american.

Where was his father from.

 

[Redfish]

Martin Luther King would be thrilled to death with black President Barack Obama

and for the record. obama is half white, half black arab-----------he is NOT an african american.

Your buddy Rush Limbaugh refers to him as a "Halfrican."

The insistence of these racists in reminding us that President Obama is half white is laughable

A half white Obama would have beed forced to ride in the back of the bus, would have had his voting rights restricted, couldn't eat in restaurants or stayed in public hotels.....

He would not be allowed to drink from white water fountains half the time

Dr King put an end to that

none of those things happened to obama. he was raised in hawaii and indonesia, smoked pot, loafed around, and tried to look cool.

King did not put an end to those things, the civil rights act of 1965 did, and it was passed by republicans in spite of democrat fillibusters.

There would have been no Civil Rights act of 1965 without King

That is simply not true. The country was changing, King was part of it, but he was not the only one by a long shot. It would have happened without him.

This thread is about the claim of the OP than MLK saved the country. That is a bullshit premise and completely illogical.