Elizabeth Warren's DNA test results point to Native American heritage

The Chief of Cherokee Nation, Bill John Baker, is 1/32 Cherokee.

How much Cherokee is he?

I guess Warren is qualified to be Chief.
Lol
She says the test points to maybe 1/1024... Although she’s change her story five or six times.
You dumbass motherfucker

1/1024 is not American Indian in anyway
Are you doubting a world-class geneticist?
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Ask a native american, i believe it does. Lol, liberals cannot do anything right. You elected a negro that was half white.
She never claimed to be pary of a tribe, so why does it matter?
The percent of blood is not relavent to be a Cherokee. You have to trace your ancestry back to at least one of a group of people. Warren has too many holes in her ancestry so she can not show it.

When everyone is super no one will be!
Warren can now stand proudly in front of crowds full of thousands of people who are all Cherokee Indians just like her!

Jo
Yep, Most Caucasians in this country have a better racial than her. The Loopy kunt has no credibility
 
"world class" means he is liberal and votes Dem.

Produce a blood sample for ALL to test. Stop hiding this lie behind one left wing liar "expert."
 
Is it enough for her to join a tribe?
Does it matter?
Ask a native american, i believe it does. Lol, liberals cannot do anything right. You elected a negro that was half white.
She never claimed to be pary of a tribe, so why does it matter?
The percent of blood is not relavent to be a Cherokee. You have to trace your ancestry back to at least one of a group of people. Warren has too many holes in her ancestry so she can not show it.
wrong.

The facts: Elizabeth Warren and her Native American ties

Warren’s central offense dates back to the mid 1980s, when she first formally notified law school administrators that her family tree includes Native Americans. Warren said she grew up with family stories about both grandparents on her mother’s side having some Cherokee or Delaware blood.


Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law - The Boston Globe
You are more Indian then she is...
 
The stupidity of tRumpkins knows no bounds.

You ask for proof and she gets it for you but you still don't believe it.
Exactly.
yea, 36+ year old unsubstantiated assault cases are proof to liberals so i can only imagine that 6-10 generations of unadmixed background makes her enough indian to lay claim to it.

stupidity all over this am.
It means she was telling the truth when she grew up hearing there were Indians in her ancestry. And she took the DNA test at the prodding of trump.

Rightards are still bitching about it. :badgrin:

No, it really doesn't. Everything she's said about "grew up hearing there were Indians in her ancestry" was actally debunked by this study. Too bad for your narrative that she was pretty specific about what she "heard growing up".

Leftards are still lying about it.

Wow, you people are so fucking dumb that you don;t even know how dumb you are.

I'll take that as an "I want to believe it, so never mind the facts!"
 
The only Indian in Elizabeth Warren is if she eats Tandoori Chicken, or similar.
 
Oh look, there's only ONE tribe that Warren could even REMOTELY stand a chance at joining, assuming she was 1/32nd Native... which they don't know.

Tribes that hold their Blood Quantum at 1/2

Kialegee Tribal Town
Miccosukee Tribe of Indians of Florida
Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, Mississippi
St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin
White Mountain Apache Tribe, of Arizona
Yomba Shoshone Tribe, of Nevada

Tribes requiring 1/4 degree blood quantum (equal to one grandparent) for membership

Absentee-Shawnee Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation, of Washington
Ho-Chunk Nation of Wisconsin
Hopi Tribe of Arizona
Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma
Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation, Arizona
Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes, of Montana
Navajo Nation, Arizona, Utah and New Mexico
Oneida Tribe of Indians, of Wisconsin
Pascua Yaqui Tribe, of Arizona
Prairie Band Potawatomi Nation, of Kansas
Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation, of Wyoming
Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, North and South Dakota
United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, of Oklahoma
Utu Utu Gwaitu Paiute Tribe, of California
Yavapai-Prescott Tribe, of Arizona
Blackfeet Tribe, of Montana

Tribes requiring 1/8 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-grandparent) for membership

Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Comanche Nation, of Oklahoma
Delaware Nation, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Reservation, of Oregon
Fort Sill Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Hooopa Valley Tribe of California
Karuk Tribe of California
Muckleshoot Indian Tribe of the Muckleshoot Reservation, of Washington
Northwestern Band of Shoshoni Nation of Utah "Washakie"
Otoe-Missouria Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma
Ponca Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac and Fox Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac & Fox Nation of Missouri in Kansas and Nebraska
Squaxin Island Tribe of the Squaxin Island Reservation, of Washington
Suquamish Indian Tribe of the Port Madison Reservation, of Washington
Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Reservation
Upper Skagit Indian Tribe of Washington
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes (Wichita, Keechi, Waco and Tawakonie)

Tribes requiring 1/16 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-great-grandparent) for membership

Caddo Nation
Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde Community of Oregon
Fort Independence Indian Community of Paiute Indians of the Fort Independence Reservation, of California
Fort Sill Apache Tribe
Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, of North Carolina
Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians

Tribes requiring 1/32 degree blood quantum for membership

Kaw Nation

Tribes determining membership by lineal descent, Members must be direct descendants of original enrollees.

Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town
Cherokee Nation
Chickasaw Nation
Choctaw Nation
Citizen Potawatomi Nation
Delaware Tribe of Indians
Eastern Shawnee Tribe
Mashantucket Pequot Tribe of Connecticut
Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe of Massachusetts
Miami Tribe of Oklahoma
Modoc Tribe
Muscogee Creek Nation
Osage Nation
Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma
Peoria Tribe of Indians
Quapaw Tribe of Oklahoma
Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians of Michigan
Seminole Nation
Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma
Shawnee Tribe
Thlopthlocco Tribal Town
Tonkawa Tribe
Wyandotte Nation


SOURCE: Blood Quantum Native American Indian Tribal Enrollment
Why are you claiming that she ever said she had enough Native American blood to have a membership in a tribe, when SHE NEVER CLAIMED SUCH?

Huh?
1/1024 is not American Indian in anyway
 
Elizabeth Warren has taken a DNA test.

The results show she wasn't lying.

trump and the republicans have been lying all this time.

The truth is that most American families that have been here for a long time have Native American Indian somewhere in the past in their families.

I do. Like Warren it was a long family story that many generations back someone married a Cherokee woman. I never believed it until I took a DNA test. There it was. Just like Warren, a very small part of my DNA has Native American Indian. Just like the family story, it's very small which means it's many generations back.

Just like most Americans.

So go ahead and call her names. You're only showing your hate and ignorance.

Elizabeth Warren's DNA test results point to Native American heritage

There are ZERO evidence that she has an Indian Ancestor back to the early 1800's

Her Genealogy records back to early 1800's shows ZERO evidence of an Indian Ancestor, plus she isn't recognized as a Cherokee by the Indian nations, thus NOT an Indian at all.

Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 1


Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 2


"Now we are seeing a very clear pattern develop. We are back to the great great grandparent generation, and Ms. Warren's ancestors are still only being found as white in the documents. On the other hand, Chief Baker's ancestors are found as Cherokee Indians. And notice that even though Sarah Harlin was born in 1834 and Indian, there are plenty of records to document both her existence and the fact she was Cherokee. We have 6 sources for her and all verify she is Cherokee even though many people wrongly assume records are harder to find if your ancestor was Indian/Cherokee.

Since the forced removal of the Cherokees was in 1838, we have gotten back to that time with both families. Preston H. Crawford was born approximately fourteen years before the forced removal and Sarah Harlin was born about four years before the removal.

The Crawford family was always listed as white in the records and remained in the east after the forced removal of the Cherokees. The Harlin family was always living among Cherokees and always listed as Indians. These two families are clearly found listed differently in the records.

In Elizabeth Warren's family, we have gotten to approximately 1824, fourteen years prior to the removal of the Cherokees from the east and there is no indication of Indian blood or association with the Cherokees through her Crawford line, the line she claims to be Cherokee through. That means we have gone back about 188 years and still not found a Cherokee. "
That is inconclusive, it only accounts for one great-grandfather, with very little information about his wife, and none about the other six great-grandparents. That blog also has links to Breitbart and similar sites.

You IGNORED that she was basing her post on actual CENSUS records, which carries a lot more weight than family campfire tales, which 100% of seems to come from one mouth, Elizabeth Warren.

I notice that after posting this FIVE times, Warren defenders always ignore the CENSUS evidence in the link:

Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 1

and this FOUR times posted still ignored:

Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 2

Gee I wonder why...……………………………………...
 
So, this was a real deep dive into her DNA. I imagine that the normal test showed 0% Indian DNA, so they had to do the deep dive to find a trace or possible Indian DNA 10 generations ago.


If the scientists involved have the same level of integrity as the "hide the decline" climate god worshippers, they mixed samples until they got a bit of AI DNA into the test.
 
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Elizabeth Warren has taken a DNA test.

The results show she wasn't lying.

trump and the republicans have been lying all this time.

The truth is that most American families that have been here for a long time have Native American Indian somewhere in the past in their families.

I do. Like Warren it was a long family story that many generations back someone married a Cherokee woman. I never believed it until I took a DNA test. There it was. Just like Warren, a very small part of my DNA has Native American Indian. Just like the family story, it's very small which means it's many generations back.

Just like most Americans.

So go ahead and call her names. You're only showing your hate and ignorance.

Elizabeth Warren's DNA test results point to Native American heritage

There are ZERO evidence that she has an Indian Ancestor back to the early 1800's

Her Genealogy records back to early 1800's shows ZERO evidence of an Indian Ancestor, plus she isn't recognized as a Cherokee by the Indian nations, thus NOT an Indian at all.

Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 1


Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 2


"Now we are seeing a very clear pattern develop. We are back to the great great grandparent generation, and Ms. Warren's ancestors are still only being found as white in the documents. On the other hand, Chief Baker's ancestors are found as Cherokee Indians. And notice that even though Sarah Harlin was born in 1834 and Indian, there are plenty of records to document both her existence and the fact she was Cherokee. We have 6 sources for her and all verify she is Cherokee even though many people wrongly assume records are harder to find if your ancestor was Indian/Cherokee.

Since the forced removal of the Cherokees was in 1838, we have gotten back to that time with both families. Preston H. Crawford was born approximately fourteen years before the forced removal and Sarah Harlin was born about four years before the removal.

The Crawford family was always listed as white in the records and remained in the east after the forced removal of the Cherokees. The Harlin family was always living among Cherokees and always listed as Indians. These two families are clearly found listed differently in the records.

In Elizabeth Warren's family, we have gotten to approximately 1824, fourteen years prior to the removal of the Cherokees from the east and there is no indication of Indian blood or association with the Cherokees through her Crawford line, the line she claims to be Cherokee through. That means we have gone back about 188 years and still not found a Cherokee. "
More on Pocahontas. Ain't this a Hoot!
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It Gets Better… Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren

It Gets Better... Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren
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But, to be honest, this Bat-Shit Crazy Bitch doesn't deserve the time being spent to ridicule her.

She could NOT get elected to anything more than Dog Catcher outside of LoonLands like Massachusetts----might have a chance in Shitholia (Connecticut).
Wouldn't .098% be if she was only 1/1024th NA, instead of 1/32?
They're playing math tricks on ya, Macaulay.
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Honestly, Old Lady, I don't think you can be educated....and in spite of your consistent embarrassing inanities posted too often on this board, I have left you alone for that reason.....and also out of sympathy for what is very likely much advanced age accompanied by some dementia.

But, here is a light math and genetics lesson.

If this lying goofy bitch had a full blooded Indian Great-Grandparent, she would have 1/8th Indian Blood, or .125 decimal interest (the same as 1.25 per cent). That is the MINIMUM amount of Indian Blood that will get you recognized by an Indian Tribe! Most require 1/4 Indian Blood---which would mean a full blooded Indian Grandparent--two generations up the chain of heredity.

Pocahantas flunks this test by a mile. She doesn't have a even Have a Great-Great-Great-Great-Grand Parent who was a full blooded Indian---that would make her 1/64 Indian (.015625 decimal interest)---her own specialist---who was probably a liar, as most Liberals are---said she wasn't even that close--- she was possibly up to the tenth generation or 1/1024 also called .000977 decimal interest.

Now that's her man's story and he wasn't even sure---and she went all over the country to find him, so there is rightful suspicion there....and an independent analysis would be required if anybody gave enough of a Shit--which I do not.

And it is now reported that the AVERAGE AMERICAN has more Indian Blood than Pocahantas's own bogus Sanford expert says he "thinks" she might have.

Her own privately, surreptitiously hired test man, a liberal tool from Sanford, said she might have no more than .000977 Indian Blood---the Cherokees would laugh her off the Reservation, as the American People will laugh her out of any race she runs outside of LoonLand in the NorthEast.
This was never about her being a Tribal member. She told us that family tradition said she had an ancestor back along the line who was Native American, and she has taken the test and it is true. She did. I don't remember anyone talking about specific percentages in that article which reported the results. You did that, basing it on your own guesses for what percentage she might be.
It doesn't matter. She was right; the DNA tests prove it, and Trump needs to cough up the one mil.
You can try to insult me all you want, but you're the one who is being either confused or dishonest here, not me.

So you believed in her unsupported assertions (family tales around a campfire) of an Indian ancestor while her own family history shows ZERO evidence of an Indian ancestor?
Anyone who has tried to unravel a thorny geneaological problem knows that the records can't always be 100% relied upon to tell the story. Men and women both married multiple times and children were frequently raised by a relative other than parents. Ancestors with the same last name were frequently confused. Generations were confused in family recitations of begats and copied by other family historians, gelling errors for hundreds of years. Lots of interesting stuff happens. So the fact that a record (was that record entirely based on primary sources and backed up by corroborating primary sources?) does not mention a woman of mixed Cherokee ancestry marrying (did they even marry?) does not mean she wasn't there. How much do we know about most of the women in our family lines anyway? It is mostly the men whose names and deeds are recorded.
So I guess my answer to you is, yeah, based on the DNA results and the strong family tradition of a Native American ancestor back down the line, I believe it. Only a political hack would try to disprove it, because she is a Democrat. How stupid, really, can you be?
 
i see you never read trumps quote. he said he's bring a DNA test and they could do it during the debate.

yet you wanna go bag on others for LYING and ignoring FACTS while you go do it yourself.
no, i didnt read what he said about it.... do you have a link?

I was just repeating what I heard a congress critter say while being interviewed on the news...
heh, lord knows i can do that also. i just have learned to dig for myself.

Trump challenges 'Pocahontas' Warren to DNA test to prove she's Native American

Reviving his "Pocahontas" nickname for the Massachusetts Democrat, Trump asked his audience to imagine him on a debate stage challenging Warren to submit to genetic testing to prove that she has Native American ancestors.

"I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian," he said. "I have a feeling she will say no."
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now it can also depend on how you read this, but as others have said in here, there is *no* native american to test for because they never opted into those genetics. also, the total amount shown for her is .097, which is 1/2 of what an average african american can also test for when it comes to NORTH AMERICAN (mexico, peru, and so forth) indian testing.

to me i read it as take the test during the debate and let's end it.
1/1024 is not American Indian
Because if it was most every Caucasian in this country would be Indian according to the Pocahontas standard


Most blacks and latinos would also be Native Americans per that standard.

Just sayin'.
yeah. I dunno really. Really, it's not a big deal. From Trump and his fellow travelers it is, but I think we know why.

With Warren, it seems most people in her family, and possibly a lot of folks in that neck of OK, figure it's just part of their family history. For some reason German Irish backgrounds were a big deal to my father's family. For his kids, we didn't care. And didn't stay in touch with cousins. But at least some Southerners make a big deal about descents who were confederates.

It's not a big deal if you just chat about it with friends. It's a big deal if you use it in employment and politics.
 
More on Pocahontas. Ain't this a Hoot!
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It Gets Better… Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren

It Gets Better... Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren
______________________________

But, to be honest, this Bat-Shit Crazy Bitch doesn't deserve the time being spent to ridicule her.

She could NOT get elected to anything more than Dog Catcher outside of LoonLands like Massachusetts----might have a chance in Shitholia (Connecticut).
Wouldn't .098% be if she was only 1/1024th NA, instead of 1/32?
They're playing math tricks on ya, Macaulay.
1/1024 is not American Indian... even if you use al gores fuzzy math
 
I know a young woman who is of Cherokee descent but she is not on a tribal role, and doesn't get payments from the tribe.


All she has to do with blood. is submit DNA. No big smurf. I have standing with Six Nations because I go back to the Beaver Head.




























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lol This was Warren's " I am not a crook!" speech.
And it turns out the Republican really was a crook. How hilarious is that?
Well, Warren really was a crook. She sought preferences by falsely claiming she was a native American, but Havard has said they never believed her. Clearly, the woman was neither honest nor a competent crook.
She still got the job, though, didn't she? So the answer to that question never mattered and the Republicans have been making a huge deal out of nothing for how many years now?
Typical.
Actually, she raised the issue in an attempt to gain preference as a minority, which shows a failure of character so it is a big deal even if neither Harvard nor anyone else fell for her scam.
Warren never gained shit from her claim.

And character????? A Trumpette talking about character????? hahahahahahahahaahahha

Never gained shit? The bitch had herself listed as a "minority hire" by two universities, and jabbered about it in political campaigns. That wouldn't gain anything if she was a Republican dealing with other Republicans, but it matters a great deal to the racist left.
 
I could only read a few pages of responses here; it’s deeply depressing to realize how incredibly ignorant so many of the posters here are about basic genealogy, genetics and American history. The allegations that 1/32 American Indian DNA is common are ludicrous, and anybody really with any common sense about American history and population demographics over time as this country developed would know that full well.

She has 12x the American Indian DNA of the most predominant ethnic heritage among American citizens, who are predominantly of Anglo Saxon European origin. She has American Indian heritage to the extent that she has always represented, a distant grandparent she never met. She has never used that status for any advantage in academia or her professional life.

And still you guys can’t shut up about her. The only thing wrong with Elizabeth Warren is that she’s a strong, intelligent and ambitious woman who makes sad little boys feel emasculated.

You're assuming she is 1/32nd native. She could just as easily be 1/1024th.
 
Oh look, there's only ONE tribe that Warren could even REMOTELY stand a chance at joining, assuming she was 1/32nd Native... which they don't know.

Tribes that hold their Blood Quantum at 1/2

Kialegee Tribal Town
Miccosukee Tribe of Indians of Florida
Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, Mississippi
St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin
White Mountain Apache Tribe, of Arizona
Yomba Shoshone Tribe, of Nevada

Tribes requiring 1/4 degree blood quantum (equal to one grandparent) for membership

Absentee-Shawnee Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation, of Washington
Ho-Chunk Nation of Wisconsin
Hopi Tribe of Arizona
Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma
Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation, Arizona
Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes, of Montana
Navajo Nation, Arizona, Utah and New Mexico
Oneida Tribe of Indians, of Wisconsin
Pascua Yaqui Tribe, of Arizona
Prairie Band Potawatomi Nation, of Kansas
Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation, of Wyoming
Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, North and South Dakota
United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, of Oklahoma
Utu Utu Gwaitu Paiute Tribe, of California
Yavapai-Prescott Tribe, of Arizona
Blackfeet Tribe, of Montana

Tribes requiring 1/8 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-grandparent) for membership

Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Comanche Nation, of Oklahoma
Delaware Nation, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Reservation, of Oregon
Fort Sill Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Hooopa Valley Tribe of California
Karuk Tribe of California
Muckleshoot Indian Tribe of the Muckleshoot Reservation, of Washington
Northwestern Band of Shoshoni Nation of Utah "Washakie"
Otoe-Missouria Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma
Ponca Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac and Fox Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac & Fox Nation of Missouri in Kansas and Nebraska
Squaxin Island Tribe of the Squaxin Island Reservation, of Washington
Suquamish Indian Tribe of the Port Madison Reservation, of Washington
Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Reservation
Upper Skagit Indian Tribe of Washington
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes (Wichita, Keechi, Waco and Tawakonie)

Tribes requiring 1/16 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-great-grandparent) for membership

Caddo Nation
Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde Community of Oregon
Fort Independence Indian Community of Paiute Indians of the Fort Independence Reservation, of California
Fort Sill Apache Tribe
Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, of North Carolina
Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians

Tribes requiring 1/32 degree blood quantum for membership

Kaw Nation

Tribes determining membership by lineal descent, Members must be direct descendants of original enrollees.

Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town
Cherokee Nation
Chickasaw Nation
Choctaw Nation
Citizen Potawatomi Nation
Delaware Tribe of Indians
Eastern Shawnee Tribe
Mashantucket Pequot Tribe of Connecticut
Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe of Massachusetts
Miami Tribe of Oklahoma
Modoc Tribe
Muscogee Creek Nation
Osage Nation
Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma
Peoria Tribe of Indians
Quapaw Tribe of Oklahoma
Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians of Michigan
Seminole Nation
Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma
Shawnee Tribe
Thlopthlocco Tribal Town
Tonkawa Tribe
Wyandotte Nation


SOURCE: Blood Quantum Native American Indian Tribal Enrollment
Why are you claiming that she ever said she had enough Native American blood to have a membership in a tribe, when SHE NEVER CLAIMED SUCH?

Huh?

Then why did she have to prove it? And it's fucking laughable, you and I probably have the same amount of Indian blood.
She proved it because the right wing has been screaming for her to take the test and prove it for a few years now. And because Trump promised to give a million dollars to charity if she tested and was found to have Native blood.
Ha ha. Now he's trying to squirm out of the deal. He probably hasn't got a million dollars left anymore.
Lol
That is because 1/1024 is not American Indian at all. Dip shit
Most Caucasians in America have a better racial than that… How many of them are claiming to be Indian you stupid ass motherfucker
 
This is what happens when a dishonest baby or punk loses a bet or challenge. Endless excuses and "but, but.....but.." are heard just like in this situation. Under certain situations, this behavior would warrant an ass kicking, or worse. Cheating and lying are OK with Trumpism. Immature baby behavior is OK with Trumpism.
 

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