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Where did you get that stat (50% of Americans have Native blood)? That is not what I heard.It's not ONE DROP, and it proves Warren's assertions. Not that she is a tribal member, but that she had an ancestor that was Native American. Why is it so friggin hard for people to accept that? Is it the end of the world that a Democrat told the truth one time? LOLWhere did you get that "statistic" from? I don't actually believe it. I've seen lots of those results and Native American is not as common as European and Asian.
https://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(14)00476-5#secsectitle0135
Most people whose families have been in North America any length of time contain traces of a variety of races and ethnicities. Your average American who claims European descent actually is about .18% Native American, although that obviously fluctuates according to where the family is from. Melting pot, remember?
Indeed. That's why this identity politics b'loney is such...b'loney.
How in the hell did this country loop around back to the "just one drop" attitudes of Jim Crow? I feel like I just woke up in some Bizarro World 1950.
It seems odd that she would bring it up considering that her portion of Native American is shared by roughly 50 million other Americans. There was a distinct impression that she hope to gain some prominence and some advantage by mentioning it. Truth be told it's all fairly harmless until you consider it in the light of her plagiarized cook book named Pow Wow Chow, and in the light of several dozen speeches given by her where she speaks of herself as being Native American when in fact she is not.
It doesn't make her a bad person but it makes her one that's very stupid if she thinks that assertion will go on challenged by the genuine American Indian Nation should she decide to make a run for president.
Nobody really cares one way or another except perhaps her.
Jo
his nation was supposed to strive for the ideal of caring only about what kind of person you were, not what color.
Lying fuck. She received no preferential treatment.Dimms just admit it, she lied to get preferential treatment. It’s not the end of the world.
She is not American Indian...So is Trump going to pay up the one million?
Na, not reallyI do understand that many have a romantic notion of having some First Nations lineage and but when one uses a falsehood to receive a grant or a position thereby denying those to a true First Nations person, in my mind that is theft.
Can you point out when that happened?
She claimed A
Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law - The Boston Globe
She does have Native American ancestry, and had every right to indicate that. What is your problem? I suspect you are so invested in the unfounded claim that she has no Native American ancestry till you find it hard to give up the lie that you have grown to love. This is very similar to the right's inability to accept Obama's birth certificate. You don't care about facts. You still want to hang on to your lie.
Her own test says 1/1024, Most Caucasians in this country have a better ratio then that.She is not American Indian...So is Trump going to pay up the one million?
Because Trump told you? In case you haven't figured it out yet, Trump lies pretty often.
Warren said one of her grandmothers had Native American blood.She took him up on his challenge and proved a native American heritage. All this debate is merely him and his supporters being deadbeats and cheaters.Does Trump OWE Senator Warren A MILLION dollars for her taking the DNA test?
me thinks he might owe her that money.... put your money where your mouth is, president trump
Elizabeth claimed she is 1/32 Cherokee, now her DNA says she has far less than that. She also claimed her GRANDFATHER is part Cherokee, but the Census records says he is WHITE (no mention of any Indian blood at all)
Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 1
"The Grandparents
Bethania "Hannie" Crawford, the grandmother of Ms. Warren, was the child of John Houston Crawford and Plina/Paulina Ann Bowen. She was born in Laclede County, Missouri, on October 29, 1875. She was found on the 1880 US Census as Bethena, living in Johnson County, Arkansas with her parents and siblings; race listed as white. She married Harry G. Reed in Sebastian County, Arkansas, on June 2, 1893. She was found on the 1910 US Census living in Muskogee County, Oklahoma with her husband and children; race listed as white. She was found on the 1920 US census living in Hickory Ridge, Okfuskee County, Oklahoma with her husband and children; race listed as white. She was found on the 1930 US Census living in Wetumka, Hughes County, Oklahoma, with her husband and daughter, Pauline; race listed as white. She was found on the 1940 US Census living in Wetumka, Hughes County, Oklahoma, with her husband; race listed as white. She died November 11, 1969 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma."
Elizabeth Warren has taken a DNA test.
The results show she wasn't lying.
trump and the republicans have been lying all this time.
The truth is that most American families that have been here for a long time have Native American Indian somewhere in the past in their families.
I do. Like Warren it was a long family story that many generations back someone married a Cherokee woman. I never believed it until I took a DNA test. There it was. Just like Warren, a very small part of my DNA has Native American Indian. Just like the family story, it's very small which means it's many generations back.
Just like most Americans.
So go ahead and call her names. You're only showing your hate and ignorance.
Elizabeth Warren's DNA test results point to Native American heritage
There are ZERO evidence that she has an Indian Ancestor back to the early 1800's
Her Genealogy records back to early 1800's shows ZERO evidence of an Indian Ancestor, plus she isn't recognized as a Cherokee by the Indian nations, thus NOT an Indian at all.
Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 1
Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 2
"Now we are seeing a very clear pattern develop. We are back to the great great grandparent generation, and Ms. Warren's ancestors are still only being found as white in the documents. On the other hand, Chief Baker's ancestors are found as Cherokee Indians. And notice that even though Sarah Harlin was born in 1834 and Indian, there are plenty of records to document both her existence and the fact she was Cherokee. We have 6 sources for her and all verify she is Cherokee even though many people wrongly assume records are harder to find if your ancestor was Indian/Cherokee.
Since the forced removal of the Cherokees was in 1838, we have gotten back to that time with both families. Preston H. Crawford was born approximately fourteen years before the forced removal and Sarah Harlin was born about four years before the removal.
The Crawford family was always listed as white in the records and remained in the east after the forced removal of the Cherokees. The Harlin family was always living among Cherokees and always listed as Indians. These two families are clearly found listed differently in the records.
In Elizabeth Warren's family, we have gotten to approximately 1824, fourteen years prior to the removal of the Cherokees from the east and there is no indication of Indian blood or association with the Cherokees through her Crawford line, the line she claims to be Cherokee through. That means we have gone back about 188 years and still not found a Cherokee. "Anyone who has tried to unravel a thorny geneaological problem knows that the records can't always be 100% relied upon to tell the story. Men and women both married multiple times and children were frequently raised by a relative other than parents. Ancestors with the same last name were frequently confused. Generations were confused in family recitations of begats and copied by other family historians, gelling errors for hundreds of years. Lots of interesting stuff happens. So the fact that a record (was that record entirely based on primary sources and backed up by corroborating primary sources?) does not mention a woman of mixed Cherokee ancestry marrying (did they even marry?) does not mean she wasn't there. How much do we know about most of the women in our family lines anyway? It is mostly the men whose names and deeds are recorded.This was never about her being a Tribal member. She told us that family tradition said she had an ancestor back along the line who was Native American, and she has taken the test and it is true. She did. I don't remember anyone talking about specific percentages in that article which reported the results. You did that, basing it on your own guesses for what percentage she might be._____________
Honestly, Old Lady, I don't think you can be educated....and in spite of your consistent embarrassing inanities posted too often on this board, I have left you alone for that reason.....and also out of sympathy for what is very likely much advanced age accompanied by some dementia.
But, here is a light math and genetics lesson.
If this lying goofy bitch had a full blooded Indian Great-Grandparent, she would have 1/8th Indian Blood, or .125 decimal interest (the same as 1.25 per cent). That is the MINIMUM amount of Indian Blood that will get you recognized by an Indian Tribe! Most require 1/4 Indian Blood---which would mean a full blooded Indian Grandparent--two generations up the chain of heredity.
Pocahantas flunks this test by a mile. She doesn't have a even Have a Great-Great-Great-Great-Grand Parent who was a full blooded Indian---that would make her 1/64 Indian (.015625 decimal interest)---her own specialist---who was probably a liar, as most Liberals are---said she wasn't even that close--- she was possibly up to the tenth generation or 1/1024 also called .000977 decimal interest.
Now that's her man's story and he wasn't even sure---and she went all over the country to find him, so there is rightful suspicion there....and an independent analysis would be required if anybody gave enough of a Shit--which I do not.
And it is now reported that the AVERAGE AMERICAN has more Indian Blood than Pocahantas's own bogus Sanford expert says he "thinks" she might have.
Her own privately, surreptitiously hired test man, a liberal tool from Sanford, said she might have no more than .000977 Indian Blood---the Cherokees would laugh her off the Reservation, as the American People will laugh her out of any race she runs outside of LoonLand in the NorthEast.
It doesn't matter. She was right; the DNA tests prove it, and Trump needs to cough up the one mil.
You can try to insult me all you want, but you're the one who is being either confused or dishonest here, not me.
So you believed in her unsupported assertions (family tales around a campfire) of an Indian ancestor while her own family history shows ZERO evidence of an Indian ancestor?
So I guess my answer to you is, yeah, based on the DNA results and the strong family tradition of a Native American ancestor back down the line, I believe it. Only a political hack would try to disprove it, because she is a Democrat. How stupid, really, can you be?
Nice try, but you posted ZERO evidence that her Census records are bad or that she has actual Indians in her family past back to 1818, which is when her family history in America begins.
She claims to be a Cherokee, but ALL three Cherokee nations says she isn't, since she has NO evidence that she is an Indian by law and by Census. All of her claims have been shown to be without merit they all come from her mouth with no supporting evidence, you understand yet?
There is evidence from those who have made the effort to trace her lineage,
She never claimed to be a member of any tribe.
All she claimed was to have Native American blood in her. That's it. She did a DNA test & she does.
Do you get it???
Na, not reallyI do understand that many have a romantic notion of having some First Nations lineage and but when one uses a falsehood to receive a grant or a position thereby denying those to a true First Nations person, in my mind that is theft.
Can you point out when that happened?
She claimed A
Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law - The Boston Globe
She does have Native American ancestry, and had every right to indicate that. What is your problem? I suspect you are so invested in the unfounded claim that she has no Native American ancestry till you find it hard to give up the lie that you have grown to love. This is very similar to the right's inability to accept Obama's birth certificate. You don't care about facts. You still want to hang on to your lie.
1/1024 is not American Indian in any way
They change the narrative because the original narrative has been proven. DNA proves she had a native American in her ancestry. Now they are claiming the narrative is about her being able to join a tribe or have a specific amount of native bloodline. Caveats to avoid paying off a bet or challenge.What is a fucking crock? The DNA evidence shows she's got a Native American ancestor, just like she has always claimed. I don't see the issue. I certainly don't see any fucking crock.It's not ONE DROP, and it proves Warren's assertions. Not that she is a tribal member, but that she had an ancestor that was Native American. Why is it so friggin hard for people to accept that? Is it the end of the world that a Democrat told the truth one time? LOLhttps://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(14)00476-5#secsectitle0135
Most people whose families have been in North America any length of time contain traces of a variety of races and ethnicities. Your average American who claims European descent actually is about .18% Native American, although that obviously fluctuates according to where the family is from. Melting pot, remember?
Indeed. That's why this identity politics b'loney is such...b'loney.
How in the hell did this country loop around back to the "just one drop" attitudes of Jim Crow? I feel like I just woke up in some Bizarro World 1950.
Oh what a fucking crock here.
You stop now or you really will become my first hit every time I roll into to this pathetic place.
I believe Trump calling her "Pocahontas" was insulting to Native Americans no matter if she is able to join a tribe or not.Ask a native american, i believe it does. Lol, liberals cannot do anything right. You elected a negro that was half white.Does it matter?Is it enough for her to join a tribe?I'll help you, now for Trump's DNA??
Warren releases DNA results showing she has Native American heritage
Where did you get that stat (50% of Americans have Native blood)? That is not what I heard.It's not ONE DROP, and it proves Warren's assertions. Not that she is a tribal member, but that she had an ancestor that was Native American. Why is it so friggin hard for people to accept that? Is it the end of the world that a Democrat told the truth one time? LOLhttps://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(14)00476-5#secsectitle0135
Most people whose families have been in North America any length of time contain traces of a variety of races and ethnicities. Your average American who claims European descent actually is about .18% Native American, although that obviously fluctuates according to where the family is from. Melting pot, remember?
Indeed. That's why this identity politics b'loney is such...b'loney.
How in the hell did this country loop around back to the "just one drop" attitudes of Jim Crow? I feel like I just woke up in some Bizarro World 1950.
It seems odd that she would bring it up considering that her portion of Native American is shared by roughly 50 million other Americans. There was a distinct impression that she hope to gain some prominence and some advantage by mentioning it. Truth be told it's all fairly harmless until you consider it in the light of her plagiarized cook book named Pow Wow Chow, and in the light of several dozen speeches given by her where she speaks of herself as being Native American when in fact she is not.
It doesn't make her a bad person but it makes her one that's very stupid if she thinks that assertion will go on challenged by the genuine American Indian Nation should she decide to make a run for president.
Nobody really cares one way or another except perhaps her.
Jo
The only people who care about this is all the right wingers who have been hooting and hollering and calling her a liar for years because she claimed Native American ancestry. So she proves it and now you don't believe it or think it's not enough for something or other?
The test says different... 1/1024 is not American IndianThe only dip dshit is you. Shjow me where Elizatbethj Warren cl;aimned to be full blooded Nsative American, a member of any truibe, etc.LolShe proved it because the right wing has been screaming for her to take the test and prove it for a few years now. And because Trump promised to give a million dollars to charity if she tested and was found to have Native blood.Why are you claiming that she ever said she had enough Native American blood to have a membership in a tribe, when SHE NEVER CLAIMED SUCH?Oh look, there's only ONE tribe that Warren could even REMOTELY stand a chance at joining, assuming she was 1/32nd Native... which they don't know.
Tribes that hold their Blood Quantum at 1/2
Kialegee Tribal Town
Miccosukee Tribe of Indians of Florida
Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, Mississippi
St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin
White Mountain Apache Tribe, of Arizona
Yomba Shoshone Tribe, of Nevada
Tribes requiring 1/4 degree blood quantum (equal to one grandparent) for membership
Absentee-Shawnee Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation, of Washington
Ho-Chunk Nation of Wisconsin
Hopi Tribe of Arizona
Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma
Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation, Arizona
Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes, of Montana
Navajo Nation, Arizona, Utah and New Mexico
Oneida Tribe of Indians, of Wisconsin
Pascua Yaqui Tribe, of Arizona
Prairie Band Potawatomi Nation, of Kansas
Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation, of Wyoming
Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, North and South Dakota
United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, of Oklahoma
Utu Utu Gwaitu Paiute Tribe, of California
Yavapai-Prescott Tribe, of Arizona
Blackfeet Tribe, of Montana
Tribes requiring 1/8 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-grandparent) for membership
Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Comanche Nation, of Oklahoma
Delaware Nation, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Reservation, of Oregon
Fort Sill Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Hooopa Valley Tribe of California
Karuk Tribe of California
Muckleshoot Indian Tribe of the Muckleshoot Reservation, of Washington
Northwestern Band of Shoshoni Nation of Utah "Washakie"
Otoe-Missouria Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma
Ponca Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac and Fox Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac & Fox Nation of Missouri in Kansas and Nebraska
Squaxin Island Tribe of the Squaxin Island Reservation, of Washington
Suquamish Indian Tribe of the Port Madison Reservation, of Washington
Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Reservation
Upper Skagit Indian Tribe of Washington
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes (Wichita, Keechi, Waco and Tawakonie)
Tribes requiring 1/16 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-great-grandparent) for membership
Caddo Nation
Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde Community of Oregon
Fort Independence Indian Community of Paiute Indians of the Fort Independence Reservation, of California
Fort Sill Apache Tribe
Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, of North Carolina
Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians
Tribes requiring 1/32 degree blood quantum for membership
Kaw Nation
Tribes determining membership by lineal descent, Members must be direct descendants of original enrollees.
Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town
Cherokee Nation
Chickasaw Nation
Choctaw Nation
Citizen Potawatomi Nation
Delaware Tribe of Indians
Eastern Shawnee Tribe
Mashantucket Pequot Tribe of Connecticut
Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe of Massachusetts
Miami Tribe of Oklahoma
Modoc Tribe
Muscogee Creek Nation
Osage Nation
Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma
Peoria Tribe of Indians
Quapaw Tribe of Oklahoma
Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians of Michigan
Seminole Nation
Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma
Shawnee Tribe
Thlopthlocco Tribal Town
Tonkawa Tribe
Wyandotte Nation
SOURCE: Blood Quantum Native American Indian Tribal Enrollment
Huh?
Then why did she have to prove it? And it's fucking laughable, you and I probably have the same amount of Indian blood.
Ha ha. Now he's trying to squirm out of the deal. He probably hasn't got a million dollars left anymore.
That is because 1/1024 is not American Indian at all. Dip shit
Most Caucasians in America have a better racial than that… How many of them are claiming to be Indian you stupid ass motherfucker
She said she had Native American hertiase. She said how she knows it.
She just proved it.
Bottom line is this: Trump owes 1 million dollars to a native American charity.
Warren Tells Trump to Donate $1 Million to Native American Charity After DNA Test
They change the narrative because the original narrative has been proven. DNA proves she had a native American in her ancestry. Now they are claiming the narrative is about her being able to join a tribe or have a specific amount of native bloodline. Caveats to avoid paying off a bet or challenge.What is a fucking crock? The DNA evidence shows she's got a Native American ancestor, just like she has always claimed. I don't see the issue. I certainly don't see any fucking crock.It's not ONE DROP, and it proves Warren's assertions. Not that she is a tribal member, but that she had an ancestor that was Native American. Why is it so friggin hard for people to accept that? Is it the end of the world that a Democrat told the truth one time? LOLIndeed. That's why this identity politics b'loney is such...b'loney.
How in the hell did this country loop around back to the "just one drop" attitudes of Jim Crow? I feel like I just woke up in some Bizarro World 1950.
Oh what a fucking crock here.
You stop now or you really will become my first hit every time I roll into to this pathetic place.
Na, not reallyI do understand that many have a romantic notion of having some First Nations lineage and but when one uses a falsehood to receive a grant or a position thereby denying those to a true First Nations person, in my mind that is theft.
Can you point out when that happened?
She claimed A
Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law - The Boston Globe
She does have Native American ancestry, and had every right to indicate that. What is your problem? I suspect you are so invested in the unfounded claim that she has no Native American ancestry till you find it hard to give up the lie that you have grown to love. This is very similar to the right's inability to accept Obama's birth certificate. You don't care about facts. You still want to hang on to your lie.
1/1024 is not American Indian in any way
The test says 1/1024, that will never be American Indian.It's not ONE DROP, and it proves Warren's assertions. Not that she is a tribal member, but that she had an ancestor that was Native American. Why is it so friggin hard for people to accept that? Is it the end of the world that a Democrat told the truth one time? LOLWhere did you get that "statistic" from? I don't actually believe it. I've seen lots of those results and Native American is not as common as European and Asian.
https://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(14)00476-5#secsectitle0135
Most people whose families have been in North America any length of time contain traces of a variety of races and ethnicities. Your average American who claims European descent actually is about .18% Native American, although that obviously fluctuates according to where the family is from. Melting pot, remember?
Indeed. That's why this identity politics b'loney is such...b'loney.
How in the hell did this country loop around back to the "just one drop" attitudes of Jim Crow? I feel like I just woke up in some Bizarro World 1950.
It seems odd that she would bring it up considering that her portion of Native American is shared by roughly 50 million other Americans. There is a distinct impression that she hoped to gain some prominence and some advantage by mentioning it. Truth be told it's all fairly harmless until you consider it in the light of her plagiarized cook book named Pow Wow Chow, and in the light of several dozen speeches given by her where she speaks of herself as being Native American when in fact she is not.
It doesn't make her a bad person but it makes her one that's very stupid if she thinks that assertion will go unchallenged by the genuine American Indian Nation should she decide to make a run for president.
Nobody really cares one way or another except perhaps her apparently.
So it best she is 1 / 512 and probably even less than that.
It would be like any one of us getting up in front of a crowd and bragging about the fact that we belong to homo sapiens and expecting people to be impressed with that Claim.
The more concentrated Native American population are a very reactionary group it is highly unlikely that they will allow this to drop peacefully. She just picked the totally wrong issue to get sentimental about.
Jo
She never claimed to be pary of a tribe, so why does it matter?Ask a native american, i believe it does. Lol, liberals cannot do anything right. You elected a negro that was half white.Does it matter?Is it enough for her to join a tribe?I'll help you, now for Trump's DNA??
Warren releases DNA results showing she has Native American heritage
The percent of blood is not relavent to be a Cherokee. You have to trace your ancestry back to at least one of a group of people. Warren has too many holes in her ancestry so she can not show it.
