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Where are you getting these numbers from?
From Harvard when the agency was created-LOL, The outgoing director of the CFPB throws a hand grenade at the White House, the Donald picks up the hand grenade, pulls the pin and throws it back.
Next step, dismantle the CFPB.
The President doesn't have the power to "dismantle" federal agencies created by statute.
Thus, when the President exer- cises his appointment power every five years, it will have a more powerful impact on the shape of the Bureau than if the Bureau had a multimember board
https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/vol12408_recentlegislation.pdf
Thus the executive branch has control over the appointment of its director. When the director resigned, it then became under the President s authority to appoint a new director, acting or not. The director, if absent for short periods of time, could relegate his duties to someone to act in his behalf- not due to resignation.
That is a question for the courts to answer, and I don't think you should be so confident that they'll see it that way.
There's no question that Trump has the power to appoint the director - with confirmation by the Senate, of course - but the question of who becomes acting director in the interim is not so clear.
For the departing director to have been able to appoint her she would have had to be deputy director for at least 90 days prior to that appointment. She was appointed deputy director only a few days before his resignation.
NOV 24, 2017
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) today announced that Leandra English has been officially named deputy director of the agency. English, who had been most recently serving as the agency’s chief of staff, has previously held key leadership positions at the CFPB, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Office of Personnel Management. David Silberman, who had been serving as acting deputy director, will continue in his role as associate director of the Research, Markets, and Regulations division.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
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Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the Government Accountability Office) whose appointment to office is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office—
made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity subject to the time limitations of section 3346; or
employee of such Executive agency to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity, subject to the time limitations of section 3346, if—
employee served in a position in such agency for not less than 90 days; and
position described under subparagraph (A) is equal to or greater than the minimum rate of pay payable for a position at GS–15 of the General Schedule.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
From Harvard when the agency was created-LOL, The outgoing director of the CFPB throws a hand grenade at the White House, the Donald picks up the hand grenade, pulls the pin and throws it back.
Next step, dismantle the CFPB.
The President doesn't have the power to "dismantle" federal agencies created by statute.
Thus, when the President exer- cises his appointment power every five years, it will have a more powerful impact on the shape of the Bureau than if the Bureau had a multimember board
https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/vol12408_recentlegislation.pdf
Thus the executive branch has control over the appointment of its director. When the director resigned, it then became under the President s authority to appoint a new director, acting or not. The director, if absent for short periods of time, could relegate his duties to someone to act in his behalf- not due to resignation.
That is a question for the courts to answer, and I don't think you should be so confident that they'll see it that way.
There's no question that Trump has the power to appoint the director - with confirmation by the Senate, of course - but the question of who becomes acting director in the interim is not so clear.
Where are you getting these numbers from?
$750B was an Estimate of annual FED over-spending. It has been as high at $1.4T-$1.6T recently.
Annually adding to the $20T debt. SS money is not put away in a lockbox. Next crash will be brutal. GOVT waste and Pensions should be cut ahead of time. ~10% of spending is into GOVT pension slush fund. Let them go to 401K or to SS only, same as private. /
The President doesn't have the power to "dismantle" federal agencies created by statute.
Nobody said or implied that the President had any such authority.
...but thanks for "this is how you attempt to put words into other peoples mouths" demonstration.
So who do you expect will "dismantle" it, then?
Step 1. Executive action to limit its scope of activity, staffing levels and expenditures.
Step 2. Legislative repeal.
Next question....
I don't think you'll find much support in Congress to repeal Dodd-Frank.
Here's your second lesson in civics for today....
They don't need to repeal Dodd-Frank to get rid of the CFPB, Congress can and often does introduce and pass legislation that alters existing legislation and the Republicrat Congress Critters are nearly unanimous in their opposition to the CFPB; last time I checked they held the majority in both houses along with a President that isn't fond of the CFPB either.
For the departing director to have been able to appoint her she would have had to be deputy director for at least 90 days prior to that appointment. She was appointed deputy director only a few days before his resignation.
NOV 24, 2017
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) today announced that Leandra English has been officially named deputy director of the agency. English, who had been most recently serving as the agency’s chief of staff, has previously held key leadership positions at the CFPB, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Office of Personnel Management. David Silberman, who had been serving as acting deputy director, will continue in his role as associate director of the Research, Markets, and Regulations division.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
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Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the Government Accountability Office) whose appointment to office is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office—
made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity subject to the time limitations of section 3346; or
employee of such Executive agency to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity, subject to the time limitations of section 3346, if—
employee served in a position in such agency for not less than 90 days; and
position described under subparagraph (A) is equal to or greater than the minimum rate of pay payable for a position at GS–15 of the General Schedule.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
From Harvard when the agency was created-LOL, The outgoing director of the CFPB throws a hand grenade at the White House, the Donald picks up the hand grenade, pulls the pin and throws it back.
Next step, dismantle the CFPB.
The President doesn't have the power to "dismantle" federal agencies created by statute.
Thus, when the President exer- cises his appointment power every five years, it will have a more powerful impact on the shape of the Bureau than if the Bureau had a multimember board
https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/vol12408_recentlegislation.pdf
Thus the executive branch has control over the appointment of its director. When the director resigned, it then became under the President s authority to appoint a new director, acting or not. The director, if absent for short periods of time, could relegate his duties to someone to act in his behalf- not due to resignation.
That is a question for the courts to answer, and I don't think you should be so confident that they'll see it that way.
There's no question that Trump has the power to appoint the director - with confirmation by the Senate, of course - but the question of who becomes acting director in the interim is not so clear.
You're reading that law wrong - and it's also irrelevant, since the statute creating CFPB itself includes language determining the succession of temporary directors.
LOL, Yeah I'm sure that Congress can and often does enact legislation that alters existing legislation and I'm sure that the Republicrat Congress Critters and President Twitter are overwhelmingly opposed to the CFPB.Nobody said or implied that the President had any such authority.
...but thanks for "this is how you attempt to put words into other peoples mouths" demonstration.
So who do you expect will "dismantle" it, then?
Step 1. Executive action to limit its scope of activity, staffing levels and expenditures.
Step 2. Legislative repeal.
Next question....
I don't think you'll find much support in Congress to repeal Dodd-Frank.
Here's your second lesson in civics for today....
They don't need to repeal Dodd-Frank to get rid of the CFPB, Congress can and often does introduce and pass legislation that alters existing legislation and the Republicrat Congress Critters are nearly unanimous in their opposition to the CFPB; last time I checked they held the majority in both houses along with a President that isn't fond of the CFPB either.
Are you sure about that?
How come the Senate hasn't brought the "CHOICE" act up yet, then?
I had over a 3rd grade reading level when I was 5 yrs old.Again....... I SAID OFFICE.
Siding with Trump, judge rules Mick Mulvaney to remain interim CFPB head
"At one point during Tuesday's court session, Gupta raised the possibility that English could face punitive action from Mulvaney for challenging his leadership of the agency"
How could she face punitive actions if she was kicked out of the building?
Also, she is still listed as the Deputy Director...
Bureau Structure | Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Would you like more? How about you ask the OP for a link to where the judge kicked her out of the building. Oh wait, you partisan hacks never go after your own kind, never mind.
Do you spell office differently than I do?
I thought I said OFFICE....dumbass.![]()
It is way too early to be drunk...or did you miss this part of your link...Evacuate the Premises
WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!???
You want to argue with the link... feel free. I said office.
Thanks for your permission, but if you could read you would see that my first post was about the link and not your words. But somehow that was too much for you to comprehend. But then again anyone that would actually go to and read the GWP cannot have a reading level over the 3rd grade.
She can be fired for being an idiot.He will boot her out forthwith. No reason to keep her.
Scrape the infection from the bone wherever found.
Actually, he cannot fire her. She is not a political appointee, she is a federal employee and cannot be given "the boot" just because of her political affiliation.
Obviously you don't.![]()
Get the fuck out, bitch!!! Court Rules with POTUS TRUMP – Tells Far Left Hack to Clear Contents of Her Office into Box and Evacuate the Premises
The CFPB is nothing more than a money laundering scheme to rob banks of cash and turn it over to leftist groups like Planned-Parenthood.Court Rules with POTUS TRUMP – Tells Far Left Hack to Clear Contents of Her Office into Box and Evacuate the Premises
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Recent Trump appointee ruled today in favor of President Trump and rejected a lawsuit from an official who claims that she, and not President Trump appointee Mick Mulvaney, is the rightful director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
Judge Timothy Kelly of the U.S. District Court of the District of Columbia refused to grant Leandra English a restraining order to bar Mulvaney from serving as the CFPB’s acting director.
English, a committed leftist, sued the Trump administration to lead the far left CFPB bureaucracy. She did not realize Donald Trump won the election in 2016.
Judge Kelly had a different opinion.
that's what appeals courts are for you insane bigot.
not that you understand current events or how our government and court systems work.
She CAN be fired for insubordination.He will boot her out forthwith. No reason to keep her.
Scrape the infection from the bone wherever found.
Actually, he cannot fire her. She is not a political appointee, she is a federal employee and cannot be given "the boot" just because of her political affiliation.
Care to share it? Considering that Harvard seemed to agree, long before this came up. And Obama appointed Cordray, seeing as CFPB is part of the executive branch..For the departing director to have been able to appoint her she would have had to be deputy director for at least 90 days prior to that appointment. She was appointed deputy director only a few days before his resignation.
NOV 24, 2017
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) today announced that Leandra English has been officially named deputy director of the agency. English, who had been most recently serving as the agency’s chief of staff, has previously held key leadership positions at the CFPB, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Office of Personnel Management. David Silberman, who had been serving as acting deputy director, will continue in his role as associate director of the Research, Markets, and Regulations division.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
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Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the Government Accountability Office) whose appointment to office is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office—
made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity subject to the time limitations of section 3346; or
employee of such Executive agency to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity, subject to the time limitations of section 3346, if—
employee served in a position in such agency for not less than 90 days; and
position described under subparagraph (A) is equal to or greater than the minimum rate of pay payable for a position at GS–15 of the General Schedule.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
From Harvard when the agency was created-The President doesn't have the power to "dismantle" federal agencies created by statute.
Thus, when the President exer- cises his appointment power every five years, it will have a more powerful impact on the shape of the Bureau than if the Bureau had a multimember board
https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/vol12408_recentlegislation.pdf
Thus the executive branch has control over the appointment of its director. When the director resigned, it then became under the President s authority to appoint a new director, acting or not. The director, if absent for short periods of time, could relegate his duties to someone to act in his behalf- not due to resignation.
That is a question for the courts to answer, and I don't think you should be so confident that they'll see it that way.
There's no question that Trump has the power to appoint the director - with confirmation by the Senate, of course - but the question of who becomes acting director in the interim is not so clear.
You're reading that law wrong - and it's also irrelevant, since the statute creating CFPB itself includes language determining the succession of temporary directors.
LOL, Yeah I'm sure that Congress can and often does enact legislation that alters existing legislation and I'm sure that the Republicrat Congress Critters and President Twitter are overwhelmingly opposed to the CFPB.So who do you expect will "dismantle" it, then?
Step 1. Executive action to limit its scope of activity, staffing levels and expenditures.
Step 2. Legislative repeal.
Next question....
I don't think you'll find much support in Congress to repeal Dodd-Frank.
Here's your second lesson in civics for today....
They don't need to repeal Dodd-Frank to get rid of the CFPB, Congress can and often does introduce and pass legislation that alters existing legislation and the Republicrat Congress Critters are nearly unanimous in their opposition to the CFPB; last time I checked they held the majority in both houses along with a President that isn't fond of the CFPB either.
Are you sure about that?
How come the Senate hasn't brought the "CHOICE" act up yet, then?
Civics lesson #3...
The Senate has a filibuster mechanism, the HoR doesn't and a full blown repeal of Dodd-Frank wouldn't get past a filibuster, however components, like eliminating the CFPB can since it can be attached to other legislation and traded for items that are higher on the Democrats priority list, like for example DACA protections.
You got any other softballs in that tiny bag of yours or are you done?
Which is unconstitutional.For the departing director to have been able to appoint her she would have had to be deputy director for at least 90 days prior to that appointment. She was appointed deputy director only a few days before his resignation.
NOV 24, 2017
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) today announced that Leandra English has been officially named deputy director of the agency. English, who had been most recently serving as the agency’s chief of staff, has previously held key leadership positions at the CFPB, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Office of Personnel Management. David Silberman, who had been serving as acting deputy director, will continue in his role as associate director of the Research, Markets, and Regulations division.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
prev | next
Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the Government Accountability Office) whose appointment to office is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office—
made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity subject to the time limitations of section 3346; or
employee of such Executive agency to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity, subject to the time limitations of section 3346, if—
employee served in a position in such agency for not less than 90 days; and
position described under subparagraph (A) is equal to or greater than the minimum rate of pay payable for a position at GS–15 of the General Schedule.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
From Harvard when the agency was created-LOL, The outgoing director of the CFPB throws a hand grenade at the White House, the Donald picks up the hand grenade, pulls the pin and throws it back.
Next step, dismantle the CFPB.
The President doesn't have the power to "dismantle" federal agencies created by statute.
Thus, when the President exer- cises his appointment power every five years, it will have a more powerful impact on the shape of the Bureau than if the Bureau had a multimember board
https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/vol12408_recentlegislation.pdf
Thus the executive branch has control over the appointment of its director. When the director resigned, it then became under the President s authority to appoint a new director, acting or not. The director, if absent for short periods of time, could relegate his duties to someone to act in his behalf- not due to resignation.
That is a question for the courts to answer, and I don't think you should be so confident that they'll see it that way.
There's no question that Trump has the power to appoint the director - with confirmation by the Senate, of course - but the question of who becomes acting director in the interim is not so clear.
You're reading that law wrong - and it's also irrelevant, since the statute creating CFPB itself includes language determining the succession of temporary directors.
Probably something to do with the fact that you're attempting to manufacture an argument with seemingly little to no understanding as to how the legislative process works to counter an argument I didn't even make; I advocated for the elimination of the CFBP, I didn't say that it WOULD happen, I indicated that it's POSSIBLE under normal order.LOL, Yeah I'm sure that Congress can and often does enact legislation that alters existing legislation and I'm sure that the Republicrat Congress Critters and President Twitter are overwhelmingly opposed to the CFPB.Step 1. Executive action to limit its scope of activity, staffing levels and expenditures.
Step 2. Legislative repeal.
Next question....
I don't think you'll find much support in Congress to repeal Dodd-Frank.
Here's your second lesson in civics for today....
They don't need to repeal Dodd-Frank to get rid of the CFPB, Congress can and often does introduce and pass legislation that alters existing legislation and the Republicrat Congress Critters are nearly unanimous in their opposition to the CFPB; last time I checked they held the majority in both houses along with a President that isn't fond of the CFPB either.
Are you sure about that?
How come the Senate hasn't brought the "CHOICE" act up yet, then?
Civics lesson #3...
The Senate has a filibuster mechanism, the HoR doesn't and a full blown repeal of Dodd-Frank wouldn't get past a filibuster, however components, like eliminating the CFPB can since it can be attached to other legislation and traded for items that are higher on the Democrats priority list, like for example DACA protections.
You got any other softballs in that tiny bag of yours or are you done?
You're not understanding what I'm saying.
Good, apparently my civics lessons in this thread weren't in vain.I'm not saying that Congress can't pass legislation to "alter" existing legislation
- I'm saying that they don't have the votes to do what you claim they should.
Which is unconstitutional.For the departing director to have been able to appoint her she would have had to be deputy director for at least 90 days prior to that appointment. She was appointed deputy director only a few days before his resignation.
NOV 24, 2017
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) today announced that Leandra English has been officially named deputy director of the agency. English, who had been most recently serving as the agency’s chief of staff, has previously held key leadership positions at the CFPB, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Office of Personnel Management. David Silberman, who had been serving as acting deputy director, will continue in his role as associate director of the Research, Markets, and Regulations division.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
prev | next
Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the Government Accountability Office) whose appointment to office is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office—
made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity subject to the time limitations of section 3346; or
employee of such Executive agency to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity, subject to the time limitations of section 3346, if—
employee served in a position in such agency for not less than 90 days; and
position described under subparagraph (A) is equal to or greater than the minimum rate of pay payable for a position at GS–15 of the General Schedule.
5 U.S. Code § 3345 - Acting officer
From Harvard when the agency was created-The President doesn't have the power to "dismantle" federal agencies created by statute.
Thus, when the President exer- cises his appointment power every five years, it will have a more powerful impact on the shape of the Bureau than if the Bureau had a multimember board
https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/vol12408_recentlegislation.pdf
Thus the executive branch has control over the appointment of its director. When the director resigned, it then became under the President s authority to appoint a new director, acting or not. The director, if absent for short periods of time, could relegate his duties to someone to act in his behalf- not due to resignation.
That is a question for the courts to answer, and I don't think you should be so confident that they'll see it that way.
There's no question that Trump has the power to appoint the director - with confirmation by the Senate, of course - but the question of who becomes acting director in the interim is not so clear.
You're reading that law wrong - and it's also irrelevant, since the statute creating CFPB itself includes language determining the succession of temporary directors.
Guess this is another Democrat boondoggle that's gonna eat shit in the Supreme Court.
Probably something to do with the fact that you're attempting to manufacture an argument with seemingly little to no understanding as to how the legislative process works to counter an argument I didn't even make; I advocated for the elimination of the CFBP, I didn't say that it WOULD happen, I indicated that it's POSSIBLE under normal order.LOL, Yeah I'm sure that Congress can and often does enact legislation that alters existing legislation and I'm sure that the Republicrat Congress Critters and President Twitter are overwhelmingly opposed to the CFPB.
I don't think you'll find much support in Congress to repeal Dodd-Frank.
Here's your second lesson in civics for today....
They don't need to repeal Dodd-Frank to get rid of the CFPB, Congress can and often does introduce and pass legislation that alters existing legislation and the Republicrat Congress Critters are nearly unanimous in their opposition to the CFPB; last time I checked they held the majority in both houses along with a President that isn't fond of the CFPB either.
Are you sure about that?
How come the Senate hasn't brought the "CHOICE" act up yet, then?
Civics lesson #3...
The Senate has a filibuster mechanism, the HoR doesn't and a full blown repeal of Dodd-Frank wouldn't get past a filibuster, however components, like eliminating the CFPB can since it can be attached to other legislation and traded for items that are higher on the Democrats priority list, like for example DACA protections.
You got any other softballs in that tiny bag of yours or are you done?
You're not understanding what I'm saying.
Good, apparently my civics lessons in this thread weren't in vain.I'm not saying that Congress can't pass legislation to "alter" existing legislation
- I'm saying that they don't have the votes to do what you claim they should.
It hasn't even been attempted yet, so you have no idea whether or not they have the votes to eliminate the CFPB.
She CAN be fired for insubordination.He will boot her out forthwith. No reason to keep her.
Scrape the infection from the bone wherever found.
Actually, he cannot fire her. She is not a political appointee, she is a federal employee and cannot be given "the boot" just because of her political affiliation.
She can be fired for being an idiot.He will boot her out forthwith. No reason to keep her.
Scrape the infection from the bone wherever found.
Actually, he cannot fire her. She is not a political appointee, she is a federal employee and cannot be given "the boot" just because of her political affiliation.