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Ali was a devout Muslim to the point of changing his name.Ali could have easily claimed he had heel spursWell, that is stupid on him, and them.
But he risked all for his religious objections
His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
he didn't shit his pants & got a 4-F like a draft dodging mediocre guitar player/pedophile.
Do you realize that "Yeah, but" is an admission of my point?
Re Ali.
His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
Your limited knowledge of history is betraying youEgypt was run by the military they were not an Islamic StateFAILFAIL
You claim Muslims are waging war to spread their religion
Yet you can’t point out any examples where they did it
No, I ridiculed the idea that they are a Religion of Peace and commented on how they HAD spread their religion by sword and fire.
I've seen this with you before, an inability to understand the concept of time.
Pull yourself together and don't waste my time, with stupid fucking games.
Show us something recent to back your claim
Sure, here you go.
Arab–Israeli conflict - Wikipedia
Excellent example of the "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy.
You lose.
I have repeatedly asked you to show all the violence and war in Islamic historyAli was a devout Muslim to the point of changing his name.Ali could have easily claimed he had heel spurs
But he risked all for his religious objections
His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
he didn't shit his pants & got a 4-F like a draft dodging mediocre guitar player/pedophile.
Do you realize that "Yeah, but" is an admission of my point?
Re Ali.
His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
And his excuse was bullshit as we see from all the violence and war in Islamic history.
Evangelicals had a choice between a candidate that was actively hostile to them, and one that was willing to represent their interests in policy.
They choose the one that was not their enemy.
ONly a fucking asshole would pretend to be confused about that, and consider the only possible answer to be racism.
Do you realize that "Yeah, but" is an admission of my point?His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.Ali could have easily claimed he had heel spursWell, that is stupid on him, and them.
But he risked all for his religious objections
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
he didn't shit his pants & got a 4-F like a draft dodging mediocre guitar player/pedophile.
Re Ali.
His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
He refused to go to war. That's called "conscientious objection".
Know what would happen to the war business if everybody did that?
Need a calculator?
Fascists. Such cat toys.
Your limited knowledge of history is betraying youEgypt was run by the military they were not an Islamic StateFAILNo, I ridiculed the idea that they are a Religion of Peace and commented on how they HAD spread their religion by sword and fire.
I've seen this with you before, an inability to understand the concept of time.
Pull yourself together and don't waste my time, with stupid fucking games.
Show us something recent to back your claim
Sure, here you go.
Arab–Israeli conflict - Wikipedia
Excellent example of the "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy.
You lose.
I have repeatedly asked you to show all the violence and war in Islamic historyAli was a devout Muslim to the point of changing his name.His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
he didn't shit his pants & got a 4-F like a draft dodging mediocre guitar player/pedophile.
Do you realize that "Yeah, but" is an admission of my point?
Re Ali.
His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
And his excuse was bullshit as we see from all the violence and war in Islamic history.
Evangelicals had a choice between a candidate that was actively hostile to them, and one that was willing to represent their interests in policy.
They choose the one that was not their enemy.
ONly a fucking asshole would pretend to be confused about that, and consider the only possible answer to be racism.
You can’t point to a single Islamic run country going to war
Countries that have Muslim populations and went to war were run by the military
------------------------------------------ and then , to sum your post all it , it all amounts to being YOUR Opinion RWinger .As a devout atheist ....I can tell pretend Christians from those who truly believe------------------------------------------------- ' none showed Christian Leaning that YOU recognize as Christian Leanings eh ' in your Opinion , ----------- well tough RWinger .They had to claim to be Christians to be elected. None showed Christian leanings before being elected. While Obama was a churchgoer, he went because his wife made him and it was good politics in a black districtAnyone running for President has to at least pretend to be Christian--------------------------------------- yeah , maybe , course i was just responding to Lysis posted claim in post 440 that all Presidents were Christian and i didn't think of that athiest possibility RWinger . All Presidents were perceived to be Christian or were at least Westerners except for one 'prezident' so thanks for the mention of possible 'athiests' in the Presidential woodpile RWinger .
We are not prepared to elect a non-Christian or atheist at this time
Recent Presidents who have been atheists include Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon
I have to disagree with you here. trump might be questionable, but the rest of the men you mentioned were Christians of various practices, like it or not.
It is a combination of looking at their churchgoing before they became President, how often they attend as President, their references to faith when they speak, their moral values. There is a difference in legitimate faith and faith for a photo op
Mike Pence is a legitimate man of faith.......Trump is not
Atheist Presidents.......Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon
he didn't shit his pants & got a 4-F like a draft dodging mediocre guitar player/pedophile.
Do you realize that "Yeah, but" is an admission of my point?
Re Ali.
His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
he went to jail for them; gave up his freedom & his career.
my point stands.
He should have served more time. ANd it is good that society hurt his career.
but he didn't serve more time, did he? &, besides- the pants shitting draft dodging mediocre guitar playing pedophile served no time because of his cowardice to stand up to his convictions.
lol... perhaps he'll go to the whitehouse & get a medal from president tinkles someday... ha! who am i kidding?
i wonder what the motor city 4-F madman was doing in 1981 besides boinking underage girls?
certainly not anything like this...
And what do you think that proves?
Do you realize that "Yeah, but" is an admission of my point?
Re Ali.
His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
he went to jail for them; gave up his freedom & his career.
my point stands.
He should have served more time. ANd it is good that society hurt his career.
but he didn't serve more time, did he? &, besides- the pants shitting draft dodging mediocre guitar playing pedophile served no time because of his cowardice to stand up to his convictions.
lol... perhaps he'll go to the whitehouse & get a medal from president tinkles someday... ha! who am i kidding?
i wonder what the motor city 4-F madman was doing in 1981 besides boinking underage girls?
certainly not anything like this...
And what do you think that proves?
what kind of person he was & how your 'beliefs' about him ae quite a dichotomy. plus you excused the pants shitting coward from being able to be combat ready a while back- which ties in to being the idiot that you are, cartoon boy.
he went to jail for them; gave up his freedom & his career.
my point stands.
He should have served more time. ANd it is good that society hurt his career.
but he didn't serve more time, did he? &, besides- the pants shitting draft dodging mediocre guitar playing pedophile served no time because of his cowardice to stand up to his convictions.
lol... perhaps he'll go to the whitehouse & get a medal from president tinkles someday... ha! who am i kidding?
i wonder what the motor city 4-F madman was doing in 1981 besides boinking underage girls?
certainly not anything like this...
And what do you think that proves?
what kind of person he was & how your 'beliefs' about him ae quite a dichotomy. plus you excused the pants shitting coward from being able to be combat ready a while back- which ties in to being the idiot that you are, cartoon boy.
It is to his credit that he was able to see the suicidal black man as his Brother and saved him.
It is to his DIScredit, that he did not see his fellow white Americans as his brothers and did not go to fight next to them.
No dichotomy there.
Do you realize that "Yeah, but" is an admission of my point?His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.Ali could have easily claimed he had heel spurs
But he risked all for his religious objections
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
he didn't shit his pants & got a 4-F like a draft dodging mediocre guitar player/pedophile.
Re Ali.
His religious objections were bullshit. HIs racist objections were bullshit.
He openly refused to serve his nation, when called.
He deserved to be fucked.
He refused to go to war. That's called "conscientious objection".
Know what would happen to the war business if everybody did that?
Need a calculator?
Fascists. Such cat toys.
You do know that that won't happen right?
What you do get, is that one side might not have the will to fight for their nation, and that side loses.
Think what would have happened in WWII, if the American people didn't show up to fight.
he went to jail for them; gave up his freedom & his career.
my point stands.
He should have served more time. ANd it is good that society hurt his career.
but he didn't serve more time, did he? &, besides- the pants shitting draft dodging mediocre guitar playing pedophile served no time because of his cowardice to stand up to his convictions.
lol... perhaps he'll go to the whitehouse & get a medal from president tinkles someday... ha! who am i kidding?
i wonder what the motor city 4-F madman was doing in 1981 besides boinking underage girls?
certainly not anything like this...
And what do you think that proves?
what kind of person he was & how your 'beliefs' about him ae quite a dichotomy. plus you excused the pants shitting coward from being able to be combat ready a while back- which ties in to being the idiot that you are, cartoon boy.
It is to his credit that he was able to see the suicidal black man as his Brother and saved him.
It is to his DIScredit, that he did not see his fellow white Americans as his brothers and did not go to fight next to them.
No dichotomy there.
As a devout atheist ....I can tell pretend Christians from those who truly believe------------------------------------------------- ' none showed Christian Leaning that YOU recognize as Christian Leanings eh ' in your Opinion , ----------- well tough RWinger .They had to claim to be Christians to be elected. None showed Christian leanings before being elected. While Obama was a churchgoer, he went because his wife made him and it was good politics in a black districtAnyone running for President has to at least pretend to be Christian--------------------------------------- yeah , maybe , course i was just responding to Lysis posted claim in post 440 that all Presidents were Christian and i didn't think of that athiest possibility RWinger . All Presidents were perceived to be Christian or were at least Westerners except for one 'prezident' so thanks for the mention of possible 'athiests' in the Presidential woodpile RWinger .
We are not prepared to elect a non-Christian or atheist at this time
Recent Presidents who have been atheists include Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon
I have to disagree with you here. trump might be questionable, but the rest of the men you mentioned were Christians of various practices, like it or not.
It is a combination of looking at their churchgoing before they became President, how often they attend as President, their references to faith when they speak, their moral values. There is a difference in legitimate faith and faith for a photo op
Mike Pence is a legitimate man of faith.......Trump is not
Atheist Presidents.......Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon
Your limited knowledge of history is betraying youEgypt was run by the military they were not an Islamic StateFAIL
Show us something recent to back your claim
Sure, here you go.
Arab–Israeli conflict - Wikipedia
Excellent example of the "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy.
You lose.
NO, it is not.
Your response to me meeting your request for recent war waging by muslim nations against non muslim nations,
was to deny that Egypt is a muslim nation, because they were not an "islamic state".
That is the No True Scotsman Logical Fallacy and a big old fail on your part.
You lose.
Jefferson tooAs a devout atheist ....I can tell pretend Christians from those who truly believe------------------------------------------------- ' none showed Christian Leaning that YOU recognize as Christian Leanings eh ' in your Opinion , ----------- well tough RWinger .They had to claim to be Christians to be elected. None showed Christian leanings before being elected. While Obama was a churchgoer, he went because his wife made him and it was good politics in a black districtAnyone running for President has to at least pretend to be Christian
We are not prepared to elect a non-Christian or atheist at this time
Recent Presidents who have been atheists include Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon
I have to disagree with you here. trump might be questionable, but the rest of the men you mentioned were Christians of various practices, like it or not.
It is a combination of looking at their churchgoing before they became President, how often they attend as President, their references to faith when they speak, their moral values. There is a difference in legitimate faith and faith for a photo op
Mike Pence is a legitimate man of faith.......Trump is not
Atheist Presidents.......Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon
I bleev you can add Lincoln to that list. Unless you're limiting to recent history.
he went to jail for them; gave up his freedom & his career.
my point stands.
He should have served more time. ANd it is good that society hurt his career.
but he didn't serve more time, did he? &, besides- the pants shitting draft dodging mediocre guitar playing pedophile served no time because of his cowardice to stand up to his convictions.
lol... perhaps he'll go to the whitehouse & get a medal from president tinkles someday... ha! who am i kidding?
i wonder what the motor city 4-F madman was doing in 1981 besides boinking underage girls?
certainly not anything like this...
And what do you think that proves?
what kind of person he was & how your 'beliefs' about him ae quite a dichotomy. plus you excused the pants shitting coward from being able to be combat ready a while back- which ties in to being the idiot that you are, cartoon boy.
It is to his credit that he was able to see the suicidal black man as his Brother and saved him.
It is to his DIScredit, that he did not see his fellow white Americans as his brothers and did not go to fight next to them.
No dichotomy there.
Then it is your opinion that all presidents were men of faith------------------------------------------ and then , to sum your post all it , it all amounts to being YOUR Opinion RWinger .As a devout atheist ....I can tell pretend Christians from those who truly believe------------------------------------------------- ' none showed Christian Leaning that YOU recognize as Christian Leanings eh ' in your Opinion , ----------- well tough RWinger .They had to claim to be Christians to be elected. None showed Christian leanings before being elected. While Obama was a churchgoer, he went because his wife made him and it was good politics in a black districtAnyone running for President has to at least pretend to be Christian
We are not prepared to elect a non-Christian or atheist at this time
Recent Presidents who have been atheists include Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon
I have to disagree with you here. trump might be questionable, but the rest of the men you mentioned were Christians of various practices, like it or not.
It is a combination of looking at their churchgoing before they became President, how often they attend as President, their references to faith when they speak, their moral values. There is a difference in legitimate faith and faith for a photo op
Mike Pence is a legitimate man of faith.......Trump is not
Atheist Presidents.......Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon
---------------------------------- in my opinion all appeared to be men of Christian Faith except for 'uno' RWinger .Then it is your opinion that all presidents were men of faith------------------------------------------ and then , to sum your post all it , it all amounts to being YOUR Opinion RWinger .As a devout atheist ....I can tell pretend Christians from those who truly believe------------------------------------------------- ' none showed Christian Leaning that YOU recognize as Christian Leanings eh ' in your Opinion , ----------- well tough RWinger .They had to claim to be Christians to be elected. None showed Christian leanings before being elected. While Obama was a churchgoer, he went because his wife made him and it was good politics in a black districtI have to disagree with you here. trump might be questionable, but the rest of the men you mentioned were Christians of various practices, like it or not.
It is a combination of looking at their churchgoing before they became President, how often they attend as President, their references to faith when they speak, their moral values. There is a difference in legitimate faith and faith for a photo op
Mike Pence is a legitimate man of faith.......Trump is not
Atheist Presidents.......Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon
You are entitled to your opinion---------------------------------- in my opinion all appeared to be men of Christian Faith except for 'uno' RWinger .Then it is your opinion that all presidents were men of faith------------------------------------------ and then , to sum your post all it , it all amounts to being YOUR Opinion RWinger .As a devout atheist ....I can tell pretend Christians from those who truly believe------------------------------------------------- ' none showed Christian Leaning that YOU recognize as Christian Leanings eh ' in your Opinion , ----------- well tough RWinger .They had to claim to be Christians to be elected. None showed Christian leanings before being elected. While Obama was a churchgoer, he went because his wife made him and it was good politics in a black district
It is a combination of looking at their churchgoing before they became President, how often they attend as President, their references to faith when they speak, their moral values. There is a difference in legitimate faith and faith for a photo op
Mike Pence is a legitimate man of faith.......Trump is not
Atheist Presidents.......Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon
