Farmers 'panic-stricken' by shortage of migrant workers

[Anathema]

oh-----I did not know-------I have harbored a negative feeling for wrong and HURT---for all of my life

I'm fairly certain you (like most Libs) couldnt even define Wrong properly.

 

[westwall]

Farmers 'panic-stricken' by shortage of migrant workers United Press International

'We're too late -- it's done for us,' Jerry Adrian, 63, a cherry grower in Benton City, Wash., said Wednesday. Forty tons of his crop will rot on the trees for a loss of $40,000, he said.

Ed Kane, a cherry and apple grower in Wenatchee, Wash., said, 'I'm really damn well scared.'

Farm officials in the Northwest said a shortage of more than 16,000 workers will threaten strawberry and cherry crops in the next two weeks, and may damage the fall apple harvest.

California Farmers Backed Trump, but Now Fear Losing Field Workers

As for his promises about cracking down on illegal immigrants, many assumed Mr. Trump’s pledges were mostly just talk. But two weeks into his administration, Mr. Trump has signed executive orders that have upended the country’s immigration laws.

With 6.5 million people living in the valley, the fields in this state bring in $35 billion a year and provide more of the nation’s food than any other state.

https://www.usnews.com/news/busines...ker-shortage-farmers-push-back-on-immigration

As 18 Guatemalans in hoodies and rubber boots toiled in such conditions recently in Oregon's Willamette Valley, their boss expressed admiration for their willingness to do the back-breaking work he said native-born Americans won't do.

"Homeless people are camped in the fir forest over there," the farmer said, pointing to a stand of trees. "And they're not looking for work."

"I don't trust that temps off the street, or jailhouse labor, or whatever alternative they come up with would work," she said.
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Republicans are dreaming if they think guys like this:



Will replace guys like that.

The problem with Republicans is they believe "If we do this, that will happen". Only it NEVER happens the way they plan. Never. Why? Because they don't believe in study and data and understanding.

Look at Iraq and the "freedom agenda".
Look at the deficit creating Bush Tax cuts.
Look at their nonsensical approach to coal.

Terrified that they will actually have to pay a fair wage you mean? Shucks. And yes, I am more than willing to pay more for my fruits and veggies.

 

[irosie91]

Good idea. FORCED labor. Perhaps we can bring back slavery.

Maybe. I'd love to see ALL prisoners and welfare recipients forced to work for their accommodations.

Even the sick, the disabled and the mentally ill.

Wow,

Why didn't I think of that?

Trump can bring back "work camps" for them.

Charles Dickens BEAT YOU TO THAT LINE----you could be charged with plagiarism

 

[Divine Wind]

It'll be easier for them to sell drugs or boost your hubcaps than to travel from a Chicago or New York ghetto to Florida or California to pick oranges or lettuce.

Well then we ship them AFTER we catch them boosting hubcaps or selling drugs.

Make it a choice 5 years prison vs. 1 year working as a field hand.

One state shipping their drug offenders to another state?

Besides, there's still the logistical cost of transportation, food and shelter not to mention guards. The cost would easily match the current average price of a prisoner: about $30K/year.

I'm sure all states have hand picked crops that can benefit.

1) Since those "hand picked crops" are rarely downtown, there's still the logistical issues to contend with.

2) There's a reason why the cities/states with the largest number of welfare recipients aren't often the ones closest to the bread basket.

It's still worth trying compared to the status quo.

Agreed the status quo isn't working. Why not try locking up anyone who hires, harbors or otherwise encourages illegal immigration? It's a lot smaller number than 11 million. Additionally, couple that with immigration reform such as work visas along with better enforcement on those who overstay.

Example, anyone who overstays has to wait five years to be eligible for another work visa.

 

[Anathema]

...And yes, I am more than willing to pay more for my fruits and veggies.

I don't buy those things, so it's pretty much immaterial to me.

 

[irosie91]

oh-----I did not know-------I have harbored a negative feeling for wrong and HURT---for all of my life

I'm fairly certain you (like most Libs) couldnt even define Wrong properly.

properly? the CONCEPT OF 'WRONG' ? in german wrong heit? no gut heit?-----
or nicht gut heit ? I am having some trouble CONCEPTUALIZING-----

 

[Divine Wind]

Good idea. FORCED labor. Perhaps we can bring back slavery.

Maybe. I'd love to see ALL prisoners and welfare recipients forced to work for their accommodations.

Even the sick, the disabled and the mentally ill.

Wow,

Why didn't I think of that?

Trump can bring back "work camps" for them.

Charles Dickens BEAT YOU TO THAT LINE----you could be charged with plagiarism

Dickens is free to sue me. I won't hold my breath waiting for him.

 

[Divine Wind]

--- tomato picking machine at work . --- ---

Which explains the high price of tomatoes. Next up, lettuce!

------------------------------------ bs DivineWind . Wife came home with vine grown tomatoes yesterday , 79 cents a pound DWind .

Awesome. Send me 10 pounds and I'll pay you $7.90

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That's awful!
After we boot the illegal aliens, maybe we can start a temporary farm worker program?
Work, earn, return home.

Gee..why does that sound familiar?

 

[Anathema]

properly? the CONCEPT OF 'WRONG' ? in german wrong heit? no gut heit?----- or nicht gut heit ? I am having some trouble CONCEPTUALIZING-----

If you're having trouble conceptualizing Wrong, I suggest you look at Europe, the UN, and Liberal/Leftists in America.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That's awful!
After we boot the illegal aliens, maybe we can start a temporary farm worker program?
Work, earn, return home.

or we can send a few busses to the inner cities and offer work to the unemployed there.

Or, you could actually read what I posted:

As 18 Guatemalans in hoodies and rubber boots toiled in such conditions recently in Oregon's Willamette Valley, their boss expressed admiration for their willingness to do the back-breaking work he said native-born Americans won't do.

"Homeless people are camped in the fir forest over there," the farmer said, pointing to a stand of trees. "And they're not looking for work."

"I don't trust that temps off the street, or jailhouse labor, or whatever alternative they come up with would work," she said.

They are saying those Americans aren't trustworthy. That they don't work hard.

Instead of implementing a policy and then trying to figure out what to do next, why not figure out the issues first and let facts determine the policy? Novel idea?

Well maybe if we removed the safety net from the ones who don't want to work it would motivate them a bit.

It just prove the whole "subsidizing doing nothing" argument non-progressives have been making for decades.

You really think you are going to make these people work:

Your delusions are f*cking hilarious.

Whats delusional is picking random pics of people off the internet and pretending to know their financial status.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That's awful!
After we boot the illegal aliens, maybe we can start a temporary farm worker program?
Work, earn, return home.

Well duh, there already is one, they call them migrant workers...

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic....

 

[Wyatt earp]

Farmers 'panic-stricken' by shortage of migrant workers United Press International

'We're too late -- it's done for us,' Jerry Adrian, 63, a cherry grower in Benton City, Wash., said Wednesday. Forty tons of his crop will rot on the trees for a loss of $40,000, he said.

Ed Kane, a cherry and apple grower in Wenatchee, Wash., said, 'I'm really damn well scared.'

Farm officials in the Northwest said a shortage of more than 16,000 workers will threaten strawberry and cherry crops in the next two weeks, and may damage the fall apple harvest.

California Farmers Backed Trump, but Now Fear Losing Field Workers

As for his promises about cracking down on illegal immigrants, many assumed Mr. Trump’s pledges were mostly just talk. But two weeks into his administration, Mr. Trump has signed executive orders that have upended the country’s immigration laws.

With 6.5 million people living in the valley, the fields in this state bring in $35 billion a year and provide more of the nation’s food than any other state.

https://www.usnews.com/news/busines...ker-shortage-farmers-push-back-on-immigration

As 18 Guatemalans in hoodies and rubber boots toiled in such conditions recently in Oregon's Willamette Valley, their boss expressed admiration for their willingness to do the back-breaking work he said native-born Americans won't do.

"Homeless people are camped in the fir forest over there," the farmer said, pointing to a stand of trees. "And they're not looking for work."

"I don't trust that temps off the street, or jailhouse labor, or whatever alternative they come up with would work," she said.
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Republicans are dreaming if they think guys like this:



Will replace guys like that.

The problem with Republicans is they believe "If we do this, that will happen". Only it NEVER happens the way they plan. Never. Why? Because they don't believe in study and data and understanding.

Look at Iraq and the "freedom agenda".
Look at the deficit creating Bush Tax cuts.
Look at their nonsensical approach to coal.

Not really feeling sorry for the major farmers here. They supposedly knew what ran their businesses and they supported trump......too bad.

Feel sorry when food prices skyrocket.

The right are not vegetarians....to bad for the left they will have to pay a living wage now for their rabbit food.




.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That's awful!
After we boot the illegal aliens, maybe we can start a temporary farm worker program?
Work, earn, return home.

or we can send a few busses to the inner cities and offer work to the unemployed there.

Yep. Want your welfare check? Pick cherries. Earn your keep.....

It'll be easier for them to sell drugs or boost your hubcaps than to travel from a Chicago or New York ghetto to Florida or California to pick oranges or lettuce.

There are plenty of mexicans on the west coast.
And if as you say it's too far...? How do migrant workers from mehico manage to do it?

 

[Wyatt earp]

These fuck head AGW cult want to bitch about pig farts causing global warming , I hope their lettuce goes up to $20 bucks a head .


.

 

[irosie91]

properly? the CONCEPT OF 'WRONG' ? in german wrong heit? no gut heit?----- or nicht gut heit ? I am having some trouble CONCEPTUALIZING-----

If you're having trouble conceptualizing Wrong, I suggest you look at Europe, the UN, and Liberal/Leftists in America.

is that your "LONG" list?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Farmers 'panic-stricken' by shortage of migrant workers United Press International

'We're too late -- it's done for us,' Jerry Adrian, 63, a cherry grower in Benton City, Wash., said Wednesday. Forty tons of his crop will rot on the trees for a loss of $40,000, he said.

Ed Kane, a cherry and apple grower in Wenatchee, Wash., said, 'I'm really damn well scared.'

Farm officials in the Northwest said a shortage of more than 16,000 workers will threaten strawberry and cherry crops in the next two weeks, and may damage the fall apple harvest.

California Farmers Backed Trump, but Now Fear Losing Field Workers

As for his promises about cracking down on illegal immigrants, many assumed Mr. Trump’s pledges were mostly just talk. But two weeks into his administration, Mr. Trump has signed executive orders that have upended the country’s immigration laws.

With 6.5 million people living in the valley, the fields in this state bring in $35 billion a year and provide more of the nation’s food than any other state.

https://www.usnews.com/news/busines...ker-shortage-farmers-push-back-on-immigration

As 18 Guatemalans in hoodies and rubber boots toiled in such conditions recently in Oregon's Willamette Valley, their boss expressed admiration for their willingness to do the back-breaking work he said native-born Americans won't do.

"Homeless people are camped in the fir forest over there," the farmer said, pointing to a stand of trees. "And they're not looking for work."

"I don't trust that temps off the street, or jailhouse labor, or whatever alternative they come up with would work," she said.
----------
Republicans are dreaming if they think guys like this:



Will replace guys like that.

The problem with Republicans is they believe "If we do this, that will happen". Only it NEVER happens the way they plan. Never. Why? Because they don't believe in study and data and understanding.

Look at Iraq and the "freedom agenda".
Look at the deficit creating Bush Tax cuts.
Look at their nonsensical approach to coal.

Not really feeling sorry for the major farmers here. They supposedly knew what ran their businesses and they supported trump......too bad.

Feel sorry when food prices skyrocket.

Are you admitting that living wages would cause prices to skyrocket and you'd rather import cheap labor than pay higher prices?

Rderp,like all progressives,never think things through to their logical conclusion.

 

[Anathema]

is that your "LONG" list?

No. That's the very tip of the iceberg. You're not worth the time to present the whole list.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Not really feeling sorry for the major farmers here. They supposedly knew what ran their businesses and they supported trump......too bad.

Feel sorry when food prices skyrocket.

Are you admitting that living wages would cause prices to skyrocket and you'd rather import cheap labor than pay higher prices?

Many Americans, regardless of political affiliation, vote with the economy in mind. Sure, it "feels good" to say we don't support child, slave or prisoner labor but most of us still shop for the lowest priced tennis shoes, clothing and other goods when going to the store or shopping online. Very few question where or how those goods were made.

That's the way it used to be. For years now, though, we've been hearing how low-to-no-skilled Wal-Mart and McDonald's employees deserve a living wage to support their families. Those jobs are EASY compared to picking crops. Now, many of us are wondering why hard labor is not worth a living wage but Wal-Mart greeting should support a family of 3. What's the difference? Living wage for easy work cause Americans are delicate, but not for hard work? WTF?

--------------------------------- back in the mid 60s my Dad was building a house . He had a good job but was always short of cash because he was building the house for the family of 5 kids and my MOM . After work he would sometimes go to a local apple orchard to pick apples for 10 cents a bushel so that he'd have some dimes , change in his pocket or to buy gas to go to work the next day . I went with him once or twice , orchard was filled with Americans Tresha .

And there lies the problem.
Growing up we all mowed lawns for money in the summer.
Kids now days look down their noses at jobs they consider mexican work. Which of never would have happened if we hadn't given amnesty to every fuking illegal since Reagan.

 

[Divine Wind]

That's awful!
After we boot the illegal aliens, maybe we can start a temporary farm worker program?
Work, earn, return home.

or we can send a few busses to the inner cities and offer work to the unemployed there.

Yep. Want your welfare check? Pick cherries. Earn your keep.....

It'll be easier for them to sell drugs or boost your hubcaps than to travel from a Chicago or New York ghetto to Florida or California to pick oranges or lettuce.

There are plenty of mexicans on the west coast.
And if as you say it's too far...? How do migrant workers from mehico manage to do it?

The difference being they are here on either their own dime or that of the corporate farm, not the American taxpayers. I'm getting really sick and tired that every time the fucking Liberals or Conservatives have a plan, it involves spending more tax dollars to make it work.