Fascism

[Wry Catcher]

Had Wry simply cited Dr. Britt's work by itself, we'd be discussing the finer aspects of fascism instead...

True, blame google not me. The fact is Britt's work was posted as he wrote it! Continuing the original protest is nothing more than posting a red herring over and over.

 

[owebo]

You cannot change the definition of fascist, It describes liberal leftist dimocrats EXACTLY. The current occupant, and the bitchqueen also are exact matches for the REAL definition of fascist. BOOHOOO BOOGER EATING HOO. You have been schooled but I know you are too shallow egotistical and immature to realize it because that describes liberals too.

Trying to turn fascism into a leftist ideology is the rightwingnut's Holy Grail.

It's really quite,simple....which is why you LWNJs try to complicate it in order to hide from the facts....

Like I said, it's your Holy Grail. You can't man up and own that extremist rightwing ideologies are just as icky as extremist leftwing ideologies. In fact...they resemble each other far more than their moderate counterparts.

We know where you stand....sadly...

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A more accurate representation of political ideologies and Fascism:The Political Compass
Why is Hitler slightly right? The Nazis were socialists, so they weren't fascists either.

Let's start with the second part first. Some respondents confuse Nazism, a political party platform, with fascism, which is a particular structure of government. Fascism legally sanctions the persecution of a particular group within the country — political, ethnic, religious — whatever. So within Nazism there are elements of fascism, as well as militarism, capitalism, socialism etc. To tar all socialists with the national socialist brush is as absurd as citing Bill Gates and Augusto Pinochet in the same breath as examples of free market capitalism.

Economically, Hitler was well to the right of Stalin. Post-war investigations led to a number of revelations about the cosy relationship between German corporations and the Reich. No such scandals subsequently surfaced in Russia, because Stalin had totally squashed the private sector. By contrast, once in power, the Nazis achieved rearmament through deficit spending. One of our respondents has correctly pointed out that they actively discouraged demand increases because they wanted infrastructure investment. Under the Reich, corporations were largely left to govern themselves, with the incentive that if they kept prices under control, they would be rewarded with government contracts. Hardly a socialist economic agenda!

But Nazi corporate ties extended well beyond Germany. It is an extraordinarily little known fact that in 1933 a cabal of Wall Street financiers and industrialists plotted an armed coup against President Roosevelt and the US Constitutional form of government. The coup planners — all of them deeply hostile to socialism — were enthusiastic supporters of German national socialism and Italian fascism. Details of the little publicised Congressional report on the failed coup may be read in 1000 Americans:The Real Rulers of the USA by George Seldes.

Fascism, according to the American Heritage Dictionary (1983) is A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism. Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile's entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana read: Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. No less an authority on fascism than Mussolini was so pleased with that definition that he later claimed credit for it.

Nevertheless, within certain US circles,the misconception remains that fascism is essentially left wing, and that the Nazis were socialists simply because of the "socialism" in their name. We wonder if respondents who insist on uncritically accepting the Nazis' cynical self-definition would be quite as eager to believe that the German Democratic Republic was democratic.



The Political Compass

A good breakdown of differences between Left and Right Wing:
Left Wing vs Right Wing - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

First rule of thumb when dealing with fascism: resist the propaganda......

 

[Divine Wind]

Trying to turn fascism into a leftist ideology is the rightwingnut's Holy Grail.

It's really quite,simple....which is why you LWNJs try to complicate it in order to hide from the facts....

Like I said, it's your Holy Grail. You can't man up and own that extremist rightwing ideologies are just as icky as extremist leftwing ideologies. In fact...they resemble each other far more than their moderate counterparts.

We know where you stand....sadly...

View attachment 104552

A more accurate representation of political ideologies and Fascism:The Political Compass
Why is Hitler slightly right? The Nazis were socialists, so they weren't fascists either.

Let's start with the second part first. Some respondents confuse Nazism, a political party platform, with fascism, which is a particular structure of government. Fascism legally sanctions the persecution of a particular group within the country — political, ethnic, religious — whatever. So within Nazism there are elements of fascism, as well as militarism, capitalism, socialism etc. To tar all socialists with the national socialist brush is as absurd as citing Bill Gates and Augusto Pinochet in the same breath as examples of free market capitalism.

Economically, Hitler was well to the right of Stalin. Post-war investigations led to a number of revelations about the cosy relationship between German corporations and the Reich. No such scandals subsequently surfaced in Russia, because Stalin had totally squashed the private sector. By contrast, once in power, the Nazis achieved rearmament through deficit spending. One of our respondents has correctly pointed out that they actively discouraged demand increases because they wanted infrastructure investment. Under the Reich, corporations were largely left to govern themselves, with the incentive that if they kept prices under control, they would be rewarded with government contracts. Hardly a socialist economic agenda!

But Nazi corporate ties extended well beyond Germany. It is an extraordinarily little known fact that in 1933 a cabal of Wall Street financiers and industrialists plotted an armed coup against President Roosevelt and the US Constitutional form of government. The coup planners — all of them deeply hostile to socialism — were enthusiastic supporters of German national socialism and Italian fascism. Details of the little publicised Congressional report on the failed coup may be read in 1000 Americans:The Real Rulers of the USA by George Seldes.

Fascism, according to the American Heritage Dictionary (1983) is A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism. Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile's entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana read: Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. No less an authority on fascism than Mussolini was so pleased with that definition that he later claimed credit for it.

Nevertheless, within certain US circles,the misconception remains that fascism is essentially left wing, and that the Nazis were socialists simply because of the "socialism" in their name. We wonder if respondents who insist on uncritically accepting the Nazis' cynical self-definition would be quite as eager to believe that the German Democratic Republic was democratic.



The Political Compass

A good breakdown of differences between Left and Right Wing:
Left Wing vs Right Wing - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

First rule of thumb when dealing with fascism: resist the propaganda......

First rule of partisanship: Leave your brain at the door.

Second rule of partisanship: Education is evil.

 

[owebo]

It's really quite,simple....which is why you LWNJs try to complicate it in order to hide from the facts....

Like I said, it's your Holy Grail. You can't man up and own that extremist rightwing ideologies are just as icky as extremist leftwing ideologies. In fact...they resemble each other far more than their moderate counterparts.

We know where you stand....sadly...

View attachment 104552

A more accurate representation of political ideologies and Fascism:The Political Compass
Why is Hitler slightly right? The Nazis were socialists, so they weren't fascists either.

Let's start with the second part first. Some respondents confuse Nazism, a political party platform, with fascism, which is a particular structure of government. Fascism legally sanctions the persecution of a particular group within the country — political, ethnic, religious — whatever. So within Nazism there are elements of fascism, as well as militarism, capitalism, socialism etc. To tar all socialists with the national socialist brush is as absurd as citing Bill Gates and Augusto Pinochet in the same breath as examples of free market capitalism.

Economically, Hitler was well to the right of Stalin. Post-war investigations led to a number of revelations about the cosy relationship between German corporations and the Reich. No such scandals subsequently surfaced in Russia, because Stalin had totally squashed the private sector. By contrast, once in power, the Nazis achieved rearmament through deficit spending. One of our respondents has correctly pointed out that they actively discouraged demand increases because they wanted infrastructure investment. Under the Reich, corporations were largely left to govern themselves, with the incentive that if they kept prices under control, they would be rewarded with government contracts. Hardly a socialist economic agenda!

But Nazi corporate ties extended well beyond Germany. It is an extraordinarily little known fact that in 1933 a cabal of Wall Street financiers and industrialists plotted an armed coup against President Roosevelt and the US Constitutional form of government. The coup planners — all of them deeply hostile to socialism — were enthusiastic supporters of German national socialism and Italian fascism. Details of the little publicised Congressional report on the failed coup may be read in 1000 Americans:The Real Rulers of the USA by George Seldes.

Fascism, according to the American Heritage Dictionary (1983) is A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism. Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile's entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana read: Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. No less an authority on fascism than Mussolini was so pleased with that definition that he later claimed credit for it.

Nevertheless, within certain US circles,the misconception remains that fascism is essentially left wing, and that the Nazis were socialists simply because of the "socialism" in their name. We wonder if respondents who insist on uncritically accepting the Nazis' cynical self-definition would be quite as eager to believe that the German Democratic Republic was democratic.



The Political Compass

A good breakdown of differences between Left and Right Wing:
Left Wing vs Right Wing - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

First rule of thumb when dealing with fascism: resist the propaganda......

First rule of partisanship: Leave your brain at the door.

Second rule of partisanship: Education is evil.

See....

 

[bripat9643]

Please review the following two links on fascism and what we have observed since the election of Donald Trump to the office of POTUS.


Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Donald Trump and the 14 signs of Fascism • /r/politics

Consider the promises made by Mr. Trump during the time before he received the nomination of the Republican Party, his rhetoric before his election after being nominated, and his rhetoric since being elected to POTUS?

The author of the first article is an unqualified quack. He has no credentials that would make him an authority on fascism. Furthermore, he provides absolutely no justification for any of his so-called "characteristics."

You only proved that you're a great big sucker. I see this shit posted in this forum about 4-6 times a year.

Thanks for sharing your usual disputatious comment, too bad you cannot post a proper rebuttal. If the 14 points do not define fascism (small f, is significant) it does define authoritarianism - which is in direct conflict with your anti government, anti democratic, anti republican misanthropy. Methinks you enjoy chaos, and the brain that does so is clearly a bubble off center.

All the 14 points define is idiotic leftwing delusions about Republicans.

methinks you're an imbecile.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Once AGAIN ---- what the URL says when it's quoting a widely-circulated study is wholly irrelevant. It's not their original material. I don't know Jeff Rense from Mike Pence, nor do I need to. They're quoting an outside source. Put the same text in a book or in a different URL ------- AND IT'S STILL THE SAME TEXT.

I could care less what you think is relevant.

If I cited a verbatim copy of the Constitution from a site like Breitbart, would you condemn the source too? Of course you would! Don't sit there and mince words with me.

Fine. I'm going to start doing that. I'll see how far I get before liberals start attacking the source.

Absolute fucking bullshit. Now you're compounding a Poison the Well fallacy with a Speculation, and an unfounded one at that. Why the fuck would I condemn a source that was copying something verbatim?? Only an idiot would do that.

Only an idiot would think that an opinion piece is made credible by the fact several people have reprinted it.

On one of the points, the individual who lacks any credentials mentioned the opposition to terrorism which was OBVIOUSLY tailored to appeal to leftist sensibilities and has absolutely no basis in fact.

 

[bripat9643]

It's really quite,simple....which is why you LWNJs try to complicate it in order to hide from the facts....

Like I said, it's your Holy Grail. You can't man up and own that extremist rightwing ideologies are just as icky as extremist leftwing ideologies. In fact...they resemble each other far more than their moderate counterparts.

We know where you stand....sadly...

View attachment 104552

A more accurate representation of political ideologies and Fascism:The Political Compass
Why is Hitler slightly right? The Nazis were socialists, so they weren't fascists either.

Let's start with the second part first. Some respondents confuse Nazism, a political party platform, with fascism, which is a particular structure of government. Fascism legally sanctions the persecution of a particular group within the country — political, ethnic, religious — whatever. So within Nazism there are elements of fascism, as well as militarism, capitalism, socialism etc. To tar all socialists with the national socialist brush is as absurd as citing Bill Gates and Augusto Pinochet in the same breath as examples of free market capitalism.

Economically, Hitler was well to the right of Stalin. Post-war investigations led to a number of revelations about the cosy relationship between German corporations and the Reich. No such scandals subsequently surfaced in Russia, because Stalin had totally squashed the private sector. By contrast, once in power, the Nazis achieved rearmament through deficit spending. One of our respondents has correctly pointed out that they actively discouraged demand increases because they wanted infrastructure investment. Under the Reich, corporations were largely left to govern themselves, with the incentive that if they kept prices under control, they would be rewarded with government contracts. Hardly a socialist economic agenda!

But Nazi corporate ties extended well beyond Germany. It is an extraordinarily little known fact that in 1933 a cabal of Wall Street financiers and industrialists plotted an armed coup against President Roosevelt and the US Constitutional form of government. The coup planners — all of them deeply hostile to socialism — were enthusiastic supporters of German national socialism and Italian fascism. Details of the little publicised Congressional report on the failed coup may be read in 1000 Americans:The Real Rulers of the USA by George Seldes.

Fascism, according to the American Heritage Dictionary (1983) is A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism. Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile's entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana read: Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. No less an authority on fascism than Mussolini was so pleased with that definition that he later claimed credit for it.

Nevertheless, within certain US circles,the misconception remains that fascism is essentially left wing, and that the Nazis were socialists simply because of the "socialism" in their name. We wonder if respondents who insist on uncritically accepting the Nazis' cynical self-definition would be quite as eager to believe that the German Democratic Republic was democratic.



The Political Compass

A good breakdown of differences between Left and Right Wing:
Left Wing vs Right Wing - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

First rule of thumb when dealing with fascism: resist the propaganda......

First rule of partisanship: Leave your brain at the door.

Second rule of partisanship: Education is evil.

Yeah, because claiming Republicans are fascist isn't "partisan."

How does someone as brainless as you make his lungs work?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Trying to turn fascism into a leftist ideology is the rightwingnut's Holy Grail.

Wrong. The right is not the one throwing the term around. That's what lefties do, it's THEIR holy grail to smear the right with it. The right, rightly points out that it's the lefties that want the big government. You can't have socialism or fascism without big government.

All true...


Communism, socialism, fascism are all statist forms of gov't
They all make the individual subservient to the state
They are all creatures of the left

Bulloney. The Premises may be valid, they do not lead to a valid conclusion.

Please review the following two links on fascism and what we have observed since the election of Donald Trump to the office of POTUS.


Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Donald Trump and the 14 signs of Fascism • /r/politics

Consider the promises made by Mr. Trump during the time before he received the nomination of the Republican Party, his rhetoric before his election after being nominated, and his rhetoric since being elected to POTUS?

The author of the first article is an unqualified quack. He has no credentials that would make him an authority on fascism. Furthermore, he provides absolutely no justification for any of his so-called "characteristics."

You only proved that you're a great big sucker. I see this shit posted in this forum about 4-6 times a year.

Thanks for sharing your usual disputatious comment, too bad you cannot post a proper rebuttal. If the 14 points do not define fascism (small f, is significant) it does define authoritarianism - which is in direct conflict with your anti government, anti democratic, anti republican misanthropy. Methinks you enjoy chaos, and the brain that does so is clearly a bubble off center.

Fascists love you anti-intelligence types....

Really? And you are an authority on what "Fascists love"? Given the body of your work on this message board, one must infer you're not anti intellectual or intellectual, you are a very simple person who is easily led by your emotions and lack both curiosity and pragmatic / common sense.

The definition of an idiot-gram is a phrase or single sentence which lacks substance and is neither thoughtful nor thought provoking. You've mastered this form, as have most of your brothers and sisters who make up the population of the echo chamber.

 

[bripat9643]

Definitions of fascism - Wikipedia

Umberto Eco
In his 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism", Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[11] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:

• "The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
• "The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
• "The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
• "Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
• "Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
• "Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
• "Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
• Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
• "Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to NOT build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.
• "Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.
• "Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."
• "Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."
• "Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."
• "Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.

Sound familiar....?

Opening in theatres near you January 20th, 2017.

Every one of those "characteristics" fits progressive, communist, socialist and religious theocracies as well. That's the problem with the list, it is so non specific, and general, as to be useless other than showing that pretty much all collectivist government systems suck in some manner or other.

Another dishonest post, using the half-truth, a lie by omission. These characteristics do not define the liberal or progressive; and each of the other noted ideologies can but are not always examples of an Authoritarian Regime, which is what fascism (small f) is too. Do try to think and consider with whatever amount of sagacious ability you might have on each of the 14 points, and compare them with the words of P-e Trump.

"Authoritarian" does not equate to "fascist." Authoritarian regimes have been around since civilization began. Fascism is supposedly an economic system. Nothing in the 14 points is related to economics. It's pure bullshit.

 

[Iceweasel]

Wry can bend spoons with his mind. Watch him in action here:

Really? And you are an authority on what "Fascists love"? Given the body of your work on this message board, one must infer you're not anti intellectual or intellectual, you are a very simple person who is easily led by your emotions and lack both curiosity and pragmatic / common sense.

The definition of an idiot-gram is a phrase or single sentence which lacks substance and is neither thoughtful nor thought provoking. You've mastered this form, as have most of your brothers and sisters who make up the population of the echo chamber.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Has anybody noticed that the same numb nuts who rely on an unqualified opinion piece lifted from an antisemitic conspiracy site in an attempt to paint trump as a fascist are the very same posters who routinely defend Islamism?

These people are too stupid to deal in concepts. All they know is what team they are on and who they are expected to either support or attack.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Once AGAIN ---- what the URL says when it's quoting a widely-circulated study is wholly irrelevant. It's not their original material. I don't know Jeff Rense from Mike Pence, nor do I need to. They're quoting an outside source. Put the same text in a book or in a different URL ------- AND IT'S STILL THE SAME TEXT.

I could care less what you think is relevant.

If I cited a verbatim copy of the Constitution from a site like Breitbart, would you condemn the source too? Of course you would! Don't sit there and mince words with me.

Fine. I'm going to start doing that. I'll see how far I get before liberals start attacking the source.

Absolute fucking bullshit. Now you're compounding a Poison the Well fallacy with a Speculation, and an unfounded one at that. Why the fuck would I condemn a source that was copying something verbatim?? Only an idiot would do that.

Only an idiot would think that an opinion piece is made credible by the fact several people have reprinted it.

On one of the points, the individual who lacks any credentials mentioned the opposition to terrorism which was OBVIOUSLY tailored to appeal to leftist sensibilities and has absolutely no basis in fact.

Dogshit once again offers opinions based on nothing but his/her biases and emotions, emotions of false pathos and other pretense his/her kind use as cover for their callous conservatism and ignorance. Citing a supposed fact without evidence or links is one more example of someone with a poor education and a person who matriculated at the echo chamber.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Has anybody noticed that the same numb nuts who rely on an unqualified opinion piece lifted from an antisemitic conspiracy site in an attempt to paint trump as a fascist are the very same posters who routinely defend Islamism?

These people are too stupid to deal in concepts. All they know is what team they are on and who they are expected to either support or attack.

Sounds as if you have taken this ^^^ from your last annual evaluation at the Burger Barn.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Too bad FDR said these things in the past:


There seems to be no question that [Mussolini] is really interested in what we are doing and I am much interested and deeply impressed by what he has accomplished and by his evidenced honest purpose of restoring Italy.

Comment in early 1933 about Benito Mussolini to US Ambassador to Italy Breckinridge Long, as quoted in Three New Deals : Reflections on Roosevelt's America, Mussolini's Italy, and Hitler's Germany, 1933-1939 (2006) by Wolfgang Schivelbusch, p. 31​

I don't mind telling you in confidence that I am keeping in fairly close touch with that admirable Italian gentleman.

Comment on Benito Mussolini in 1933, as quoted in Three New Deals : Reflections on Roosevelt's America, Mussolini's Italy, and Hitler's Germany, 1933-1939 (2006) by Wolfgang Schivelbusch, p. 31​

Of course, once WWII came and the world saw the horrors
that a socialist gov't like Nazi Germany can impose on a people

The Left moved quick to deny their connection
and distort history

 

[bripat9643]

Has anybody noticed that the same numb nuts who rely on an unqualified opinion piece lifted from an antisemitic conspiracy site in an attempt to paint trump as a fascist are the very same posters who routinely defend Islamism?

These people are too stupid to deal in concepts. All they know is what team they are on and who they are expected to either support or attack.

They regurgitate the talking points fed to them by their ideological masters. They have no capacity to use logic to defend their claims. They simply repeat insults and smears of right wingers.

 

[Divine Wind]

Yeah, because claiming Republicans are fascist isn't "partisan."

How does someone as brainless as you make his lungs work?

Wrong. Partisan Lefties call anyone to the right of themselves "fascists" even as they advocate a totalitarian socialist agenda run by the Liberal Elite.

Try dropping the partisanship and using your brain for more than a place to park your ballcap. Republicans aren't fascists, but neither is fascism the same as socialism. It's more right than left winged as shown above and most definitely authoritarian.

 

[bripat9643]

Once AGAIN ---- what the URL says when it's quoting a widely-circulated study is wholly irrelevant. It's not their original material. I don't know Jeff Rense from Mike Pence, nor do I need to. They're quoting an outside source. Put the same text in a book or in a different URL ------- AND IT'S STILL THE SAME TEXT.

I could care less what you think is relevant.

If I cited a verbatim copy of the Constitution from a site like Breitbart, would you condemn the source too? Of course you would! Don't sit there and mince words with me.

Fine. I'm going to start doing that. I'll see how far I get before liberals start attacking the source.

Absolute fucking bullshit. Now you're compounding a Poison the Well fallacy with a Speculation, and an unfounded one at that. Why the fuck would I condemn a source that was copying something verbatim?? Only an idiot would do that.

Only an idiot would think that an opinion piece is made credible by the fact several people have reprinted it.

On one of the points, the individual who lacks any credentials mentioned the opposition to terrorism which was OBVIOUSLY tailored to appeal to leftist sensibilities and has absolutely no basis in fact.

Dogshit once again offers opinions based on nothing but his/her biases and emotions, emotions of false pathos and other pretense his/her kind use as cover for their callous conservatism and ignorance. Citing a supposed fact without evidence or links is one more example of someone with a poor education and a person who matriculated at the echo chamber.

Your "14 points" are nothing but biases and emotions.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Has anybody noticed that the same numb nuts who rely on an unqualified opinion piece lifted from an antisemitic conspiracy site in an attempt to paint trump as a fascist are the very same posters who routinely defend Islamism?

These people are too stupid to deal in concepts. All they know is what team they are on and who they are expected to either support or attack.

Sounds as if you have taken this ^^^ from your last annual evaluation at the Burger Barn.

I went to Stanford and own my own business.

How about you, child?

The fact I have the education and intelligence you lack does not make me a right winger. You are simply incapable of understanding politics with any more nuance than a game of cowboys and Indians.

 

[Divine Wind]

"Authoritarian" does not equate to "fascist." Authoritarian regimes have been around since civilization began. Fascism is supposedly an economic system. Nothing in the 14 points is related to economics. It's pure bullshit.

Correct about authoritarian. Fascism is a subset of authoritarian ideologies but not the same nor equal to.

Disagreed that fascism is an economic system. Democracy isn't an economic system either, capitalism is an economic system.

 

[bripat9643]

Yeah, because claiming Republicans are fascist isn't "partisan."

How does someone as brainless as you make his lungs work?

Wrong. Partisan Lefties call anyone to the right of themselves "fascists" even as they advocate a totalitarian socialist agenda run by the Liberal Elite.

Try dropping the partisanship and using your brain for more than a place to park your ballcap. Republicans aren't fascists, but neither is fascism the same as socialism. It's more right than left winged as shown above and most definitely authoritarian.

Wrong. Fascism is a form of socialism. It maintains the pretense of capitalism by allowing factory owners to retain a title that confers no rights on the possessor, but the government makes all the business decisions for the enterprise. The government determines what he produces, how much he produces, the prices he charges, the wages he pays, the profit he makes and every other decision that a business owner would normally make. It's socialism, pure and simple.